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181  Bitcoin / Press / [2014-03-25] USA Today - IRS: Bitcoin is not currency on: March 25, 2014, 10:31:12 PM
USA Today: http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2014/03/25/irs-says-bitcoin-is-property/6873569/

IRS Guidance: http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2014/03/25/irs-answers-on-bitcoin-tax-guidance/6874925/

 Smiley
182  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: CoinTerra announces its first ASIC - Hash-Rate greater than 500 GH/s on: March 24, 2014, 06:29:20 PM
New firmware posted today. Has anybody tried it?

Applied about 30 minutes ago, and so far so good. They changed the interface and stats page a little (nothing major, just how the GH/s is presented).

Hash rate is at 1.4TH/s (power step '7'), which is more or less what it was at before...I'll give it a couple hours and check back to see if it stabilized any higher. If it looks good, I'll probably try stepping up the power a bit to see if I can get one or more of the cores to go offline like before (power step '8' and above triggered it for me).
183  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Total Hashrate Forecast Q1, Q2 2014 (Community work) on: March 24, 2014, 03:15:22 PM
Obligatory 'bump' to include Spondoolies  -- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=521520.0

Unknown how many units they're got on the books so far, but we may be able to speculate.
184  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: What happens in the end? on: March 23, 2014, 04:59:21 PM
You know this discussion reminds me of the Y2K problem.
But  it's reversed, we are anticipating a problem which will come in 2140.
I'm sure as time comes along we will see this become a non-issue.

Sort of. The block reward drops to 0 in 2140, sure, but we'll be seeing the importance of a growing Bitcoin network (thus more transactions / revenue based on fees) far sooner than that. The next reward halving comes in 2016, following the drop that happens every 4 years or so. By ~2032, the reward will be under BTC1.0...so either the price per BTC has to skyrocket to cover expenses incurred by mining, or the amount of fees earned has to make up for it.
185  Economy / Speculation / Re: Should I buy $10,000 worth of BTC right now? on: March 23, 2014, 04:26:52 AM
Well I bought 8 BTC when it was at $850 lol so I'm thinking about buying now, it will hit 700 again in a few days right?

Few days, few months, or a few years. Focusing on the short term prospects always yields unpredictable results. If you believe in Bitcoin, both in the root technology and its global use, then invest for the long term instead. It may be that in 10 years, for example, $565 per coin could be incredibly cheap...
186  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Guide] Dogie's Comprehensive SpondooliesTech SP10 Setup & Review on: March 21, 2014, 09:32:37 PM
Great review, thanks Dogie.

Quick question (not sure if it has been mentioned elsewhere): When you say it's loud, how loud are we talking? I've got 2 AntMiner S1s, and at 1 meter it measures at ~61-62dB (using Android's 'Sound Meter' application, which seems fairly reliable). Room temp is about 20C or so right now.
187  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: When will the difficulty reach 10B? Join the discussion and get 100mBTC on: March 21, 2014, 09:23:07 PM
If someone would give you some money and you had to put it on yes or now - wether the difficulty would be above 10B on June 15 what would you do? Give some reasons for your decision - write a blog article about it. You have to come up with a percentage in your post. Post here or make send us a link to your post and your opinion.

We choose the bets post and publish it (if you agree) on blog.fairlay.com. Furthermore we bet for you (or give it to your account and you do) 100mBTC on this corresponding bet: https://www.fairlay.com/bet/registered/new/bitcoin-difficulty-10b/ at the ratio your % suggests. If you say it is 50% then we bet 50mBTC on yes and on 50mBTC on no. The odds would be the corresponding odds * 1.05. In the example the corresponding odds to 50% are 2. Thus two bets of 50mBTC with odds of 2*1.05 = 2.1. If this is confusing - forget it - we will guide you - all we want to now is a good assumption wether this will happen or not.

I’d say that the difficulty will almost certainly be above 10B by then (though I’d happily be wrong).
June 15th is roughly 7 difficulty changes away (assuming the 12-13 days per 2016 blocks), which even at a low 15% increase per change would still result in a network difficulty of approximately 11B by then.

