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1801  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Possible to get refund from BFL? (paid via Bitcoin) on: August 21, 2013, 08:50:16 AM
Ill write on article how you can get a refund from BFL tomorrow.

I know for a FACT that BFL fucked up, and as required by state law. They ether  send you the item or issue you a refund. Therefore making them liable and  you could sue them for profit lost.

Ill write it tomorrow...

Eagerly waiting for it.
1802  Economy / Exchanges / Re: MtGox withdrawal delays [Gathering] on: August 21, 2013, 08:38:51 AM
Right now I'm not able to withdrawal my Bitcoin balance from mtgox - it says "Invalid bitcoin address, please confirm your input" - but I am 100% certian it is a valid Bitcoin address.

Yep, it happened a couple of days ago to me too. I contacted chat support, they told me to try again in a couple of hours, I tried and it worked.
1803  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: my wallets were stolen just now, can any one help me? on: August 21, 2013, 07:49:45 AM
There should be a better solution then stop using Windows, how else are non technical people gonna adapt Bitcoin?

I work with non technical people and I convinced them to leave windows for good 4/5 years ago. Most of them went to OSX and bought macbooks, a couple of them chose Linux (specifically Ubuntu and Linux Mint, which I'd say are even easier to use than Windows). All of them say they would NEVER go back to Windoze.
1804  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon Store Batch 3 Status just went to "Refunded" -- now "Refund Processing" on: August 21, 2013, 07:45:41 AM
Not a single refund yet. Bitsyncom, care to explain what is going on?
1805  Economy / Exchanges / Re: MtGox withdrawal delays [Gathering] on: August 20, 2013, 06:25:49 PM
Requested 10,000 EUR on 8/8/2013 via SEPA transfer, received 9,900 EUR on 20/8/2013.

Mt.Gox took 1% apparently (100 EUR) - I wasn't aware of that.

Still waiting for 2 more such withdrawals.

I have a Trusted Account with verified banks in the Euro Zone.

I usually receive 9,915€ for those - I guess it's not only Gox, there are other parties taking commissions.

I guess so. I find it bit strange. When I wire 10,000 to Mt.Gox it only costs 1.20 EUR instead of 100 EUR. I guess their bank's withdrawals have different rates. I thought the EUR SEPA zone was supposed to get rid of these costs.

Anyway, of course I'm very happy to receive funds.

Thanks for posting good news for a change. It looks like +10,000€ wires indeed clear faster.
1806  Economy / Exchanges / Re: MtGox withdrawal delays [Gathering] on: August 20, 2013, 05:58:21 PM
Requested 10,000 EUR on 8/8/2013 via SEPA transfer, received 9,900 EUR on 20/8/2013.

Mt.Gox took 1% apparently (100 EUR) - I wasn't aware of that.

Still waiting for 2 more such withdrawals.

I have a Trusted Account with verified banks in the Euro Zone.

I usually receive 9,915€ for those - I guess it's not only Gox, there are other parties taking commissions.
1807  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: 490,000 Avalon chips already ordered - 150T hashrate spike coming in August on: August 20, 2013, 05:38:19 PM
check out

https://blockchain.info/address/16ygEoTjg7P5GJwLKTQd1UgqAGuF8bKVRc

10k BTC just came out of avalons account to this address, check out its history

Do you see anything strange in it?
1808  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Miner's Official Coin LAUNCH - NUGGETS (NUGs) on: August 20, 2013, 05:36:40 PM
Thank you anonymous friend for this nugget: http://altcha.in/address/NgAKAr3Vw9she1o6g1kZCoQENhuNbjiFn8
I swear to GOD that I will use it to do great things


Ahahahaaaaa.  Somebody game you one whole NUG?  Bah ahahhahahaaa.

What a cheapskate.  Don't ever go on a date with that cheapo.  Lol!

I never go on a date with broke guys anyway

But you DO blow on the first date, right? You know Vlad is kinda of guy and doesn't like that.
1809  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Assault weapon bans on: August 20, 2013, 04:51:27 PM
And BTW, just to finish the Switzerland digression: the vast majority of firearms in possesion of Swiss citizens are directly provided by the State, with always sealed ammunition to be opened only in case of exercise or war.

Isn't that the best and cheapest way to protect a country? In USA, we don't have a government giving out guns to everyone. On the contrary, people are freaking out that some other people even HAVE guns. I think it would be great if US was like Switzerland, and everyone was properly trained on firearms use, and given guns and ammo. But since that's not happening, people have to resort to the next best thing, and acquire them themselves.

