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1981  Economy / Speculation / Re: What will January 2016 bring? on: January 29, 2016, 12:35:03 PM
end of january is so disgusting price move slowly like a turtle, price move up and down very slowly this is happened in this week. what going on with this situation, it's very hard to get some profit this weeks.

i never trade when the price isn't moving much, i just relax and do other stuff not related to bitcoin. i tried to do some trading on slow days but it's not worth it. staring at the price ticker all days for a measy profit is not worth the time. i only trade when there is real market action.

I think it is good to buy some and forget about it for a few months. The price could rise in a few months.

that's good advice for people who can't handle the volatile market as it is. but i think the bitcoin price at this point can go up significantly at any time. people will have a hard time forcing themself to forget about bitcoin for a certain period of time.
1982  Economy / Speculation / Re: $400 will not survive the weekend on: January 29, 2016, 12:30:40 PM
I think we have to wait till march to see price hike.I suggest do not panic with this price fall and keep holding the btc that you have or buy some more as there is a strong possibility of price reaching new hike in March

the closer we come to the block halving, the higher we can expect the bitcoin price to be. we have seen the price behave exactly like it is doing now, and back then a lot people were thinking the price to tank further, but the opposite was the case. the price started to go up and all people who sold at lower price levels have bought back their coins at a premium.
1983  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: January 28, 2016, 01:41:49 PM
for me, the gold for long term and bitcoin for short-term

bitcoin is definitely a long term investment as the current price is nothing more than peanuts compared to the price a few years later from now. gold on the other hand is an okay long term investment. bitcoin has way more room for potential growth.
1984  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will BTC reach $600 during the first month of the new year? on: January 28, 2016, 01:37:30 PM
it's very easy to reach $700 Roll Eyes
we will see it before 1 feb 2016

bitcoin rise and rise again to the moon Smiley


very easy to reach $700 before february 1? you really have no idea about how markets work. if it was really that easy, then we would already be at that price level. we might be happy to see the price stay slightly above $400 when we enter february. i hope your wrong prediction won't make you upset and sell at a loss. keep holding and who knows, we might reach $700 later this year once the block halving has been completed. patience is the key to profit.
1985  Economy / Speculation / Re: $2k in january on: January 28, 2016, 01:29:43 PM
bitcoin is going to $2k in january and $4k 1 minute after block halving.  be prepared... be very prepared

Impossible. 4 days left and the price is still under 400$.
Why would people still bumping this thread though? Lock the thread please.

If the price can be over $400 by 31 January, it is very good the price performance. The price has risen a lot over the last 6 months.

even when the price is still below $400 and above $380, then the price has still performed well. current price is just temporary. i think the real action will start 1 or 2 months before the block halving. then people will regret that they didn't buy at current prices.
1986  Economy / Economics / Re: Does the Price of Bitcoin Matter? on: January 28, 2016, 01:07:32 PM
If you want to buy something there is a price needed. So yes the price is very important.
Without it, there is no use in trade etc.

we will always be tied to a certain bitcoin price as long as 1 bitcoin is still worth $380 and not 1 bitcoin to be worth 1 bitcoin. merchants will never allow you to buy stuff without bitcoin being tied to $$$. i don't think we'll ever see this change.
1987  Economy / Economics / Re: Investing Bitcoins? on: January 28, 2016, 01:02:33 PM
You need money to make more money. Sitting on your bitcoins and waiting for a price increase could make you some quick bucks but investing may bring more profit.

sitting on your bitcoins as in holding is not a quick way to make money if the price doesn't go up nearly 20-50% in just a week. investing in some things as altcoins (which i don't consider to be a proper investment as it is more like gambling) can make you a quick profit in a very short time. but of course, there is waaay more risk involved then.
1988  Economy / Speculation / Re: Aren't we in a state of denial? on: January 28, 2016, 12:57:39 PM
if you just look at the long term growth, then you can see that bitcoin has been increasing nicely. peaks come and go and same goes up for the lows that we reach several times a year. just keep your eyes pointed towards the long term charts and you'll be fine.
1989  Economy / Speculation / Re: Okcoin/ Huobi is owned by China Government on: January 28, 2016, 12:54:39 PM
okcoin and huobi aren't owned by the chinese government. the chinese government can easily buy up all bitcoins in existence even if they cause the price to rise massively. also, the chinese government have had a great chance to buy at sub $100 prices in 2012/2013. these exchanges are definitely up to something, but it has no connections to any government.
1990  Economy / Speculation / Re: What will January 2016 bring? on: January 27, 2016, 03:00:49 PM
end of january is so disgusting price move slowly like a turtle, price move up and down very slowly this is happened in this week. what going on with this situation, it's very hard to get some profit this weeks.

