The evidence you provide is weak.
This is your personal opinion. Some people have a different opinion: ~ At the moment I do not understand the arguments of taikuri13 and chimk, who have written about the situation with the Smart manIt is absolutely obvious from the evidence that the Smart man recruited people to provide bumping / shilling services for projects. And there seems to be no doubt that bumping services harm forum users, the reasons have been repeatedly mentioned in this topic. ~ That is not "defending a scammer". It is a reaction to you acting like an asshole.
They diligently avoid discussing the facts ... all because I am bad? I don't care what they call me (troll, liar, etc.), but I would like to hear their statements on specific issues. |
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Anyway, whatever problem the local board has let it solve by them at their level and no need to reach out the forum admins as much as possible. There are local boards moderators and for sure those users should be PM first and should have respected the chain. It is not a good idea to directly go over admins or global forum moderators without asking first the local boards moderators. This is how it should be done and posting here would less likely to be appreciated by theymos.
The information that served as the beginning of my investigation was published on february 04, 2019. Everyone in local ignored this information. There was no action or comment. When additional evidence was published (on June 08, 2019), some DT members (taikuri13, chimk, Alex_Sr) began to aggressively protect the scamer. And as you can see from the first post, I found a lot of scamers and additional evidence, but none of the listed DT members are interested in it, they only continue to protect the scamer. I think this is an important issue for the entire forum and should be resolved at a high level. |
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Все топики с услугами, проводящими найм постеров, в том числе от пользователя Smart man, необходимо рассматривать индивидуально.
1.) На данный момент все пользователи предлагающие бампинг сервис были покрашены. Никакого индивидуального подхода - конвейер. Кроме этого уже установлено что: 2.) Smart man тесно связан со скам проектом Adab Solutions. 3.) Smart man бампил свою ветку с альтов и от имени фейковых заказчиков оставлял отзывы, пострадавшие от такого мошенничества есть. 4.) Замешан в абузе системы мерит. Я не вижу никакого интереса от вас к этим фактам, а ведь я нашел множество абузеров, не только Smart man. DIKULТо чем занимаетесь вы это пародия на борьбу со спамом или просто преследование несогласных с вашим мнением людей.
Ужасно ужасно! Я мешаю уважаемым членам ру локала мошенничать! Или вы как-то иначе оцениваете факты которые я подробно расписал в этой теме и в Мете? Если да, то прошу изложить ваши аргументы. ~ А где здесь доказательства? Случайное совпадение одной даты с интервалом в 3 часа?~ и тут же спрашиваете "а где доказательства?" Это такой особый юмор или что? Вместо того чтобы заниматься такой ерундой пройдитесь по темам в Альтах и напишите пару тысяч репортов на спам. Это будет реальная борьба со спамом а не борьба с ветряными мельницами.
Вы предлагаете бороться с последствиями (исполнителями и их постами), а я предлагаю наказать организаторов и тех кто их покрывает. Очевидно что "наказанные" brand new юзеры возродятся в любом количестве в любой момент. А вот скамеры с рангом Hero (Smart man) такой трюк провернуть не смогут. |
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Many thanks for the work you do. I want to ask you - why do you ignore an important topic that concerns your local? There is a lot of information there that will help you find scammers who are not yet punished and are trying to deceive people. |
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Хотел бы немного прояснить обстановку. В теме присутствуют профессиональный борцы со скамом такие как: DIKUL, Veleor, witcher_sense, TheFuzzStone и некоторые другие (сорри за пропуск). Но они упорно хранят молчание по поводу вот этого вопроса и его масштабного продолжения. Если это возможно хотелось бы услышать их мнение (до того как наступит развязка). |
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chimkIf you think that calling your opponent a liar, a troll, etc. you led the arguments, then you are mistaken. I prefer to discuss the facts, and you diligently try to avoid it. Check the facts. Smart man hiring in and offering bump service: REQUIRED POSTING IN ENGLISH THREADS
1. Contact me if in your accounts at least half of the posts in English.
2. Posts up from 100 signs.
3. Express an opinion about the project, ask questions. Don't write nonsense.
4. English is not Google translate.
5. You have from 5 accounts. I will completely do (with the command) the required:
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Hi guys looking for posters for a project. Write your telegram in pm.
