so far ~7M tokens were sold. if you want to track down how many sold in different milestones, see the blog on idni.org. in general there is no distinction between buyers on zennet's time to tau's time. presale is for all tokens (namely 97% not counting the "premine"). to see the latest price calculations cf the end of the "project roadmap" blogpost.
i didn't understand the last question

(ignore the misquoting, originals above)

thanks for your level-headed responses.

I wanted to revisit this part. as I interpret it as backwards.
Currently the market is about half the price as buying from the IPO (which is partly a sell wall on the market and available direct from the website.)
the only way that it could sell for more on the market than from IPO would cause the IPO to sell out very quickly. I assume there is a quick turnaround time from posting an investment and receiving your coins even if its not instant/automated.

there can be many more good surprises. for example, the largest btc website in china (8btc) interviewed me and now translating it to chinese, while idni.org and youtube aren't even accessible from china (we made a mirror on idni.io). in the interview i also mentioned routers.space (recall the great firewall of china). interestingly there were a qq group of more than 40 chinese tau fans even before the mirror idni.io was up.
also i always get contacted by large firms. last one was Keyrus. i know that large firms have quite different state of mind than ours, but i guess over time the probability that some nice deal will be established, is high. especially after tau is ready or after partnering with another firm for the sake of the hardware side of routers.space

moreover, all along we do keep the marketing energies for after tau is ready, as now we really need the energies for dev. new materials (website, videos) are being made in the background, quite slowly as we prioritize dev

can see my english answers to 8btc at https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ifcIcQcHBtrUsLFw0kfSA1zI_wX8SINFiujTgGxhgXc/edit?usp=sharing

Opa blz! Consegui obrigado!

Cara com certeza, quanto mais coisas melhor.

Mas acho que tem que ir além.

Rw13enlib88 você é desenvolvedor? Faz parte da equipe?

This..
the whole page of math fuckery by Rw13enlib88 about ico pricing is idiotic.
It's called research. Is what you do when you care for your money.

The ico will likely continue for a long time just as it has been going on for a long time. or until is all sold
The ico will conclude when tau language + agoras coin development is ready for release. or until is all sold

im going to go on a limb and attribute the questioning to one of two things.
1. Rw13enlib88 doesnt trust ohad with all those coins. False
2. Rw13enlib88 thinks bitcoin will go so high that it will be trivial to buy out the project. True

1. I'd say ohad and team have been working long and hard enough to have proven they are not going to dump the tokens. reminder, it has been over 1.5 years. if you dont trust the team dont invest.

As I've said in my first post, it's my first time in AGRS. So I didnt trust them. After the research I've see the difference between this coin and the rest of the coins.
Both in terms of ICO and project

2. just because you hold bitcoin to $10k/btc and your purchasing power of a 22 cent token has increased doesnt mean it has for everyone.

yes it has for everyone with bitcoin

 for example someone who wants to buy an agoras token when bitcoin costs 10k will still have to spend 22 cents.

That's the point, you can buy from IPO at 22cents and from market at (lets guess) 2$.
Someone will buy from IPO and sell it to the market.
Which is not that bad because the project gets funded and there are more coins available for little investors.

(i do not personally believe its reasonable to think bitcoin will go back over a thousand a coin in the next few months.)

574$ now. you just need 75% price increase to achieve 1,000$
What had happened in the last months??

Personally I dont think the way the ico has gone so far is a good way to manage an ico. (extended time period including open market trading) but i dont have a solution and its far enough along that it doesnt matter. as ICOcountdown said, the long term rolling crowdfund allows them to continue to use funds raised for continuing development.

IPO is Ok


scenario a:
the current tokens price never takes off. it always sells for under the current ico price at the time. ohad and team work longer with less available funding. only 10% sells. 90% gets burnt

I give 10% probablity to this scenario
Given the situation in stock market+economy+currencywar, Bitcoin has 90% probabilities of moving to the next adoption phase in the next months

scenario b:
as a release becomes announced and testing begins maybe a la maidsafe style with MVP product etc. the interest increases, the price increases to match the sell side. at some point weeks later and a few price increases later the tokens are sold out and speculative open trading continues until full launch.

