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what do you think about adding a field about the payout-method used?
and i would love to see standardized uris too.
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hi,
if you sent me 75BTC now you'll get 100btc as soon as bitcoinica/intersango/whoever pays back his customers.
i have a german domain k1024.de which points to my real name and address. if you need any other proof of identity please send me a pm.
regards
flower
EDIT: offer has changed... i only want 75btc now (was 80btc)
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Works for me... And is the same IP as in like above. NOW it does work for me too |
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Apologies for locking the topic. I've been reading/replying on my phone and must have accidentally fat fingered it. I'm still thinking through the implications of Mike's last post.
me thinks the problem is that there is no way to stop a miner which replaces a memory pool transaction with another one which offers a higher fee. afaik only transactions in a block (older is better) are safed. all other ones are just maybe's. but if only a few miners do this (transaction replacement) there is no use at all. you can't be sure that a zero-conf transaction don't get replaced AND you dont have the benefit of nlocktime and transaction replacements. so i vote for "allow replacing of zero-conf transactions" so it would be possible to build escrow services around it. |
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So some unsolicited user sending you an email causes you to believe everything contained therein? BRB, need to send some more 419 emails  lol the question is: where did they got my email from (ok thats not that hard): but how did they know i have a login there? maybe its just a pissed employee Nope, 69.194.161.228 is a SolarVPS set up to look like an okpay mail server. Probably your email got guessed by the usual spamming programs, did you see that it was addresses to "AOL User"? ok thanks  i would be interested if someone got that mail and does not have an okpay account. this would prove it. |
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So some unsolicited user sending you an email causes you to believe everything contained therein? BRB, need to send some more 419 emails lol the question is: where did they got my email from (ok thats not that hard): but how did they know i have a login there? maybe its just a pissed employee |
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EDIT: it seems someone just want to discredit okpayhi, i just got a very interesting mail i used opkay once but stopped it as they dont really offer any benefit for me. but i think its funny that this mail is sent from okpay support (ok its probably faked) EDIT: i forgot to obfuscate my email Return-path: <support@okpay.com>
Envelope-to: XXXXXXXX@k1024.de
Delivery-date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 15:38:08 +0200
Received: from [69.194.161.228] (helo=okpay.com)
by www158.your-server.de with smtp (Exim 4.74)
(envelope-from <support@okpay.com>)
id 1SHxkE-0006qy-Cd
for XXXXXXXX@k1024.de; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 15:38:08 +0200
Message-ID: <8670EBBC.3527E3CC@okpay.com>
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 20:17:56 +0700
Reply-To: "OKPAY" <support@okpay.com>
From: "OKPAY" <support@okpay.com>
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-GB; rv:1.8.1.14) Gecko/20080421 Thunderbird/2.0.0.14
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: "AOL Users" <XXXXXX@k1024.de>
Subject: OKPAY is SCAM!
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Virus-Scanned: Clear (ClamAV 0.97.3/14770/Wed Apr 11 00:28:18 2012)
X-Spam-Score: 1.3 (+)
Delivered-To: XXXXXXXX@k1024.de
Hello,
I want to warn you that OKPay is scam payment processor.
They were fine while I was making small transfers, but as soon as my
balance reached 11000 USD, they blocked it.
And it's blocked since August last year.
Stay away from OKPAY!
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The squeaky wheel gets the grease. I hope for Kluge not everyone asks for their dividends they did not receive.
me does not ask for dividens which i did not received i sold all my tygrr-banks for new tygrr-bot ones. but i am fine... i dont think we should blame goat for nefarios fault. |
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Anyone knows this? thank you.
Edit. 0.5BTC bounty.
LOL btw i think goat is more trustfull than nefario. everybody should think BEFORE he gives money to anybody else. |
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I'm happy that Mt. Gox has done some serious jobs to protect the benefits of their partners, and risk being misunderstood. They have been actively contacting us throughout the issue.
