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1881  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you gamble or think it's a waste of money and time? on: November 18, 2018, 02:23:03 PM
Seeing how the odds are pretty often against you in gambling as the gambling services are for making money out of you and not the reverse, do you still decide to gamble? If so, why?
I am also a gambler and i really do think playing gambling is just a watse of my momey and time, that is why i only play gambling if my friends started to ask me to go with them to have fun but i don't push myslef to use a lot of money in playing.

Well if it does give you a good time when you play with your friends then i don't think it's a waste. As long as you can afford the time and money you put into it and it gives you a good feeling. It only becomes a waste when you go beyond proper reason and you put in a little too much.
1882  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2019 NBA Pre-Season on: November 18, 2018, 02:18:43 PM
Freakin great game in Orlando against the Lakers.
D.J. Agustin is like the flash. Slicing and even doing a fantastic ankle breaker.
He puts a dagger to the chest of the Lakers. Lebron cannot answer bavk and so is Kuzma who have a rough night.

Gordon with super dunks too. Made my day. I love plays like that. Speed and performance.

Orlando did play a perfect games against the Lakers. They also have some good blocks on James and Javale, and Ball went scoreless if I'm not mistaken. So their winning streak is snapped. And yes, D.J. Agustin exposed LA's poor defense while Vucevic cannot be stop by Javale and Tyson Chandler. So next is Miami for Lakers, I'm expecting Lonzo to play better this time.

Wel they'll bounce back that's for sure. Unless they want to have bron episodes inside the locker again, the lakers should avoid having losing streaks. And how about anthony davis having back to back 40pt games? Someone to watch for the mvp race as early as now.
1883  Economy / Speculation / Re: Who/what will fuel the next bull run? on: November 18, 2018, 08:59:01 AM
Many people expect there will be another bull run in the more or less near future. But who, whose money, what will be the fuel for next bull run? New investors? Smart money? Why? Do elaborate, I am very curious to know your thoughts.

People's money will fuel the next bull run. This could be a one united of bitcoin enthusiast (whales, shark, newbies, FOMO) to push the price higher. I think this only need a good news that will ignite the market and the right timing.

Well the current happenings certainly isn't going to be attractive for would be investors. It would probably take a bit more time before we see another bull run like the one that happened last year. Too few events to draw in people's money.
1884  Economy / Speculation / Re: New Bitcoin growth in 2019 on: November 18, 2018, 08:55:37 AM
Experts predict $20,000 for bitcoin in the 2019. When will Bitcoin reach this point in your opinion?
I was hoping that we would be seeing that before this year was out but it doesn't look like that is going to happen.  If not this year then next year early I hope.
yes, I also have the same hope. at this time, the price of bitcoin and altcoin really fell. I just hope that the end of this year will be a rise in the price of bitcoin, and a high altcoin. even though it's only around $ 8k, I think it's good enough for the end of the year.

People would probably take any amount as long as we finish the year on a positive trend lol. It's asking for the sun and stars if we wish to be back above 10k by the year's end. 2018 has been a purge for the market where weak hands have been shrugged off.
1885  Economy / Speculation / Re: Market still stagnant! on: November 18, 2018, 08:51:47 AM
until now the market is in a stagnant condition and if seen then the situation does not change too much. the market only moves a few percent. but it should be remembered that things like this have weaknesses and strengths. take and take advantage of every situation that exists and try to maximize momentum. it will help us to get far better results when the market looks stagnant and not too many changes occur.
Will have time for the market to recover, it will take time before we can be able to see the prices we wanted at all. This are the cons and pros of being in this market.

Don't wait for it. The more you pray for a market recovery the more anxiety will kick in for every little drop, much more if the price declines 10%. Bitcoin's natural growth will happen over time and it's not really good to look at btc at the short term right now.
1886  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin is about to collapse this week on: November 18, 2018, 08:47:16 AM
Bitcoin is like the stock market. If anyone suggests with 100% certainty that they know what the price of BTC (or other currencies) will be within a certain time frame, run...

Do the research, make your own consensus, and make a decision from there.
For all we know, this could just be a minor setback as we've seen before. It's not exactly like BTC plummeted 50%.
Changes that occur at this time can be said to be normal and we should not overreact in situations like this, because when we experience too much panic there will be a much worse situation. Bitcoin prices declined at rates of 10 percent to 15 percent and that can still be said to be not too excessive. Give confidence to Bitcoin and we will get a situation that is getting better than it is today.