When you start taking a look at manufacturers who will be developing and shipping over the next few months (Spondoolies, CoinTerra, KnC, ASICMiner, BitMain, BitMine.CH, etc), seeing difficulty spikes similar to mid/late-2013 are not unlikely. Not to mention the unpredictable increase in private mining interests from individuals and companies that are looking to develop and use their own mining chips.

The average difficulty increase between January 1st, 2013 and March 13th, 2014 is 21.53%[1]. Applying that average over the next several difficulty increases places mid-June 2014 around 16B.


[1] -- https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty
188  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: What happens in the end? on: March 21, 2014, 07:10:42 PM
So when the miners are no longer rewarded coins, why would the miners keep paying for hardware, labour electricity, internet, rent, cooling, etc.?

Will they then be paid with only transaction fees?
There is not enough ROI in fees alone now, so what is going to happen?
Increased transaction fees?
Will that cause everyone to drop bitcoin and move on to a cheaper coin?

Can someone explain the end to me.  I do not understand it after all coins are mined - how the system will continue on.

Will they then be paid with only transaction fees? / There is not enough ROI in fees alone now, so what is going to happen?

As the Bitcoin network grows and the block reward drops, transaction fees will become the primary source of income for miners. Theoretically, this shouldn't be a problem because the amount of accumulated fees will continue to grow along with the network. The more people using Bitcoin for everyday purchases, the more miners will collect in fees for processing those transactions. In a few decades, it may not be unreasonable to see transaction fees at BTC25, while the block reward itself dwindles will below BTC1.0...sort of a reverse to what we're seeing now.

Increased transaction fees?

An increase in transaction fees could also happen, and would seem likely as the network grows.

Will that cause everyone to drop bitcoin and move on to a cheaper coin?

I suppose it's possible, but it also comes down to how you view a "cheaper coin". At current prices, I can purchase a little over 172,000 satoshis for just $1!

I do not understand it after all coins are mined - how the system will continue on.

With the coins all mined, the system continues based on transactions throughout the Bitcoin economy, with miners processing those transactions. Those earned fees should still be able to marginally cover a miner's expenses (if they do, the network/difficulty slowly grows...if they don't, the network/difficulty slowly falls). The price per BTC (or mBTC, or Satoshi) will also adjust based on this.
189  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] Spondoolies-Tech launches a new line of ASIC miners. Shipping in 7 days!!! on: March 19, 2014, 07:39:43 PM
What's your refund policy?

And also how much warranty?

I echo these questions, but I haven't seen a response yet. Anything on these, SyRenity?


Sorry, missed these ones during the launch rush.

The full TOS is here:
http://www.spondoolies-tech.com/pages/terms-of-sale

In a nutshell:
  • All sales are final, we guarantee to deliver the ASIC units on time and per the announced specifications (we bound on this to our VC investors as well!).
  • DOA - 14 days within purchase, via RMA procedure defined in TOS.
  • Warranty - 90 days limited, assuming no modding was done to the units.

I actually had my finger on the trigger to buy one until I saw this.

Unfortunately, I can't remember a time when the non-refundable / limited warranty approach hasn't burned a customer...so as shiny and well-engineered as your product may be, I'll sit on the sidelines until you guys have established yourselves. Nothing against Spondoolies, of course, but my tolerance for risk is quite a bit lower than it once was.
190  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] Spondoolies-Tech launches a new line of ASIC miners. Shipping in 7 days!!! on: March 19, 2014, 03:16:14 PM
What's your refund policy?

And also how much warranty?

I echo these questions, but I haven't seen a response yet. Anything on these, SyRenity?
191  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: CoinTerra announces its first ASIC - Hash-Rate greater than 500 GH/s on: March 18, 2014, 09:02:32 PM
So I know the IP  address 240.XXX.XX.XXX, and then how do I connect to 192.168.1.XXX?Huh How do I connect to 240.XXX.XX.XXX and point to 192.168.1.XXX??? Please let me know  thanks.

I suppose we're going to need more info on your datacenter setup to answer that. It can get complicated depending on how your NAT and IP forwarding was set up.

