Ah okay, now I understand, this case seems to be a class action against BFL if I recall correctly. This may be funded by multiple members.
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Part 2:
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Part 1: Please note: this is not the FTC vs BFL case. This is a side case started by another member against BFL. I will henceforth be posting prior to having read them, so I do not know what they contain. This disclaimer applies to all documents going forward.Links to public documents are available upon request.
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[All of this is my opinion/ pure speculation]
What a ton of bullshit.
There are so many different ways to know exactly how many miners were released into the wild at any given point. (within a reasonable error rate).
From the time it left the dock, it has tracking, that tracking has a transaction number, they used flat rate most of the time, so they can quickly figure out just how many units left the dock.
They are just playing hard to get. As Bruno would say, spare not the microscope.
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This is the same across all fronts, they keep playing the dumb blonde. Except they don't have the blonde hair and aren't dirty nor that dumb.
What their end goal seems to be is to "avoid knowing anything", therefore "there are no statistics", and therefore no case can be devised nor any single truth known.
Sonny must be a good at sitting in a corner in deep prayer, but I fear his luck is gradually running out at each turn (and across each case). The Plaintiffs will get him despite his efforts to stall for as long as possible. Lawyers do not stop consuming other peoples cash.
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Edited for brevity, originals available upon request.
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LOL, what a coincidence. Time to phone it in to the IRS/FBI? Oh, wait, isn't there already a case open by ______ M. ___________?
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291 is a riot. BFL's attorneys are now hoping that they're entitled to payment somehow but the FTC shot that shit down. ROFL. Actually, if you read 291, VERY CAREFULLY you can actually see that BFL's legal team made tons of really obvious mistakes. In all honesty, I think BFL is mandating the course of actions and their legal team probably have to comply. I don't honestly believe their legal team could make this many mistakes (as cited by the FTC). I know sometimes attorneys wish to "appease" their clients as long as they are getting paid....but 291 shows just how many obvious mistakes are being made and how the fight is seemingly nonsense on one front. The attorneys used the improper naming scheme to sue a federal entity. A pretty darn obvious mistake if you are an attorney. <EPIC face palm> Who the fook is in charge over there?! I will pay them on the side to keep doing exactly what they are doing! LMAO!
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THE FURRIEST GAME EVER? | Cards Against Humanity https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZkG5vDrgRg@Dabitcoinguy I have taken your criticism to heart. I am attempting to figure out a way to make the docket readable like one of those Star Wars intros.
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I also ask Josh a personal favor, por favor, do not harm our companion if you lose this case as well. I plead with you. He is a gentle and fragile man (physically speaking) a gentle giant. Or put another way, Please, do not punch our gentle Bruno if you ever feel upset. He is like our very own BitcoinTalk's Gandalf (the sketchy). Sometimes he mumbles, other times he pulls out wonderful things from his aging hat and shows us the mystery behind the puzzle that are BFL. Would you punch our Gandalf? No, we know you wouldn't. (we hope ) So please, protect him when he is with you. You used to be really good friends. So cherish him and his hat full of facts and strange (but often true) stories when he is with you. May our adventurer find his way back.
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Can anyone tell me what is Bruno's vs Josh court case number? The one on the documents (perhaps I am reading it wrong) can't be found on http://www.jococourts.org/I noticed that while looking it up with Josh's name (tried Bruno's but no results that I could see) he has been suing people. Often looks like Josh ends up losing the cases apparently and having to pay as the Plaintiff who started the case. I also noticed in prior cases he defended himself without a lawyer. I suppose that might have something to do with it? Anyway, if someone could link all of us to the current case, let us know.
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Bruno, you just brought the hammer down...so hard....that Thor wondered if you broke his tool.
[strongly worded speculation] Fook me, this is incredibly strong evidence that Josh is likely to be a part owner of BFL and was in fact probably around as one of the principles behind the scenes. (Yes, likely before even his employment?)
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Need a SELF-Moderated version... to keep the crap out. Agreed. We have links to the court dockets, we do not need to be force fed them with mile long pictures. You will be force fed dockets. At least until you understand A) that BFL is crippled in legalease speak, and B) that they are struggling in all this to stay above the incoming waves.
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Edited for brevity, originals available upon request.
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Nice, so the posts are just memes now. That's actually funny when you can't sort memes from information... reading too much /b/ maybe?Roll Eyes
Edit: Keliticfox, how did your saucy exploit go? Did BFL respond?
