Dude, can you read?
The article clearly says "investigating the possibility" that it's an "boat tied to Ukrainians".
But no one really has a proof for it.
Of course, you are only interested to quote a story, where "mean Ukraine" has allegedly blown up the pipeline from an "Ukrainian boat".  
Of course, you don't mention that this story has many fallacies:

- Why should Ukraine do it like that, leaving many traces, especially ones, leading to the conclusion that Ukraine is behind it?
- The accused, private sailing boat "Andromeda" (is available for rent) is well suited (not) to do this sort of operation:



- It's totally not possible that Russian officials have ordered their agents to rent the ship, to fabricate the fake evidence to accuse Ukraine and tried to spread this weak story by brainwashed and useful Kremlin trolls like you...  

Maybe add 3 SIM cards (or SIMS 3), rumours are they have been found on the boat, too.  

Doesn't look like a deliberately fabricated Russian attempt to accuse Ukraine for you? Of course not, since you are 100% brainwashed by Russian propaganda...
It's Putins well-known strategy to sow discord, hate and uncertainty among Ukraine's allies...

Nord Stream Sabotage Probe Turns to Clues Inside Poland
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The probe by Germany’s Federal Criminal Police Office is examining why the yacht they believe was used to carry out the operation journeyed into Polish waters. Other findings suggest Poland was a hub for the logistics and financing of last September’s undersea sabotage attack that severed the strongest bond tying Berlin to Moscow.
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Taken together, the details show that the boat sailed around each of the locations where the blasts later took place—evidence that fortified investigators’ belief that the Andromeda was instrumental in last year’s destruction of the pipeline.
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German investigators say they are also looking into why the yacht was rented with the help of a travel agency based in Warsaw that appears to be part of a network of Ukrainian-owned front companies with suspected links to Ukrainian intelligence, according to people familiar with the investigation.
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Their investigation also found that a white van—sighted in a German port by security cameras and eye witnesses—carried Polish license plates and was used to supply its crew, according to people familiar with the investigation.
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In mid-May—five months after Berlin had identified the Andromeda—the two sides had what a Polish Justice Ministry official called a working meeting.
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Investigators first found the yacht following an October tip from a Western intelligence service. The information came from a person in Ukraine who gathers intelligence for a small European country. Officials in that European country have since then questioned why bigger powers with extensive surveillance capabilities and personnel in Ukraine didn’t get wind of the plot on their own—or alert others if they did.

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Poland, like many of its neighbors as well as the U.S., strongly opposed the Nord Stream pipelines, which they viewed as Russian leader Vladimir Putin’s geopolitical weapon to make Europe dependent on Russian energy.
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Polish officials have acknowledged the country’s long Baltic coastline, its 320-mile border with Ukraine and its sizable population of Ukrainians offer obvious advantages for individuals staging such an operation. But these officials said the government played no role in the Nord Stream attack.
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a senior Polish national security official said. “I cannot exclude that some Polish company or whatever is involved in this case.”
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The blasts created vast bubbling geysers in the Baltic Sea that eventually released more greenhouse gas into the atmosphere than the entire annual emissions of Denmark.
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Unlike with Poland, Germany has closely cooperated with those and other nations while conducting the probe. They have classified their investigations, with German officials reminded that under law they could face jail time for leaking details.

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Among the latest findings of the German investigation: The single-mast sloop, loaded with military-grade explosives, sailed south into Polish waters from the Danish island of Christianso.
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Interviews with those familiar with the Andromeda’s voyage indicate the sabotage crew had finished half of their job, laying deep-sea explosives on Nord Stream 1, the older of the undersea gas pipelines, before they set their Bavaria 50 Cruiser on a course away from their target, toward Poland.
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What investigators have established is that the Andromeda, which had days before been rented from a German company based close to where the pipelines land, sailed back north in what investigators believe was an effort to complete its task and plant mines on Nord Stream 2, the second key conduit for Russian gas exports.
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intelligence service of a European country in June 2022. That agency informed the Central Intelligence Agency that a small group of members of Ukraine’s armed forces were planning on sabotaging the pipeline that same month. The CIA passed that warning on to Germany and other allies
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Immediately after the attack, these officials set their sights on Kyiv.
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the small European country that had warned the CIA directly passed on detailed information to Germany that helped its investigators to identify the Andromeda, officials familiar with the exchange of information said. Around the same time, CIA director William Burns was asked in a meeting with a European ally whether Ukraine was responsible. “I hope not,” he said, adding that the available evidence didn’t point to Russia, according to an official with the allied country who was in the room at the time.
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Last month, German investigators took a DNA sample from the soldier’s son, who happens to live with the soldier’s former girlfriend as refugees in the eastern German city of Frankfurt an der Oder.
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The spokeswoman for the prosecutors in Germany said the investigation was working on obtaining enough evidence to issue international arrest warrants.

