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1721  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: 2016 Summer Olympics - Bitcoin Betting on: July 16, 2016, 06:57:12 PM
anyone know of the best bitcoin sites for betting on the olympics?
I know nitro will have some but like with esports im looking for more
outs so any good books that anyone knows would be appreciated

I'm not sure who will have the Olympics but here are the books.

"A" rated books
nitrogensports.eu A+ (2012)

"B"rated books
betcoinsports.com B+ (2013)
jetwin.ps B+ (2013)
bitcoinrush.io B (2013)

"C" rated books)
betbtc.co C+(2014)
cloudbet.com C (2013)
fairlay.com C (2014)
betmoose.com C- (2014)
predictious.com C- (2013)


"D" rated books
anonibet.com/  D+ (2011)
directbet.eu/ D- (2014)


"F" rated books
Ball2Win F ..........................accepting deposits. They are under the same license as "F" book gobetgo
BetCas F ............................accepting deposits but they have confiscated funds from multiple players.
BTCBonusBook (2015).......... accepting deposits with no payout history.
Casinoco (2015)...................accepting deposits but not paying out all players.
Coindrafts F (2014)
Webetcoins F (2014
Bitbm F .............................accepting deposits but not paying out all players.
Bitcoinsport F
Bitcoinlivebets F
Coinbet F
Gobetgo F (2013)
Sportbet.im F
StakeBTC F
Blockbet F
Bitbook F

NR
2bet.io (2016)
betinbtc.com
BetVIP - closed 6/12/15
bitcasino.io/sportsbook
coinbet24.com
lunarbets.eu
sportsbet.io (2016)




Wow very impressive ! A nice list , so long. I can't seem to find any for the Olympics . If someone could help that would be great ! Also are there bets for every sport ? How would it work for say the 400m ? Or 100m sprint ? Will be fun to watch and root on your bet ^^

Nitrogen under "Specials" has Olympic gold medals by country but I don't see anything with individual events. Just took a quick glance and I didn't see much else.
1722  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Sportsbooks 101 on: July 13, 2016, 12:59:42 PM
Is there a trusted site for BTC book ratings? Sort of like a Covers (realize they are not perfect but highly regarded by many) or are there just user ratings? I want to try out some new books. Thanks.

"A" rated books
nitrogensports.eu A+ (2012)

"B"rated books
betcoinsports.com B+ (2013)
jetwin.ps B+ (2013)
bitcoinrush.io B (2013)

"C" rated books)
betbtc.co C+(2014)
cloudbet.com C (2013)
fairlay.com C (2014)
betmoose.com C- (2014)
predictious.com C- (2013)


"D" rated books
anonibet.com/  D+ (2011)
directbet.eu/ D- (2014)


"F" rated books
Ball2Win F ..........................accepting deposits. They are under the same license as "F" book gobetgo
BetCas F ............................accepting deposits but they have confiscated funds from multiple players.
BTCBonusBook (2015).......... accepting deposits with no payout history.
Casinoco (2015)...................accepting deposits but not paying out all players.
Coindrafts F (2014)
Webetcoins F (2014
Bitbm F .............................accepting deposits but not paying out all players.
Bitcoinsport F
Bitcoinlivebets F
Coinbet F
Gobetgo F (2013)
Sportbet.im F
StakeBTC F
Blockbet F
Bitbook F

NR
2bet.io (2016)
betinbtc.com
BetVIP - closed 6/12/15
bitcasino.io/sportsbook
coinbet24.com
lunarbets.eu
sportsbet.io (2016)
1723  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: 2016 Summer Olympics - Bitcoin Betting on: July 12, 2016, 05:46:11 AM
Nice list but seems not updated
Anything with more brands is available ?

It should be updated. Let me know if you find more. The "NR" books haven't been rated yet. The agents are excluded as well as books such as Vitalbet that accept fiat currencies. There are a couple of small ones that aren't included that solely take esports or are limited to just one sport.