Lol. If anyone gives a statement as specific as that, they don't know what they're talking about. I'm not even sure why there still are people taking these collapse statements seriously. Every now and then especially when a steep dump happens these guys surface.
1887  Economy / Speculation / Re: What happen to bitcoin in this coming year end of 2018? on: November 18, 2018, 08:43:32 AM
We don't know what is next happen to bitcoin. End of this year is near to happen and we will know what is the bottom price of the bitcoin before end of this year 2018. But I hope the price wil increase even slowly so we can get back our capital in a little bit.

Yeah. Who would've thought we'd break the previous bottom this late a time. Past few years had the last quarter performing quite well so it came as a surprise for me that we went below 5.8k. Though it's mid november and we still have a decent amount of time to recover.
1888  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is it true that the market usually rises before the end of the year? on: November 18, 2018, 06:41:49 AM
Have you ever seen the BTC price chart? How does it look? Try to look back, does every year trend is bullish? Indeed the last 3 years trend was bullish but before those years, that wasn’t what happened, the price of Bitcoin at that time didn’t move much and at the end of that year its value decreased. The pattern is not always repeating, especially in crypto.

Well it would be very easy to predict the flow of the market if it follows a certain pattern. That's why you can't really be complacent. A lot of people,including me, expected that the last quarter of this year would propel us to close to 10k. Obviously with the current trend, it's hard to stay positive on that target.
1889  Economy / Speculation / Re: Reason Why BTC will Dump to 2.5K$ on: November 18, 2018, 06:26:03 AM
Maybe people are becoming tired of cryptocurrencies investments and market because of the market behavior this year.  Bitcoin getting dump below $5000 is what I did not expect but everything is very possible.  We should keep our fingers crossed and see what happens in future as I am ready for any market situation.
That is true people are being disappointed with the btc price this year. No signs of bull run that most awaited to happen. This past days price really drops so we should be calm and be hopeful that still it can recover. Let us see the market condition by next year that I think their is new thing to happen.

It's not even a year of this trend and people are getting tired? Nah. Probably those that keep losing money trying to short bitcoin are the ones getting tired losing money. At this point, btc is still at a young stage and growth still is inevitable in the years to come.
1890  Economy / Speculation / Re: What is happening? on: November 18, 2018, 06:21:42 AM
$13billions has just been wiped off of cryptocurrencies market and bitcoin has loss about $700 in just around 4 hour.  I will like to ask the expect here what is really happening?  I believe that for the last seven months bitcoin has not gone down like e this and bitcoin is the most hit.  Ethereum has seriously getting dumped too.  Are we heading towards $3000 as speculated by some of us here or bitcoin is going to recover around $5200.
What is the next step to take? Your advice is highly appreciated.
The price didn't fall too much and the price loss maybe recovered in some hours of time so I don't think it will reach $3000 level speculation because we can see that the price are at the range of $5500 now and hopefully it may cross $6000 again in few days.And this all due to the BCH hard fork as others said since our investors are not having enough knowledge between BTC and BCH.

Yes the price is around $5400 means it is not went as low as BTC was because BTC value was $3000 once. There is some huge amount withdrawn from Bitcoin which made btc value lower but this is just temporary and again it will raise back to more than $6000 just wait for few days and watch it will increase. Lot of investors having the hope in BTC it cannot be easily decreased or ignored in the market.

I agree that the decline had  lot to do with people not having enough knowledge in btc and bch's difference. And it can be very confusing especially if you haven't been that long in this industry. It happened already before though so i'm quite positive that it will positively correct itself pretty quick.
1891  Economy / Speculation / Re: Time to buy on: November 18, 2018, 06:17:54 AM
indeed in general the investment strategy with crypto currency is to buy at a low price, hold and hold and certainly will sell when the price increases and you will certainly benefit
It is general terms of trading so all the investors are follow these steps and it is not workout some times so my suggestion we should active in all time because if you start trading you will alert in right time so we choose the right time of buy and sell in trading then we will continuously concentrate our trading is a good way to achieve the more profit.