Indications of Ukrainian perpetrators are increasing
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There is also repeated talk of a so-called "false flag" operation by Russia. Among those familiar with the process, this is considered extremely unlikely. Behind the scenes, it was even said that early on that Moscow had no real motive for the crime.
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Prosecutor Peter Frank are now certain that the sailing yacht "Andromeda" was used for the attack.
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Fake identification documents were apparently used to hire them.
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The often-put-up thesis that the assassins could only have brought the explosives to the site of the attack because of its weight with a larger ship and possibly a mini-submarine is then no longer applicable.
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The traces found by the Federal Criminal Police Office coincide with the assessments of several intelligence services, according to which the originators are to be located in Ukraine. The secret services are now asking whether the deed could have been carried out by an uncontrolled commando or by Ukrainian secret services and to what extent parts of the Ukrainian government apparatus might have been in the know.

There is no irrefutable evidence. You are just stating non-facts without any evidence.

Please notice the "looks like" in my text before you try to accuse me of anything. You do not have any facts because there are no proven facts other than probably some archive somewhere that may be open in 50 years for now... if ever. The difference is that you do make firm statements with no base while I say "looks like".

I think still think there is a very high likelyhood of Ruzzia being behind this. Easy target, lots of damage, right time,...

Western officials no longer suspect Russia of ordering alleged attack against undersea gas pipelines
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Yes, people voting for that AfD party in 2023 are well aware that it's a fascist party.
In January 2022, their last "moderate" voice in a leading position (Jörg Meuthen, AfD) left AfD because according to Meuthen, AfD is unable to get rid of their fascists and he argued that these fascists have basically taken over the party. Someone from AfD should know their internal idiots.  
And AfD has not just only turned a fascist party, it's has also turned into a Putin asslicker party. So, it's not even a German patriotic party, it's a Russia loving bunch of traitors.  

You just have zero clue about German politics, German history and obviously Ukrainian history as well.
It's always amazing to have dimwits like you talking about German politics.
So, keep embarassing yourself as a clueless Putin troll and fascist friend.  


LOL, you are really clueless how Hitler achieved to destroy the democratic system. He achieved it due to people like you in powerful positions underestimating Hitler and his fascist friends.  
You are so embarassing but let me give you some basic links to educate you about it:
You can start here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franz_von_Papen (Binging Hitler into power):


So, it's 1933 again and let's just pretend, AfD is a well-behaving party and let's make a center-right coalition with them, like Franz von Papen did, when he was too naive and helped Hitler to seize power.  
You are so clueless, it really hurts.  




Sure, let's quote again my text from earlier:




It's quite interesting that you are doubling down on your Putin asslicking even if it's making no sense at all.  
We all know it's either Poland, Germany, the US, the UK, France, Sweden or Ukraine but NOT Russia.  

Isn't it embarrassing to defend Russia again and again, while you have already well realized how Russia is a big terrorist state?
Because dude, you know nothing, not about Ukrainian history, not about German history...



It's a mystery why idiots like you are cheering both for
- AfD, a fascist party
- Putin and his criminal regime blowing up his pipeline after it got useless due to Germany not willing to fund Putin's war

Ukraine has exposed the EU’s nationalism
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Joining the EU meant that the national and popular sovereignty of these countries was immediately constrained. In the medium term, this produced a backlash against the EU, the effects of which we now see in Hungary and Poland.
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urged Europeans to unite to become a “third force” in international politics and maintain their position of power in the world. Central to this thinking was the idea of Africa as Europe’s “plantation”.
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many imagined that European integration would overcome not just national sovereignty but sovereignty in general as the EU became a kind of blueprint for global governance
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The far-Right was rising and the centre-right began to converge with it, especially on questions of identity, immigration and Islam. The policy area where this convergence between the centre-right and the far-Right played out most clearly, and with the most horrific consequences, is immigration.
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As Human Rights Watch put it recently, the EU’s policy can be summed up in three words: “let them die.”
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Thus when Russia invaded Ukraine in 2022, it was inevitably seen as a civilisational Other against which Europe must defend itself.
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Even as it continued to brutally push back migrants in the Mediterranean, it opened its borders to those fleeing from Ukraine and provided them with extraordinary support.
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Perhaps the most peculiar feature of the European response, though, is the way that “pro-Europeans” have suddenly embraced a nationalist movement — as the ubiquitousness of Ukrainian flags illustrates. Traditionally, “pro-Europeans” did not distinguish between ethnic-cultural and civic versions of nationalism, but saw all nationalism as a dangerous force.
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What makes the sudden “pro-European” identification with Ukrainian nationalism even stranger, however, is that it is not just any nationalism. Rather, it has a long history of anti-Semitism which extends from its 16th-century Cossack leader Bohdan Khmelnytsky to Stepan Bandera during the Second World War — both of whom are still venerated in Ukraine. Moreover, after 2014, much of the fighting in the Donbas was done by the Azov Battalion, a neo-Nazi militia that was integrated into the Ukrainian National Guard. Supporters of Ukraine claim that these neo-Nazi elements were later removed. But at least two of the five Azov commanders who Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky recently brought back to Ukraine as heroes are neo-Nazis who go back to the founding of Azov.
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much bigger questions, such as whether, once in the EU, Ukraine would become a larger version of Hungary and Poland.