So what exactly is needed? Posts on btt, thread bumping on btt? Writing articles? PM me. These are facts. And how does Chimik rate them? chimk (Hero member, DT-1, merit source) ~
I saw that he was hiring in posting service, in good English, with a requirement for the quality of the content (both volume and content). There is no evidence that this is a promotion of scam projects, that the service has been implemented by shitposting-not proven, the existence of the service itself from this post is also in question.
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This is an obvious defense of the scam that harms the forum with spam and meaningless messages written for one purpose - to bump the project thread. Chimik defend Smart man and his spam on forum. It is facts.Chimik, your behavior is not trustworthy obvious, but additionally answer these questions: 1.) Smart man is involved in a huge circuit of merit abuse. Yes/No?
2.) Smart man has a lot of alts and with the help of them he deceives customers by making false reviews in his thread. Yes/No?
3.) Smart man is involved in the scam project Adab Solutions. Yes/No? Question number 4 is missing as above, I have already shown a chimiks lie on this issue. It's funny that chimik believes the words of a scamer, not facts. And it is very interesting that in the first report, Smart man tells how he collaborated with the scammers Adab, but chimik does not see any problems! Although Smart man writes that they are scamers, he did not warn anyone about this.
I read a lot of forum, sometimes it leads to a comparison of suspicious facts, it takes a lot of time.
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Other cases involving Smart man, I have not studied.
Are you stupid or blind? I showed in the first post how easily and quickly find facts that shows that Smart man is a scamer. You are protecting a fraudster but are not able to verify his profile by yourself? I doubt, most likely you know all but continue to protect him. Still waiting for your answers.
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If anyone is interested, then I found a person who worked closely with this scam project. And he is still not taged and not banned, as he has strong support in the Ru local. ~ Everything is already clear, but I went further. I checked the topic where Smart Man offers his services (writing WP and promotion of ICO) and allegedly communicates with customers. Within 10 minutes, I discovered that most of the discussion participants were alts of Smart Man. To save space and time I will show the most interesting ones: Blanchrc40 3/25/2018 9:32:14 PM password changed 5/9/2019 8:34:21 AM woke up Hiring in bumping serviceMrBoston 3/25/2018 9:48:00 PM password changed 5/14/2019 9:52:40 PM woke up Fixxer767 3/25/2018 10:20:35 PM password changed 5/12/2019 1:30:10 AM woke up Jeronimo78 3/18/2018 4:13:10 PM password changed 5/9/2019 8:29:33 AM woke up You will say that these are minor details to the facts that already exist? No, I'll explain later why. We continue: There are banned user Afina_22She sent merit to Smart man and was connected to him through other abusers. She is the topic starter (in russian local) of scam project Adab SolutionsWho started the topic in the English section? - whitetoo 3/25/2018 9:53:53 PM password changed 3/25/2018 10:26:45 PM password changed Smart man himself confessed that he collaborated with Adab and received money from them, but everyone pretended that they did not notice this. Even after I pointed it out! ~ If you are interested, the whole topic can be read here: Total corruption in Russian local [DT involved!] |
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(Proof of untruths about DT members by KTChampions)
It's a troll. There too much such kind of people in russian local board. As you can see suchmoon stopped to answer 2 or 3 pages before. It's just our well known local board troll.
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What an interesting story! I will not even discuss this lie. I prefer to talk about the facts that are discussed in the subject, so 4 questions for you: 1.) Smart man is involved in a huge circuit of merit abuse. Yes/No?
