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1761  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Progressive principles all lies on: July 01, 2014, 07:51:28 PM
I have just a few basic issues that I consider to be deal killers for progressives. They are all logic fails that expose progressives as a group of people whose tenets are built on lies preached as truth by intellectual priests and control mongers.

1. Death penalty is not a deterrent. We put armed prison guards in towers for a reason. The death penalty is an obvious deterrent. Its implementation and other cultural factors like "honor killings", the war on drugs, poverty are impossible to factor out of statistics, but don't try and convince anyone the death penalty is not a deterrent. A world filled with murder says otherwise. The argument enrages me. Get this though, I don't believe in the death penalty 99% of the time. I don't think we have high enough standards of evidence. But don't make me spew stupid arguments, convince me otherwise.


Maybe it is a deterrent and maybe it isn't. But there is a big difference between the guy in the watchtower with a gun and the vague possibility that committing murder might cost your life in the end. In order for it to be a deterrent it would have to be factor in preventing someone from doing something that often isn't rational in the first place. It may be a minor deterrent, but it's certainly not at the front of peoples mind when they're murdering or planning to murder.

The death penalty most certainly can be on someone's mind I think Saudi Arabia is a good example as you can be executed for a lot of things (and they have a long history of using the death penalty to immediately change public behavior, see recent news on drifting in Saudi Arabia)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2164979/Saudi-court-sentences-joyrider-death-beheading-killing-people-drifting-car-stunt.html

However, the more you amp up the threat of death the more inhumane the punishment becomes, see Saudi Arabia.

I am ok voting down the death penalty for reasons like it is too costly to implement, the risk of killing someone innocent is too great, and any of a number of other reasons. But don't tell me it is not a deterrent.

I didn't say that it's not a deterrent, but that it's a minor one at best. Most people committing murders aren't thinking rationally. There may be times where someone who was conspiring to commit a murder decided against it because of fear of being put to death. But that has to be pretty rare.

1762  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Where to buy software with BTC? on: June 28, 2014, 09:57:00 PM
Subscription service? It says "Access Denied" ?

Well I tried  Huh


I can access the above tigerdirect link without problem. I have completely no clue why you get blocked from it...


Many countries are blocked from viewing the site at all. I get the same message.

There are quite a few retail stores in the US that block international web traffic surprisingly.
1763  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How some services offer Bitcoin against credit card ? on: June 28, 2014, 09:55:03 PM
These sites must estimate the percentage of reversals they'll have.

Then add a premium price greater than that percentage.


Right. They do all the math and figure out the averages and what price they can sell the btc at and make profit. They just calculate the risk vs reward and deal with the chargebacks.

I wonder how big the market is for legitimate bitcoin buyers who purchase with their credit cards.
1764  Other / Off-topic / Re: FIFA World Cup 2014!!! on: June 28, 2014, 09:52:01 PM
Is Columbia generally considered better than Chile or not?

Who is considered the 3rd best South American team behind Brazil and Argentina? Not FIFA rankings, but real generally accepted rankings based on who's better.
1765  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Doge game over? on: June 28, 2014, 09:49:21 PM
Also that there is no coin limit drives price down alot.

Yeah, even if the supply inflation at the current time isn't drastically different than some other cryptos just the psychological impact of unlimited coins is something that I believe turns people off.
1766  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Litecoin is officially dead on: June 28, 2014, 09:47:13 PM
I remember koolio bragging on btc-e about waiting until Litecoin hit $100 to buy a Lamborghini lol

Litecoin's all time high was $50, and then it retreated rather quickly to $30, then to $10, now its $8 and dropping 3% everyday.

To compare, even coins with a tiny bit of innovation have surpassed Litecoin, including absolute copy/paste coins like Maxcoin had an all time high of $40 and Auroracoin had an all time high of $90, almost twice Litecoin's ATH.

What I find interesting too is the lack of Litecoin evangelism that goes on now. There's very little positive sentiment or even defending Litecoin anymore. Not sure why. It's such a waste. I can't get over it. It's like the Litecoin community is just putting their fingers in their ears and going "la la la, we have a big market cap, la la la, I can't hear you" while everyone else is trying to wake them up.
1767  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Dogecoin is the OWS of coins.... on: June 28, 2014, 09:42:08 PM
I see the clean folks of the Tea Party as Bitcoin and Dogecoin is the Occupy Wall St. of coins.

Thoughts?

dogecoin is dead, they have no meaning..

this could be said about every single alt coin released though.

How so? There are tons of altcoins that offer innovative technology. How does new tech have no meaning?

I find it relevant that there are coins for every community, innovative technology is not even necessary.
For exemple, someone who sees value in cryptocurrencies and who has a mindset more inclined towards socialism might not want to buy Bitcoins and thus give power to the libertarian early-holders by doing so.