Ukraine and its supporters worry about losing control of the narrative
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government in Kyiv is waging a different kind of battle abroad, trying to shape how the world perceives its counteroffensive.
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Some U.S. officials privately expressed disappointment that the Ukrainians have appeared to hold back on deploying some of their most well-equipped and trained units, and that they have not necessarily applied the training principles they received. “There is a frustration that they have not used more of the combat power that they have,” one U.S. official said.
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Another senior administration official said the Biden administration and U.S. allies have given Ukraine everything it requested for the counteroffensive, including 500 tanks and hundreds of armored vehicles.
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“We are confident that they have significant combat capability available to them...” Pentagon press secretary Brig. Gen. Pat Ryder told reporters Thursday.
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brigade commander had pursued direct assaults during the counteroffensive in hopes of a swift victory. The army sent infantry and armored units to attack the Russian lines across uncleared minefields and without suppressing enemy fire. The brigades were shredded by opposing forces, and the commanders were severely criticized internally for the unnecessary losses.
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Volodymyr Zelenskyy...said they waited “because, frankly, we had not enough munitions and armaments and not enough properly trained brigades.”
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Now, breaking through Russian lines across the dense minefields in the east and the south will almost certainly inflict high casualties on Ukrainian troops, U.S. officials and experts said.
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There is a danger that “there might be the narrative of stalemate or the narrative of a failed Ukrainian counteroffensive,” he said.
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“We have launched a counteroffensive without any kind of air superiority — not in the air force, not in drones, not in helicopters. We have a little bit in terms of precision-guided artillery munitions,” said Polyakov, who works for a military think tank advising Zelenskyy. “But to talk about holding back without all these necessary components, it is ludicrous.”
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But there has been no significant change in the front lines in the war for the past nine months. Both Ukrainian and Russian forces have failed to achieve major advances, and Samuel Charap, a senior political scientist at the Rand Corp think tank, argues that neither side has a realistic chance of scoring a definitive victory. As a result, the U.S. should start preparing for an inconclusive outcome and explore options for an eventual diplomatic settlement, he said.
“It’s an indication of where things are going. There’s not going to be a decisive military outcome,” Charap said.

CNN Poll: Majority of Americans oppose more US aid for Ukraine in war with Russia
Most Americans oppose Congress authorizing additional funding to support Ukraine in its war with Russia,
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Overall, 55% say the US Congress should not authorize additional funding to support Ukraine vs. 45% who say Congress should authorize such funding. And 51% say that the US has already done enough to help Ukraine while 48% say it should do more. A poll conducted in the early days of the Russian invasion in late February 2022 found 62% who felt the US should have been doing more.
Partisan divisions have widened since that poll, too, with most Democrats and Republicans now on opposing sides of questions on the US role in Ukraine.
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When asked specifically about types of assistance the US could provide to Ukraine, there is broader support for help with intelligence gathering (63%) and military training (53%) than for providing weapons (43%), alongside very slim backing for US military forces to participate in combat operations (17%).
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Republicans broadly say that Congress should not authorize new funding (71%) and that the US has done enough to assist Ukraine (59%). Among Democrats, most say the opposite, 62% favor additional funding and 61% say that the US should do more.
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Independents mostly say the US has done enough to help Ukraine (56%) and that they oppose additional funding (55%).
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There’s an even larger partisan gap over providing weapons to Ukraine, with 61% of Democrats behind that compared with 39% of independents and just 30% of Republicans.

Americans Are Turning Against Ukraine Joining NATO
Support among U.S. voters for Ukraine joining NATO has gone down in the last three months
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in 2020 conducted on April 5 with a 2.53 percent margin of error, just over half of respondents (55 percent) said that Kyiv should join the alliance.
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a survey conducted on July 25 and 26 of the same size sample of voters, with the same margin of error, found that backing for Ukraine's membership of NATO had diminished. Support for Ukraine's membership had gone down by eight percentage points—to 47 percent, with 23 percent "strongly" supporting the move, and 29 percent neutral.
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The proportion of those opposing Ukrainian membership of NATO went up by six percent, to 16 percent

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Oh, yes, let's not tiptoe... do you condemn Ruzzian attacks in schools, restaurants, civilian buildings including churches, hospitals, entertainment and shopping places?

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Blowing the Nord Stream II looks like the RF army doing to kind of "make a point" on regards to EU aid and aligns well with a country that is under a Junta.

