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1541  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos on: October 14, 2014, 10:10:14 PM
Cool bud, thank you again!  Can you point me to the instructions for setup though, I was not able to find them.

There aren't any. You can just download it, install it, and pay coins into it. :-)

1542  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos on: October 14, 2014, 09:56:30 PM
I FINALLY broke the 1000 XC mark:-)

Is it worth it to setup as a node rather than just regular staking?  Is it now pretty easy to setup?



Congratulations!

Mixer nodes will stake if transaction volume is low (which it is at the moment). So you could set up a node and just let it run. You'd either stake or get tx fees.

It's incredibly easy. Just install it and run it. :-)

Best to make four payments of 250XC to four separate addresses in it.



Cool man, thanks for the reply.

I know things have changed much with this node stuff and I have not been able to keep up!  Can you point me to the latest instructions on setting this up bud?

If I have a bit more than 1k, should I still move it all into one wallet for the node, still splitting it up into 4 chunks to different addies?  If I acquire more XC, is it wise to just keep adding them to the node wallet?


EDIT - Yeah I tried to find instructions on setting up the node, but could not.  Website says instructions to be uploaded soon.  Will wait to hear back from you.

Yeah, it's fine to have more than 1000XC in an Xmixer.

In fact, it'll enable the node to handle larger transactions.

Just split it into 250XC chunks. Larger amounts aren't a problem. You can keep making payments to the Xmixer as you go. That's no problem.



1543  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos on: October 14, 2014, 09:01:14 PM
I FINALLY broke the 1000 XC mark:-)

Is it worth it to setup as a node rather than just regular staking?  Is it now pretty easy to setup?



Congratulations!

Mixer nodes will stake if transaction volume is low (which it is at the moment). So you could set up a node and just let it run. You'd either stake or get tx fees.

It's incredibly easy. Just install it and run it. :-)

Best to make four payments of 250XC to four separate addresses in it.


How long does it take before you can stake? Maybe i should move my funds. Holding this one for long term now.

A couple of weeks normally, after which you'll get stakes pretty frequently.

1544  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos on: October 14, 2014, 08:40:51 PM
I FINALLY broke the 1000 XC mark:-)

Is it worth it to setup as a node rather than just regular staking?  Is it now pretty easy to setup?



Congratulations!

Mixer nodes will stake if transaction volume is low (which it is at the moment). So you could set up a node and just let it run. You'd either stake or get tx fees.

It's incredibly easy. Just install it and run it. :-)

Best to make four payments of 250XC to four separate addresses in it.

1545  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos on: October 14, 2014, 07:29:21 PM
where can i find more info about xc ?

Right here, I presume. Or here.

What do you want to know? Ask away.



website is good too

http://xc-official.com/

The website is rather out of date at the moment, excepting the news section.
1546  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos on: October 14, 2014, 06:41:23 PM
where can i find more info about xc ?

Right here, I presume. Or here.

What do you want to know? Ask away.


1547  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos on: October 14, 2014, 05:43:53 PM
Dan reviewing other coin's code is the best marketing strategy XC could have.

All of the other coin's investor's see their coin's code was reviewed by a guy named Dan, and so they look him up...

This leads them to XC... and because they are already invested in a coin that Dan is reviewing they are more likely to invest in XC.



This is a VERY high yield marketing strategy, and money cannot buy better leads than this.



yeah no.  I see a dev reviewing shitcoins and I see a developer who isn't excited enough about his own project to funnel all of his energy there.

Throw in the fact that the coins are competing - I see a developer who doesn't understand the term conflict of interest.

So no.  That's not what everyone sees.

I see a revolutionary coin and a revolutionary approach to the community. The tech is great and still under heavy development -> so be patient.
The approach to the crypto community is revolutionary in the sense that we as a community take on this financial privacy centered innovation together.
The world has been in conflict ever since the current elite has existed. It has always been a method http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divide_and_rule to separate the people and getting them not to accomplish their goals and see the real problems.