NR

2bet.io (2016)
betinbtc.com
bitcasino.io/sportsbook
coinbet24.com
lunarbets.eu
sportsbet.io (2016)
1724  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: July 12, 2016, 05:14:56 AM
Update

1725  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: 2016 Summer Olympics - Bitcoin Betting on: July 12, 2016, 05:08:07 AM
anyone know of the best bitcoin sites for betting on the olympics?
I know nitro will have some but like with esports im looking for more
outs so any good books that anyone knows would be appreciated

I'm not sure who will have the Olympics but here are the books.

"A" rated books
nitrogensports.eu A+ (2012)

"B"rated books
betcoinsports.com B+ (2013)
jetwin.ps B+ (2013)
bitcoinrush.io B (2013)

"C" rated books)
betbtc.co C+(2014)
cloudbet.com C (2013)
fairlay.com C (2014)
betmoose.com C- (2014)
predictious.com C- (2013)


"D" rated books
anonibet.com/  D+ (2011)
directbet.eu/ D- (2013)


"F" rated books
Ball2Win F ..........................accepting deposits. They are under the same license as "F" book gobetgo
BetCas F ............................accepting deposits but they have confiscated funds from multiple players.
BTCBonusBook (2015).......... accepting deposits with no payout history.
Casinoco (2015)...................accepting deposits but not paying out all players.
Coindrafts F (2014)
Webetcoins F (2014
Bitbm F .............................accepting deposits but not paying out all players.
Bitcoinsport F
Bitcoinlivebets F
Coinbet F
Gobetgo F (2013)
Sportbet.im F
StakeBTC F
Blockbet F
Bitbook F

NR
2bet.io (2016)
betinbtc.com
BetVIP - closed 6/12/15
bitcasino.io/sportsbook
coinbet24.com
lunarbets.eu
sportsbet.io (2016)



just wanna thank you sir for sharing this info i'm also waiting for this olympics and i want to know as well where to place or to see those incoming events that will be played in rio so i'm very thankful for you sir for sharing this inputs and for the OP to open this thread i will bookmarked now those site and choose each of them who will give much better odd. good luck
Thanks and good luck with your Olympics betting.
1726  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: 2016 Summer Olympics - Bitcoin Betting on: July 12, 2016, 04:43:26 AM
anyone know of the best bitcoin sites for betting on the olympics?
I know nitro will have some but like with esports im looking for more
outs so any good books that anyone knows would be appreciated

I'm not sure who will have the Olympics but here are the books.

"A" rated books
nitrogensports.eu A+ (2012)

"B"rated books
betcoinsports.com B+ (2013)
jetwin.ps B+ (2013)
bitcoinrush.io B (2013)

"C" rated books)
betbtc.co C+(2014)
cloudbet.com C (2013)
fairlay.com C (2014)
betmoose.com C- (2014)
predictious.com C- (2013)


"D" rated books
anonibet.com/  D+ (2011)
directbet.eu/ D- (2014)


"F" rated books
Ball2Win F ..........................accepting deposits. They are under the same license as "F" book gobetgo
BetCas F ............................accepting deposits but they have confiscated funds from multiple players.
BTCBonusBook (2015).......... accepting deposits with no payout history.
Casinoco (2015)...................accepting deposits but not paying out all players.
Coindrafts F (2014)
Webetcoins F (2014
Bitbm F .............................accepting deposits but not paying out all players.
Bitcoinsport F
Bitcoinlivebets F
Coinbet F
Gobetgo F (2013)
Sportbet.im F
StakeBTC F
Blockbet F
Bitbook F

NR
2bet.io (2016)
betinbtc.com
BetVIP - closed 6/12/15
bitcasino.io/sportsbook
coinbet24.com
lunarbets.eu
sportsbet.io (2016)


1727  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: July 11, 2016, 05:53:12 AM
Be very careful with sportsbet.io

Quote
SportsBet.io + BitCasino.io
sportsbet1) mBetSolutions N.V., a shell company incorporated in Curacao, is operator of the websites www.sportsbet.io and www.bitcasino.io. Managing Director of mBetSolutions N.V. is Timothy John Heath.

Timothy John Heath was also the Managing Director of Muchos Poker – Muchos Gaming N.V., also incorporated in Curacao. Muchos Poker embezzled player deposits and closed business owing money to customers, what you can read here.