This scenario depends on 2 things:
- MVP product launch
- Bitcoin price increment timing
I dont know any of them. Only the team knows the first thing

these are extreme scenarios. though its been off to a slow fundraising start this past year i think the original goal was to raise $4-6 million. there have been plenty of icos lately raise that level of money.


Not extreme scenarios, but not likely in my opinion
We're not in the same situation as we were in 2015
This IPO is not a wellknown IPO.
This project needs more marketing

Quais os nodes da Gua?

Não estou conseguindo conectar.

You are really a nasty person. And you have not been following this coin because then you have seen that it changed from local to global coin. You just want to pump this coin with some shittalk. That is called scamming.

I paid ppl to vote it into  Cryptopia. I put buy support when ppl dumped. Im not crying because I did not lose anything. Some ppl have invested a lot in this and there is no development. You are angry because someone is dumping. I should maybe have sold my coins before I asked questions but I have hold for a long time so it dont matter to much.

Concentrating all marketing efforts on a small but specific and well defined segment of the population. Niches do not 'exist' but are 'created' by identifying needs, wants, and requirements that are being addressed poorly or not at all by other firms, and developing and delivering goods or services to satisfy them. As a strategy, niche marketing is aimed at being a big fish in a small pond instead of being a small fish in a big pond. Also called micromarketing.

http://www.businessdictionary.com/definition/niche-marketing.html#ixzz4AdE7gXkV

Fuds, keep dumping the coin. Them i can buy more and more.
Haha

500$     = 1btc --> 22cents$ = 0.00044btc = 440,000sat, did you mean 44,000 satoshis?

Should be stopped as soon as possible IPO

This is like a standard IPO except the rules of distribution are slightly tweaked as this is a long duration IPO this gives plenty of time for investors to buy in so no one can complain about missing it if it has been available to buy not for 1 months but for over 8 months now and possibly even more than another 5+ months

It has been noted before , these coins are representations of tokens that will be converted at the time the economical aspect of tau-chain is implemented . Unsold coins will be destroyed if they are  not sold

i'm tired, hold for 2 year but nothing 

First of all SLG went from a local coin to an global coin. And if you vote brexit you should know that it will cost a lot. You have to pay taxes for all exports and more. UK and my country always votes nearly the same. So its not good for us to lose a partner. London have been a great financial city. With an exit it will change a lot. EU will not give away free things.The best you can get if you exit is a deal like Norway has. Brexit dont tell this.

SLG will not benefit from a brexit or no exit. There are a lot of coins and BTC is the best coin to use. I supported SLG because it was well developed before it was released. It had known devs that where very transparent about what they were doing. Now the coin has no development for more than a year. Just talks that say it will happen in the future and some weird pump tries with the brexit.

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minha wallet!

=D

More than 90% in devs hand, that's a lot even if you dont follow the cryptospace financial structure

20centsx5weeksx5%=25cents of $ ?

Still, early buyers have to be incentivized. We had a weekly 2% raise in price and recently suspended it. But from May 1 the price per token we sell at will be 20 cents, going up 5% monthly /quote]

so far ~7M tokens were sold. if you want to track down how many sold in different milestones, see the blog on idni.org. in general there is no distinction between buyers on zennet's time to tau's time. presale is for all tokens (namely 97% not counting the "premine"). to see the latest price calculations cf the end of the "project roadmap" blogpost.
i didn't understand the last question

Still, early buyers have to be incentivized. We had a weekly 2% raise in price and recently suspended it. But from May 1 the price per token we sell at will be 20 cents, going up 5% monthly (recall it has nothing to do with prices people sell at on the exchange). Beginning from today we offer the following wholesale discount: every additional 10K tokens will give additional 5% discount. So if one purchases 30K tokens, the price for the first 10K is the regular price, then a 5% discount on the next 10K tokens, then 10% discount on the subsequent 10K tokens. All purchasers via email receive a tax invoice with their desired recipient name. A buyer that agrees not to receive the intermediate tokens but only the final coins gets additional 15% discount. The total marginal discount will never go below 50% (as to be fair with earlier buyers).

Será que as intenções são boas ou tem alguem com muitas GUA querendo vender? 

Acho que alguém com uma boa quantidade de btc podia comprar as gua coin na bleutrade pra alavancar a moeda. Juntos a gente consegue valorizar a moeda.