Just so I'm clear, you're trying to connect to the 240.x.x.x address (the public facing IP given to you by the datacenter?), and then access your CoinTerra unit (which is addressed on the 192.168.x.x subnet)? Nothing in between (a firewall, for example), and nothing happens when you try to SSH directly to the 240.x.x.x address?
192  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: CoinTerra announces its first ASIC - Hash-Rate greater than 500 GH/s on: March 18, 2014, 03:20:32 PM
Thanks, that would come in handy. Now I have to see how I would use it at the Datacenter. I have to ask the employee to change the original to this. What you think of putting a Windows Desktop PC in the datacenter and remotely connect to it to monitor the Teraminers?

I am not sure how handly the Windows box would be because if you can't connect to the Terraminers from outside the datacenter(via Web, SSH), it would be almost the same from the Windows machine inside the data center as well. If there are a bunch of Terraminers, it would be nice to monitor them all off of a Windows box though to keep them all behind a firewall.

I do this myself personally - I run a basic box onsite that I connect to remotely from Teamviewer to manage multiple CTA and Antminer units. I don't know of a way to connect to the WebUI systems they use for management outside of the LAN, so I just use Teamviewer to get behind the LAN and then log in from there. Right now I've got one unit running on Eligius so I can just have a bookmark for that address and check it frequently and I've got another on GHASH that should send me an email if there's a hashrate drop.

This is essentially what I've done as well and so far it's worked out quite well. Since we've got other servers in our rack, I was able to spin up a Windows 7 VM...cleaned it up, and the only things on it are Chrome, PuTTy, and AVG. I'm behind my company's firewall with an exception for my IP, so I connect up via direct RDP, but I'll probably switch over to an IPSec tunnel soon.

I also use the 'Bitcoin Mining Monitor' Chrome extension set up with my API key from BTCGuild, so I constantly see my current total hashrate. Any fluctuations below the norm and I usually see it, and act on it, pretty quickly.


How do you log in  the SSH???

There are a few ways, but if you're using a Windows-based machine you can use PuTTy, which is a fairly popular SSH and Telnet tool. Assuming your unit is configured to allow SSH (which I think it is by default) and you know the IP of your CoinTerra unit, select to connect to it via SSH / port 22. I believe the default login info to the unit is: root / cointerra
Once in, just type reboot to restart the device.
193  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: {BFL} Here's a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOK at your Monarch! on: March 14, 2014, 01:35:30 PM
when deliver?

Should be about "Two WeeksTM"
194  Economy / Securities / Re: [Havelock][KCIM] Korb Investments – Establishing my Investment Firm, part 1 on: March 13, 2014, 01:53:50 AM
Quick updates:

-- Purchased an additional AntMiner S1 this afternoon, which hopefully will be shipped out soon. Another 180GH/s will be nice!
-- Moved away from BitMinter and back to BTCGuild. Keeping with the spirit of Bitcoin, I always enjoy supporting smaller pools, but the bad luck we've been experiencing hasn't helped us. I'm sure the switch to a larger pool will result in a much more stable income.
-- Cashed out all Namecoins earned on BitMinter to BTC-e, a total of 60.52944775. Converted those coins @ BTC0.00542 each (as of 9:33pm EDT). After a 0.2% fee, the resulting Bitcoins were BTC0.32741346, which has been added to our mining address for the upcoming dividend.
195  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Will you back out? on: March 12, 2014, 03:57:09 PM
Alright, let's see if we can answer some of those questions.

  • will you back out if you have less than 600 GH?

Not necessarily. Other than your hashing speed vs the network's, there are a few other important variables when it comes to mining; 1) The cost of your equipment in Bitcoins, 2) the price of a Bitcoin in fiat, and 3) the cost of a kWh in your area (or wherever the equipment is situated).

So long as running a 600GH/s machine is profitable, it will more than likely stay online and hashing. Maintaining profitability comes down to covering energy and space costs, which typically comes down to a payment in fiat (at some point). Even at a 10x difficulty increase (to 38B), a 600GH/s miner using 600W will still be marginally profitable, netting about $20 each week ($35 in BTC at current prices - $15 in electricity @ $0.15 / kWh).

It's not much, sure, but it's also not negative, especially if you live in an area with cheaper (or free) electricity.


  • will you try to get a higher order miner (in the size of Tera Hash?)

If the price, size, and energy efficiency match your needs/wants, then sure.


