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1821  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 16, 2014, 05:17:49 PM
Given their logic, regulations will crush everything!  I don't think people think BTC will be the thing when it comes to cryptocurrency (it may, but usually, the first try at something will fail) - but there will be some new crypto.
I keep hearing people say this, but they offer no ideas that work. It's like saying that airplanes will be obsolete because we will have teleporters someday. It's just fantasy dreaming when we have something that works today.
1822  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin vs. War: Can Bitcoin Reduce Wars? on: November 16, 2014, 05:14:12 PM
As long as humans live, war will continue, because there will always be conflict. War never changes.
War can be bloodless and cold.
"Every battle is won before it's ever fought." - Sun Tzu
1823  Economy / Economics / Re: A Resource Based Economy on: November 16, 2014, 04:56:07 PM
RBE is also common sense. Did your parents charge you for room and board when you were a child? Would you charge your elderly and infirmed parent for such support? Just extend that concept and treat everyone as your family. It is much easier to understand when survival is a higher priority in situations such as total war.

The problem is scale. This approach just doesn't scale up. It's also a trust problem. How do we trust to be the bread earners and distributors in the global family?

The actual antithesis to capitalism is not communism or an RBE (which would be state capitalism), it is self-sustainability, even where it does not seem to be economical at first sight to abstain from large-scale division of labor. If everyone lived in their own biotecture earthships with solar power and 3D printers (or even more sophisticated replicators), i.e. when all basic needs are provided for without having to be distributed by an authority, only then we can perhaps do away with money, as any projects beyond that may (or may not) be accomplished with a voluntary and open source mentality.
Even with an open source project at some point consensus chooses an authority. With the blockchain the most proof of work (sometimes called proof of AUTHenticity) is chosen because it is believed to be the most authoritative. Authority can be trustless if it is awarded and limited by merit.

We often don't appreciate that we are fortunate to live in a world blessed with technological unemployment. Instead we compete for jobs that are abstract, redundant, obsolete, and offer little satisfaction. The system of employment is barely held together by inflating the economy. The open source nature of RBE offers alternative employment incentives. In fact even now most open source work is incentivized by pure enjoyment.

It's difficult to predict when revolutions will happen or they wouldn't be called revolutions. There are small revolutions happening every day that aggregate until they disrupt the social ecosystems. The real revolutions won't be 3D printers and Earthships, it will be the small choices we make every day that eventually change our behavior management skills and technologies. Understanding Bitcoin is one such very difficult choice for people to make, but one that can help bring better decision making technology to help manage Earth's sustainability.
1824  Economy / Economics / Re: A Resource Based Economy on: November 16, 2014, 06:37:33 AM
RBE is also common sense. Did your parents charge you for room and board when you were a child? Would you charge your elderly and infirmed parent for such support? Just extend that concept and treat everyone as your family. It is much easier to understand when survival is a higher priority in situations such as total war.
No, it isn't common sense. That's why it isn't intuitive. A RBE economy is not analogous to the nuclear family situation, again that's a poor example and an extreme oversimplification.
Why do you believe that RBE is not like a nuclear family? Can you give an example?

RBE is as simple as e=mc2 to describe and just as difficult to understand. All science is like that. Scientific truths are simple to demonstrate and nearly impossible to thoroughly explain. That's why scientists go through 6 or more years of college. That's also why science is not a debate and I will not engage in debate. Debaters use logical fallacies to cheat their way through arguments.
Except this isn't science, and your pedantic meanderings aren't proof of anything.
That wasn't meant to be a scientific statement. It is epistemology. You just made my point by making a fallacious argument.


Ask me a specific question about what you don't understand or be perceived as arguing through ignorance.
How aggressive. Why are you entering a discussion convinced you have all the answers? Isn't that the hallmark of ignorance rather than intellect?
I am merely your humble servant.
1825  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Similarities to mass Bitcoin adoption beginning now & the internet in 1994. on: November 16, 2014, 05:47:49 AM
1994 The Lincoln-Douglas debate was re-enacted.
2014 Former President George H. W. Bush was honored with the prestigious John F. Kennedy Profile in Courage Award™
 Grin
1826  Economy / Economics / Re: A Resource Based Economy on: November 16, 2014, 04:55:16 AM
How to convince people that this system works without to test it first? I can't accept a theory without evidence. This is not the scientific way.
Have you tested to see if jumping off a cliff will kill you? What evidence do you need? RBE has a plethora of evidence. The difference is, it won't kill you if you try it yourself.
Jumping off a cliff is a poor analogy, it's both intuitive and has been tested. Proof of concept is important.
RBE is also common sense. Did your parents charge you for room and board when you were a child? Would you charge your elderly and infirmed parent for such support? Just extend that concept and treat everyone as your family. It is much easier to understand when survival is a higher priority in situations such as total war.

RBE is as simple as e=mc2 to describe and just as difficult to understand. All science is like that. Scientific truths are simple to demonstrate and nearly impossible to thoroughly explain. That's why scientists go through 6 or more years of college. That's also why science is not a debate and I will not engage in debate. Debaters use logical fallacies to cheat their way through arguments.

Ask me a specific question about what you don't understand or be perceived as arguing through ignorance.
1827  Economy / Economics / Re: A Resource Based Economy on: November 16, 2014, 04:09:55 AM
How to convince people that this system works without to test it first? I can't accept a theory without evidence. This is not the scientific way.
Have you tested to see if jumping off a cliff will kill you? What evidence do you need? RBE has a plethora of evidence. The difference is, it won't kill you if you try it yourself.
1828  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin vs. War: Can Bitcoin Reduce Wars? on: November 16, 2014, 04:02:56 AM
Bitcoin can also be bad too as terrorists can move around funds with ease, anonymously.