This is exactly how most people view crypto as well at the moment; they support one team and all the rest is bad. You dont realize this is the revolution the world has been waiting for, for a long time! It's so damn early in the game you actually get to question the development of coins. It's like facebook when they where still programming it. There are no losers in this scene, since everyone here is already aware of these developments.

I understand it's hard to look at this with a new set of eyes, it's a whole new paradigm. (you've learned to view the world in conflict)
Let developers learn and cooperate with each others.
Most coins will fail, but not the lessons they bring the community. We are evolving at a rate that is unlike anything else!
A lot of coins will serve very specific niches of the market. I trust XC with their "odd approach" to make the same kind of gutt based decisions as the team has done until now. I have faith that the coins that cooperate from the view of sharing strengths will boost each other and get this community to an entire new level

There are 2 sides to every coin.  Should I provide the opposing view?

No. This conversation has been had, at length, twice.

1548  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos on: October 14, 2014, 10:17:48 AM

I see a revolutionary coin and a revolutionary approach to the community. The tech is great and still under heavy development -> so be patient.
The approach to the crypto community is revolutionary in the sense that we as a community take on this financial privacy centered innovation together.
The world has been in conflict ever since the current elite has existed. It has always been a method http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divide_and_rule to separate the people and getting them not to accomplish their goals and see the real problems.

This is exactly how most people view crypto as well at the moment; they support one team and all the rest is bad. You dont realize this is the revolution the world has been waiting for, for a long time! It's so damn early in the game you actually get to question the development of coins. It's like facebook when they where still programming it. There are no losers in this scene, since everyone here is already aware of these developments.

I understand it's hard to look at this with a new set of eyes, it's a whole new paradigm. (you've learned to view the world in conflict)
Let developers learn and cooperate with each others.
Most coins will fail, but not the lessons they bring the community. We are evolving at a rate that is unlike anything else!
A lot of coins will serve very specific niches of the market. I trust XC with their "odd approach" to make the same kind of gutt based decisions as the team has done until now. I have faith that the coins that cooperate from the view of sharing strengths will boost each other and get this community to an entire new level

Great post...is it worth doing up a "policy" on XCs formal position on collaboration, it sure might save a lot of misunderstanding when announcements get made, and help focus the news in a positive direction.
And now we have a great view of the current situation and a great idea, both in a row
+1


Morning folks

Yes, great idea, and a fantastic post. I'm very glad to see that others appreciate the central importance of collaboration.

Speaking of collaboration, stay tuned for some singularly good news today or tomorrow.

1549  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos on: October 14, 2014, 12:50:36 AM

Edit: hey Arlyn, ya think you can read something "cool and hip" before you begin writing this next announcement involving UTIL.  Thanks😄

As opposed to, say, this?

Lol, Exactly. As for cloak, the best move would be for holders to sell and invest here. Yes this is an experiment, but at least we know XCurrency is legit.

Bingo: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Moxyland-Lauren-Beukes/dp/0857662708
1550  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos on: October 14, 2014, 12:29:48 AM

A lot of people lost money. They'll attempt a community takeover to recoup some of their losses, plus cloak had quite a bit of press. A respected dev could help to get the coin moving again and back in development.


Fair enough. In that case, best of luck to them.
1551  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos on: October 14, 2014, 12:27:45 AM

Edit: hey Arlyn, ya think you can read something "cool and hip" before you begin writing this next announcement involving UTIL.  Thanks😄

As opposed to, say, this?
1552  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos on: October 13, 2014, 11:53:49 PM

Woah. No. Is Cloak still alive?

Sounds like someone's taken the initiative to try raise funds in order to pay for reviews.

After that, presumably they'll approach Dan.

What mystifies me is why they'd bother resurrecting Cloak. What's the point?
1553  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos on: October 13, 2014, 11:27:22 PM
Dan reviewing other coin's code is the best marketing strategy XC could have.