  • How it is possible that such BTC address has that TH rate now?

As HellDiverUK already noted, those addresses typically belong to the largest mining groups.


  • you think one of the ASIC providers will be able to ship before the complexity get to high to even this new miners can't take more than some dollars each day?

You may want to check out BitMain and their AntMiner line of products -- https://www.bitmaintech.com
They ship out gear every few days from their stock, no need for pre-orders.


  • Is really the future mining like it seems when this new technology comes finally out?

So long as there's a cost effective way to develop a faster, cheaper, more energy efficient ASIC for mining, yes.


  • EXTRA ADDED:  also build one on your own will make it less profitable even to a point where you could not make a home made option because it will not be able to get back what you used for build it on first place at maybe some like 0.00000979 BTC per day [don't know if I do this calculation ok]

Not quite sure what you're asking here...

Seem I haven't seen the whole picture https://blockchain.info/charts/hash-rate march 14 the max hash rate is 35,659,964 GH.

If I'm not wrong 35,659 TH and if the address is making 901.66 Th/s... it isn't making alone more hashing operations that the whole net?... lol.... I guess I failed in understand this.

The 900TH/s is part of the network total 35,659TH/s, so no, it wouldn't create more hashing operations than the rest of the network...if that's what you're asking?
196  Economy / Securities / Re: [Havelock][KCIM] Korb Investments – Establishing my Investment Firm, part 1 on: March 11, 2014, 09:59:23 PM
Are we still at 1EYUhR7cJSacH9URg85H2DqzCDtujKWiEg for mining income? Haven't seen any deposits in a few days.

Indeed, seems we're in a stretch of bad luck :: https://bitminter.com/livestats/big

1 day, 10.5 hours since the last block.
197  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Difficulty vis-a-vis less hashing power. on: March 11, 2014, 05:56:46 PM
Quick question from someone new to this universe. If the exchange rate BTC USD falls to say, 1BTC = 10 USD, presumably some people already in the BitCoin ecosystem would give up adding hash power, maybe even pull out of the whole enterprise. In this case of less hashing power at the margin, what would happen to the rate of increase of the difficulty? I think the difficulty number itself would not fall, but I´m not sure.

Hashing power is typically only added (en masse) when profitability is possible, even if it's long-term. As you've already surmised, a falling BTC/USD rate not only reduces the amount of power being brought online, it also increases the amount of gear being taken offline as well.

As more and more equipment is turned off, the next / expected difficulty will decrease as well, but the current difficulty will stay the same until all 2016 blocks are found. For example, if half of the miners powered off today, the difficulty would still be '3815723799' until the last ~230 blocks (and counting) are solved.
198  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: CoinTerra announces its first ASIC - Hash-Rate greater than 500 GH/s on: March 11, 2014, 04:58:40 PM
new firmware download:

http://cointerra.com/firmware-downloads/

has anyone tried it yet?

[...]

I'll give it another day or two. If all looks well, I'll probably try bumping up the power a little and see how it holds up.

Just to quote myself and state the results, the firmware upgrade has helped with stability quite a bit. Bumped up the power to '6' last week and maintained 1.4TH/s since then (no reboots, yay!). No cores have gone offline, and there's been less fluctuation with hashrate (both from the device 'status' page and from the pool). I'll try increasing the power a bit more over the next few days and see how it holds up.
199  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: Fucking Ponzi's and the idiots that buy into them on: March 11, 2014, 01:10:35 PM
mem, I'm with you in this fight.  they have simply been allowed to take over.  spirit of marketplace/gambling, destroyed in a scammy ball of bitcoin dust.  I feel it too my man. 

The mods are our only hope.  Maybe that or a revolt / peaceful non-violent forum demonstration of some sort.  maybe make 20 threads that all say "PONZI'S GET OUT OF MARKETPLACE / GAMBLING THEY ARE SCAMS"

If only, if only...

I'll just leave this here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=472000.msg5625165#msg5625165
200  Other / Meta / Re: Theymos is taking illegal ads from a ponzi scheme - MakeBtc.org on: March 10, 2014, 10:14:43 PM
If I knew for sure that it was a scam, I would have removed it. But I wasn't sure in this case, and in fact it turned out that the site was not a scam.

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