2.) Smart man has a lot of alts and with the help of them he deceives customers by making false reviews in his thread. Yes/No?
3.) Smart man is involved in the scam project Adab Solutions. Yes/No?
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(Proof of untruths about DT members by KTChampions)
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Why are you so slow? I started this story and I knew how it would end: ~ The essence will remain the same - if you do not tag the scamer, then you need to tag those who point the scamer with a finger (and those who cover it)  And yes, I claim that Ru local is mired in corruption and I do not trust a large number of DT members. But back to the facts. Another illustration from my start post:  Two users synchronously became Senior members in just 6 days (1/25/2018 - 1/31/2018) with nice scheme of merit abuse. And ... apparently there is no evidence.  |
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xtraelv1.) Perhaps you will see a correlation when you analyze a lot of individual cases (as i do). But you refuse to give a specific answer, even about one user tema. 1) I fail to see the direct correlation between tema and Total corruption in Russian local involving DTs. If you have a problem with Tema then open a thread in reputation about it. 1.) I do not see your answer to this point, so I repeat my question: But when a huge number of abusers send merit to one user it is obvious merit abuse. And what can you say about tema? He sent merit only to abusers (as I showed in detail). Is this behavior trustworthy? No answer. 2.) Please, give me a direct link to this answer. 2) Already answered in detail. Read my previous responses. 2.) Smart man has a lot of alts and with the help of them he deceives customers by making false reviews in his thread. Yes/No? I showed his alts and their behavior here and hereAny objections or do you agree? No answer. 3.) Please, give me a direct link to this answer. 3) Already answered in detail. Read my previous responses. 3.) I do not see your answer to this point, so I repeat my question: In the link you posted he explained himself. He withdrew from the project and even publicly stated that he thought it was a scam.
To me it indicates that he got involved with something he disagreed with, left and was transparent about it. It does not make me think that he is an intentional scammer. Why you want to believe in words but not in facts? He collaborated with the project and received money from it. He knew that this project was scam. He was silent about it. He confessed that he had collaborated with the project and knew that it was a scam only after he received accusations of fraud - only 1 year later from the project started. Fraudsters had a lot of time to deceive people. Smart man is a scamer. It is facts not just words. Any objections or do you agree? No answer. 4.) Please, give me a direct link to this answer. 4) Already answered in detail. Read my previous responses. 4.) Smart man was hiring in and offering Spam-service. Yes/No? Same: When I talk about spam you say there is no evidence. When I talk about bumping, you say that spam is not prohibited (according to Teymos). Do you seriously think that I will not see this juggling?  Can you answer without juggling? Did Smart man hire people in the bumping service and did he offer such services? The value of posts that are written for one purpose - the thread bump will be discussed later. No answer. What I have found over time is that there are a number of relatively new users that come to the forum and decide that they are self appointed judge, jury and executioner and like a zealot have a strict and uncompromising view of the world. Everyone else is wrong and they are right.
Oh  ~ At the moment I do not understand the arguments of taikuri13 and chimk, who have written about the situation with the Smart manIt is absolutely obvious from the evidence that the Smart man recruited people to provide bumping / shilling services for projects. And there seems to be no doubt that bumping services harm forum users, the reasons have been repeatedly mentioned in this topic. ~ MaoChao is not new user, zealot etc. Do you know MaoChao? What do you say about his opinion? If suddenly you find time and desire to continue the discussion, please come back. I see it is very difficult for you to discuss a large amount of information. Especially for you I will lower the level of discussion. 1.) What can you say about bumping (taking into account proofs and the opinion of Mao Chao)? 2.) What about alts of Smart man? I respect MaoChao's opinion, but if he is satisfied with these facts, they are not enough for me. Everyone has their own point of view on the amount of information to complete the evidence base. The fact that you will try to tie the respected users of the Russian locale into a corruption scheme is a complete nonsense! In fact, there are a lot of DT users and maybe some of them will have enough of your evidence but not me. I started to notice trolling about me, and I don't talk to trolls. So, your first attempt to avoid discussing about specific facts was the answer "I do not know." Now a new attempt in the form of an answer: "You are a troll." And why did you completely miss the second point? ~ At the moment I do not understand the arguments of taikuri13 and chimk, who have written about the situation with the Smart manIt is absolutely obvious from the evidence that the Smart man recruited people to provide bumping / shilling services for projects. And there seems to be no doubt that bumping services harm forum users, the reasons have been repeatedly mentioned in this topic. ~ Hmmm... Evidence is not enough! (C) madnessteat.