I for one wouldn't accept any kind of military training, as I didn't when it was mandatory in my country.

If I'd live in a place where I'd feel that I need to carry a firearm because the risk of being murdered by another firearm is too high, I would just fucking move. I don't give a shit about countries, flags and whatnot, so there is nothing making me to stay in one place if I feel that my family could be in danger, and I know for sure I don't want my kids growing around firearms.

I guess we have different approaches to the same problem (insecurity).
1810  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Assault weapon bans on: August 20, 2013, 04:40:09 PM
Maybe you should do a nice trip to Switzerland, stay one month, and try to understand what is the relationship of its population with their guns, maybe you would be surprised.

I lived in Switzerland for two weeks. I was surprised to see military rifles being carried in the open, especially by security at the airports.

Military rifles are carried in the open by security/police in many countries in the world, especially in airports. In every country in the world you have "government thugs" and security employees carrying guns, nothing to be surprised about.
1811  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Assault weapon bans on: August 20, 2013, 04:37:38 PM
Maybe you should do a nice trip to Switzerland, stay one month, and try to understand what is the relationship of its population with their guns, maybe you would be surprised.

I lived in Switzerland for two weeks. I was surprised to see military rifles being carried in the open, especially by security at the airports. Also, from what I've read and understood, "neutral" only worked while the country crossing over you wasn't interested in you. I come from a "neutral" country, Ukraine, which was only "neutral" until either the Nazis wanted to control it, or the Soviets. So I don't think just them saying "Hey, we're neutral" was what spared Switzerland. Perhaps Switzerland claiming they were "neutral" was just a reuse, and they were really ok with Nazis using them, but didn't want anyone else to know *shrug*

Huh?

Ukraine was not a sovereign country during IIWW.

Again, thinking that Switzerland role in IIWW is somewhat related with their gun policy is way beyond retarded.
1812  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Assault weapon bans on: August 20, 2013, 04:33:38 PM
And BTW, just to finish the Switzerland digression: the vast majority of firearms in possesion of Swiss citizens are directly provided by the State, with always sealed ammunition to be opened only in case of exercise or war. In Switzerland you won't see huge "gun centers" where retards gather on weekends to buy the newest ammo or the last model of the semi automatic rifle.

Again, the immense majority of firearms in circulation are just 3/4 types of firearm, army-issued weapons, you will see no thriving "gun" market and most important, no one in Switzerland is allowed to carry a firearm unless a) they work in security related jobs or b) they are en route to training with their unit. They just have to store them at home as it is their military duty.

Really don't get why some US libertarians take Switzerland as an example - it is one of the most regulated (in a "liberal" way) countries in the world.
1813  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Assault weapon bans on: August 20, 2013, 04:19:39 PM
Because nobody sane in Europe is proud of IIWW, in fact is one of the darkest moments of the last Century. Millions of people were butchered. Pretty obvious stuff.

So you had a very dark time, when the population was disarmed, and some very nasty people with guns came in to occupy and butcher people without guns. Then those nasty gun-totin' people were eventually kicked out when other good people with guns came to fight them off. And the lesson you guys learn is that it's best to disarm the population again? So that if any more nasty people with guns come, you'll once again be helpless? Why not take your lessons from Switzerland, which was practically the only country no one wanted to mess with, and just keep yourselves armed?

Wow, Rassah, I'm sorry but you are demonstrating a total lack of knowledge of what you are talking about. Your claim regarding Switzerland is laughable at best (but I feel is pitiful because I'm sure many US "pro-guns" would agree on such a complete nonsense), the III Reich army could have crushed a country like Switzerland in one second, they were "spared" because they were neutral.

Also Spain, Portugal and Sweden were "spared", just because like Switzerland they where neutral countries and not of strategic interest (at least in that stage) for the Axis. In fact, the strategic interest of neutral countries is crucial. You usually do not "mess" with a neutral country in a world war scenario simply because "neutral" does not mean only "I will not attack you", means also "I will export goods to your country, you can commerce here, spy, and I can serve as a safe place for refugees of all the parts". In the case of Switzerland, it also meant "everybody can sell me their gold if they need liquidity", which is a very useful asset in a world war scenario.

Last but not least, the German army didn't showed much fear when they violated Swiss airspace hundreds of times despite of the continuous diplomatic complaints and the immense pressure of the Allies for this to stop (there were threats of Switzerland to be considered an Axis territory if Nazi planes continued to cross their airspace). I could go on forever but I would digress, I just tried to quickly show you how completely wrong is your vision about why Switzerland has not been involved in IIWW (and BTW, they weren't neither in IWW)...