All of the other coin's investor's see their coin's code was reviewed by a guy named Dan, and so they look him up...

This leads them to XC... and because they are already invested in a coin that Dan is reviewing they are more likely to invest in XC.



This is a VERY high yield marketing strategy, and money cannot buy better leads than this.



yeah no.  I see a dev reviewing shitcoins and I see a developer who isn't excited enough about his own project to funnel all of his energy there.

Throw in the fact that the coins are competing - I see a developer who doesn't understand the term conflict of interest.

So no.  That's not what everyone sees.

In order to avoid repeating myself a third time, please read the posts in the three days prior to XC's announcement of its collaboration with NHZ.

If you still don't get the value of collaboration after that, no-one can help you.

1554  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos on: October 13, 2014, 08:38:30 PM
Imho, if reviewing other currencys and their code, and that is putting things in XC on halt, why keep doing it?

Because Dan gets paid between 3 and 6 BTC for every review he does.

It's *not* putting anything on hold.

As I said a little earlier, it both accelerates and broadens XC's development. You'll probably find out how tomorrow or the next day.


This is a conversation that's now been had – at length – twice in this thread. I'm not interested in repeating myself again.

Can anyone else who wants to discuss this read up on it first?


1555  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos on: October 13, 2014, 06:30:29 PM
Imho, if reviewing other currencys and their code, and that is putting things in XC on halt, why keep doing it?

How did you come to the conclusion that XC will be on hold?

Just to be clear, collaborations do not delay XC's progress, they do two things: they accelerate it, and they broaden it.


1556  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos on: October 13, 2014, 06:18:16 PM
I don't get it, has Dan left the XC project or is he just multitasking?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collaboration

Quote
Collaboration is working with others to do a task and to achieve shared goals. It is a recursive process where two or more or organizations work together[/b] to realize shared goals, (this is more than the intersection of common goals seen in co-operative ventures, but a deep, collective determination to reach an identical objective

Let me just quote my earlier statement:

[UtilityCoin]

Hi all

I can confirm that Dan specifically requested that nothing from Util be published without his prior review, but they went ahead regardless.

Dan is, however, interested in consulting with Util, specifically regarding their http-vpn tech.


Most importantly, the intention is for all collaboration to benefit XC.

In this case, our plans will benefit XC massively.

I can't release details just yet, but it's quite likely that we'll let the word out tomorrow or the next day.

It's a particularly major development.

1557  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos on: October 13, 2014, 06:13:04 PM
I don't get it, has Dan left the XC project or is he just multitasking?


Huh?

Edit: are you aware of how and why XC collaborates?

- http://xc-official.com/xc-news/
1558  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Re: [ANN][UTIL] UtilityCoin - x13 POS - 5/5 POD - **Milestone and Roadmap** on: October 13, 2014, 05:44:16 PM

Let's all move on. From what I see XC and UTIL will mutually benefit from this. We can all get along.

Hear hear. I'm XC's PR person. Who's in charge of PR here? Let's co-ordinate things.

1559  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos on: October 13, 2014, 05:00:23 PM
I think that I speak for the whole XC community if I say that we would appreciate it if we get informed before Dan decides to do another collaboration.

Ahem...

On a side note, I've been contacted by several dev's on a various list of projects - just wanted to keep the community in the loop

* Ruble Code review
* Britcoin - license rev1 mixer code
* Utility Coin - collaboration
* Supernet - collaboration


Dan


1560  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos on: October 13, 2014, 04:58:48 PM

I can't release details just yet, but it's quite likely that we'll let the word out tomorrow or the next day.

It's a particularly major development.


Will this announcement show a feature delivered in XC or will it be another PR announcement which showcases something in the future?

Hmm... that question is tangential to the announcement. I could say yes to both sides of the disjunction, though at the expense of not doing justice to the sense in which you intend your question to be understood.



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