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1121  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: how to start trading with a very small amount on: May 24, 2016, 08:57:42 PM
as i am a newbie.. i know nothing about trading... what should i do to start trading and multiply my btc.. guys please help me
if you know nothing about trading,then you should learn it,googling some plan and way to be good trader,and then dont hurry to practice,if you should practice,make sure you put small amount first. or you should buy bitcoin now,and keep it until halving come,and then sell your bitcoin,simple trading with good profit.
I guess, to get familiar with trading, we must start with Forex trail account trading. A lot of companies are providing FOREX trail accounts. This will get us many ideas of trading aspects like predicting future trend and analysing affecting factors.
In my experience, bitcoin trading is not different from any other trading. So, we must practice more in trail accounts before touching trading with bitcoins.
Yes, with trial account kind of trading we can develop our skills like analysing charts and interpreting various trading symbols and patterns. But for a trading with very small amount, we must need very strong skills to make profits.

the problem with investing small amounts is that people tend to take much higher risks as the amount is low. they think that even if their investment doesn't pay off, that their loss is very small. that's not the right mentality when it comes to investing. every amount that you invest into something must be a well thought decision.
1122  Economy / Speculation / Re: Stable Bitcoin Price on: May 24, 2016, 08:43:11 PM
A stable bitcoin is far from now, the bitcoin has to grow a lot to accomplish this, on a long term I consider it as possible.
We can only find this out in my opinion because this kind of things cannot be predicted.

we've had quite a stable period not long ago. i think more stable than what we have seen is just not possible. a lot people were very bored because the price was not moving at all. these people will be happy with the volatility now. traders want the price to keep moving as it allows them to make profit in quite a short time. the majority of the people don't like stability. i personally don't mind stability, but i also don't mind volatility as it allows me to make profits.
1123  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC price for 2016 on: May 24, 2016, 08:35:59 PM
I voted for > $500 because I've missed the last $1000 bitcoin party!

 Cheesy  Cheesy  Cheesy

If you buy now and hold for a few years, the price will defiintely go above $1000 in the next few years.

Sure but we may see above 1000 this year to i have hope for this
I got in this when it was last time 1000 and now i wait for another

what's the point of dreaming about unrealistic high prices to happen this year? it will only result in you being disappointed as the price will not come even close to the $1000 price level this year. we may see $1000 maybe at the end of 2017 or maybe even in 2018 if the price goes up slowly.
1124  Economy / Economics / Re: The future of the paper money on: May 24, 2016, 08:30:39 PM
The future of the paper money is not so good because everything in the future is gonna be digital.
The advantages of that are that its of course way safer and easier with payments, due to this fact at the end the paper money will disappear.

So how or what is your view in those third world countries? Are they ready to use the fully digital transaction? And do you think that is easy to do even we count for a decades?

Please make some research that not all countries can hug and support all digital means of transaction.
I am from third world country and I know what is the exact scenario, to be honest bitcoin is still no where, very few are aware about it and even in future people will prefer to use paper money.

third world countries will always have paper money as their preference as they don't have internet access all the time. that will most likely never change unless the government or wealthy companies there decide to roll out proper internet in well crowded places.
1125  Economy / Economics / Re: I'm not gonna sell any coin. on: May 24, 2016, 08:24:13 PM
Selling your bitcoins can also be good if you really need the money but if you do not need the money its not worth it in my opinion.
Holding now is better with the halving that is coming this year, the most people are saying that the halving is gonna be profitable and I trust in this.

Its just an speculation that price will be higher at the time of halving, to be honest none of us is sure whether price will increase or decrease at the time of halving.

that's why i find it very weird that some people believe the price to go up to $800 or $1000 in some cases. that just doesn't make sense. they don't know what kind of buying power and buy support is needed to get the price to rise and keep rising till a certain price level.
1126  Economy / Speculation / Re: Can bitcoin rise up to 800$ this year ? on: May 23, 2016, 12:11:09 PM
The bitcoin can easily rise to a higher amount this year, 800 dollar is nothing with what the halving can reach in my eyes.

You never know what will happen. But I don't think it is possible to reach that high value this year maximum 750$ we can see. And that wont be good. I hope later that there will be more people that believe in Bitcoin and that they also going to use it.

even the $600 price level is a very difficult target to be reached this year. it's quite shocking that so many people expect such high prices to happen this year. just look at how the market has been performing lately. the only bit of demand has been there because of the block halving. that doesn't mean the price will not go up from todays price levels, but realize that as soon as we touch $500 the price can start tanking at any moment.
1127  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 49 days till the halving, time is flying now on: May 23, 2016, 11:43:15 AM
nothing will happen at the halving, at this point i'm expecting something major later this year or even early 2017

Beside the block halving and perhaps a very short lasting price increase due to the block size being increased, nothing interesting will happen the rest of this year and next year.

based on the fact that pump occur with a higher probability in the late part of the year(2013 with 1200 ath, 2015 with the return to 500 etc...) i'm fairly certain that something will happen within this year, no expecting crazy thign like 2k or more

but something around a pump to reach 500-1k range is very possible

you have been long enough into bitcoin to know how markets works and you still think it's possible to reach $1000 this year? how so? if you are looking at the current market from a realistic point of view, then even $600 might be out of reach.
1128  Economy / Speculation / Re: is it time to sell? on: May 23, 2016, 11:39:40 AM
Now is literally the worst time to sell & anybody that tells you is trolling or has a personal agenda to make the price go down.

