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1821  Other / Meta / [Results 2022] Bitcointalk Community Awards 🏆 on: February 01, 2023, 08:46:07 PM



   


Hero of Good


theymos (87), LoyceV (32), The Sceptical Chymist (14), Hhampuz (14), DdmrDdmr (9), Cyrus (8 ), fillippone (7), CryptopreneurBrainboss (6), 1miau (4), JayJuanGee (4), DarkStar_ (3), El duderino_ (3)




Golden Feather

fillippone (53), LoyceV (26), Hhampuz (22), JayJuanGee (21), o_e_l_e_o (18), yahoo2278 (14), The Sceptical Chymist (12), DdmrDdmr (11), CryptopreneurBrainboss (9), Plutosky (9), El duderino_ (6), minerjones (5), suchmoon (5), theymos (5), 1miau (4), hugeblack (4), Ratimov (4), gbianchi (3), gmaxwell (3), icopress (3)





Bitcointalk Ninja


TryNinja (61), LoyceV (43), DdmrDdmr (35), suchmoon (13), fillippone (7), ibminer (6), gbianchi (5), The Sceptical Chymist (5), bitbollo (4), o_e_l_e_o (3), hugeblack (3), JayJuanGee (3), Paolo.Demidov (3), PowerGlove (3), yahoo2278 (3)




Bitcoin Geek

o_e_l_e_o (56), achow101 (15), JayJuanGee (14), gmaxwell (12), pooya87 (11), LoyceV (10), NotATether (9), n0nce (8 ), babo (7), dkbit98 (7), ETFbitcoin (7), LFC_Bitcoin (6), yogg (5), BitcoinGirl.Club (4), BlackHatCoiner (4), DdmrDdmr (4), gbianchi (4), hugeblack (4), igor72 (4), DaveF (3), nc50lc (3)




Discovery
of the Year

PowerGlove (77), n0nce (15), citb0oin (7), NotATether (4), icopress (3), mendace (3), PrivacyG (3), CoinEraser (3), hymperion (3), Ratimov (3)




SpamBuster

GazetaBitcoin (50), Ratimov (43), lovesmayfamilis (31), The Sceptical Chymist (9), Welsh (9), Lafu (8 ), mprep (8 ), actmyname (7), BitcoinGirl.Club (3), Jolly Good (3), SFR10 (3)




ScamBuster

lovesmayfamilis (52), examplens (21), SFR10 (15), Ratimov (13), bitbollo (7), nutildah (7), Lafu (6), GazetaBitcoin (5), suchmoon (5), LoyceV (4), Poker Player (4), Rikafip (4), The Sceptical Chymist (4), ChiBitCTy (3), dkbit98 (3), icopress (3), JollyGood (3), YOSHIE (3)



 


Craft Master


Jayce (45), Hhampuz (37), icopress (26), CryptoBrainboss (14), Maus0728 (11), giammangiato (9), willi9974 (8 ), fillippone (7), 1miau (6), yahoo2278 (6), Royse777 (4), BlackHatCoiner (3), Liquidoptions (3), MoparMiningLLC (3), Rikafip (3), taufik123 (3)





Antihero


Royse777 (48), franky1 👿 (13), JollyGood (8 ), naim027 (7), Hhampuz (3)





Miss Bitcointalk


Foxpup 🦊 (47), lovesmayfamilis (22), suchmoon (13), BitcoinGirl.Club (12), sheenshane (6), SatoPrincess (5), 5Ksana_HandMade (4), LoyceV (4), yahoo2278 (3)





Event of the Year


🎃 BitcoinTalk Pumpkin Carving Contest 🎃 (63), BitcoinTalk Community Awards 🏆 (15), FTX collapse (13), Bitcoin Pizza Day (12), Bitcoincleanup.com (12), Hodlonaut's win (7), Ukraine (6), Elon and Twitter (5)




Fail of the Year

FTX collapse (90), Luna collapse (28), Adoption of CEXs (9), CSW (5), TheBitcoinTalkShow (5), Hodlonaut's win (4), Sam Bankman-Fried (4), BTC Price (3), Putin (3), Russia/Ukraine War (3)



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  • List of unaccounted nominees and votes

Code:
BTC_Mouse, burugcrypto, PaperWallet, ShafixNero, Popkon6, halim50_, Rbolisna, Atikah92, satoshi, Lauda, asu

  • List of nominees with less than 3 votes

Code:
hilariousandco, creep_o, HostFat, kano, phantastich, tranthidung, Mitchell, d5000, HagssFIN, stompix, HCP, arulbero, DireWolfM14, EFS, FP91G,
garlonicon, Husna QA, mocacinno, NeuroticFish, NotFuzzyWarm, philipma1957, Pmalek, ranochigo, sabotag3x, Zlatan, albert0bsd, Agbe, Ale88, BitGoba, darxiaomi,
Hispo, m.lov, Porfirii, Queentoshi, RickDeckard, serhack, Skot, turtlecute, Igebotz, Csmiami, alexrossi, conilmionome, Lillominato89, mendace, MindlessElectron,
mole0815, TheBeardedBaby, The Cryptovator, holydarkness, Rizzrack, Timelord2067, $crypto$, Amph, Dave1, duesoldi, FatFork, lucius, ScamViruS, Shasan, Stalker22,
cygan, jack0m, jeremypwr, LegendaryK, xhomer10, CR02, cryptofrka, irfan_pak10, MrCryptHodl, Shahzadafzal, so98nn, Trofo, Yatsan, BADecker, FortuneJack,
larry_vw_1955, MikeJ_NpC, QuestionAuthority, Quickseller, nullius, Lesbian Cow, BitcoinBunny, Disruptivas, Fattcatt, Helena Yu, Majestic_milf, mk4, Sandra_hakeem, womanderful