Sure, Bitcoin and fiat can both be used for good and evil. Fiat can be spent just as anonymously as Bitcoin or more so.

The difference between the two though is with fiat citizens are forced to pay for murder, torture, and terrorism and with Bitcoin states, gangs, terrorists, and corrupt individuals cannot support their unethical actions by socializing those costs across the whole population.
This
1829  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 16, 2014, 03:51:52 AM
Watching the G20 GDCC livestream. Bullish!
1830  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can bitcoin be used for military usage? on: November 15, 2014, 04:51:20 PM

Maybe someday Bitcoin will choose peace.
1831  Economy / Economics / Re: A Resource Based Economy on: November 15, 2014, 04:28:11 PM
The RBE is a philosophy without experimental evidence. Give me the experiments which prove that RBE is working well. Without experiments i don't believe anything.
What experimental evidence would convince you?
1832  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: November 15, 2014, 01:31:58 AM


so sad.  no.  Bitcoin is the public good. sidechains are a sideshow.
Even I have to get clarification here. Though it's often called a virtual commodity (whatever that means) Bitcoin is a protocol. The Internet that hosts the protocol should be considered a public good. As long as Side Chains don't directly interfere with Internet or the protocol itself, they pose no more threat than any other payment system. Even if they all fail and destroy all but one satoshi, Bitcoin will survive.
1833  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 14, 2014, 05:25:13 PM
To the rest of you degenerate Bitcoiners:  YOU CAN NOT HIDE!





P.S:  We have milk and cookies!


1834  Economy / Economics / Re: A Resource Based Economy on: November 14, 2014, 05:16:42 PM
The problem with the RBE is that the resources on Earth are finite. So you must put a value on them and a money system is necessary. A better idea is the transfer of the file sharing model to the monetary system. You can share the coins like files, through a p2p network.
...but why put value on the Earth's physical resources?

Because the Earth's physical resources are not infinite. RBE is impossible in a finite world. Only air and water are abundant so these ones are free or very cheap. The best thing we can do is to share the money fairly through a p2p network.
You are making a tautological and arbitrary argument by saying air and water are cheap because they are abundant.

Land is abundant, but it is not free or cheap. All the world's resources are manageable to provide optimum benefits without wasting them on planned obsolescence and war. It will require unlearning conspicuous consumption and privatized capitalism.

Fair money helps people sort out these priorities because people give the money its value, not the other way around. Fiat money gives human life monetary value and enslaves them through inflation. This is the lesson Bitcoin will teach the world about who we are in relation to our world.
1835  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 14, 2014, 04:39:37 PM
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I've not noticed you having a problem with repeating yourself.

>I've not noticed

Where are you from, cbeast?
Someplace that doesn't care about grammar Nazis.

Where is that, cbeast?  Where do kids who dropped out of school to huff gasoline and invest in Bitcoin hang out?
Bitcointalk

Chronic abuse of organic solvents sure explains some of the thinking here.  
Pot. Kettle. Black.

Shortened attention span and unabashed displays of stupidity are symptomatic of your condition.
Though the effects of your misspent youth are generally irreversible, today's potent pharmachemicals may offer at least partial, symptomatic relief.
 
How did that make you feel?

I find helping the differently-enabled such as you somewhat rewarding, but sorta meh Undecided
Maybe you'll do better next time.
1836  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 14, 2014, 04:36:33 PM
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I've not noticed you having a problem with repeating yourself.

>I've not noticed

Where are you from, cbeast?
Someplace that doesn't care about grammar Nazis.

Where is that, cbeast?  Where do kids who dropped out of school to huff gasoline and invest in Bitcoin hang out?
Bitcointalk

Chronic abuse of organic solvents sure explains some of the thinking here.  
Pot. Kettle. Black.

Shortened attention span and unabashed displays of stupidity are symptomatic of your condition.
Though the effects of your misspent youth are generally irreversible, today's potent pharmachemicals may offer at least partial, symptomatic relief.
 
How did that make you feel?
1837  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 14, 2014, 04:22:08 PM
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I've not noticed you having a problem with repeating yourself.

>I've not noticed

Where are you from, cbeast?
Someplace that doesn't care about grammar Nazis.

Where is that, cbeast?  Where do kids who dropped out of school to huff gasoline and invest in Bitcoin hang out?
Bitcointalk

Chronic abuse of organic solvents sure explains some of the thinking here.  
Pot. Kettle. Black.
1838  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 14, 2014, 04:19:09 PM
I wish we would go back to last year. A normal buy and sell market. This is ridiculous. It's worse than the shittiest pump and dump coins out there.
At least we would still have Mt Gox to blame.
1839  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 14, 2014, 04:16:00 PM
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I've not noticed you having a problem with repeating yourself.

>I've not noticed

Where are you from, cbeast?
Someplace that doesn't care about grammar Nazis.

Where is that, cbeast?  Where do kids who dropped out of school to huff gasoline and invest in Bitcoin hang out?
Bitcointalk
1840  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 14, 2014, 04:08:54 PM
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I've not noticed you having a problem with repeating yourself.

>I've not noticed

Where are you from, cbeast?
Someplace that doesn't care about grammar Nazis.
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