We get a message threatening a DDoS attack weekly and sometimes they are able to penetrate the protections.  This is what we are currently dealing with and will get Betcoin back up and running shortly.  We will keep you posted:

Hello Support,

We are a team of highly skilled independent security consultants. One of your competitors hired us to take your site offline for an entire month (which we have the resources to do but don't like the contact and might be able to work together instead).

We are taking your site offline until we here from you. Our initial consultation will cost 1 BTC. That price will go up half a btc for every 12 hours we have to keep your site offline. I want to personally assure you that we have the power to keep your site down for an indefinite amount of time. We are the ones who took down xbox live all week (testing ONE of our new servers). In addition to lletting your site up and giving you a report of what we found and how to fix it we will also let you know the ONLY way to stop a DDos attack the size we are capable of launching. We will also add you to a blacklist so no one else fucks with you.

The BTC can be sent to the following address :
1KRQ6LVBFDGn26cdn6FF5hBckNPsPPJLax

I know that you are going to try to mitigate but in the end that is only going to cost you a lot more money. You make enough from betting and advertising alone that just an hour of downtime wont justify the cost. Our team also understands that you will try to mitigate but nothing will stop the attack except my command. Your hosting provider will not be able to help, the authorities wont be able to help you, your firewall is easily bypassed and any ddos service you try to bring in we can bring down (we have done this for a long time). believe it or not we are not the masked assholes stealing credit card numbers. Most of us have families and can't find legitimate jobs in our fields right now and have families to feed.

Regards,

GETDD0sed

Why betcoin.ag is not listed ? I think they belong to List A or B i guess . Here is their main thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=386266.0 . They have sports book, casino, poker and more.

Did you know something about double spending before in bitcoin network peeps?
I assume you did not know okay, why directbet.eu confiscated the amount bet? Because the coin would never confirmed to directbet.eu wallet and anytime the spender can do Pre-mine one transaction into a block and spend the same coins before releasing the block to invalidate that transaction.
Directbet.eu still the best bitcoin sportsbook .

Directbet is pretty much the first choice because you don't need to sign up. You just put your bet to your address and if you win the money will come to your address as soon as the game finishes or the bet win without waiting to finish the game. For example over X goals, over X points.
Don't trust ratings of Peeps Place. He's trying to manipulate sportsbook market flow. He gave D to Directbet, that's disrespectful.

Directbet must pay player in full: deposit+winnings;

They have received player's funds and accepted bet. The bet has won. It is that simple. They do not have any right to request ID.

We posted this in our thread a couple of days ago. In case you missed it :

hungerstyle is an hacker who attempted to defraud us.

He bet on Nadal to win a Tennis match and after Nadal lost the first set, when he thought he was going to lose the bet, he attempted to double spend his bet transfer.

Following is a proof :

https://live.blockcypher.com/btc/tx/89be96f6cecf47de065ea152b3d1bd969047cb282c61a4c30d82d78e38ef1ddd/

He also admitted this to us via e-mail and promised not to do it again.

As a goodwill gesture we agreed to return his original wager provided that he sign an agreement, but he refused.

We will not be discussing this matter publicly any further. If you have any more questions please direct them to support@directbet.eu

I think "double spend attempt confirmed" is vague and could be interpreted many different ways.  (not good)

If you want to seize a players funds ethically, you need proof that the double spend was done maliciously and with the intent to cheat the sports book.

Proving the intent of an anonymous person is extremely difficult or impossible.

Even if you really believe a player is guilty, you can not ethically take their money without proof since ultimately, you chose to accept the the risk that comes with crediting players before their transactions are confirmed by the network.  Many other sites choose not to.

Since our beginning, in 2014, we never confiscated any winner's profits / balances, and we usually process some big withdrawals (last weekend we had a 18, a 13 and a 11BTC, none took more than 47mins.

What I am telling is that if any of these users have tried to double spend on us, we would surely take the appropriate measures to avoid situations like that happen in future.

From what I understood directbet is ready to process your withdrawal after you send the passport and sign a term.

In case of double spend attempt confirmed, and I repeat in case of double spend attempt proved, that measure is clearly "user-friendly" in our opinion.

Even if Directbet is out of line asking for a passport photo, I'd send my passport photo out all day long for 36 btc per send.
And then not do business there in the future if you were falsely accused.

Not sure if Hungerstyle is innocent, but I am sure that Directbet is guilty of handling this situation very poorly.  Feel free to repost this wherever if anyone likes.

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Last fall for about a month maybe 1 out of every 20 transactions from my electrum wallet  were showing up as double spends and it was completely unintentional (eventually realized i needed to update software)  There were no big problems because they were all involving individuals or sites that require 1 confirmation.  

In the end, one would confirm and the other was eventually deleted from the block chain.

If I had deposited on DirectBet, could I have ended up getting freerolled like Hungerstyle?

There are two still in my Betcoin transaction history with invalid transaction ids:


My point is, obviously I don't think any site can justify not paying out a winning bet after the fact because of a double unconfirmed transaction and a suspicion.  


If they have enough evidence to justify seizing 36 bitcoin from a player, they should be prepared to defend their decision to the player and the public (if player chooses to make it public)  Can't just say "fuck this guy, I think he's trying to scam us" and expect to maintain a reputation.  

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Does your comment reflect how BetBTC would handle a similar situation?

Definitely it wouldn't be a good idea to try double-spend on us.

Yes I consider lost cause.

I buy btc bet and lose cash + coin. They probably sweating heat.


As stated in the email they ignore. They claim double spend after nadal loses 1st set but TXID they provide as the DS has input that is spent  24 hours + before match even started. Spent input proves both that tx came long before nadal and what they claim as a hack was never valid tx that could confirm


They ignore support email and I provide all screens & co operation.

Probably misunderstanding on DB half but as of writing this they have still not responded to email support since "Thu, May 19, 2016 at 4:23 PM"  

Their forum people just say "Management is looking into it"  and bury with their promo posts.

End of day small potatoes but serious players proabbly should look to another book

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