Statistics:
  • this year we had 166 unique users nominated for 10 categories. Excepting them, some were also nominated as being event or fail of the year Oo
  • the greatest number of nominations received by a user was 87
  • the biggest difference between a first place and a second place was 62 votes
  • franky1 tried to abuse the system, by meriting 2 of those who nominated him as antihero, in order to have less votes at this category (facepalm)
  • some users had their votes denied for breaking the "no-merit rule" (such examples are minerjones, which has 2 votes unaccounted, for giving merits to those nominating him (link 1, link 2) or ChiBitCTy, which has one vote denied, for same reason (link))
  • votes of Atikah92, BTC_Mouse, burugcrypto, PaperWallet, Popkon6, halim50_ and Rbolisna were not counted, as they have less than 50 merits
  • 5 votes for satoshi, 4 for Lauda and 1 for asu were also not counted, due to their inactivity
  • some mentions of event / fail of the year were also not counted, as they written with words which did not make any sense ("FAILED TO EARN AND HOLD 1btc", "Situación Actual", "Cancel Culture on social media", "Some exchanges are at war", "Get Your Funds Out of Exchange", "BUY THE DIP AND HODL")
  • some votes for nominees which had their name written wrong were merged together (Lafu & Lafu01, Majestic_milf & Majestic_miff, The Sceptical Chymist & The Pharmacist, Timelord2067 & TimeLord, fillippone & Phillippone etc.)
1822  Other / Meta / Re: [WALL OF FAME] # Save your Postcount #Merit #Activity #Rank #Trust on: February 01, 2023, 08:43:06 PM
Good job shasan with this topic! I also had in mind to create it but I was not sure if I'll have time to take good care about it. I am glad to see you followed my suggestion and created a revamped thread for post records.  I hope you have more free time than me and be able to update it from time to time.

And, while waiting you to update OP with the screenshots from the old thread, let me be first one who posts a record inside the new thread Smiley It's a pic from my l33t moment, but which was not posted in the old thread due to OP's lack of activity.



I saved this record of mine as it happens once in a lifetime Smiley
1823  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Should BTC amounts greater than 10.000E be declared when leaving the country? on: February 01, 2023, 08:35:12 PM
Back to declaring Bitcoin at customs: if you say you travel with 100,000 dollar worth of Bitcoin, even though you have no intention to spend it all, I wonder how they react. My guess is they find it kinda suspicious.
I think it would raise suspicions

Now you see how ironic the law is? If you want to act honestly and declare a big amount you'd look suspicious. If you don't declare it and you get caught they'll rob your money and start a criminal investigation against you. So what to do? Smiley

So if he would have carried gold of only 99%, he would have been fine?

Loooool, according tu EU law, yes. He would have been fine also if he tried to smuggle fake gold bars or ones with only 50-60% gold, even if he was smuggling them only to scam. But they were not 99.5% so he were safe =)))



also no problem with gold in the form of powder, foil, coins with a gold content of more than 90% and gold bullion

Looool I am sure that no custom officer would ever stop to ask you at the border if you are carrying a few gold bullions. It's perfectly normal to have (at least) one in each pocket =)))



There goes my plan trafficking McDonalds coupons for fast food arbitrage.

Fast food arbitrage? =))) Now that's an appealing idea I may try once!.



Doesn't matter a lot because the countries don't decide. They have to obey to the european rules. Countries are just the puppets of EU

And eu says
https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/travel/carry/carrying-cash/index_fr.htm

In a justice court, you will win by saying you respected the EU rules instead the local ones.

Yup, that's right. It's possible they did not update the website after last update made by European Union. Besides, the French website mentioned digital currency, not cryptocurrency... anyway this could be a debate about semantics. In any case, it seems there is no specification for declaring crypto at the border...
1824  Economy / Reputation / Re: [Discussion] Bitcointalk Community Awards 🏆 on: February 01, 2023, 08:11:44 PM
The user hasn't been banned, but hasn't posted either, so there could be a temporary ban.

Umm.. seeing that he just posted below your post I believe he was not banned, or not yet. Let's see how things will develop though... If he's lucky enough he'll end up just with having one post deleted, which is not hard to live with. However, even if it will be so, I think he learned his lesson.



I apologize for my unintentional mistake which was not made with the intention of gaining any advantage. It was simply due to my laziness and I would be grateful if you could forgive me.

Just curious though: why did you make the post? Since you had clearly absolutely no reason to vote (otherwise you would certainly spend some time to think about who to nominate) why did you make that post?

Excepting the above question, have you ever considered of implications of such behavior in case dozens of users would do it? Imagine someone would nominate multiple users which would not deserve to be nominated and after that a dozen copy-paste his vote. This could lead to (1) having an incorrect winner (or more) and / or (2) to have the one counting votes spending a lot of precious time in vain, just to analyze copy-pasted votes in order to not count them.

Seriously, why act like this? For what purpose?
1825  Other / Meta / I intend to create a new topic for users offering escrow services on: February 01, 2023, 07:57:38 PM
I thought for a while now (while = some months) about creating a fresh topic for users offering escrow services.

I know there are already two topics on this matter -- Recommended bitcointalk escrow services and ₿ LIST ₿ Bitcointalk's ESCROW providers. However, they are not updated for months. First topic was created in 2017, while second one is from 2013. Author of first topic appears as being last active on Jan 31st but, before that, he was seen online last time in August 2022. And, even if he was online in January, he still did not make any update to his topic. Author of second topic was last seen in November 2022.

Excepting that, the lists provided in both topics are not relevant anymore. Some users are not active anymore, such as John K or bL4nkcode. Some turned into scammers, like yogg or bL4nkcode. Some simply don't want to be listed, such as Hhampuz.

Having these in mind, on Jan 19th I PMed the users from both topics to ask them if they are still offering their escrow services and, if so, to let me know about any update regarding their conditions.

I was thinking to allow a month for replying to me and, in case they would not reply even by then, this would mean that (1) the user is not active anymore, (2) the user is not interested about offering the service anymore or (3) the user does not deserve to be listed anymore. Regarding (3) my thoughts are the following: if you want to offer this service, which implies agility and being fast, how can you do it if you are unable to barely reply to a PM during a month?!

So having all these said, about end of February I would like to create this new topic. I believe it's very important to have an up to date thread, containing users with good reputation offering such services, as otherwise someone new, which does not the shady background of other users from the existing topics, may end up cheated or may end up asking for this service from someone which is not active anymore.