Well it's an advantage to be familiar with the market movements of course since the longer you're exposed to it, the more keen your instincts in trading will be. We still don't know if this is the lowest that the value would be for this year but it's more than a decent entry point i guess.
1892  Economy / Speculation / Re: Market's on minimum, time to buy? on: November 18, 2018, 06:14:04 AM
If you are confident that the prices will not go down any further, then you can proceed with your plans to purchase Bitcoin. But I don't think that you can be sure about that now. The trend indicates that the prices will fall even more.

It's really hard to see where the price could end up at this point. But if you wanted to be what they called a bag holder and long term holder then you don't have to be a rocket scientist. Just invest today and don't bother with the price for a year or two. But if you're going to short bitcoin then I say this is not the right time to do that trick.

And i don't think it's a good idea to short bitcoin anyways.  Lots of people lost money trying to do that this year. And who knows if the price would still move down further. It's a risk. Buy now if you plan on making btc a long term investment.
1893  Economy / Speculation / Re: btc's next moves on: November 17, 2018, 09:35:55 AM
We don't know when is the moves of the bitcoin and what happen maybe price decrease or not.  But I hope next moves of the bitcoin will up the price and not decreasing again because it is not good if price still decreasing ike what happen today.

i think i knew..well, lets say it graphic said.it might be opposite but when i said 5100 is on the table, many friends said 6000 is the lowest price for bitcoin.it was 5205 on bittrex.
once again i want to say that, news follow the trend.its not coincidence that big news comes at the critical area of trends.

Well the thing is, there aren't any significant news that pertains ditectly to btc. Bitcoin cash's split probably sent the wrong signals to  lot of btc holders for them to make that big selloff. Though it probably will not last very long.
1894  Economy / Speculation / Re: People are selling the wrong coins, because they are confused. lol on: November 17, 2018, 09:15:07 AM
This drop in the price are based on confusion between Bitcoin <BTC> and Bitcoin Cash.  Grin Grin Grin

The average Crypto currency speculator does not understand the technical difference  between Bitcoin <BTC> and Bitcoin Cash. They read in mainstream media about a Bitcoin war and they think it is happening in Bitcoin <BTC>

The Bitcoin Cash fork has absolutely nothing to do with Bitcoin <BTC>, but these stupid speculators does not understand that, so they run for the hills at the slightest indication of possible instability.

The fork and the war is applicable to Bitcoin Cash not Bitcoin BTC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lol. Yeah since i don't see any major event that could have possibly dragged btc down aside from that. It's quite common that people who have limited knowledge about btc can mistake it for bch and it already happened before. And that reason is why i also think this decline will not be for long.
1895  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin is going to either $10k or $3k by the end of 2018 on: November 17, 2018, 09:10:59 AM
Well, everybody is expecting the bitcoin price to skyrocket again just like the last year 2017 but instead, the bitcoin is full of surprises. The majority of the people around the world are expecting the bitcoin price to reach $10,000 at least but it is currently going downwards maybe it will fall down to $3000. what is your take on the current bitcoin situation?
I think it will not fall down to $3000, hopefully not because I don't see that it will fall down even more this year. Yes, a lot of us are expecting bitcoin to rise up by end of year but I don't also think it will take again like last year, maybe it was just around the average of $5000-$6000. In my opinion, $10k this year is also impossible for bitcoin to reach again.


Not impossible since this market can make a 360 degree turn in a matter of hours. And i think we stil have enough time for a rally to 10k. Though at the moment a lot of us are still surprised about the decline with the bch hardfork the only notable news in the market and i don't think it should affect btc that much.
1896  Economy / Speculation / Re: Your predictions for 2019 on: November 17, 2018, 09:06:40 AM
For the next year I expect the price of the bitcoin to become more than 20k dollars and i think that is really possible to happen. I adjusted my prediction because until now bitcoin did not increase the value thie year 2018 and Im hope that every person here will avoid panic selling.

