Wow, what's wrong with,


Now you decide you don't want an active discussion with me and decide to give a gesture to dismiss my question? Or perhaps I read them from a wrong perspective? But sure, I'll bite. First, to clarify my status and position:

If you read my post history on this forum, then you'll also figured out that on those threads I attend and... asks in details, either the dev team finally gave up by stopped replying, suddenly cease from existence in the crypto world and abandoning their thread because I ask the question that obliterate their scam attempt, or they're legit and I stopped asking because they gave an adequate information and I think from that point anyone interested on investing can use the materials gathered from the questioning session as part of their DD.

For example, this project, which sounds very confident at first, ready for their token sale, turning rather aggressive when I ask details of their tokenomy, and then poofff... gone. On the other side, this project seems rather legit (note that I didn't promote them by any means by saying this) they're backed by a company that's checked, they didn't care how much raised by the ICO, so I leave them alone.

And of course, in my very subjective opinion, I don't think my questions can be considered as nitpicking. Nitpick is the action associated with asking tiny, useless, and unimportant details. Perhaps something like a typo in a website, or a grammatical error, which (as far as I remember) I have never even bother to ask. I prefer the words scrutinizing if we have to put a label on my actions. I inspect closely.

As an example, I think digging for some details on this project (a little out of topic, I was in touch with the CEO and waited for his feedback on the matter) kinda prove some degree of effort taken to investigate, uhh... I mean scrutinize a project.

Unless, of course, if you consider the information about your deal with binance is insignificant and unimportant. If that's the case, then yes, I think it's rather acceptable if you deem my question as nitpicky, as the description matched.

Next, I would have to beg to differ on the term of being constructive as I think it's rather subjective. To whom does it non-constructive? To readers who intend to invest, the information is rather beneficial to gain information. To a legit project developer who has nothing to hide, the exchange of conversation helps them explaining their project and give details that might be missed. For a project that is rather questionable and didn't want their stack of lies, scam project, and the likes, well then yes, I think I'm rather pesky from their perspective. Like what the bad guys in scooby doo said, "I would have gotten away with it, if it weren't for you meddling kids!" But to be fair, up to this point, I don't think you're trying to scam. Benefits of the doubt, of course.

Finally, the question is easy. You keep avoiding a direct answer is what makes this discussion lengthy and unnecessary, which raises more suspicion. So, please allow me to change my question and add just a tad bit of security measure, which I think kinda acceptable to be asked and... scrutinized over, given your statement:


"Have you been in discussion with binance for listing (if so, please share us a screenshot of conversation or ticket submission proof, or anything to back up the claim you so determined to keep ambiguous, censoring important details, of course)? Or was the statement wrong, and factually there is no effort and measurements taken to be listed on binance other than planning and discussing them internally?"

If... I may suggest, if the answer is "no, we haven't," I would urge you to say "sorry, it's just a planning phase and we misworded our sentence". You'll lose some face, but I'm sure you can gain it back if you perform nicely, and certainly it'll save you from unnecessary further embarrassment. Like you, I really like to move forward from this topic into another cases

The problem here is not what you write (or didn't write), what I read, and what people interpret. Your situation here is offering a business proposal and asking people to invest, in you. It will only be fair if they're given as much and as clear information as they need to help them decide, not an ambiguous and free-to-interpret answer.

If people are about to invest in a project (be it me or any other people) they should have an access to a clear and honest information of how prospective the project is. And on this specific matter, how likely will the project ends up in binance like you claim you will be. So I do really hope you can understand the situation where I, you, and everybody else sat and gave an answer that could leave as small as possible room for interpretation.

The question is very simple, and a short yes or no will give a lot of people helps in their decision, if you really want to be fair: have you been in contact with binance to discuss the listing?

Sorry, didn't mean to be rude by saying that I didn't watch the entire duration of fifty something minutes of the AMA, it is too long for the piece of info i am trying to get. I jumped through the seconds and finally slide through the timeline to see the timeframe, and it came to my awareness that the entire video is about an interview with one of your team member (hence, an AMA, duh), no other shared images or anything, so I think it's safe to say the doxxing did not happen via image sharing and no other picture of your team is available for us. Although, I can't say that it is also not described verbally as I jumped through the video. So, is there an easier method to get this acclaimed doxx? Perhaps you can inform me on which minutes of the video your team details started to be shared?

Stated on your website that team is transparent and doxxed by video on telegram. Which video is this? Between the repetitive 990ish video of yours, I have to say people has to go to a length just to find this. I'll appreciate if you can present the link to the video here, and then we can move to the topic regarding your project technicalities

As you're the previous poster of their ann before you deleted it due to them having their own ann thread, and seeing you're still announcing for them, I assume you're still with them, be it their team or hired to market them. Can you please answer my question above?

I see that I need to sign up to access the page you gave me. It's rather bothersome for many people if they have to sign up just to learn more about this. Is there any other way to access this information without having to take part on your membership/signing up?

And which part of "on that" are you talking about? The false tokenomy? The team anonymity? The free template (if, I have to be fair, is not really a problem as long as the team is legit. Problem is, they're dubious)? All of them?