In my view, this is an act of war. The Orc army could have chosen any other target right? A bridge in France, a factory in Germany... Why do you think they would hit NS II? The answer is very simple: it is not in NATO territory and does not grant a NATO mobilisation which would end any expectation of even a technical "victory" in the invasion.

Now, what does YOUR critical thinking tell you about this?

Exactly that. As someone from Germany I can confirm that the video is classic Russian propaganda and trying to undermine support for Ukraine in Germany by making up false claims and parroting lies. Presented are the usual Kremlin talking points, targeting a German audience but luckily, most Germans are educated and don't believe Russia's propaganda.  


As far as I know, some German researchers have identified Russian actors in the video and some scenes in Germany are animated from stock photos. Likely, it's from Russia Today or some affiliated criminals, German journalists have reported.
AfD has denied to be behind the video but AfD denying something does not mean anything.  
At least, AfD is really happy to have that video and AfD is actively spreading it on social media and their fake news network.

(Video creator exposed here (German))

AfD is our braindead fascist party, where all the idiots are gathering their fascist ideas and it's always surprising how uneducated and corrupt these right-wing politicians are.
Very likely AfD is financed by Russia (some close ties are already proven, where AfD idiots met with Russians in Russia and Eastern Ukraine to celebrate Russia).  
AfD is always trying to play down Russia's war crimes and spread hate against Ukraine.

AfD is only in Bundestag (German parliament) because some people are outright fascists or just braindead (they want to be governed by braindead people, too).
Some people don't even agree with AfD's Russia fetish but vote AfD as a protest vote.  

We have a new joke in Germany because AfD's EU candidate (Maximilian Krah) has a similar name like a cartoon character (Kra) and the cartoon character symbolizes Hitler.  

 
They are talking the same fascist bullshit, too.  
And their look is similar as well.

So, @Branko, you've disqualified yourself once again for supporting Nazis.
Maybe, Putin supporters are the fascists, not Ukrainians...  

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You are confused, obviously.  
Your braindead war criminal dictator, Putler, is actively financing fascists all over Europe, like he's financing Germany's AfD as well.  
Get your facts right, you Russian war crimes apologist.
 

As a German I can tell you that you are indeed the sort of guy where 1 random article from the internet is enough to make up your opinion.  
Things are very easy in the world of Putin apologists like you - no surprise.  

The AfD from 2022 has (almost) nothing to do with AfD from 2013 (only the name). AfD started as a party criticizing many "poorer" EU countries (Italy, Greece) which got a lot of money from Germany via EU and because Germany paid that, AfD wanted to stop money transfers to them because in AfD 2013's opinion these countries were "lazy".
The AfD from 2013 didn't want to leave EU - never! They wanted to bring reforms to EU and some advocated for a revival of Deutsche Mark - Germans currency before Euro was launched.
Their main topic were economics. Most of their leaders were educated and sane back in 2013.

In 2015, AfD selected a new leader while during 2015, the right wing of AfD gained massive traction and the right wing achieved a coup against the founder of AfD - he was ousted and in a hot battle, he left the party. He was replaced by Frauke Petry, a moderate right wing politician and when the immigration crisis 2015 came up, AfD shifted their agenda from their former topic (economics) to immigration - advocating to deny most immigrants and throw them out of Germany.
Some years later, in 2017, Frauke Petry also faced a coup from the right wing of the right wing (nationalists) and the nationalists won - the party shiftet further right.
There was a third shift even further right in 2019 / 2020, when the fascist right took over the important lead over the Eastern-German parts of the party, where Bernd Höcke, a fascist, is so strong.

In its history, the party has only become more radical every few years.

Almost all people who founded AfD in 2013 have now left the party or were thrown out by the fascist right, whose leader Bernd Höcke is.
There are almost no sane people left in this party...

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And no, I have to disappoint you, neither Germany nor USA/Poland nor Ukraine blow up NordStream 2, but Putin has clear motives to blow it up.

Let's look at it:

Germany doesn't need to blow up this pipeline since it has been sure since Putin's illegal war, that NordStream 2 will never be activated and purchase of russian gas by NordStream 1 to Germany will stop as soon as possible. Germany has pushed very hard to get rid of russian gas and the pipeline has become basically irrelevant.
Why should they blow up the pipeline? Makes no sense at all.  

After USA tried to lobby against NordStream 2 for years with massive efforts but has been unsuccesful so far because surprisingly, Putin has been the one who made their mission succesful on February 24, when Putin invaded Ukraine and isolated Russia succesfully from the West.
Surely, the USA would blow up a useless pipeline which will never get activated because Putin finished this Job already on February 24.
Surely, the USA would risk the alliance by blowing up a useless pipeline from an allied state (Germany) while there's no need at all to take such a risky adventure (will never get activated).
Surely, the USA would only blow up 3 streams and 1 of them, especially from NordStream 2, will stay intact, so that Putin can still potentially send gas to Germany.  