I created current one to explain why I intend to do this, in case some will ask why I started a new thread if there are already two ones.



Excepting the topic about escrow services I am also thinking about launching a new for registering post records. Similar to the issue with escrow services, there is already such a topic: [WALL OF FAME] ᗌ Save your Postcount - Milestones ᗏ (UPDATED: 16. December 2021. In this case, the author -- SiNeReiNZzz -- disappeared after scamming shasan. As a consequence, nobody can update it anymore.

And, since a revamped thread for merit records was created after the original one became unavailable, I believe that a similar solution should be adopted in this case as well.

The problem is that I don't know if I'll have enough time for updating often this thread. Perhaps someone else can do it, if he is interested and has more time than I have.
1826  Economy / Reputation / Re: [Discussion] Bitcointalk Community Awards 🏆 on: February 01, 2023, 05:40:08 PM
OMG that's the height of laziness from a Hero Member, com’n Sayeds56 you can do better.

Lol!

Question both votes are not counted? or my vote will be counted??

As I said in my earlier post,

the votes are still eligible for the initial poster, as this one has nothing to do with the fact that his post was copy-pasted later

So don't worry, the original poster's nominations are legit. The problem is that some are really too lazy and, for making more posts or for whatever weird reason they may have, they just copy what others nominated, without realizing that by doing so they also influence the results of the competition. And, excepting that the idea itself is weird and unethical, it may also impact some candidates which will receive multiple votes only because someone is too lazy to think about who he thinks is more suitable to a certain category.



if you need any help, just say so.

Thank you for the good intentions Smiley Now most of the work is done. But if there will be an overwhelming situation in the future, I'll remember your offer.



I'd say: report the post for plagiarism, but don't tag the account. There was nothing to gain by voting, so it's not like he cheated a contest.
Tagging and flagging might be an overkill for this case. This laziness deserves to be punished though so I think that something like a temporary sig ban would be adequate.
Too bad for Sayeds56 such a stupid mistake can cost him this much.

Oooops that escalated quickly Oo I was barely trying to say something funny in my earlier post, about reporting for plagiarism, initiating of a flag and negative feedback.

Nevertheless, it actually is plagiarism, although it's a very dumb one I did not actually think to do all those actions. But anyway, it was unfair what the user did, this can't be denied. Let's see the resolution of the report now. This may create a precedent for future contests and, in case the report will be marked as Good and a penalty will be applied to the user then this may be a good incentive for everybody to avoid copy-pasting even it the context is a contest on the forum.
1827  Local / Română (Romanian) / Re: Criptomonede vs bani digitali emiși de Stat on: February 01, 2023, 05:24:08 PM
Nu stiu ce hram poarta Jack Mallers asta, dar dupa ce si-a bagat coada foarte serios in "bitcoin in El Salvador" (si s-ar putea sa nu fi castigat prea mult din asta, cel putin nu in mod direct), acum pare sa se dezvolte puternic in Filipine. Un bagaret ca asta e.. cam tot ce ne trebuie. Si cum cel mai probabil va intra cu solutia lui de plati, va fi direct interesat.

Hmmm nu stiam de acest Mallers... Oricum, foarte tare ce a facut! Si, din ce am vazut in articolul de pe Bitcoin Magazine, a implementat si transferurile dintre S.U.A. si Nigeria, Kenya si Ghana.

Deci s-ar putea sa nu fie asa lunga aceasta cale... (clar, in functie si de setarile de an ale ceasului, dar poate ca deja recuperam din decalaj...)

Dap, e posibil ca Mallers sa functioneze si pe post de ceasornicar fin pentru ceasurile noastre Smiley Serios acum, sa vedem cand intervine si pe piata europeana, ca, pana acum, a lucrat cu celelalte continente. Cred ca din momentul in care intra si in Europa ceasurile noastre intra in linie dreapta pana la termenul in care vor fi reparate drese cat de cat.

Impresionanta lista! Mersi!

Cu placere Smiley Aditional, in timp ce citeam trei articole deosebit de interesante ([1], [2], [3]) am gasit intamplator un site de care nu stiam - https://coinmap.org - care arata toate locatiile care accepta BTC din fiecare tara.



Surprinzator, conform pozei de mai sus, Romania este impanzita de astfel de locatii, ceea ce este imbucurator. Mi se pare foarte util site-ul. Nu mai stiam vreunul de genul.

Nu stiam ca sunt sanse sa fie roman. Oricum, avem tepari destui, cu sau fara el, deci nu conteaza.

Asa e. Am facut acea mentiune doar ca mi s-a parut interesant. Si sa ramana undeva in arhive informatia aceasta Smiley
1828  Local / Română (Romanian) / Re: Concursuri/tombole pe bitcointalk (sau pe aprope) on: February 01, 2023, 03:52:26 PM
Avem re-editarea concursului in 2 pasi al Sinbad.io, cel cu ghicitul pretului Bitcoin

Hehe, este cu baietii! Foarte frumos din partea lor ca au continuat concursul! Ca si prima data, am sa fac predictiile cat mai aproape de termenele limita.



In alta ordine de idei, concursul cinstit organizat decelcarevreasa-siachitelocuintacubtc2 s-a incheiat, castigatorul fiind ales in mod corect, corectitudinea fiind garantata de site-ul nou creat de catre bitmover, pe de-o parte, si de stapanul suprem al celor cu obraz gros, pe de alta parte. Jos palaria! Tot in acest context, organizatorul tepar al celeilalte tombole s-a ales cu recenzii negative de la mine si de la inca un membru DT.



Da, este concurs-reclama, dar cum am castigat prima editie, nu ma plang.

Mai NeuroticFish, ce sa zic -- Te felicit! Se pare ca ai o inclinatie spre predictii, reusind sa castigi la doua concursuri cu predictii deja, si asta in foarte scurt timp  Roll Eyes Te-ai gandit sa joci si la loto? Serios acum. De acum incolo cred c-o sa-ti urmaresc predictiile si sa pun si eu niste numere apropiate de ale tale Grin Glumesc. Felicitari inca o data, ma bucur ca ai reusit sa castigi!
1829  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Should BTC amounts greater than 10.000E be declared when leaving the country? on: February 01, 2023, 03:42:30 PM
I think it depends on what your intentions are in the country you're travelling to. If you plan to use (unlock) your wallet while you're there then yes.