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1) I fail to see the direct correlation between tema and Total corruption in Russian local involving DTs.
If you have a problem with Tema then open a thread in reputation about it.
1.) Perhaps you will see a correlation when you analyze a lot of individual cases (as i do). But you refuse to give a specific answer, even about one user tema. 2) Already answered in detail. Read my previous responses.
2.) Please, give me a direct link to this answer. 3) Already answered in detail. Read my previous responses.
3.) Please, give me a direct link to this answer. 4) Already answered in detail. Read my previous responses.
4.) Please, give me a direct link to this answer. If you want to discuss individual transgressions then there is the reputation board for that.
Of course, I will do it, but here I want to show the general situation that is shaping up due to a combination of individual violations of many users. What I have found over time is that there are a number of relatively new users that come to the forum and decide that they are self appointed judge, jury and executioner and like a zealot have a strict and uncompromising view of the world. Everyone else is wrong and they are right.
Oh ~ At the moment I do not understand the arguments of taikuri13 and chimk, who have written about the situation with the Smart manIt is absolutely obvious from the evidence that the Smart man recruited people to provide bumping / shilling services for projects. And there seems to be no doubt that bumping services harm forum users, the reasons have been repeatedly mentioned in this topic. ~ MaoChao is not new user, zealot etc. There are a number of DTs that in the past have taken uncompromising views on some of these issues. Several of them have been removed or publicly reprimanded for taking such uncompromising views.
 This is your feedback. I showed that Smart man is a account farmer and showed some of his alts. It is ok? Wow!  What a great post! How many arguments! So... After you defended the scamer, you can’t say anything smarter than “I don't know”? Even after I showed specific facts and you just have to think about them? I didn't say, "I don't know." I said I couldn't say "yes" for sure because of the lack of evidence. Without hard evidence this is just your guess. Such assumptions can be made as much as you like with respect to any forum user. Please also note that I am not defending Smart man. If you had incontrovertible evidence that Smart man is abusing something, I would support you. I see it is very difficult for you to discuss a large amount of information. Especially for you I will lower the level of discussion. 1.) What can you say about bumping (taking into account proofs and the opinion of Mao Chao)? 2.) What about alts of Smart man? |
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xtraelv If you answered point by point, as I do, there would be no confusion. Let's continue. 1.) I do not see your answer to this point, so I repeat my question: But when a huge number of abusers send merit to one user it is obvious merit abuse. And what can you say about tema? He sent merit only to abusers (as I showed in detail). Is this behavior trustworthy? 2.) Smart man has a lot of alts and with the help of them he deceives customers by making false reviews in his thread. Yes/No? I showed his alts and their behavior here and hereAny objections or do you agree? 3.) I do not see your answer to this point, so I repeat my question: In the link you posted he explained himself. He withdrew from the project and even publicly stated that he thought it was a scam.
To me it indicates that he got involved with something he disagreed with, left and was transparent about it. It does not make me think that he is an intentional scammer. Why you want to believe in words but not in facts? He collaborated with the project and received money from it. He knew that this project was scam. He was silent about it. He confessed that he had collaborated with the project and knew that it was a scam only after he received accusations of fraud - only 1 year later from the project started. Fraudsters had a lot of time to deceive people. Smart man is a scamer. It is facts not just words. Any objections or do you agree? 4.) Smart man was hiring in and offering Spam-service. Yes/No? Same: When I talk about spam you say there is no evidence. When I talk about bumping, you say that spam is not prohibited (according to Teymos). Do you seriously think that I will not see this juggling? Can you answer without juggling? Did Smart man hire people in the bumping service and did he offer such services? The value of posts that are written for one purpose - the thread bump will be discussed later. Have you read the thread?