According to some Kremlin trolls it can also be Ukraine. Maybe Ukraine rent a dolphin, a brave guy (Klitschko) with some dynamite swam on the back of the dolphin through Black Sea, Mediterranean Sea, half of the Atlantic, through the English Channel, past Denmark and Sweden just to the Baltic Sea to blow up the useless pipeline.
Surely, Ukraine would risk the support from the west for blowing up a useless pipeline...  

While Russia has a useless pipeline since German politicians have learned their lesson to abandon Putin and his gas. Since Putin invaded Ukraine, it was very clear that NordStream 2 would not be activated. While Putin continued his war crimes and now annexed 4 parts of Ukraine, it was very clear that Germany will stop purchasing Russian gas as soon as possible. Therefore, Putin run out of options what to do with his failed pipeling because Germany doesn't played his game and he looked bad.  
Surprinsingly, one Stream of NordStream 2 is still intact, leaving it open for Putin demanding Germany to open it.
Let me guess which stories are plausible and which not.  

But sure, the guy from Kremlin, who has lied basically every day, is not the one to blow up his useless pipeline and blame the west (as usual).
Idiots like you are his best asset - completely brainwashed...  

You are delusional, same as Putin.  
Your dumb takes are embarassing.  

The U.S. deputy ambassador, Robert Wood, said there was no need for a U.N. probe when investigations by Sweden, Denmark and Germany “are proceeding in a comprehensive, transparent and impartial manner.”

U.S. had intelligence of detailed Ukrainian plan to attack Nord Stream pipeline
Three months before saboteurs bombed the Nord Stream natural gas pipeline, the Biden administration learned from a close ally that the Ukrainian military had planned a covert attack on the undersea network...
Details about the plan, which have not been previously reported, were collected by a European intelligence service and shared with the CIA in June 2022. They provide some of the most specific evidence to date linking the government of Ukraine to the eventual attack in the Baltic Sea, which U.S. and Western officials have called a brazen and dangerous act of sabotage on Europe’s energy infrastructure.
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The European intelligence made clear that the would-be attackers were not rogue operatives. All those involved reported directly to Gen. Valery Zaluzhny, Ukraine’s highest-ranking military officer
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Keeping Zelensky out of the loop would have given the Ukrainian leader a plausible way to deny involvement in an audacious attack on civilian infrastructure that could ignite public outrage and jeopardize Western support for Ukraine — particularly in Germany
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Ukraine had long complained that Nord Stream would allow Russia to bypass Ukrainian pipes, depriving Kyiv of huge transit revenue.
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Investigators have matched explosive residue found on the pipeline to traces found inside the cabin of the yacht, called Andromeda. And they have linked Ukrainian individuals to the rental of the boat via an apparent front company in Poland. Investigators also suspect that at least one individual who serves in the Ukrainian military was involved in the sabotage operation.

No.It is because Russia continuously strikes civilian targets not later than yesterday killing an 10 year old girl.This is a response to Russian terror and it is only natural that Russia feels the same what Ukrainians are feeling because of Russian barbarism.The Russians claim they hit no civilian targets yet today they hit a dormitory in Kharkiv,luckily without dead persons.Russian have killed children,have made mass graves and systematically hit civilian targets in Ukrainian cities so it is only a natural response and what I find the most funny is terrorists (Russia are the true ones starting a war out of nowhere and killing civilians as a sign of desperation in the battlefield,stalled invasion) are calling the victim who tries to defend a terrorist  .

@Branko , the US clearly has ask for forgiveness although it is not worthy after the damage they have done yet they have spend billions in help rebuilding Iraq after then,not justifying them,it was a mistake and they ask for forgiveness.

How it is going with North Korea and Africa poor countries,the only nations which are still doing business with Russia,I hope well as even some delegations from Africa did not attend the Russia-Africa summit,from 43 just 17 delegations and they even call on Putin to revive the grain deal as soon as possible.

No matter how long it takes it has started and it will continue for as long as the zones are liberated meanwhile how are my fellow Moscow people enjoying the drones,yet there has not been casualties but very soon there will be and at a huge scale,just wait,that is what will make Russia people think that this war has also got to do with us and will remove their opinion so far that this war does not belong to us.

Obviously the question is not if is terrorism from Ukraine, but from the RF. It is obvious that you are judging with a double scale (and assuming that there is no loss of life when attacking a silo... a long shot).  It seem that the attack on the Ministry of defence is not terrorism at all by your (veeery peculiar definition).

Anyway, the Ruzzians are well past the border of terrorism since the beginning of the war, but you are going to deny and throw dirt on any proof, so I will just let the official institutions do their research  and then let you deny.

You have change your view on the effectiveness of weapons... not useless after all... good, good, ... now you just to get familiarised with the differences between and we then can talk again. A million possible escalations are possible from the Ukrainian side, simply because the aid is very limited in all aspects. Just read the Ukrainian requests to US and see how they are fine with using more and better weapons that do exist.