That's the same expectation a lot of people had for btc this year and we're not even close as the year is about to end. Even old mcafee's prediction of more than 70k to end 2018 is way off the mark so far. This is a market that basically throws predictions out the window.
1897  Economy / Speculation / Re: Next Stop of BTC.....5000$ on: November 17, 2018, 08:55:22 AM
Today market is going down and in a single day 112B$ to 101B$ and still it is going down. Do you think it is getting ready to move up or it will go down further towards 5000$ or more. Track record of BTC shows that it is vrey un-predictive to predict about BTC.
It is obvious that the current movement of bitcoin took everyone by surprise but there is not a reason to panic and to think that we are going to reach such a low price, it is likely the current price is going to remain for a few days or a few weeks and then we're going to go back to normality and the price of bitcoin will be above 6000 as it has been for the last months.

Well as you said, it's extremely unpredictable so it doesn't make a lot of sense to try and foresee what direction it will take from here. We've been a little complacent with the previous stagnant price that the dump shook a lot of people. Guess we just have to prepare for whatever will happen in 1 and a half month.
1898  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin will rise again in 2019 on: November 17, 2018, 08:52:31 AM
bitcoin will rise again in 2019.

seeing the development of bitcoin at the end of the year is indeed very worrying for investors to remain strong for now because bitcoib in early 2019 will rise again ...

What do you think??
LOL are you a fortune teller that can tell what will happen tomorrow?
2019 will an extension of what we are having now,because the bubble of 2017 is still on process for recovery and this will take long before we will taste it again
So better not to expect of become another failure again
well, besides that, there is no news, or really real information, that can make the price of bitcoin, or other altcoins recover in 2019. we can only expect that to happen soon. well, but I hope the price will recover soon before the new year.

Well there's also the aspects of whales playing with the market though. I agree that it'll probably have very little difference from what's happening now to the start of 2019 but that is if we look at the natural way of how the market works. Whales can change that in a small amount of time.
1899  Economy / Speculation / Re: Get ready for the bull market!!! on: November 17, 2018, 08:45:29 AM
LOL, you all dumbtards!!

<blah blah blah> worthless piece of shit rolling in dust <blah blah blah>

All you dumb morons <blah blah blah> you greedy fucks <blah blah blah> brain dead zombies <blah blah blah> you fkn idiots.

This sums it up in short for those of you who don't want to read the our preacher's wise words Cheesy
Posts like this one are usually made by idiots who held and sold in panic losing ultimately getting less fiat out than they had put in. Post like this one always appear after a long and exhausting bear market is coming to an end. Be happy if you bought some coins today, I sure am.



If I was an idiot then I would be like you, having no clue how to read markets and just clutching on to coins like total dumbfucks hoping against hope. I made 6 figure profit on just a $15k investment when I cashed out most of my coins in mid Jan cuz I knew what was about to hit. It's dumb millennials like you having no idea about market trends, you just pick few buzz words and then act like you know anything.

Who's the smarter one here, one with many times over profit or the one holding onto coins worth cheaper than dirt and in deep negative equity? I guess for an idiot like you, it would still be very difficult to answer it. For me, if I were to enter the market again, the entry cost points are already rock bottom and a very small initial investment could again turn into an easy bonanza unlike you fools who would have to wait very looooooong price climb just to recover initial investment.  You don't know even the basics of investment, kid  Grin  Grin
Exactly, you will lead to a trap if you don't know or if you have a lack of knowledge in crypto market with analytical analysis at least. This kind of mindset is the worst part of being a crypto users, because they continue to do certain mistakes from the past. Please guys, the crypto has a lot of opportunity to deal with, but put this on your mind... many of us are greedy in money so don't be an idiot like before.

I don't think the guy really understands what he's saying anyways. Anyone can randomly say prepare for a bull market without anything to back it up. People have been prepared and have grown tired of expecting a lot of times already because they're paying attention to these kinds of statements.
1900  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is bitcoin worthy to buy ? right now? on: November 17, 2018, 08:38:56 AM
Right now bitcoin price is very low, some investor are investing their money for buying bitcoin.
is bitcoin worthy to buy ? right now?
Do you agree with this or not ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,???


Bitcoin prices are currently in a stable correction, and it seems that the prices we see today are the lowest prices especially for this final quarter. It seems we deserve to buy bitcoin from now until the end of December 2018, because maybe in the upcoming 2019 period we can no longer see the price of bitcoin as low as now.
Lol. People have been saying that all throughout this year. I personally thought  that btc already bottomed out at 5.8k but obviously i thought wrong. Just goes to show how unpredictable this market is. If you feel good and confident about this sudden dump then it's always a good time to buy.
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