I found a Swedish travel site that says:
Quote
Besides notes and coins, “cash and equivalent assets” is also defined as traveller’s cheques, cheques, promissory notes, debt instruments, debentures, shares, money orders and securities.

I'm thinking bitcoin is closest related to cheques

Thanks for the link. However, there is no clear statement of the term cryptocurrency... In some fields (in banking, for example) it's written in plain sight that you are not allowed to use the account for incomes obtained from crypto. Therefore I'm thinking that if in some fields the term crypto (or cryptocurrency) is used, it should be also used in case it influences somehow passing the border...



If you're not going to unlock your wallet or spend funds from it then I think it's unlikely you have to tell anyone. I also think you'd probably be safe unlocking your wallet to send funds to an exchange in your home country, converting your crypto to that currency and paying using your bank card for things (but you may be safer holding funds on an exchange as you travel as it'll be considered similar to a bank account then).

I never used a centralized exchange nor I ever will Smiley They are pure evil and you expose yourself to very high risks by using them. What I was thinking about was a possible situation when someone simply wants to have some backup money crypto with him and, in case he runs out of cash, he could go to a cash-in / cash-out crypto ATM and exchange some crypto with fiat.

The part about not going to spend funds from the wallet and if so there would not be any need to say anything to anyone -- what difference would it make even if they would question you (assuming that they (custom officers) would find out somehow that you're carrying a crypto wallet), then you'd tell them you don't intend to use it and still use it at a crypto ATM? Smiley Or at a local shop or restaurant which could accept crypto payments? Nobody would know that you made that transaction, right? Smiley

By the way, thinking about this a funny pic came into my mind:





I've been wondering about this too, but I'm mainly curious if I'd have to declare Bitcoin hodlings when entering the US. Within Schengen/EU, I'm not so worried about it.

Just curious, what makes you feel safer in Europe, if you would be in this situation?

What if you just wrote 12 seed words on a piece of paper? What if you memorized the 12 words?

This would be even easier Smiley

A more fundamental question is: do you carry Bitcoin? One could argue you don't carry it: Bitcoin doesn't exist on an address, it exists only on the blockchain. How is that different than bringing my online banking credentials, which allows me to transfer more than €10,000?

That's a very good question... But, honestly, what do you think the outcome would be in case someone (caught by a customs officer with an undeclared BTC wallet holding more than the equivalent of 10.000E) would try to have this debate with the customs officer? Smiley It's hard to imagine the custom officer would have the necessary knowledge or the will to understand that, in fact, you don't physically have BTC, but you only poses private keys which allow you move some coins, if you want to.



It is also worth noting that when shares and securities are mentioned as "cash or equivalent assets" that have to be declared, they are referring to the physical certificates. Otherwise folks would have to declare their investment bank accounts.

I think they might be able to make a case if you were to carry physical bitcoins or paper wallets

This is what I'm also thinking...



then you can argue for a long time about whether you are obliged to say at the border that you know by heart the seed phrase from a cryptocurrency wallet that stores, for example, $ 10,000,000.

I made some checks but not even Google is able to answer to this question. However, this is what I found about European Union Cash Controls:

Quote
As part of the EU’s efforts to tackle money laundering and the financing of terrorism, all travellers entering or leaving EU territory are already obliged to complete a cash declaration when carrying EUR 10 000 or more (or equivalent in other currencies, bonds, shares or travellers’ cheques). Customs authorities are empowered to check persons, their luggage and their means of transport. They are also empowered to detain undeclared cash. [...]

1) The definition of ‘cash’ in the rules will be extended to include certain other valuable items.

This means that as of that date, you must lodge a cash declaration if you are carrying EUR 10 000 (or its equivalent in other currencies) or more in value of one or more of the following items included under the new definition of cash, when entering or leaving the EU:

    Banknotes and coins (including currency now out of general circulation but that can still be exchanged in a financial institution or central bank),
    Bearer negotiable instruments such as cheques, travellers’ cheques, promissory notes and money orders,
    Gold coins with a gold content of at least 90 %,
    Gold bars, nuggets or clumps with a gold content of at least 99.5 %.

(The part about gold bars may be also an answer for the example given by LoyceV about that Italian smuggling gold bars.)

From what I see, there is no reference to cryptocurrency.

However, even if there would be a reference inside the law (a law which I / we can't find at the moment) for being coerced to declare if you own BTC worth of more than 10.000E -- this would only raise more questions in my head: what happens if you have a wallet with BTC worth of -- let's say -- 8000E (thus you don't declare it when leaving the country) and, when you reach your destination, BTC price soars and your wallet is worth of more than 10.000E without you even thinking about it? They'll simply confiscate your money which value more than 10.000E due to a sudden price growth?
1830  Economy / Reputation / Re: [Discussion] Bitcointalk Community Awards 🏆 on: February 01, 2023, 09:32:11 AM
Thank you Gazeta for this incredible work! I cannot think how efficient and convolute is your AI driven scraping tool that automatically get the votes, checks the profile requirements, updates the charts and checks for plagiarism!

Loooooooool! Only if it would be that easy... heh Smiley

About plagiarism -- should I also report it in the adequate thread + give negative feedback and initiate a flag against the plagiarist? Smiley



Will you present the list of all nominees for each category?

Umm... I think it would be a very difficult work to do it. If you take a look at the result from 2021 or 2020 you can also see that not all nominees were listed. Only those with at least 3 votes.

On the other side, I think it can be implemented a "code - /code" sequence at the bottom of the topic and list there (obviously, without hyperlinks) the names of all other nominees which are not listed in the upper part, meaning those which had 1 or 2 nominations.

Keep up the good work, as we are all looking forward to the results.  Wink

Thanks, I'll do my best!
1831  Economy / Reputation / Re: [Discussion] Bitcointalk Community Awards 🏆 on: January 31, 2023, 06:59:42 PM
I understand that everybody is eager to see the results and I am glad to see this wish expressed  Cheesy Trust me, I am also very eager to see the results posted  Grin We are almost there! In a few days results will be posted.