Maybe you should do a nice trip to Switzerland, stay one month, and try to understand what is the relationship of its population with their guns, maybe you would be surprised.
1814  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Incoming Avalon News 8/9/2013 on: August 20, 2013, 04:02:13 PM

Probably very accurate. Numbers don't lie, and Bitsyncom has more or less confirmed that amount.
1815  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon Store Batch 3 Status just went to "Refunded" -- now "Refund Processing" on: August 20, 2013, 04:00:52 PM
Quote from: Avalon ASIC Newsletter
story so far - 8/19

chips have arrived via other routes as previously announced, we are shipping them out at the rate of 40-50k on a daily basis at the moment, in addition to the ~150k or so that went out, another 40k was shipped today. There is multiple channel which the chips are arriving from various packaging facility to minimize downtime. Please bare this in mind: while we had backup/multiple packaging companies and various delivery routes, things still will go wrong. There is also testing that must be done, then they can split, packed and sent to the EZP coupled with their CN-22 and be on their way. We will provide more update as they come. In addition, the trade-in and refunds are being processed.

Emphasis mine; looks like good news!


Well, that update was made some hours ago and no one reported yet a refund, so let me doubt about "refunds are being processed". Maybe they forgot the word "soon" at the end of the sentence.
1816  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: August 20, 2013, 03:59:47 PM
Some important info is expected to be revealed about the fed tapering issue tomorrow - what do you guys think the outcome will be? Will the fed effectively taper or not in september?

I'd say that if we see a significant movement in the market prior to the announcement, then it will indeed be (somewhat) relevant.
1817  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Assault weapon bans on: August 20, 2013, 03:58:21 PM
for many americans, guns are a liberation tool that made them free in recent history, that's a deeply rooted thought

Uh, that was the revolutionary war, and that was not recent history. That was a very very long time ago.

On the other hand, guns are a liberation tool that made everyone in Europe free just 70 years ago. How come Europeans don't like guns, even though they got their freedom thanks to them much more recently?

70 years ago? Who gained independence in 1943?

Wait, is this a serious question? (and sorry, I was rounding, it was 1945)

I'm not sure how you define "free" but central and eastern Europe were occupied by the USSR.

Spain, Portugal, Switzerland and the UK were never occupied. I'm guessing Andorra wasn't either but I don't even know if it existed back then.

France and Italy fought on the side of the Axis, and were defeated by the Allies, so they weren't exactly "freed".

Only a few countries were "freed".

Well, everybody could acknowledge that both the USA and the USSR played a significant role in saving Europe from the Nazis thanks to the immense fire power of their armies, so it could be argued that thanks to guns Europe could get rid of Hitler, but its simply retarded as you can argue back that the German guns were what was slaughtering them in first instance. Pretty much a pointless and dumb argument if you ask me.
1818  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: August 20, 2013, 03:52:44 PM
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An economist would say that the bid sum is clearly on a trajectory to infinity, and the ask sum to zero  

Or "healthy amount of fiat in the order book, but supply of coins declining fast" - that should take the Gox price higher. If and when it touches $130ish at Gox, and if the spread with Bitstamp is still 15% of higher, I will try for sure some arbitrage. The opportunity is too big not to try.

It's gonna touch $130  Grin
TBH I don't think $130-$136 is such-  big deal ... might take a couple of days to push through it, but S3052 and Vokain's Head and Shoulder Bottom is totally in play now, which would give target of about $160. Given the supply constraints and the constant buying pressure that could play out relatively quickly.

Definitely worth an arbitrage shot. I'll sell, ask for a withdrawal and see if it clears out quickly. If it does, there is a ton of money in arbitrage to be done.

Don't understand why you don't just ask for a (small) withdrawal now if you want to test Gox. Or are you assuming that a bigger one will clear quicker and you don't want to move that much out right now ?

Exactly. Back in the day, when I started using Gox, I "tested" it with a 100€ withdraw. That indeed took longer (10 business days or so at least), plus I had the unpleasant surprise to receive into my account only 65€ because of the various fees. But at least I touched with my hands they were "legit". Moths after that (post bubble obviously, after the big profits were met) I started making bigger and bigger withdraws, and they cleared super-fast. Heck, during the Dwolla aftermath with everybody complaining about huge SEPA delays I made 3 separate withdraws: 2 of them arrived to my account in 2 days and one of them in 3 days. To shut up the "I don't believe you" crowd and to be ready in case somebody wishes to bet I'm a liar I just posted the exact dates here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=179586.msg2970683#msg2970683

I will quote them here too:

Quote
WITHDRAW 1: requested June 3th, received on June 6th
WITHDRAW 2: requested June 4th, received on June 6th
WITHDRAW 3: requested June 9th, received on June 11th

So, if I'm going to take the risk to test how fast is Gox 2 months later my last withdraw to make arbitrage, I want to do it for a good profit - plus my experience tells me the bigger is the withdraw, the faster it clears. Thus for me there is no point in making arbitrage with less than 5 figures, not worth the hassle of the wait nor the money you lose in withdraw fixed fees with the different banks, etc.