I think so... probably with halving there is the possibility for an "emotional" pump ... more people try to buy just for the hype ...

it's well known that pumps don't last. so if there is indeed a pump in the runup to the block halving, then you'll need to make sure you exit the market at the right moment. my guess is that the price top the coming months will be $550 at most. i will make sure i sell on time to re-enter the market at lower price levels to increase my coins.
1129  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why is the price dropping? on: May 23, 2016, 11:34:47 AM
Price continues to grow, just for few weeks the price has been stagnant. This could continue to increase within weeks or at the time of halving.
At the moment the price is not dropping but rising and it continues to rise. We are going to reach 500 dollar soon maybe this or next month.
I am excited because I have been waiting to sell some coins.
The price isn't rising since it touched $500 back in November last year.

The price is just moving between the well known price levels for quite some months without anything special happening.

The price will rise when the block size is increased to 2MB or more. If there is no increase, it will drop again.

i also think the price will go up when 2mb blocks are implenented, but the only question is, how long will the impact of the block size increase remain visible?
1130  Economy / Speculation / Re: That's it, $440 was the bottom. on: May 23, 2016, 10:17:46 AM
Eh, anything could happen. We could hit $100, $250, or even 1k. It all depends on supply and demand.

realistically it will most likely not go below $300 this year, but that doesn't mean the price will not try to test the lower $300 price levels. bitcoin will never stop surprising people. weird things can happen with enough panic going through the markets.
1131  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin in 2020 on: May 23, 2016, 10:11:45 AM
They say the bitcoin will be 10.000 in the year of 2020 do you think so? I don't by the way how can he rise
that much in such a small period. If you look at the last years he didn't rises allot so don't be to happy about it.

it's not reasonable i think stable at $5000 is enough

Damn you know 2020 isnt that far away right lol.

So to think anything near 5k seems absurd, and that would mean its a easy $10k for someone hold 2 btc.
The bad thing of Bitcoin is that it would be really hard to know what is going to happen in the future with Bitcoin and that is the problem of the currency.
But you must also to take some risks with Bitcoin otherwise it will be not possible to make any profit.

lol? bad thing of bitcoin? look at stocks, other fiat currencies, oil, gold etc. you also don't know what their price will do in the future, but i never hear people complaining or saying that it is bad that you don't know what will happen. don't blame bitcoin for something that isn't its fault.
1132  Economy / Economics / Re: Do You Think Bitcoin Will Replace Dollar Soon? on: May 23, 2016, 10:01:44 AM
I don't think that bitcoin can make dollar dissapear, also dollar is trusted and very stable currency, bitcoin need many years to reach this greatnes as dollar did.

bitcoin is just an alternative to fiat currencies, and that's it. it will never come even close to 5% of the total market cap of the us dollar. and there is no need for this to happen as bitcoin has given us the opportunity to choose for something that allows us to transact and hold money outside the banking system. that's all we need, and the best thing of all.... it's here and ready to be used. Wink

I think for now, it is not close to 5% of the total market cap of the us dollar. Still I am positive that the users of bitcoins will significantly increase in the future, as long as we remain supportive and bitcoins will be stable we can see some actions in the future from big companies and people will be adopting too.

at this point it's not even close to 1% of the market cap of the us dollar. that 5% was just an example. yes, of course the adoption rate by people will go up each year, but it's not enough to get the price to climb up to insanely high price levels as some people like to believe.
1133  Economy / Speculation / Re: That's it, $440 was the bottom. on: May 22, 2016, 05:19:34 PM
Well I have to eat those words since we are there again  Undecided
But it is not going down it is just staying right at $440 so that is the bottom  Cheesy

$440 has never been a bottom. even $400 isn't a real bottom. people like to think that the price will never go below a certain price level because they are invested. i am sure that if they look at things from a realistic point of view that they will realize that there is barely anything keeping the price away from sub $400 prices, even now. literally no price level is safe. and even if some price levels get "supported" with solid buy order created by bots, it's not what it seems. bots will in 99% of the times pull back their support as soon as the price comes very close to their trigger levels.
1134  Economy / Economics / Re: Do You Think Bitcoin Will Replace Dollar Soon? on: May 22, 2016, 05:13:27 PM
I don't think that bitcoin can make dollar dissapear, also dollar is trusted and very stable currency, bitcoin need many years to reach this greatnes as dollar did.

bitcoin is just an alternative to fiat currencies, and that's it. it will never come even close to 5% of the total market cap of the us dollar. and there is no need for this to happen as bitcoin has given us the opportunity to choose for something that allows us to transact and hold money outside the banking system. that's all we need, and the best thing of all.... it's here and ready to be used. Wink
1135  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC going up for 500$ again ? ::) on: May 22, 2016, 03:34:44 PM
Bitcoin will be a higher value soon and that is because there are now more people also going to hold their coin so that is nice but they have to wait a long time until it will be a higher value.
And the bad thing is that you are not for sure when it will reach that high value so that can be risky.