To your question, which I have answered in many posts - the fight has to continue until a result that guarantees a future stable peace is reached. It is no use to surrender "to save lives" if the conditions for the next invasion are setup. As of now, if Putin gets his way to a significant degree, there will be another war soon and then another...

But hey, I also have a peace plan, just like you! Until when should the RF army hold the occupied territories? Just leave and save all those lives you care so much about.

13.5.1.1 Captured Enemy Merchant Vessels – Notes on Terminology. A captured neutral or enemy merchant vessel is called a prize.
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13.5.1.3 Destruction of Captured Enemy Merchant Vessels. When military circumstances preclude sending or taking in such vessel or aircraft for adjudication as an enemy prize, it may be destroyed after all possible measures are taken to provide for the safety of passengers and crew. 86 Documents and papers relating to the prize should be safeguarded and, if practicable, the personal effects of passengers should be saved. Every case of destruction of a captured enemy prize should be reported promptly to higher command. The destruction of neutral prizes involves similar procedures, but a more serious responsibility.
13.5.2 Attack of Enemy Merchant Vessels. Enemy merchant vessels may be made the object of attack, outside neutral territory, if they constitute a military objective. In particular, enemy merchant vessels may be attacked and destroyed by warships, either with or without prior warning, in any of the following circumstances:
• persistently refusing to stop upon being duly summoned to do so;
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13.8.1 Belligerent Right to Establish Special Restrictions in the Immediate Area of Naval Operations. Within the immediate area or vicinity of naval operations, to ensure proper battle space management and self-defense objectives, a belligerent State may establish special restrictions upon the activities of neutral vessels and aircraft, and may prohibit altogether such vessels and aircraft from entering the area.

5.13 ATTACKS ON FACILITIES , WORKS , OR INSTALLATIONS CONTAINING DANGEROUS FORCES
Certain facilities containing dangerous forces, such as dams, nuclear power plants, or facilities producing weapons of mass destruction, may constitute military objectives. There may be a number of reasons for their attack, such as denial of electric power to military sources, use of a dangerous facility (e.g., by causing release from a dam) to damage or destroy other military objectives, or to pre-empt enemy release of the dangerous forces to hamper the movement or advance of U.S. or allied forces. Attack of facilities, works, or installations containing dangerous forces, such as dams, nuclear power plants, or facilities producing weapons of mass destruction, is permissible so long as it is conducted in accordance with other applicable rules, including the rules of discrimination and proportionality.

Trump calls for halt in military support for Ukraine

Former president Donald Trump wants Congress to withhold military aid for Ukraine until the Biden administration cooperates with congressional investigations into the business dealings of Biden's son, Hunter. Trump, speaking at a rally Saturday in Erie, Pennsylvania, said no additional weapon shipments should be authorized until the FBI, Justice Department and Internal Revenue Service provide "every scrap of evidence" they have of possible misbehavior by Biden family members. Trump threatened Republican lawmakers who didn’t join the effort with primary challenges...
“Congress should refuse to authorize a single additional shipment of our depleted weapons stockpiles … to Ukraine until the FBI, DOJ and IRS hand over every scrap of evidence they have on the Biden crime family’s corrupt business dealings,” Trump said at the rally.

Inflation is linked to interest rates. Ruzzia keeps inflation low by having nearly double interest rates. Now, stuff more graphs there, but try to understand the basics of economy first.

Let's get this clear: do you consider the attack on grain storages in Ukraine a terrorist act? A simple yes or no will suffice. I offer you a similar direct answer to any (non personal) similar question in exchange.

RE scalations, most of your assertions are false. ATACAMS have more range, more payload and are more difficult to intercept. The stormshadows are very obviously hitting high value targets, and I mean nearly every day,... You should try to read something that is not the official propaganda. The F-35 with some of the longer range rockets do not even need to get near to the front...

RE grain production in the US... well, your graph basically proves my point. US is a grain exporter and will benefit from higher prices. It is irrelevant if Ruzzia exports more or less, the price is the price. Look, seriously, just read ANY book on economy. You need them all.

Now, it seems that you are trying to deny any and all the capabilities built during decades by US and other... it just does not fly (note the pun), those weapons are effective like hell. The US has the potential to support Ukraine up by a factor of 10. They just do not want to - for now. Putin is nearly out of escalations other than nuclear, which he would loose (not that anyone wins in that case).

Latest thing, he is now promoting conflicts in Niger and Congo. But worry not, those will be dealt with in due time, first things first.

Anyway, while you theorise, reality is making a check on all that. Ukraine is moving at a faster pace and liberating some interesting bits of territory in the Zapo front. A trust towards Tohmak has become veeeeery posible. There are also some unconfirmed data on the lack of effectiveness of the "Surovikin line" of defence - there are not enough troops to actually defend it.