Yes, BFL did respond. They rescinded their previous statement in which they offered a refund (when I sent them photos of the damage). They then stated that I could have a refund if I shipped device back and it had been tested to 'eliminate user error'. As per my (very clear) instructions to BFL, I did go ahead and contact the various 3 letter agencies that I said I would. Agency A: Advised to not send the Monarch back as they are very interested in testing it themselves. Agency B: Very interested and has now referred the case to another agency who's the equivalent of the FTC in the UK. Agency C: Responded within 6 minutes(!) that they want to talk to me via telephone (from the USA) this week. Agency C is the agency that BFL really do not want involved. Agency D: Referred me back to Agency B. Now the agencies involved are; the CAB, the HSE, the FTC, the EC & the TSA. Can you guess which agency is which? Thank you KelticFox, if only we had more members like you. Sometimes it feels like you have to push people to do something this beneficial to their own good. http://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/http://www.hse.gov.uk/http://www.ftc.govhttp://ec.europa.eu/index_en.htmhttp://www.tsa.gov/
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And mods don't ban, admins do, all we need to do is point admins at behaviour and let them decide.
I am unsure if that is true or not. I do recall Psychotic Boy banned a member. I don't recall any Admin being involved in that episode. He wasn't even the Mod of that board that he used his moderators powers over. Please don't insinuate I'm trying to protect bfl in any fucking way. I do sense your inner clown (that is a good thing) so I know you are a good mod. Take a look at it for yourself and try and convince yourself it was in any way a mining hardware thread.
One last question, Inaba and BFL_Josh have deprived individuals of millions in their delayed refunds. Documented fact. (non-disputable) Question: Has anything been done against either of these two accounts: BFL_Josh and Inaba? Have they been suspended? Banned? Anything? You have people committing far lessor offenses against Bitcointalk and it's population and somehow they result in a Ban very quickly. What the deal with this? ===================== Another fact, these incidents with BFL and their refund (or their reasonable fulfillment issues) have happened no less than 3 times with the same events repeating themselves year after year. Still, they somehow continue as if the Admins above are completely blind to the obvious facts of how these people impact Bitcoin or it's Bitcointalk members. If BFL were to open a new exciting thread in the hardware section to announce the sale of some new hardware with the same premise (pre-order, OR a request for customer funds with a wait time greater than 7 days before 100% fulfillment); would the Admins and Mods allow this to happen for the 4th or 5th time AGAIN? Only serious question with serious responses PLEASE.
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On the topic of Bruno, it would be interesting if he fainted in court and has to request medical intervention. Hopefully screwing the date of the appearance by a few months and a few expensive lawyer payments between then and later.
Whoa, I think I dozed off a bit there while writing on my keyboard.
Edit: Hmm, interesting delirious episode I had. It brings up an interesting point. Will there be a well funded BFL with cash to spend between now and June? Who knows?
Edit2: I suppose that whole receivership payment stalemate will probably turn side ways by the end of April at the longest. You know, recieverships do not like to work for free and get upset when they don't get their bonanza payments on time. Hopefully, they are retaining enough refunds to pull them through to see the end of the FTC case. One can only hope for the best.
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I would also avoid using labels like "facts" as BFL would contest any facts with their own made up "bullshit". And by bullshit, I mean whatever it is they legitimately believe to be based on truth. (in theory, or in a hypothesis, in otherwords I am not entirely sure if that is the case or not, purely speculation, )
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rik, it's best to do it yourself instead of complaining. I mean, seriously...
The complaining isn't for me really. I've got pacer access so I get clean versions of all the legal stuff. It's the other stuff that I wish was more user friendly. Perhaps I'll just compile bruno's post and take out the colorful banter. Would take some time to work through the backlog but there is good information. It would just be easier if an editor resided somewhere between his brain and his fingers. I think that would work really well but there should be room for retaining the speculative pieces of information. It could easily be hosted in a static HTML document, and having it hosted somewhere wouldn't be hard. I would advise some kind of collaboration, because Bruno knows where all of his posts are and what info they hold. Something to think about. You might want to use a Google word document. You can collaborate online and restrict editing privledges to certain individuals. Everyone else could only read it. I have seen people use it for independent korean news. It works effectively from what I can remember.
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Blame Vod! This is what happened.
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