Until then I will share some statistics and interesting things about current votes!



- this year we had 166 unique users nominated for 10 categories. Excepting them, some were also nominated as being event or fail of the year Oo

- the greatest number of nominations received by a user was 87

- the biggest difference between a first place and a second place was 62 votes

- franky1 tried to abuse the system, by meriting 2 of those who nominated him as antihero, in order to have less votes at this category (facepalm)

- some users had their votes denied for breaking the "no-merit rule" (such examples are minerjones, which has 2 votes unaccounted, for giving merits to those nominating him (link 1, link 2) or ChiBitCTy, which has one vote denied, for same reason (link))

- votes of Atikah92, BTC_Mouse, burugcrypto, PaperWallet, Popkon6, halim50_ and Rbolisna were not counted, as they have less than 50 merits

- 5 votes for satoshi, 4 for Lauda and 1 for asu were also not counted, due to their inactivity

- some mentions of event / fail of the year were also not counted, as they written with words which did not make any sense ("FAILED TO EARN AND HOLD 1btc", "Situación Actual", "Cancel Culture on social media", "Some exchanges are at war", "Get Your Funds Out of Exchange", "BUY THE DIP AND HODL")

- some votes for nominees which had their name written wrong were merged together (Lafu & Lafu01, Majestic_milf & Majestic_miff, The Sceptical Chymist & The Pharmacist, Timelord2067 & TimeLord, fillippone & Phillippone etc.)

- obvious case of copy=paste votes, such as the ones from the example below, won't be counted anymore:



It's no point to be that lazy, to simply copy-paste a previous vote. Obviously, such cases may be hard to spot, especially if a voter from page 9 of the voting topic will copy someone which posted at page 1 or 2. Still, if such cases will be spotted, the one which copy-pasted will have the votes denied (the votes are still eligible for the initial poster, as this one has nothing to do with the fact that his post was copy-pasted later).

Having that said, I think that in the next few days we'll have final results!  Cheesy
1832  Other / Off-topic / Re: My story and where it is now..... on: January 31, 2023, 06:16:06 PM
Yesterday was my 1st day at home and I actually slept 12+ hours. My body has felt so drained throughout all this and finally I got some rest.

Welcome home, dear yahoo62278! I don't know if it's good or bad the fact that you have been release, but I am sure it's good to be home!

Other than that, if you remember, I asked you before if you could try to get this thorough check at another hospital... What these doctors did make me fear for you. How is it possible to go from a status 2 to a status 6? Weren't all those earlier thorough checks made just to see that you really need the transplant...? How can it be possible to evolve from status 2 to 6...?

Then you mentioned the suggestion given to you by that nurse... to go like a stranger to ER... have you thought about this...? Maybe, even better, try to do this at another hospital and see what they find...?

And you said you've been told that this miracle brought you another 1-3 years. But 1-3 years of what...? Of time until you'll need the transplant...? Of life...?

I am so sorry to say, but I think that those doctors acted in a sort of shady way... I don't know, maybe they were not very experienced...? Maybe they were not very competent...? But how can you keep someone for a month inside a hospital, someone which is supposed to be a severe case in need of a transplant and, in the end, to say that the patient does not need it anymore...?

Ufff I am sorry if I bring you more questions that the ones you have. But I think that you also thought about what I just wrote here... Maybe trying to obtain a second specialized opinion would be a good move... I wish you best!
1833  Bitcoin / Legal / Should BTC amounts greater than 10.000E be declared when leaving the country? on: January 31, 2023, 05:03:10 PM
I know there is a law which forbids leaving the country if you carry with you more than 10.000 euros. Actually, the law forbids avoiding to declare amounts greater than 10.000 euros and, if caught, the money are confiscated and a criminal investigation is started by authorities. As far as I know, a similar US law was issued in the past, but the amount in question was 10.000$.

However, my question relates to situation in Europe, not in US.

If any has legal knowledge, I'd like to know if you can leave the country (any European country) and enter in another (European) country while carrying with you a wallet containing BTC worth of more than 10.000 euros, without declaring it. Should a BTC wallet be declared at custom office? And what if that wallet is a software wallet... a mobile wallet? What happens if you don't declare it? They can't see that you have an app on your mobile phone, which is a BTC wallet, right? Even if a custom officer would be too zealous and search travelers' phones, looking for crypto wallets (which I highly doubt), a user can always just delete de app and reinstall it once arrived at destination, right? And there simply restore the wallet.

I don't know... is this illegal? Is it legal? Has anyone encountered with such situation? I am trying to understand how law works (or should work) in such cases. As far as I know, since a country does not accept BTC as legal tender, nobody should declare any crypto wallet he has on his phone nor if it is a hardware wallet as, in front of the State, he is not carrying money with him. Maybe I'm wrong though.

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1834  Local / Română (Romanian) / Re: Criptomonede vs bani digitali emiși de Stat on: January 31, 2023, 04:48:54 PM
Nu cred ca sunt sanse reale sa vedem PoS pentru Bitcoin on-chain in .. sa zicem Kaufland. Nu. S-ar face cozile cat China. Pe de alta parte cu LN ai scanat, ai platit si gata; zici ca e cu cardul pe NFC.

Intr-adevar, cu LN ar fi tranzactiile instantanee... Daca s-ar merge pe BTC si ar cere sa astepti la casa pana se fac minim 3 confirmari... vorba ta. Si se mai trezeste unu' ca pune comision minim (cum am facut eu o data si mi s-a confirmat tranzactia peste doua luni)...

Deci la mine ceasul indica 1973. La tine e abia 1923... Sper ca ti-ai fixat ceasul
Il tot fixez, dar Windows-ul tot insista sa il puna in acelasi secol cu Redmond, WA.  Grin

 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Erau câteva site-uri româneşti înainte care acceptau plata cu Criptomonede.  Procesorul de plată era de-al nostru, dar nu îmi aduc aminte numele.
Cred ca PC Garage inca accepta. Prin Netopia.