2) sportsbet.io and bitcasino.io have a worthless Curacao eGaming license 1668/JAZ (curacao-egaming.com), with no control about finances or profitability of the licensee. Gambling companies usually also have no bank accounts/financial transactions in Curacao.

3) Too good to be true promotions without any evidence of the financial status of the company. Lock Poker had also amazing promotions with over 100% rakeback and the worthless 1668/JAZ Curacao eGaming license.

Good luck!

Updated: 3. July 2016 — 14:51
Tags: bitcasino.io, muchos poker, sportsbet.io, timothy john heath
http://game-protect.com/sportsbet-bitcasino-io/
1728  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: July 08, 2016, 01:34:12 AM
In response to the previous comment,sportsbet.io should be ranked as F.Check out their official thread,running a fake promo lottery with terrible odds and false promotions to attract attention.To add,they're run by the same agencies running most of the mentioned above D rated websites.People are simply enjoying the few satoshi's paid by the agency to attract more attention....................

Things do seem fishy. They opened June 1st, claim to have 6.734 customers and to have given away $40,000 in raffles.

Do you have anymore information as far as previous agencies?
1729  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: July 07, 2016, 08:12:34 PM
I forget the correct amount of times this has happened, and will go back and count if contested by DirectBet. It may have happened 50 times in the past and may happen again. A bet should be confirmed or rejected prior to the start of a game or prior to a score.
1730  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: July 07, 2016, 08:07:03 PM
Just to be clear, I am saying this is a grey area because 100 ETH was confirmed at 3.32

The last 50 ETH was just stuck.. NO WHERE, not confirmed, or anything.

They sent me an email 4 hours later, after 2 events won, and the 3rd in a winning state, that there was a bug and they will be refunding me the last 50 ETH.

I understand what you're saying, and yes, I believe that the bet should be honored considering the circumstances.

If you believe that you shouldn't receive your money or that DirectBet has a choice in not paying you, then I'll back off and it won't be held against DirectBet in this thread.

The ticket says the bet was confirmed. It's your call.

Right, I'm trying to clarify here.  I DO believe that I should receive the 50 ETH parlay winnings from them.

They paid out BOTH confirmed 50 ETH legs of this bet (100 ETH x 3.32) ...

The last 50 ETH was in limbo.  No where.  Not confirmed, just no where.  Am I making sense?  I sent 50 ETH and it just sat in their wallet and didn't hit my bet.  It was sent 1 minute apart from the others expecting to go total 150 ETH on the bet.  This is because of the 50 ETH limit on some of these.



I understand. This has happened with DirectBet many times in the past with bitcoins, not ether. Please just tell me if you should be paid or shouldn't. If you say there is a grey area, then it will be disregarded as far as this thread and the case closed.
1731  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: July 07, 2016, 08:01:44 PM
Just to be clear, I am saying this is a grey area because 100 ETH was confirmed at 3.32

The last 50 ETH was just stuck.. NO WHERE, not confirmed, or anything.

They sent me an email 4 hours later, after 2 events won, and the 3rd in a winning state, that there was a bug and they will be refunding me the last 50 ETH.

I understand what you're saying, and yes, I believe that the bet should be honored considering the circumstances.

If you believe that you shouldn't receive your money and that DirectBet has a choice in not paying you, then I'll back off and it won't be held against DirectBet in this thread.

The ticket says the bet was confirmed, it wasn't rejected. It's your call.
1732  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: July 07, 2016, 07:57:27 PM
In response to the previous comment,sportsbet.io should be ranked as F.Check out their official thread,running a fake promo lottery with terrible odds and false promotions to attract attention.To add,they're run by the same agencies running most of the mentioned above D rated websites.People are simply enjoying the few satoshi's paid by the agency to attract more attention.To be honest,not sure why you have rated directbet.eu as bad,they're the best bitcoin based sports betting sites ever.Period.

Thanks for the info on sportsbet.io and it will be looked into.

With DirectBet, the player made a 50 ETH parlay bet at "best available odds". The bet was received and confirmed at odds of 3.32. The bet won and DirectBet didn't pay the winnings.