Hey Rampion, tell me if your withdrawal from Gox takes now a few working days please. Because i'm waiting for a 900€ withdrawal since 15 of july (more than a month now), so if yours arrives first there is something i don't understand in all of this.

Regards.

I'll try if we break $130 consistently and the spread with Bitstamp is %15 or higher - if the conditions are met I'll report back for sure.
1819  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Assault weapon bans on: August 20, 2013, 03:49:20 PM
for many americans, guns are a liberation tool that made them free in recent history, that's a deeply rooted thought

Uh, that was the revolutionary war, and that was not recent history. That was a very very long time ago.


I wouldn't say that 200 and something years is "very very long time ago" when talking about history... But I guess you can consider it "very very long time ago" if your country was born just 200 and something years ago.

for many americans, guns are a liberation tool that made them free in recent history, that's a deeply rooted thought

On the other hand, guns are a liberation tool that made everyone in Europe free just 70 years ago. How come Europeans don't like guns, even though they got their freedom thanks to them much more recently?

Because nobody sane in Europe is proud of IIWW, in fact is one of the darkest moments of the last Century. Millions of people were butchered. Pretty obvious stuff.

for many americans, guns are a liberation tool that made them free in recent history, that's a deeply rooted thought

Uh, that was the revolutionary war, and that was not recent history. That was a very very long time ago.

On the other hand, guns are a liberation tool that made everyone in Europe free just 70 years ago. How come Europeans don't like guns, even though they got their freedom thanks to them much more recently?

70 years ago? Who gained independence in 1943?

And a lot of them do like their guns. In some European countries you're forced into the military.

You will not see any significant/relevant pro-gun movement in most of Europe. We could say that gun-nuts exist in Europe, but they are pretty voiceless and considered just crazy nutjobs. In the US gun-nuts have a very loud voice, and they consider themselves as a pillar of their community, a representation of the will of their beloved founding fathers.
1820  Economy / Exchanges / Re: MtGox withdrawal delays [Gathering] on: August 20, 2013, 03:35:46 PM
WITHDRAW 1: requested June 3th, received on June 6th
WITHDRAW 2: requested June 4th, received on June 6th
WITHDRAW 3: requested June 9th, received on June 11th

So, what about that?

In early June I had two withdrawals, which were executed within days. But all the others have lasted much longer. You've just had luck. Thats all. Be happy.  Smiley

The withdraw issues didn't start happening until June 20th (hiatus on USD withdraws). So both of your comments about successful withdraws are irrelevant. The funny thing is that not only are USD withdraws affected, but now EUR, CAD, are being affected as well.  

What are you talking about? Just check this very thread, the OP is from mid-April and there are TONS of people complaining regarding wires (especially SEPA) that were experiencing big delays. Some quotes from the days in which I requested and successfully received my withdrawals:

I've been waiting for my 1000 € for 33 days now. It still says "up to 3 weeks" on their site (and it said 2 weeks around the time I made the withdraw).

I've been waiting 5 weeks for my SEPA withdrawal, I see I'm not alone.

If I don't get the money in a week I'm going to let debt collectors handle it. It's better I get half the money with debt collectors taking half as fees than nothing at all.


I requested a SEPA withdrawal two weeks ago.
First my withdrawal was in status "pending", a few days later in "confirmed" - and now it's back again in "pending".

I am still waiting for my money.

WTF!?



And the list goes on, just check this very thread and make a forum search, you will see that there was already MANY complaints those days (some context: just few days earlier happened the Liberty Reserve shutdwon and 10/15 days earlier the Dwolla situation). Yes, the "USD hiatus" didn't happen yet, but I read the very same complains about people waiting many weeks, while it seems big volume traders (mrbigg; epsiking) report they are receiving their money without too much wait. I don't see how the SEPA picture could change after the "USD hiatus", in fact it looks pretty much the same: some people waiting +5 weeks until they have to cancel the withdraw and buy BTC (see sd quoted above, after 5 weeks and a half he finally canceleed and bought BTC), and some people probably receiving their money with no issues.

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