Ar mai fi si kartela.ro, EvoMAG, Gadgetway si alte cateva, mentionate aici. Insa e posibil ca unii sa fi scos optiunea aceasta, intre timp. De pilda, la EvoMAG nu mai vad pe site sa scrie ca primesc si BTC.



ZebraPay a fost înlocuit de SelfPay.  Pe ZebraPay vânzătorul era Bitcoin România parcă.  Din păcate, pe SelfPay nu mai există deloc posibilitatea de a cumpăra Bitcoin.  Era fantastic să ai un aparat de cumpărat Bitcoin la aproape fiecare colţ de stradă, dar nu mai e.  Pe de altă parte, mi se pare că aveau comisioane destul de mari.

Nu de SelfPay ziceam... asa s-or numi acum? Uite, am cautat in istoricul postarilor mele, ca stiam ca mai vorbisem la un moment dat de treaba asta... Gata, am gasit -- era vorba de PayPoint. Ele au inlocuit ZebraPay. Si nu mai permiteau achizitia de BTC dupa transformarea lor in aparate PayPoint.

Am facut insa cercetari mai adanc in postarile mele, ca stiam sigur ceva si de SelfPay. Si, ultima oara cand am verificat, puteai cumpara BTC de la ele, prin SpectroCoin. Acum nu stiu daca mai este posibil insa...

Ce este foarte interesant insa abia acum urmeaza. Ca sa gasesc postarile respective am cautat pe Google "Spectrocoin BitcoinTalk". Si, ce crezi?, am gasit, printre altele si un topic despre fondatorul SpectroCoin (?), care ar fi dat niste tepe, primind, in mod evident, si recenzii negative. Aparent, respectivul este si in spatele unor tepe date de Bankera. Culmea culmilor respectivul domn bandit a scris si in sectiunea romaneasca! O fi oare roman?! Mai multe detalii despre tepele date pot fi gasite in recenziile care i s-au scris la sectiunea Trust a profiilului.
1835  Local / Altcoins (Monede Alternative) / Re: Discutie despre PI network on: January 31, 2023, 03:53:39 PM
Aşa înţelegeam şi eu.  Dacă era prinsă cu adevărat, cred că erau toate camerele pe ea la încarcerare.

Absolut! Era, probabil, stirea anului in crypto, desi femeia numai cu crypto nu se ocupa, OneCoin nefiind o criptomoneda, ci o... nici nu stiu cum sa-i spun. O inventie software, menita sa insele oamenii.

Mai simplu şi mai mişto e să iei un om cinstit care a depus la ANAF declaraţie de venit şi să îl tragi la răspundere pentru ce ţi se scoală să îl tragi, că acolo ai direct semnătura lui negru pe alb deci îl frigi rapid şi uşor.  Aşa te poţi da marea gorilă inteligentă tu, ANAF, în faţa lui.  În faţa ţeparilor OneCoin ce şmecher să te şi dai, că sunt tot cam la fel de şmecheri ca tine, dacă nu şi mai şi.

Pai n-ai vazut ce fata are stapanul lor roman, acel Calina? Eu, din prima clipa cand i-am vazut figura in acel documentar am avut impresia ca omul e mare tepar / mare smecher. Asa, cu zambtul acela de bagabontprezent in permanenta... Cum incerca el sa dribleze orice intrebare delicata...

Si da, la noi smecherii mari o duc bine-merci, in timp ce omul de rand e anchetat pentru munca lui cinstita.

P.S.: vezi ca o sa ai o surpriza (sper eu placuta) in topicul despre ATM-urile fantoma Smiley
1836  Local / Română (Romanian) / Re: Criptomonede vs bani digitali emiși de Stat on: January 31, 2023, 03:17:56 PM
Eu cred ca vasta majoritate a celor care nu au card sau nu-l folosesc este din cauza "fricii de tehnologie". Lumea a facut si face scandal din cauza pasapoartelor (si in curand buletinelor) cu chip, ca in chip e satana, inca lumea crede ca antenele de 5G ii chipeaza sau mai stiu eu ce...

Cati pensionari iau banii pe card, si cati asteapta postasul? Iar din cei care iau pe card, cum ai zis, vasta majoritate folosesc cardul doar la ATM, ca mai mult nu stiu si nu vor sa invete.
Dar nu are legatura cu KYC.

Asa ma gandesc si eu...

Nu despre acelea vorbesc. Vorbesc de PoS-uri care sa accepte bitcoin. Clar, o gramada de firme s-au apucat sa faca de astea, nu demult chiar si Jack Dorsey se lauda cu unul. Dar pana ajung in UE si apoi la noi... mai trece ceva timp...
...Doar nu crezi ca se duce casiera la ZebraPay (samd) sa converteasca dupa ce ti-ai platit cumparaturile?  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Haha! Nu, nu ma gandeam ca se duce casiera repede la aparat sa bage niste BTC in portofel Smiley Ce voiam eu sa spun era ca, de-a lungul anilor, marii comercianti (si, in principiu si angajatii) s-ar fi putut obisnui cu ideea de Bitcoin. Pe langa ce mai auzeau pe la stiri, pe langa ce mai auzeau de la prieteni, fiecare magazin avea si un astfel de aparat. Ca urmare, tatonarea terenului s-ar fi putut face la un moment dat.

Referitor la PoS-uri mi-am amintit ca mai scrisesei cu ceva vreme in urma un topic pe acest subiect - [2021-01-14] Plata cu criptomonede direct la casa de marcat, disponibilă şi în... Din ce vad, Dorsey zicea de un PoS cu plata in LN; topicul de la tine se referea la plata "normala", cu BTC. Eu zic ca pana la LN e cale lunga... barem sa avem macar posibilitatea sa facem plati cu BTC Smiley Dar nu s-a mai auzit nimic de subiect dupa stirea aceea, ceea ce e trist...

Am vazut si m-am socat (si nu in sensul rau). Ca graffitti-ul din poza pe care ai pus-o fie e mai nou, fie traiesti deja intr-o zona evoluata. Ce graffitti am vazut eu zicea despre 100 de ani...