I would like to clarify, as I believe my circumstance is a pretty grey area.  However, I still feel that they SHOULD pay.

DirectBet has always paid me ALL confirmed bets/odds.  This specific instance went as follows:

  • I sent 3 x 50 ETH chunks to the bet ID
  • First two got confirmed no problem
  • Last transaction was in limbo for hours.  After my 2 events won, I finally got a response to multiple e-mails stating that there was an error on their side that didn't confirm the odds in the book
  • I believe they should pay out and honor the bet on the last 50 ETH because the parlay was in a winning state.  My logic is that if I had sent another 50 ETH while the 50 ETH was in limbo, it's possible that I could over extend my risk tolerance and all 200 ETH could be confirmed minutes before the first game started.  In this case, DirectBet would tell me that I'm shit out of luck.  Once an event starts, then you're SOL

I would like to clarify that I've wagered a LOT of money at DirectBet at this point.  They've been slow to respond.  But never NOT pay out CONFIRMED winnings.

Peeps Place, as much as I hate to say it, and as much as I truly believe they should pay out the winnings on my parlay because the 50 ETH was in limbo and in their hands, I think we should make sure that people know the truth and have all of the facts.

DirectBet, according to THEIR own rules, did no wrong.  But, this is really a grey area and puts the bettor (me) at risk when this happens.  The system is flawed because of the blockchain use IMO...



I want the truth to come out on both sides. DirectBet has been invited to join the thread.

I looked into the case and you made a bet at best odds. DirectBet confirmed the bet and gave you odds of 3.32. I don't see this as being a grey area.

If this case was taken to an arbitrator that understood gambling, I believe 100% that they would rule in your favor. All that's needed is the confirmed ticket.

You are a very honest guy. You sent an email to DirectBet one hour before the start of the first game. What DirectBet did is free roll you. Unscrupulous books will do this.
1733  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: July 07, 2016, 05:16:32 PM
In response to the previous comment,sportsbet.io should be ranked as F.Check out their official thread,running a fake promo lottery with terrible odds and false promotions to attract attention.To add,they're run by the same agencies running most of the mentioned above D rated websites.People are simply enjoying the few satoshi's paid by the agency to attract more attention.To be honest,not sure why you have rated directbet.eu as bad,they're the best bitcoin based sports betting sites ever.Period.

Thanks for the info on sportsbet.io and it will be looked into.

With DirectBet, the player made a 50 ETH parlay bet at "best available odds". The bet was received and confirmed at odds of 3.32. The bet won and DirectBet didn't pay the winnings.


1734  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: July 07, 2016, 05:02:18 PM
"A" rated books
nitrogensports.eu A+ (2012)

"B"rated books
betcoinsports.com B+ (2013)
jetwin.ps B+ (2013)
bitcoinrush.io B (2013)

"C" rated books)
betbtc.co C+(2014)
cloudbet.com C (2013)
fairlay.com C (2014)
betmoose.com C- (2014)
predictious.com C- (2013)


"D" rated books
anonibet.com/  D+ (2011)
directbet.eu/ D- (2013)


"F" rated books
Ball2Win F ..........................accepting deposits. They are under the same license as "F" book gobetgo
BetCas F ............................accepting deposits but they have confiscated funds from multiple players.
BTCBonusBook (2015).......... accepting deposits with no payout history.
Casinoco (2015)...................accepting deposits but not paying out all players.
Coindrafts F (2014)
Webetcoins F (2014
Bitbm F .............................accepting deposits but not paying out all players.
Bitcoinsport F
Bitcoinlivebets F
Coinbet F
Gobetgo F (2013)
Sportbet.im F
StakeBTC F
Blockbet F
Bitbook F

NR
2bet.io (2016)
betinbtc.com
BetVIP - closed 6/12/15
bitcasino.io/sportsbook
coinbet24.com
lunarbets.eu
sportsbet.io (2016)
1735  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: July 07, 2016, 02:44:28 AM
You've warned DirectBet a few times about their vulnerability and that haven't made any changes yet.