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1.) Smart man is involved in a huge circuit of merit abuse. Yes/No?
2.) Smart man has a lot of alts and with the help of them he deceives customers by making false reviews in his thread. Yes/No?
3.) Smart man is involved in the scam project Adab Solutions. Yes/No?
4.) Smart man was hiring in and offering Spam-service. Yes/No?
I can't answer any of these questions "yes" as I only make decisions about any user if I'm 100% sure I'm right. There is simply no hard evidence and if there isn't, you can easily make a mistake. Wow! What a great post! How many arguments! So... After you defended the scamer, you can’t say anything smarter than “I don't know”? Even after I showed specific facts and you just have to think about them?
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Забанены: Yury1 tvplus006 kirreev070 YulyNov SeverusSnegg FapToBbly MrFreeRoMan Ссылка на профиль amaclin1 ведёт на профиль leonello. И Polytesse схватил красный траст за абуз баунти кампаний с альтами. Тоже надо бы цветом выделить. |
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Вариант №8 Роршах.
Хомячьи туши в переулке поутру, след шины на разорванном брюхе.
Этот мир под названием Crypto боится меня, я видел его истинное лицо. Проекты - продолжение сточных канав, а канавы заполнены скамом. И когда стоки будут окончательно забиты вся эта мразь начнет тонуть. Когда скопившаяся грязь мошенничества и обмана вспенится им до пояса все криптоанархисты и влошенцы посмотрят наверх и возопят - Спаси нас!
Я прошепчу: Неет.
Теперь вся пирамида стоит на краю. Глядя вниз в чертово пекло, все эти сектанты, биткоинэнтузиасты, сладкоголосые болтуны... и отчего-то вдруг никто не знает что сказать...
Подо мной этот ужасный форум. Он вопит как скотобойня полная умственно отсталых детей, а ночь воняет жаждой наживы и нечистой совестью. Вот это самое близкое мне по духу. Такс. Отставить воровство! Я вижу ваш каждый шаг! У нас же блохчейн Если вы попытаетесь присвоить себе чужую личину я буду жаловаться в суд леди Гааги  |
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xtraelv 1.) Yes. But when a huge number of abusers send merit to one user it is obvious merit abuse. And what can you say about tema? He sent merit only to abusers (as I showed in detail). Is this behavior trustworthy? 2.) In the link you posted he explained himself. He withdrew from the project and even publicly stated that he thought it was a scam.
To me it indicates that he got involved with something he disagreed with, left and was transparent about it. It does not make me think that he is an intentional scammer. Why you want to believe in words but not in facts? He collaborated with the project and received money from it. He knew that this project was scam. He was silent about it. He confessed that he had collaborated with the project and knew that it was a scam only after he received accusations of fraud - only 1 year later from the project started. Fraudsters had a lot of time to deceive people. Smart man is a scamer. It is facts not just words. 3.) Why did you miss this item? I showed many alt accounts of Smart man and gave you examples of their fraudulent behavior. Do you want to continue the dispute on this point or agree that here he is a scamer? 4.) What is the name of hiring workers with multiple accounts for bumping a thread and providing this kind of service?
Evidence of these actions is in the first message.
Theymos said: Some people were talking about neg-trusting spammers for spamming. This is not appropriate; report the posts, and if that doesn't seem to be working well, come to Meta with specific examples and suggestions.