I apologize for those who accounts were placed on hold for AML because of their protection. We should have told them earlier our attitude that consumers and merchants shouldn't be responsible for tainted coins. We even accept the tainted coins ourselves.
At the same time, I really appreciate what Mt. Gox team has done.
just WOW and +1 |
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I am strictly against enforcing fees at this point.
Too early, way way too early, we should focus on to get people knowing and joining bitcoin first. Enforcing fees, now, would give a few bitcents per block only, almost nothing. It would harm Bitcoin, because then its "just another obscure internet payment system where someone earns money with my transfers".
I find the plan to have enforced fees more dangerous than the deepbit situation. And would abandon p2pool, and any other pool who enforces fees. If all other pools enforced fees I would rather join deepbit. If all pools enforce fees I would consider selling my hardware, buying Bitcoin, bury them in an offline wallet, and go along to other hobbies for the next few years.
Ente
+1 (except for the "join deepbit"-part) p2pool cannot enforce fees. every miner in p2pool decides for himself what transaction he includes in his blocks. |
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+1
does this mean that you lock an account as soon as his address has touched a fraudluent address?
at any depth?
does this mean that my coins are returned to the real owner? all? how much of them?.
i am fine that you dont decide this yourself and that you follow the law. but i'd suggest you state your position on your site. including the way you determine a "to-be-locked"-addresses and what happens to the coins itself.
thanks for your answer
We do not lock an account because of tainted coins, however we may require an ID. We may lock an account only if we have evidence the account owner is actually behind the theft, or if law enforcement have reached that conclusion and gets a court to order us to lock the account. The coins may be returned to the real owner only if we actually caught and locked an account. If you are not the thief and act without knowledge that the coins you have are stolen, then you are "not wrong" (the place where you got the coins from is, and we may ask you where you transferred those coins from so the law enforcement can continue their investigation). So far we have only been able to lock coins once (in 3 cases), and only a part. We cannot decide to return the coins to the original owner, a court has to decide this for us. I'll see so we publish whatever we can publish on this next week. thank you very much for this explanation |
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please define term "tainted coin" exactly!
i would love to have a way to check any deposit beforehand.
"Tainted" means we have received a request for investigation from the Japanese law enforcement (either the CyberPolice, or an international investigation backed by a court). In some cases we may cooperate with other law enforcement around the world on a case by case basis. As of today there is only one active case, and in the past 12 months, we have marked some bitcoins on only 3 occasions. +1 does this mean that you lock an account as soon as his address has touched a fraudluent address? at any depth? does this mean that my coins are returned to the real owner? all? how much of them?. i am fine that you dont decide this yourself and that you follow the law. but i'd suggest you state your position on your site. including the way you determine a "to-be-locked"-addresses and what happens to the coins itself. thanks for your answer |
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Dear Mt.Gox,
why do you allow unverified people to trade money for BTC, if you're trying to help the cops with "tainted" coins? I think there are a lot of "tainted" coins....
There are not many tainted coins. Except during big events such as the Linode hack, we rarely see any tainted coin hit us at all. please define term "tainted coin" exactly! i would love to have a way to check any deposit beforehand. |
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what about this variation:
- 5% fee on smallest input
- 0.001btc per input if there are more than two inputs.
this would also give an incentive for small transactions (in bytes) which is good for the network
So if (to use the same example above) I am paying 1 BTC from 100 BTC input I pay 5BTC in fees to pay you 1 BTC? Yeah that is going to be popular. just corrected it... please replace input with output |
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what about this variation:
- 5% fee on smallest output
- 0.001btc per outputif there are more than two output.
this would also give an incentive for small transactions (in bytes) which is good for the network
edit: replaces input with output
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abcpool is a proxy pool.
which means that they send your shares to another pool for max profit (just do a forum search for pool hoppers)
as they only relay shares they don't find their own blocks.
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@flower1024
Are you mining Bitcoin or Litecoin? (see below)
still Litecoin |
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