i never trade when the price isn't moving much, i just relax and do other stuff not related to bitcoin. i tried to do some trading on slow days but it's not worth it. staring at the price ticker all days for a measy profit is not worth the time. i only trade when there is real market action.
1991  Economy / Speculation / Re: 2016 crash has begun! on: January 27, 2016, 02:58:13 PM
There's no permanent crash in bitcoin. We went down from $420 few weeks ago, but right now we are recovering back to $400. Also this is not a big crash if you compare this with 2015 crash. This is only monthly pump and dump.

these ups and downs that we see nowadays will be nothing compared to what we will go through as soon as the block halving pump begins. that's when people will start to go nuts.
1992  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin in 2020 on: January 27, 2016, 02:54:57 PM
bitcoin will either be worth a lot or end up being worth nothing. i believe in the long term potential of bitcoin and that we will see the price break through $1000 again and stay above that price level. i don't think in terms of bitcoin reaching $5000 or $10000 while we haven't seen the price at $1000 yet. once we hit $1000 then we'll be thinking in the range of $2000 as being the new target.
1993  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What regular people think about bitcoin ? on: January 27, 2016, 02:51:34 PM
My friend told me Bitcoin is virtual, only some digital number in the computers! It has no value at all! The price will collapse any times soon!

Normal people think bitcoin to be some technology based business in which people get involved and within a short period they end up saying that the technology busted or the market went down making a great loss for users
Any business can be done by bitcoin. lay people think that they do not believe what can be done by bitcoin. and they were wrong.

that's mostly due to the fact that the media is wrong about bitcoin. the average joe is the kind of people who nearly believe anything that come from the media. it's sad but the hard reality.
1994  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Where get information for fundamental analysis to btc trading? on: January 27, 2016, 02:05:43 PM
in the speculation section there are some good thread with soem info on ta, you can check there

some threads are indeed very informational to read through, but there is way too much spam and trolls trying to derail the treads. especially the wall observer thread. some times it looks like a war zone instead of a normal thread where people share their analysis and such.
1995  Economy / Economics / Re: Big Crash coming on: January 27, 2016, 02:01:09 PM
If there'll be a crash it means the elites what it to be that way so they can increase their bitcoin holdings cheaper than if they do it now.

they have done so already when the prices were in the range of $200-$300. they had plenty of time to accumulate. right now they are just waiting to make good profits.
1996  Economy / Speculation / Re: BITCOIN going up or down on: January 27, 2016, 01:48:10 PM
Bitcoin prices can not most probably go down as the prices have been increasing for 3 months now and it doesn't happen often that the prices are so high. Last time also the price dropped by $100 in a month and hence even if it drops to $300, it can be a good rate to buy bitcoins. Currently, I am just waiting to see if it's stable at the current rate.

everything is possible when it comes to bitcoin. we've seen plenty of unexpected stuff happen before where the price was dumped down to sub $200 price levels where most people said it will never go sub $200 ever again. it's better to keep a realistic view on things i have learned.
1997  Economy / Speculation / Re: why I bought on: January 27, 2016, 01:45:03 PM
Yes, buy and hold is a standard nowadays but the question is who's going to buy then if most people are already selling once the price doubles as predicted.

smart traders will wait for the dumping to be over and buy back at the lower price levels. if the demand keeps increasing then the price might eventually go x4 from current price. which means that you'll still make a profit when you buy at the doubled price as you say.
1998  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin is EXACTLY where it needs to be right now, what the hell! on: January 27, 2016, 01:40:51 PM
I'm not sure where you live but sending 100 bucks from one bank account to another costs zero fee in my country. Holding the bank account is free too. So how should i explain why bitcoin needs higher fees now?

It's different when it comes to sending over country borders but rarely i get to know a person that needs to do this regularly.

The other advantage is the speed of course. But how long until we have fees like paypal have?

here in the netherlands sending money from one bank to the other is also free. holding a bank account is not free here. it costs between €1-€2 per month for normal bank accounts. bank accounts for business purposes are more expensive. if you send money from bank (a) before 2pm, then the money will show up before 5pm in bank (b). if it's done after 2pm, then it will post the next working day. if you send money to the same bank, then it will post instantly.
1999  Economy / Speculation / Re: is it time to sell? on: January 26, 2016, 10:46:41 PM
Buying now can be very profitable but yet I am silent.
For me there is still a feeling we may go back quite some dollars.
Even to 300 dollars, since the market seems very instable.

the market is moving slow lately, but i think we won't see the price fall down to $300 as the demand above that price level is quite high. the lowest i can see the price fall back is probably $360 for now. if it falls below that price level, then the floor will probably be $340-$350.
2000  Economy / Speculation / Re: Back to $ 400 soon? on: January 26, 2016, 10:41:35 PM
What can be major influence for bitcoin for start Skyrocketing?

reaching an agreement about the block size issue is what can give the bitcoin price a massive boost. other than that there isn't much that will trigger the rocket to take off. at this point we need to wait and aim our focus on the block halving.
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