Loooooooooool! Da, la mine e lumea mai avansata. Nu stiu daca ai bagat de seama, dar aparea chiar si cratima in "Fixati-va"  Roll Eyes

Deci la mine ceasul indica 1973. La tine e abia 1923... Sper ca ti-ai fixat ceasul
1837  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Be careful with saxydev; he is a scammer on: January 31, 2023, 02:24:33 PM
I wanted to reply to this topic but at a moment the thread was locked at that moment I realised no matter how much I am in good faith, I was made a criminal for them.
Liar!
This thread was not locked, and you were not online for days with this profile.

I also noticed this ridiculous lie -- and also the fact that the scammer acted in good faith. Have you ever thought the opposite?  Roll Eyes
I really don't understand how some can say such lies in your face when it's crystal clear that whay they say is a lie...

If you are so poor that you don't have 0.1 BTC, I can also accept for you to pay me monthly or weekly in smaller denominations, until you pay the full amount.

Dear dkbit98, I believe you have too high expectations here Smiley Of course the pauper does not have 0.1 BTC. As I explained before,

It was funny the way you said but the truth is that while Tate has collection of Lambos inside his garage this pauper is eating the mess from under his fingernails while trying to scam innocent people from the forum.

Imagine his lunch: dirt from four fingernails; dinner: dirt from three more fingernails. On the other side, waiting him to pay on weekly / monthly basis could work, but you know what that would mean, don't you? It would mean for him to scam some more until payment date =)))



You are missing the point that a Shitcoin is mostly harmless and "just" resulting in a loss (by simply holding it).
PI is a fraudulent shitcoin where harm is actively done in multiple ways:

PI is only available for people doing KYC. [...]
PI is a glorified ponzi. [...]

Supporting a fraudulent Shitcoin like PI should be highly discouraged.

You'd be surprised, but the scammer also supports KYC. According to a post he made inside Romanian board,

KYC va fi extrem de important pentru securitatea financiara in crypto, dar nu inca.

In English, he is saying that "KYC will be extremely important for financial security in crypto, but not yet". Although both I and PrivacyG asked him what he means with this idiocy, he never replied. He replied saying something else, of course, but without answering to our questions.

So what can you expect from someone supporting KYC? To believe anything from your valuable topic Why KYC is extremely dangerous – and useless? He won't of course. And, even more bad, he may also make others believe that KYC is safe for them, luring them into traps which they never imagined before.

In addition it's a bit weird that such a flag really gets opposition. It's not a good showing to side with a scammer...

What I find to be more ironic and amusing is that the scammer did not oppose the flag =))) It's like he admits his guilt



Hi, I have saved the whole history and can post it. He wrote to me yesterday that he would like to send me the Bitcoin back, I'll wait, otherwise the whole process will come in here.

Belkin1986, do you have any update on this matter?
1838  Local / Română (Romanian) / Re: Criptomonede vs bani digitali emiși de Stat on: January 31, 2023, 10:56:39 AM
Sadic, bancul!

Hihi!

Aici este legat si de comoditate. Zonele de self-pay sunt in general mai libere, desi se poate plati si cash. Dar multi sunt prea mandri sa-si scaneze produsele si stau la cozi la banda.

Cred ca IntimitateaG se referea la acele magazine unde sunt sectii unde poti plati doar cu cardul, nu si cash si cu cardul. Si, da, acolo trebuie implicit sa iti scanezi singur produsele.

Deci da, IntimitateaG are dreptate, dar situatia nu este doar din cauza supermarketurilor.

Corect si asta. Plus ca sunt si multi la noi care inca nu au card -- oameni in varsta (prea in varsta pentru a mai invata sa foloseasca asa ceva si, ca urmare, au optat si pentru a primi pensia de la postas si nu pe card). Totusi, mereu am stat sa ma gandesc la asta, in timp ce eram la o coada nesfarsita la Carrefour, la casele unde accepta si cash si card, in timp ce la casele unde se putea achita coar cu cardul era gol: oare cati dintre oameni nu si-au facut card din considerente legate de intimitate, si nu de varsta / imposibilitate de a mai invata ce e ala un card bancar? Sau cati sunt ca mine, adica desi detin card, fiind fortati de imprejurari (angajatorul refuza sa plateasca salariile cash etc.), din principiu, aleg sa scoata toti banii de pe card atunci cand intra, pentru a-i folosi tot in forma de cash, evitand in continuare ca oricine sa-i poata spiona tranzactiile, cum s-ar fi intamplat in cazul in care ar fi utilizat cardul?

Eu unul nu mi-am instalat nici macar aplicatia Lidl, desi ofera reduceri consistente, pentru ca imi cerea datele personale. Dar cati or fi, in realitate, asa, si cati or fi cei care pur si implu nu au card dintr-un motiv sau altul, dar nu legat de predarea datelor personale bancilor...?

Eu sper (si cred!) ca lanturile mari de magazine vor accepta - mai devreme sau mai tarziu - Bitcoin (si nu doar eRON). Probabil ca cineva va trebui sa le puna sub bot niste aparate pentru asta.

Pai aveau / au aparate Bitcoin sub ochi... nu au? Nu sunt mai in toate magazinele acele aparate care au inlocuit fostele ZebraPay? Imi scapa numele lor acum. Cele unde poti plati diverse servicii si de unde poti inclusiv sa cumperi BTC...

Si atunci s-ar foarte putea ca plata prin LN sa fie mai rapida, iar noi sa beneficiem de lipsa statului la cozi. Sunt prea optimist?

Stiu si eu...?!  Cheesy

Trebuie doar sa avem putintica rabdare sa treaca acel decalaj de ani (sper sa nu fie tot 50-100 de ani ca pe vremea cand au fost pictate acele graffitti-uril pe care inca le vedem pe la intrarile in tara).

Ai vazut cumva postarea mea din topicul despre Pi? Sau din pura coincidenta ai zis de asta? Daca din coincidenta, mi se pare foarte tare ca ne-am gandit amandoi, in aceeasi zi, la scurt interval de timp unul de celalalt, la aceeasi poza =)))
1839  Local / Română (Romanian) / Re: Pro Hash si Cryptoland -- ATM-urile fantoma on: January 31, 2023, 10:42:58 AM
Chiar ma bucur! Zic eu ca ai reusit sa afli mult mai usor informatiile. (Mergand fizic.. mai mergeai de cateva ori degeaba...)