Oh, BTW, you are still thinking that somehow Europe has heating problems? Have you not read anything in the last year? Europe simply buys the gas from US an Norway, the countries affected are those that cannot pay the price.

Ukraine's Counteroffensive Needs a Plan B
America’s “Plan A” in Ukraine is on life support.
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They posited that even if Ukraine ultimately proved incapable of driving Russian forces off all of Ukraine’s territory, the counteroffensive would give Kyiv significant leverage at the diplomatic table.
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Some six weeks into the Ukrainian counteroffensive, things are not going as planned. Although damage estimates vary, Ukraine has lost significant numbers of men and weapons, while making negligible progress against formidable Russian defenses.  

Despite vigorous recruiting and conscription efforts, Ukraine has too few soldiers to muster the three-to-one manpower advantage generally considered necessary for a successful offensive. Its supplies of artillery shells and anti-aircraft missiles, vital to battlefield success, are dwindling. As a result, Russia’s air force—which was sparingly used last year in the face of effective Ukrainian air defenses—is now operating more actively near the front lines, devastating Ukraine’s attacking forces.  

Finger-pointing for this failure is already underway. Increasingly, Ukrainian officials openly blame the West for not providing enough armor, aircraft, artillery, missiles, and ammunition. Anonymous American officials blame the Ukrainians for not conducting Western-style combined arms operations to outmaneuver and outpace their plodding Russian opponents.
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But even such an extensive transformation would still not resolve Ukraine’s critical gap in this war: air power. According to the Congressional Research Service, Ukraine’s air force has 132 aircrafts, compared to 1,391 in Russia’s.  Providing Ukraine with a couple of dozen F-16 fighters, whose complex maintenance requirements make the aircraft ill-suited for conditions in Ukraine, will hardly bridge that gap.  As Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Mark Milley, told Politico in May, “There are no magic weapons in war, F-16s are not, and neither is anything else.”
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if coupled with a diplomatic approach that incentivizes Russia to end the fighting rather than prolong it to keep Ukraine out of NATO, it could well prompt Russia to aim to secure its still quite limited gains through a negotiated end to the war. It is time to try.

Your statements do not merit anything else.


Facts - You argue that a drone hitting a commercial building near the Ministry is terror, but the attack on food storages is ok. Why would I need to make an effort to rebate that, you are doing great on your own.

The complaints of eastern European farmers were already there even during the grain deal, so is not a result of breaking it. The solution is simple: Ukrainian grain would only be for export, not for local markets. It is a mere regulatory issue.

Ruzzia is already a grain exporter. But let me ask you: If the grain from Ukraine to China is replaced with grain from Ruzzia... what happens to the price of grain inside Ruzzia? If you ask me, the RF citizens are going to pay extra and is not a luxury product, it is the most basic food. I hope they feel glorious about it.

A deal has two sides. It is not that Ruzzia is creating hunger, is that by not reaching an agreement grain prices will be higher. Everywhere, including those places in which the price will not be affordable. Casually, many of those countries are friendly to the Ruzzian cause... for now.

As for the economic effect in US, it will be positive, they produce grain like crazy and now they can sell it more expensive.

Regarding Europe, the cost of food is not really a concern. Production and demand are quite controlled.



Inflation:
Are you clueless about what inflation is? You just throw there some economic non-facts and then say I am not doing enough effort to rebate? Gee dude... you need to try to have some self-criticism.

This is not about coverage, this is about the interest rates (currently 8.5%, previously at 20%) that the RF has to keep so that they do not spiral into hyperinflation. The only person with a brain in the whole Ruzzian government is Nabiullina, but she can only do what she can. You know what is paying a mortgage nowadays at nearly 10%, that is more than double than 2 just two years ago?

That is inflation.


Escalations:

Oh my friend, the "available escalations" are endless... ATACMS, F-35s, more F-16s, more Abrahms, ... The only reason this is not happening is because the US is absolutely fine with Ruzzia fighting this war and self-demilitarising the Soviet arsenals without any US soldier killed. The game of proxies is so old.

I have said it over and over, there is a winner to this, but is not Ruzzia, is not Germany, is not Poland and is not Ukraine (may be in the future, not as of now).

 And China too -  cheap oil right when they are in a crisis.

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You are wrong in all your statements. See, you do not have to look for anything.

My own statement does not justify attacking non-critical infrastructure nor acts of terrorism (which would be veeeery easy to carry out by Ukraine if they wanted). While it might even be a false flag, the fact is that the Ruzzian Mod is 300 meters from there. My statement signifies that an attack on a legitimate target in Moscow may open the eyes of many to the sad reality: their government cannot even defend itself and this war is not something happening at 1000 clicks away.

If you deflect a drone it will land in another place. If you are in Moscow that "other place" is likely to be inhabited by humans. If the Ruzzians use a system that protects the Ministry by making drones fall in the vicinity means that they would rather protect the Ministry than other inhabited buildings in the surroundings.