What part of that is unclear to you ? When I talk about spam you say there is no evidence. When I talk about bumping, you say that spam is not prohibited (according to Teymos). Do you seriously think that I will not see this juggling? Alex_SrWhy do you run away from discussing the facts? We started the discussion point by point, but you are trying to escape. Since you are defending a scamer, then continue doing so, or acknowledge the fallacy of your behavior. KTChampions I have nothing personal against you and I treat you in a neutral manner, just like other users of this forum. I don't want to offend you, but your investigation without the necessary evidence looks ridiculous.
You try to accuse many worthy users of the Russian locale of corruption. See if you think these users are worthy because they do useful things for the forum, not just trolling or writing meaningless messages.
Have you read the thread? So 4 questions for you: 1.) Smart man is involved in a huge circuit of merit abuse. Yes/No?
2.) Smart man has a lot of alts and with the help of them he deceives customers by making false reviews in his thread. Yes/No?
3.) Smart man is involved in the scam project Adab Solutions. Yes/No?
4.) Smart man was hiring in and offering Spam-service. Yes/No? Doesn't it seem to you that trying to connect me with esmanthra is ridiculous? You, as a native speaker of the language, should easily distinguish my manner of communication from that of esmanthra. Changing your password in one day is just a coincidence.
When I see a person calling black white, I (naturally) become suspicious of him. It's just our well known local board troll.
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What an interesting story! I will not even discuss this lie. I prefer to talk about the facts that are discussed in the subject, so 4 questions for you: 1.) Smart man is involved in a huge circuit of merit abuse. Yes/No?
2.) Smart man has a lot of alts and with the help of them he deceives customers by making false reviews in his thread. Yes/No?
3.) Smart man is involved in the scam project Adab Solutions. Yes/No?
4.) Smart man was hiring in and offering Spam-service. Yes/No? 4 allAnother remarkable evidence of Smart man's fraudulent behavior (thanks to attentive users!): Approximately 60$?
I can say so, plus or minus 65 at the price of ETH. He discusses the price of accounts with the famous ru account seller.
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I am stating a fact: xtraelv was unable to continue the conversation about specific facts and just ignores my last message in our discussion. He is also trying to divert the conversation towards discussing the case with Yobit (and members of its signature campaign accused of spam) - which is irrelevant to our topic. Another fact: chimik can not answer simple questions posed to him in this message. But he continues to defend the scamer and refusing to acknowledge the fact: Offering "ICO bumping" services, also known as paid shill bumping. This is a highly shady offer which helps generate fake buzz for various projects. |
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REQUIRED POSTING IN ENGLISH THREADS
1. Contact me if in your accounts at least half of the posts in English.
2. Posts up from 100 signs.
3. Express an opinion about the project, ask questions. Don't write nonsense.
4. English is not Google translate.
5. You have from 5 accounts. Is this something thats allowed here ? If this is true then why DTs from Russian section didn't neg him? We had seen lot of negs in the previous days even for the suspicion but offering such kind of services are completely untrustworthy behaviour. Check the first post of this thread and opinions of some DT members - chimik, taikuri13, Alex_Sr. Corruption. |
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I was charged with protecting the service and in the conflict of interest. In this post, KTChampions lied twice. I do not advertise or defend the service.
Ha ha. I'm lying, and you are telling the truth? Check the facts. Smart man hiring in and offering bump service: REQUIRED POSTING IN ENGLISH THREADS
1. Contact me if in your accounts at least half of the posts in English.
2. Posts up from 100 signs.
3. Express an opinion about the project, ask questions. Don't write nonsense.
4. English is not Google translate.
5. You have from 5 accounts. I will completely do (with the command) the required:
- posting messages to thread on btt.
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Hi guys looking for posters for a project. Write your telegram in pm.
So what exactly is needed? Posts on btt, thread bumping on btt? Writing articles? PM me. These are facts. And how does Chimik rate them? chimk (Hero member, DT-1, merit source) ~
I saw that he was hiring in posting service, in good English, with a requirement for the quality of the content (both volume and content). There is no evidence that this is a promotion of scam projects, that the service has been implemented by shitposting-not proven, the existence of the service itself from this post is also in question.