Dap, asa a fost. Ai avut gura aurita Smiley Oricum, arabul (sau ce natie o fi fost) care era la ghiseul exchange-ului era atat de plictisit de ce-l intrebam, incat imi venea lehamite sa incerc sa mai vorbesc cu el. Cred ca acum am vorbit cu patronul sau, in orice caz, cu cineva mai mare decat acel angajat al exchange-ului.

Am mai auzit ca bancile din Romania pur si simplu nu vor sa auda de afaceri cu bitcoin/crypto si inchid conturile pe banda rulanta la diferitele case de schimb (si deci probabil si ATM-uri).
Speram totusi ca informatia e veche si s-au mai desteptat, dar vad ca.. dimpotriva...

Informatie este, in continuare de actualitate. Razvan, de pilda, mi-a spus ca are interdictie la a mai detine cont la orice banca din Romania (Evident, din cauza ca avea tranzactii provenind din crypto.) Dar nu cred ca asta ca era problema proprietarului ATM-ului Cryptoland. Poate am inteles eu gresit, dar cred ca se referea la faptul ca nu gaseste niciun crypto exchange romanesc care sa-i accepte ATM-ul in reteaua lor. Adica omul are aparatul, nu are unde sa-l conecteze (la o retea centralizata). Deci nu cred ca la conturile bancare se referea (sau, poate, nu neaparat la ele), cat la cele pe care ar fi vrut sa le aiba (aparatul) la un exchange crypto.

Oricum, una peste alta, e si mai bine asa. Acum chiar stii sigur ca nu te spioneaza nicio camera, fie ea vizibila sau ascunsa, a vreunui aparat; stii ca te poti duce cu ochelari de soare, cu gluga pe cap si sa iti faci treaba linistit...

Nici nu e asa rau. Mai stii de cei 14%+ la ATM-ul ala mirific al AtmBytes?! Plus intimitate. Doar ca na, trebuie sa speri ca nu vine cu niste "prieteni"...

Da, da! Pai cum sa uit asa ceva?! Referitor la ultima parte... nu cred eu ca se complica omul sa vina cu "prieteni", mai ales daca detine un exchange. Are bani destui Smiley Mai are si magazinasul acela de langa ATM. Si doar nu te-ar ataca, in buricul targului, ziua in amiaza mare. (Ca fapt divers, ATM-ul este chiar in centrul orasului, langa Piata Unirii, nu in vreun cartier rau famat.)
1840  Local / Română (Romanian) / Re: Criptomonede vs bani digitali emiși de Stat on: January 31, 2023, 10:25:12 AM
Eheheeee, ce vremuri erau cand era Dragnea la putere. Uiti si ca daduse lege pentru dublarea alocatiilor (dublare care nu a avut loc nici pana in ziua de astazi) si pentru marirea punctului de pensie cu 40% (care, de asemenea, nu a avut loc)? Deci nu doar ca dadea din gura, omul chiar dadea legi! Imi amintesc ca in perioada aceea eram tare curios cum o sa si plateasca tot ce primite.
Pai era simplu: prin devalorizarea accelerata a leului. Daca 1 euro se facea 10 lei, din devalorizarea la 50% putea sa "creasca" toate veniturile si alocatiile cu 40% si tot ii ramaneau 10% pentru alte idei/proiecte. Matematica este simpla!

Cand era Dragnea aproape sa ajunga presedinte era o gluma ca o sa ne imbogateasca pe toti si o sa faca salariul de 1000 EUR sa ajunga la 10000 lei.
Dar, cum spuneam, masa votanta nu intelege...

Apropo de asta, mi-am amintit de un banc. Bancul e bun, dar in contextul in care-l spun in contextul actual, devine trist. Ras-plans!

Un prieten s-a dus la psiholog deoarece credea ca are un picior mai scurt. Psihologul l-a lamurit ca celalalt picior este mai lung... Acum este fericit!
La fel si cu pensiile si salariile: ni se spune ca nu sunt ele mici, ci ca sunt preturile mari. Alta viata, nenicule!

sper ca totusi justitia sa nu fie complet sub bocancul politicului
Chiar crezi ca nu este? Smiley
Partial, este. Complet, nu stiu, sper ca nu.

Si eu sper Smiley



Ţi-am mai pus câteva merite acolo

Multumesc  Roll Eyes

m-a întristat să văd cât de puţin interes există faţă de cele mai serioase şi realiste subiecte de discuţie.  Am intrat pe discuţia începută de tine pe internaţional şi e trist să vezi că doar participanţi ai ChipMixer şi BestChange au fost interesaţi să răspundă.

Adevarat, acum am observat si eu... incredibil!

Mulţumim pentru topic, Gazeta.

Ma bucur ca a fost un material interesant de citit Smiley

Când s-o decide 'uie' să lanseze moneda digitală europeană, să avem linguri pregătite pentru pomană.  Că lumea o să înghită la rahat cu găleţile.

M-a amuzant maxim formularea! =))) Desi e de ras-plans situatia...

E impresionant şi foarte dezamăgitor cât de uşor acceptă lumea orice i se spune să gândească şi nu am nici un fel de speranţă că lumea va înţelege de ce Bitcoin e superior monedei pe care uie sau orice altă putere o va lansa.

Pai... vezi bancul pe care l-am scris mai sus. Fix asa o sa fie.

Păi du-te în orice hipermarket şi vezi cine are avantajele mai mari.  Cine stă mai puţin la coadă.  Aberez dacă spun că în ultimii trei-patru ani de zile a devenit tot mai dificil şi costisitor să alegi cash în faţa cardului?

Nu, ai perfecta dreptate. Si eu am observat asta... In zonele unde sunt case de platit cu cardul e mai mereu gol...

O monedă o să ofere libertate, cealaltă va pretinde să ofere siguranţă învăluită în monitorizare permanentă a fiecărui individ.  Vor fi două extreme, dar noi vom fi luaţi drept singurii extremişti.

Si ostracizati. Mult, mult mai mult decat acum.
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