And now that you understand why you are wrong and I am right, shall we talk about throwing missiles to grain silos as terror?

As an alternative I suggest talking about inflation in Ruzzia. Another interesting topic.

Strong minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, weak minds discuss people.

... or the gox coins distribution

You are wrong, as usual. The drone attacks in Moscow were heading to the Ministry of defence. The MOd is a legitimate target as it is considered a key infrastructure that directly support the war effort of the RF. The systems that the RF uses to prevent this deflects and redirects the drones by interfering with them so they crash somewhere else nearby (at 300 meters to be precise), so you are accusing the RF of terrorism against the RF. Now that I think of it, you are right.

Seriously speaking, there is little incentive for Ukraine to just hit some random building in Moscow. It just does not make sense - even if it was actually Ukraine (I have not seen official confirmation).

Also as usual, no comment on the attacks at Odessa, which actually were not directed to any military or war related infrastructure, so ... yeah, speaking of redefining terms.

And yet another gaffe - yes terrorism actually does depend if you are defending yourself: Example: The RF is not at war with the UK, but they send two guys to kill someone living in the UK. That is terrorism. If you are at war and that person is a military, is not - it is a legitimate target.

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/07/23/europe/ukraine-russia-drone-attacks-hit-moscow-intl-hnk/index.html


If you ask me, Russians have to understand that war is not that stuff that happens in the TV, but something that can actually go kaboom in you door. This may help.

terrorism, the calculated use of violence to create a general climate of fear in a population and thereby to bring about a particular political objective.

It is not terrorism when you defend yourself and Ukraine has never mass killed civilians like Russian barbarians have done in Bucha,Irpin and Kharkiv.The Ukrainian army has never hit a maternity hospital killing innocent people,they have never bombed theater where it was clearly written "CHILDREN" in Russian language so what can justify these actions from Russian aggression and lately they even hit a Unesco heritage site in Ukraine,they commit a horrendous war crime every day.

As for the square kilometers,Ukraine has reclaimed more than 50% of territories that they lost in the early stages of invasion,they will liberate every single inch of territory until Ukraine wins.

@OgNasty, if you do not like "paying for this war" (I wonder if you have noticed that many "pay" with their lives)... if you do not like paying this I say, just figure out how much would you need to pay if going back to the Cold War. That is expensive, and much more since you have a much bigger China.

US, Europe an Russia have had the dividend of peace, but you should not take that for granted if RF "wins" or looks to "win".

So how does it feel for Russians to see two drones striking some buildings in the center of Moscow?I am sure they like it and Ukrainian counter offensive is going slowly but gradually having liberated another 16.4 km square in the south front last week.I don't understand the press statement of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Russia that name the attack as a terrorist attack by the Kyiv regime when in fact Russia is applying terror against Ukraine more than 1.5 year now,this is just plain Ukrainian response to terror and they should gain momentum and hit even further so Russian start thinking if the war is worth continuing or not as they are not getting anything.

Oh, I see. So if an US ship and a Turquiyan ship decide to go to Odessa, the RF fleet in the Black Sea will go there and stop them / sink them? And then nothing will happen and no retaliation will take place because "the RF has decided to blockade". Is that what you mean? Is that how this plays out in your mind? So no more "smoking in the wrong place" accidents as a result?

Anyway, this is more a marketing campaign more than anything else, possibly to distract from the situation in Bakhmut.

After everything what Russia already did in Ukraine I should be sorry about death of Russians. Hmmmm, no. But unlike some lowlife Russian scumbags I don't celebrate death of people when they hit apartment buildings, hospital or shop.

Oh really, Russia didn't even started seriously and they haven't took Kyiv in 3 days just because they don't want.

Of course Branko, everyone is useful for the mission right?


Nah, CCP government has no more resilience than the USSR did - do you remember or were you busy when it collapsed?

China as any nation has interests and can be pressured and convinced (I think more convinced than pressured) if it is in their interest. China does not have any more attachment to the RF that it would to any other instrument, party, country or organisation.

What I think is that China needs a strong Russia, to balance the US, and a balanced Russia that does threat with Nukes as a system of living (e.g. North Korea). Russia is not helping at all in any of these.

China is relatively organised and is using the opportunity to look like a mediator and a country of peace.

It has become a long term conflict, or at least it seems to becoming one, sadly.
The only thing about it which I would call positive is the fact that Russia alone cannot hold a long term battle against Ukraine alone, for now the Klemlin depends on the support of their biggest ally: The popular Republic of China.

If someone USA convinced or pressured Chine to stop their military and economical aid to Putin, then Russia would have it very difficult to continue their attacks, they already are getting in trouble economically being their cheap offer of energy a sample of it, in my opinion.

Id wish this non-sense stopped right now, if possible...