I have some patience. I will wait for the price to go very high and then use the bitcoin to buy a house.

Yeah but if you need to buy a house then you need to hold your coins for a very long time, as you can buy a house only if the price of bitcoin reaches to the moon.

you'll need to hold at least 100 coins to sell them at a price of $5000-$10,000 in order to buy yourself a house and have some money aside. people that were early had the great chance to buy their coins well below $50 back in the days. those that have bought their coins at such price levels are very happy if they kept holding till now. and those that didn't buy will only be dreaming and wondering what would happen if they had bought at such incredibly low prices.
1136  Economy / Economics / Re: If Bitcoin had a stable price, would it still be as popular? on: May 22, 2016, 03:22:06 PM
I think price stability will  attract more new investors to invest their money into bitcoin, as if price is stable they will have trust in it and they would prefer to invest in it.

If the bitcoin is as stable as the US dollar and other major currencies, its value will be similar to the dollar.

Price stability of bitcoin needs to be more adjusted since it is a digital currency and decentralized I don't it would be easy for bitcoin
to have a stable price, but for me, I'm considering it also to have a good effect and bad effect for it.

even in major fiat currencies there is no real stability. it's a market that goes up and down, either by legit market movements or due to manipulation. bitcoin is no exception here. volatility is a very important aspect of bitcoin. it attracts traders and thus it secures itself a way to get new money entering the market. new money is the most important aspect to realize growth.
1137  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin can not replace fiat on: May 22, 2016, 03:13:08 PM
As of today, bitcoin wouldn't really replace fiat since fiat is controlled by the government and bitcoin isn't. And citizens are depending on what
the government will going to implement, if the government will implement bitcoin as their currency then it would probably change fiat.

one of the very few comments here that makes sense. it's indeed all up to the government. if they want to implement anything other than their own fiat money, then it will happen. if they prefer to stick to it for another 50-100 years, then it will of course stay for another 50-100 years. bitcoin can't change that.
1138  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it a good long term investment to buy 1 BTC today? on: May 22, 2016, 03:10:06 PM
Holding 1 btc for next couple of months can be really good, as we are expecting higher price at the time of halving as price will be much higher at the end of the year.

Well that's for sure, doubling your btc I guess and increasing the price of it , the things that will going to happen once the bitcoin halving happens
and many of bitcoin users were gonna be happy that time but I don't think for the miners.

Mining is not more profitable in my sense but I would prefer to go for trading to earn some extra bitcoins before the stage of halving.

mining bitcoin for the normal person is indeed not profitable. but it's completely different for mining farms. they can even make profit if the price goes down to lower $300's at this point.
1139  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: May 21, 2016, 01:51:45 PM
fiat money or btc? if btc hold it until price go up

You can read the title, obviously he's asking about fiat money. of fiat money better investment in bitcoin then hold for halving.
I think if you've kept the bitcoin would be better if you do it your bitcoin growth. so while waiting for prices to rise. you can do a short-term investment. it will be multiple benefits right ?
That's right, so you can collect more when halving occurs. but I prefer do not hold, I use all my bitcoin for capital, because I want to grow bigger.

If you want to  grow your bitcoin then I think trading will help you in the best possible way, and its better to grow your coins rather then just keeping them idle.

trading is in fact one of the best ways to increase the amount of coins that you have. if you have enough experience in trading, then you can make yourself a more than decent profit every month. all this is assuming you have a decent balance for trading purposes.
1140  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: May 21, 2016, 01:47:41 PM
I am gonna choose gold now, but i am sure that i will change my mind after halving but if price will not increase high nothing will change.
before halving or after halving I would still choose bitcoin. because I love these commodities and currencies. If you already love him you would believe the bitcoin and its future
i believe bitcoin , i beleive bitcoin can survive for long time, but i can't put all money at bitcoin, i save my  money at some place, bitcoin , etherum, XVG, fiat etc.

of course we must believe bitcoin, but you can risking your life just for invest your money at bitcoin.

Invest in multiple products to earn good in future, as we don't know which product will perform better in future, if one fails the other will take care of our investments.

I agree with you guys, if you invest in multiple investments or products the higher chance of earning bigger but you need to consider that
if you can really manage multiple investments but if not you are just wasting your money and time.
But if you can then you are going to be have more positive outcome.

You need to research well before investing in any product, as I don't have faith in online investments at this stage but investing in gold and bitcoin can help us in long run.

a lot people here just yolo "invest" hoping to see the price reach very high price levels in a very short time. they probably don't even know the definition of doing research before investing. these people mostly end up with disappointment after another disappointment.
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