I suggest trying a live usb of Debian - https://www.debian.org/. With live usb you can run off a usb stick and not even have to do a install on HD. So your suggestion is for me to run another OS? Hmm, that seems like quite a reach just to get a couple stick miners hashing. My XP machine is my main computer, I use it for a lot of stuff including my bitcoin node, not sure I want to go messing with additional operating systems... Be sure to run zadig as administrator. I plugged in 1 stick at a time and made sure zadig used the correct driver. Is you batch file specifying a frequency ... cgminer -o stratum+tcp://stratum.mining.eligius.st:3334 -u 1BURGERAXHH6Yi6LRybRJK7ybEm5m5HwTr --compac-freq 150
I understand how to use zadig, that is not an issue here. As shown in my post I am specifying a frequency.
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I am having difficulties with bfgminer530 and the compac usb sticks. First, no hub with bfgminer using .bat = bfgminer.exe -o [pool] -u [user] -p [pass] --set compac:clock=x0b83 1) bfgminer530 will not see the sticks on my old WinXP box. Neither starting bfg with them (or just 1) plugged in nor hot plugging while bfg is running wakes them up. The program just sits there and asks me to add hardware. 2) bfgminer530 on my Win7 box sees the sticks, however I get comms errors. Here is just 1 stick: 3) when I plug a 2nd stick in the errors happen twice as often: Any ideas what is happening in both cases?
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My 4 compacs showed up yesterday and I'm having some problems. First, no hub with bfgminer using .bat = bfgminer.exe -o [pool] -u [user] -p [pass] --set compac:clock=x0b83 1) bfgminer530 will not see the sticks on my old WinXP box. Neither starting bfg with them (or just 1) plugged in nor hot plugging while bfg is running wakes them up. The program just sits there and asks me to add hardware. 2) bfgminer530 on my Win7 box sees the sticks, however I get comms errors. Here is just 1 stick: 3) when I plug a 2nd stick in the errors happen twice as often: So I tried cgminer-gekko to see if I would have better luck. I cannot use cgminer on my Win7 box because zadig doesn't work on that machine. So on a powered hub with cgminer-gekko using .bat = cgminer.exe -o [pool] -u [user] -p [pass] --compac-freq 150 1) a single stick works perfectly, no errors 2) edit - new usb hub and ran 2 sticks on xp laptop just fine, old hub was crap, will update soon >2 sticks plug in a second stick and all goes to hell, LIBSUB_ERROR out the wazoo and both sticks only hash around 2GH. I didn't try more than 2 sticks.
Any ideas what's going on here? The errors on the Win7 box are very confusing, I did not expect any issues there. I'm thinking most of the fail on the XP machine is probably just the fact that my old WinXP box is old so I'm not too concerned there (gotta build a new computer one day...), but I can run 6 nanofury usb sticks on it at the same time no problem. In fact I can run the 6 nanofury sticks in one instance of cgminer and 1 compac stick in cgminer-gekko at the same time (pictured below), zero issues, so I'm at a loss why more than 1 compac grinds it to a halt. http://i60.tinypic.com/28vxerk.jpg
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All you lucky buggers getting your sticks! Can't wait until mine arrive!!! Mine came with yesterdays mail. So did mine, way sooner than I expected! Can't wait to get tweaking on them.
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The scary thing is, when you get to looking at civil asset forfeiture, they really don't need any reason to take your stuff, you do not need to be accused or convicted of a crime, and you have no recourse to get it back.
In fact they often just take your property without charging you with anything at all because charging you is more paperwork and it actually can make it even more difficult for you to get your stuff back since there is no criminal case attached to the forfeiture. This has been happening for years with medical cannabis dispensaries in California. The police bust in to a California law abiding business, take all the cannabis, money, computers, video surveillance gear, etc. etc., and then say have a nice day, we may file charges against you. Charges are never filed and all that stuff now belongs to the police. What a deal, no wonder they don't want to change it.
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Civil asset forfeiture is a hot topic right now, it's total bullshit. Unfortunately here in California we just had a promising reform bill shot down by misrepresentation from the law enforcement lobbies. Most of the California forfeit cases deal with cannabis cultivation. it is the advertising on the internet and the doing "business" with the general public that allows them to come in and seize your property.
The scary thing is, when you get to looking at civil asset forfeiture, they really don't need any reason to take your stuff, you do not need to be accused or convicted of a crime, and you have no recourse to get it back.