Why do I have this strongly eerie feeling that I've read your thread some good days ago? And I'm not talking about this old one, I feels like I've read those silly names of team one or two weeks ago. Just to appease my curiosity, how many thread do you have before this?

And moving to another matter, just to be sure we are on the same page, I'm trying to match your post I quote below with a lot of snip and a little modification (without changing the wording and their essence) for an easier read, with the tokenomy image from your post I quote below it:



The buyback reward from your first post (the image) is 2%, and later on you said it's 3%. The burn reward on the image is 2%, but you said on the image above it (not quoted in order to keep this post for being too crowded with image), you say you didn't burn, but instead you'll turn them into the staking reward pool, so how many % of staking reward, where from, and in what form of currency/token are they? None of your numbers and statements matches each others.

To make things less (although it's ironically more suitable if we say "more") complicated, please tell us, by your definition, what's the difference between:
1. burn and buyback, given no token will be burned
2. Holders and rewards, given the rewards are all given to the holders, thanks to no-burn-but-instead-we-will-turn-to-staking-reward-pool
3. Burn, buyback, holders, and rewards, given all of those things are put into one same pool of... reward.

Lastly, where on earth does the BPD come from? None of the percentage on those 18% acquired from selling activity are stated to be allocated for the pay day, and boom, suddenly you reward holders with large amount of token.

That, and I think numerous (if not most) scam projects with defi and crypto theme use the template. Given how the team profile are cartoonishly vague, it just strengthen the tone of a short lived project. Or perhaps team would come forward and reveal themselves?

Maybe I am careless in looking for the info, but where's this details of tiered plan on your website, again? Maybe you can give a link?

And, forgive me for skipping this part, I almost forgot to talk about this, by "experienced affiliates and marketers", you're referring to those... youtube vloggers and instagram influencers? Or were you referring to the term I used, the professional marketers as in the google ads (who helps discoverability on google search) or maybe like Iris?

So you're saying that there is no added benefits of purchasing the EVOL and thus getting themselves into the tiered plan, other than the very basic principle of crypto trading itself where they buy at a low price and reap a benefit in the future when the price per token rises?

Allow me to quote your litepaper

Please pardon my straightforwardness, but... that's it? Your answer to the issue I pointed out, which is quite likely and common to happen in a rewarded-for-finding-emotional-items situation, is "oh, we didn't think that far of a scenario when we draw a concept of our project because we assume everybody is nice. Our bad. Have you got any idea?"

Again, pardon my rudeness, but please inform us how do you suggest people to trust a project that suffered from a nearsightedness of a situation that'll be very likely to happen in the problem they tried to solve?

The benefits of buying token you have is the ability to buy your product at a cheaper price, Intelligent-fluid, am I correct? But your parent-website said that the product main purpose is for three business area: microelectronics, maintenance and oil & gas, so how will everyday-end-user be benefited from this? Aside from trading them, I mean.

Wouldn't the tiered plan be counterproductive and unfair? Unfair because they who pay more will have chance to earn more than those who work hard on marketing a product. And counterproductive for the same reason; those who pay more will earn more, thus they don't need to put much efforts on doing their job (i.e. marketing), which could leads to a situation where the hiring company didn't get as good marketing results as if all of the marketers work really hard due to the lack of those "cheat codes" that'll double their reward. I think I'll walk and cleared this discussion before moving to the topic of the hiring-company.

I gave your website a read, and I have to start by admitting that due to the length of your explanation where one thing leads to other explanation, I hopped here and there. This is the statement I base my question from:


Wouldn't it suggest that xan token is more suitable for manufacturer or other companies whose activities involving xanthohumol? Or, on the very least, user who uses and know how to use xanthohumol. How will regular user/holder be benefited from possessing xan?

I'm aware that you didn't exactly answer my question, just diverting them with some ambiguous statements. The way I perceive your answer, you're just on some planning phase to get into binance, and you still haven't do any proper documentation or steps needed to be considered by binance because you need the fund raised by your crowdfund to pay the listing fee, so if you didn't raise enough, you would not even try to reach binance. That is how I read them,  I could be wrong, so maybe I need to ask you to answer with a short yes or no: have you been in contact with binance to discuss the listing?

Is there any good explanation why your team who claims choose to be doxxed to boost confidence in investors suddenly removes their pictures from your website? The old version can be seen from the archive of my old post as well as the opening post of this thread (also archived), where their pictures were shown below those rather useless TBA we work with list, and the new one, as below didn't have that section

But by buying your tiered plan (the silver, gold, etc.) they'll get certain benefits for certain duration from the member they're referring to? Which, the other member wil also gain certain benefit from other member if they buy some plan. Let's shift the issue to other matter, what would make companies to hire your service as their marketing tool (with your members to be very likely has no background in marketing), while there are options of professional marketers out there?

I gave it a read to page 17, the fraud prevention, and I realized that there's no explanation that covers my question for the case where item value is higher than rewards. Neither on your reply above too. Does this means you have not foresee this kind of issue?

So, no answer to my question?