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This is an obvious defense of the scam that harms the forum with spam and meaningless messages written for one purpose - to bump the project thread. Chimik defend Smart man and his spam on forum. It is facts.Chimik, your behavior is not trustworthy obvious, but additionally answer these questions: 1.) Smart man is involved in a huge circuit of merit abuse. Yes/No?
2.) Smart man has a lot of alts and with the help of them he deceives customers by making false reviews in his thread. Yes/No?
3.) Smart man is involved in the scam project Adab Solutions. Yes/No? Question number 4 is missing as above, I have already shown a chimiks lie on this issue. It's funny that chimik believes the words of a scamer, not facts. And it is very interesting that in the first report, Smart man tells how he collaborated with the scammers Adab, but chimik does not see any problems! Although Smart man writes that they are scamers, he did not warn anyone about this.
I read a lot of forum, sometimes it leads to a comparison of suspicious facts, it takes a lot of time.
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Other cases involving Smart man, I have not studied.
Are you stupid or blind? I showed in the first post how easily and quickly find facts that shows that Smart man is a scamer. You are protecting a fraudster but are not able to verify his profile by yourself? I doubt, most likely you know all but continue to protect him. I can show another lie that the chimik wrote, but I don’t want to give him a chance to go to offtopic. Therefore, I will wait for an answer to the questions posed. |
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1.) Smart man is involved in a huge circuit of merit abuse. Yes/No?
2.) Smart man has a lot of alts and with the help of them he deceives customers by making false reviews in his thread. Yes/No?
3.) Smart man is involved in the scam project Adab Solutions. Yes/No?
4.) Smart man was hiring in and offering Spam-service. Yes/No?
Give answer please.
1. Maybe yes, maybe no. I don't see 100% proof. 2. From what such conclusions are drawn? 3. I'm not aware of this project. 4. Proposed service - Yes, the spam service - where is the evidence? Back to my 4 questions: 1.) What proof is required? Notarized receipt? I showed the facts. 2.) Did you read this post? Everything is already clear, but I went further. I checked the topic where Smart Man offers his services (writing WP and promotion of ICO) and allegedly communicates with customers. Within 10 minutes, I discovered that most of the discussion participants were alts of Smart Man. To save space and time I will show the most interesting ones: Blanchrc40 3/25/2018 9:32:14 PM password changed 5/9/2019 8:34:21 AM woke up Hiring in bumping serviceMrBoston 3/25/2018 9:48:00 PM password changed 5/14/2019 9:52:40 PM woke up Fixxer767 3/25/2018 10:20:35 PM password changed 5/12/2019 1:30:10 AM woke up Jeronimo78 3/18/2018 4:13:10 PM password changed 5/9/2019 8:29:33 AM woke up 3.) Find out. It is easy. 4.) Do you also need proof that spam service exists to produce spam? |
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Alex_Sr (Hero member, DT-1) For whom did I write about the search of proofs? Reasonable questions to be asked:
1. What accounts were hired?
2. What threads did they write in?
3. Give examples of messages, how many messages are deleted as spam?
4. Was there a contract at all?
There are answers to these questions - there is a red trust, there are no answers to these questions - there is no red trust. It seems accessible and understandable? Thank you for translating my quote. As I already wrote previously - your weakness lies in absence of 100% proof. It's a digital forum. Users forum much more believe facts and figure, than idle speculation. 1.) Smart man is involved in a huge circuit of merit abuse. Yes/No?
2.) Smart man has a lot of alts and with the help of them he deceives customers by making false reviews in his thread. Yes/No?
3.) Smart man is involved in the scam project Adab Solutions. Yes/No?
4.) Smart man was hiring in and offering Spam-service. Yes/No? Give answer please. |
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