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If things are still a bit confusing, I would highly recommend sticking to some of the suggested hubs that people have already tested and are known to work well Thanks for the explanation, most of it got through my thick skull. You started to lose me with the components, but I think I get it. So upon further inquiries it appears that my hub is not going to be good for overclocking stick miners ( post). I'm going to pick up one of those usb testers and play around with this hub (afterall, playing around is most of the fun), but if I'm going to be running multiple sticks overclocked I'm going to have to look for new hardware.
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The USB 2.0 models of our hubs are not designed to run at 100% for extended periods of time, their voltage regulators will fail early due to thermal load problems. Pfft. Weak sauce. Kinda my thoughts, too, especially given how beefy they appear to be and how expensive they are. Oh well, live and learn.
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Bookmarking this thread, I'll be pointing one of my sticks here as soon as they show up. Looks like almost 400GH going, it's like an S3, not too shabby!
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What kind of power do those hubs put out on the ports? Looked at those before, but never could find the power output, so forgot about them.
I've sent them an inquiry, will share when I hear back. So they replied back to me and said "Maximum is 500ma" which I already knew is the max rating for USB 2.0, but I don't think it answers our question. A more complete answer from the CoolGear USB folk: The 2.0 model hubs are not designed to operate near their limits on all ports for extended time periods (thermal issues), whereas the 3.0 models can handle this fine. I've run some old block erupters on several models of our hubs for a few hours without issue, but I admit it was an educational exercise and I didn't try to overclock them or run for days/weeks.
The USB 2.0 models of our hubs are not designed to run at 100% for extended periods of time, their voltage regulators will fail early due to thermal load problems.
2.5W x 7 ports = 17.5W total draw. The switching regulators used in the hub for voltage conversion are about 85% efficient, which means you need about 21W (17.5 / 0.85) or so on the input side, plus another 2W for the hub itself. Call it 24W input just to be safe. 24W / 12V = 2A. You need 2A from your power supply at 12V. I bought this hub originally because of the chip it uses inside, it was supposed to help with running more than one U3 at the same time, which it didn't. I think I'll play around with it a bit, but it's not looking like it's going to be suitable for 4 compac sticks if I want to do any overclocking.
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Download from a link in the OP and you should be ok. You can verify the sig and pgp key if you are still worried after the download, or you can compile your own copy.
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Thanks for accepting me, new rules noted. any thread with QS in the subject.
What is QS?
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Any my high 5 percentage was looking so good for so long, looks like we'll have a sub-5% diff change this go which is much less that we all thought at points during this adjustment period.
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numbers are pretty good for 3 sticks at freq 331 should about 51gh and is around 48gh for overnight I am fine with this
So 3 compacs OC'd equals roughly a U3, that's pretty cool. Much less power use, much less hardware problems, and made by a member of our community, not some Chinese mining conglomerate. Can't wait for my 4 to arrive!
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Finished resyncing the blockchain (again...) and my payment from my previous signature campaign came in. I also earn a few thousand satoshi every day in my HaoBTC investment account. It used to earn more when I had more deposited, but I spent it on some new stick miners for fun.
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So how do we get one of those fancy sticker? wow that amazing idea to give moon cakes,, but 50 BTC is'nt a smalla amount, maybe i wil use it some btc im interesting to try your wallet It's not a wallet, it's more like a savings account. You deposit btc to your HaoBTC account from one of your wallets and watch the bitcoins roll in! I only have a little in my account at the moment, but it's like free microearnings the way I look at it, until I deposit more.
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Ok so I had the "bit" part correct. Bitfury/Bitminter. Close enough for govt work You led with the "bit", and followed with much fury - I'll give that one to you, but only because you're so generous.
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The power going into the hub is 12V at up to 5A.
But that gets regulated internally to 5V, right? I think that's what you wrote in response to me in your stick thread. I guess that's one disconnect I'm struggling with. Internal ratings, external rating, usb port ratings... Were those numbers (12V @ 5A) determined from manufacturer literature or experimentally? If every hub regulated voltage down internally to 5V where do the differences between hubs come into play? Most folks will be running beefy hubs, or using Y cables to pull power from two ports at the same time for one stick.
Here's where I get lost. What makes a hub "beefy"? This is directly related my questioning above. Would a single usb 3.0 port be essentially equivalent to a y cable on two 2.0 ports?
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When you are having to restart is it just restarting the cgminer? Or do you physically have to power the U3's?
I'm hoping the first if so I might be able to write a batch file for it. If have to physically power the U3's the batch file would do no good.
You have to physically de-power the U3 (both usb and 12V). Unplug, count to 5, plug back in. Sometime I had to do that more than once to get them going again.
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