I agree. And I expect in the future we will see much more in the way of currencies based upon different political ideals. And definitely not just libertarian ones either. There's lots of room in the world for different currencies and different ideologies.
1768  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MIN] Minerals - POS. Fair Distribution Cryptocurrency on: June 28, 2014, 09:39:14 PM

you missed it.. happened a couple days ago. trying to get some more minerals at 20k but i feel like i will be unsuccessful in this venture lol

Did I miss something?!
1769  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Germany sacks Verizon over NSA spying on: June 28, 2014, 09:38:10 PM
There's definitely a market that needs to be fed in terms of offering suped up/encrypted phones that have a normal price range. I'm sure there's some BTC startup thinking about such a service.

I know there is an altcoin right now that is working on integration encrypted calling/video calling in to it's wallet. I know that's not the same as an encrypted phone, but with the way phones are going these days if you can get a secure open source phone from mozilla or something and run it as an app that is better than nothing, no?
1770  Economy / Speculation / Re: What if the SR coins sell for $150-$200 over current market value? on: June 28, 2014, 09:36:25 PM
Will we ever know the price those coins were sold for? Or is it confidential?

It seems we'll never know, that's too bad.


Even if we don't find out the sale price of the coins, we're pretty likely to get info on what some of the failed bids were.  So worst case, we know the amount that was not high enough for the coins to go for, and can deduce from there.

Right. There will definitely be a flood of information coming out after the auction ends. There is no way all of those people are going to stay silent about the process or what bids did not win.
1771  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: ARG Puzzle with 3.53 BTC Private Key Prize***** on: June 28, 2014, 09:34:59 PM
Just a question.. Is it possible to create a valid priv-key from collecting some random data?

It is possible to generate private key out of any data, even out of unreadable binary blob. Private key is by common agreement just the result of sha256() function of that data.

Great, thanks. I'm learning right now.

Me too. I wasn't aware of that. Interesting how much you can pick up from threads like these where everyone is just spilling their brains.
1772  Other / Politics & Society / Re: ICLOAK ™ Stik - Easy, Powerful, Online Privacy for YOU - Kickstarter on: June 28, 2014, 09:31:10 PM
This seems like it could be pretty good for the average person. I wonder how much demand there actually is from regular people to protect their privacy...

All in all it's a good idea and I hope it works out.
1773  Other / Off-topic / Re: How to get fancy addresses? on: June 28, 2014, 09:28:02 PM
What is the longest vanity address ever created in bitcoin thus far?

is it 8 characters? If 7 can take days...
1774  Other / Off-topic / Re: After reading Eye of the World by Robert Jordan... on: June 28, 2014, 09:26:09 PM
It's been a while since I've read that book. But yes it is olympic sized, and Egwene turns out to be a gold medalist swimmer. While Rand cheers her on from the side lines.
1775  Other / Off-topic / Re: Optimal Captcha on: June 28, 2014, 09:24:07 PM
Solvemedia  is pretty decent. You can do secure captchas or profitable ones. Personally, I'd like to see the secure ones used.

http://solvemedia.com/publishers/captcha-type-in

I don't understand how those solvemedia ones aren't easily breakable by bots. They don't seem to do much. They are extremely easy to solve and I can't see how they pose a challenge for someone who wanted to break them.
1776  Other / Off-topic / Re: Ubuntu the Worst OS I Hath Ever Used In My Life on: June 28, 2014, 09:22:29 PM
Ubuntu jumped the shark a few years ago, Linux mint would probably serve you far better.

I like linux mint a lot better too. I think a lot of people given the two side by side would choose mint. I'm not so sure I like the direction Ubuntu has gone with Unity. Maybe for a tablet or something...
1777  Other / Off-topic / Re: What do you think about Rainmeeter - AWESOME SKIN for Windows on: June 28, 2014, 09:18:42 PM
Those look like pretty cool skins.

I downloaded rainmeter once but I never really got anything interesting going with it.

The rss feeds there are pretty cool.
1778  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Super Baby caught on tape on: June 28, 2014, 09:16:57 PM
Pretty sad.

That kid is going to be scarred for life after seeing that.

1779  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Anonymous has a message for all the mega-banks who've oppressed us on: June 28, 2014, 09:14:38 PM
Isn't this faked video to adiverse cryptocurrencies?

screams this...
I don't see this happening, some new guy makes a youtube account and a website as well as a fake anonymous announcement video and claims he's taking down banks and promoting crypto's.
What a joke, just like december 21 the world ending.

EDIT - take a look at the blockchain address
https://blockchain.info/address/1CJg2c8Kn34QfBLs5hn84rm52GF3zAerMZ

a used address...I'm sure anonymous would have made a fresh one dedicated to contributions for this project. This is no more than a fake trying to get a bit of free coin.

Yeah. There is very little chance that this is a genuine video.

This is not their style. Despite attempts by the video creator to emulate it.
1780  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do you hate government? on: June 28, 2014, 09:11:27 PM
I don't inherently 'hate' government. Government can be good and government can be bad. Taking a general emotional stance like that is a bit silly.
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