It makes it even more frustrating to see Betcoin consistently ranked high despite mountains of evidence proving how unethical they are.

And no, just because their biggest scandals have involved stealing from/fucking those who play poker or casino games and this thread is for sports bettors is no excuse to look the other way.  

It's like a parent hiring a criminal who has been convicted of kidnapping little girls to babysit their son.  He hasn't kidnapped any little boys though, right?

I've read many of your posts on poker and casinos. You've given great insight. I don't understand enough about casinos and poker rooms to come to any conclusions.

This thread only pertains to sportsbooks and it was stated at the beginning.
1736  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: July 07, 2016, 02:10:34 AM
The situation does demonstrate why Directbet tried so hard to get hungerstyle's true identity.

If hungerstyle hadn't submitted an altered ID, Directbet could now ask rangernation for proof of identity and if they are correct  prove he is hungerstyle.
[Granted if they are correct, rangernation (hungerstyle) could also attempt to offer fake id, but it would or might help to make their case if they had real ID of hungerstyle].

It's literally impossible for DirectBet to obtain the identity of an anonymous user and know with 100% certainty it's person who placed the bet.

I hate the fact that this guy is obv guilty but he should be paid anyway.

DirectBet has 3 options:

Pay all double spend scammers and never seize funds of innocent players.

Seize scammers funds and possibly innocent users funds on occasion.

Fix their exploitable sportsbook.

You've warned DirectBet a few times about their vulnerability and they haven't made any changes yet.
1737  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: July 07, 2016, 01:49:30 AM
To clarify the parlay wager. The bet was confirmed at odds of 3.32 with a result of won as shown on the ticket.

The player made the bet at best available odds on receipt and DirectBet gave the player confirmed odds: 3.32.

DirectBet refused to pay out the winnings.
1738  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: July 07, 2016, 01:30:19 AM
DirectBet lowered to "D-"

Player placed a 3 team parlay bet of 50 ETH at odds of 3.32. The bet was placed approximately 1 hour and 20 minutes prior to the start of the first game. After no confirmations, the player sent an email to DirectBet approximately 1 hour prior to the start of the first game.

After the first 2 games of the parlay won and the third game was winning, DirectBet sent an email stating that the bet would be refunded.

The ticket shows that the bet was confirmed at odds of 3.32.






There is a second case where ragernation placed a bet of 9.049 BTC. The bet was rejected by DirectBet. DirectBet did not refund the 9.049 BTC to ragernation.  DirectBet claimed that ragernation made another bet with a double spend and they have the right to confiscate 9.049 BTC. ragernation denies making the second bet and DirectBet has no evidence showing that ragernation did indeed make the second bet.



1739  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: July 06, 2016, 02:58:40 PM
RobinH explaining the rangernation case where a deposit was confiscated.

Quote
This is how I understand it.....

directbet.eu rejected a bet because of low fees, then confisticated the wager instead of refunding it. Bet details:
https://www.directbet.eu/BetStatus.cshtml?BetID=1J48n6KMDKutNcb68ywoHgfrZVkD28Vrfk

They are claiming ragernation is responsible for a successful double spend bet on their platform. Bet details; https://directbet.eu/BetStatus.cshtml?BetID=1JtH9TefRKwB9W71qeD2fAGGCp27PtWnnn

So they are  keeping the wager from the rejected bet as part payment for the double-spend bet.

ragernation is denying any knowledge of the double-spend bet. And is demanding a refund from directbet.eu and rightly so, if he/she has nothing to do with the double spend bet in question.

directbet.eu are also claiming that ragernation and hungerstyle are one and the same. An accusation ragernation vehemently denies, albeit incoherently.

If directbet.eu has sufficient proof that hungerstyle and ragernation is the same person, and is responsible for the double-spend. Then they are within their rights to keep the funds. Otherwise they should refund ragernation immediately.

I hate to say I told you so directbet.eu, but this will keep happening until you fix your exploitable book.


9.049 BTC deposit confiscated.

1740  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: July 06, 2016, 02:54:44 AM
DirectBet is temporarily taken off the rating's guide.
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