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1181  Economy / Economics / Re: Actually the bitcoin market is very small on: May 16, 2016, 04:46:39 PM
the market cap of bitcoin is indeed very low if you consider the future potential of this piece of technology. that's why it's a great long term (+5 years) investment. i keep saying this to everyone ; buy today and keep holding for years. with enough patience you'll see the coins that you bought increase in value significantly.
1182  Other / Archival / Re: should i save btc for future? on: May 16, 2016, 02:29:52 PM
i have a little doubt about btc price in future.should i save btc for increasing value of bitcoin?

or maybe price of btc will be down in 5-10 year
just imagine about future of btc and tell me should i save bitcoins for future or not...?

if you have doubts about price in future i can say that price will be much larger than now as in 2 months we will have bitcoin block reward halving, so price will rise then for sure

so i think that it is really worth to invest in bitcoins and save them for year, or even more than 2 years as bitcoins will be more popular later so their price will rise too

Saving for more than 2 years is not profitable. In 2 years I can make more money by using it actively in exchanges rather to save it for years. If price will bloom in the next 2 years I will get more value in terms of exchange rather than the fixed value of those save coins.

if you can make great profits which allow you to make more than when you would simply hold your coins, then it's a great thing. however, only a very few percentage of the traders can do this. holding isn't difficult and everyone can do it if they have enough patience. even the worst noobs can do it. that's why it's an attractive way of making money.
1183  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC price to 600 ? on: May 16, 2016, 02:16:34 PM
i think the price of bitcoin will touch to $600 soon. and i hope it will happen before halving so after halving we can see the price more high than we prediction.

it's more likely that the price goes down after the block halving as people will cash out the coins that they bought at todays prices or even below $400. you just need to make sure you sell before others do. best selling time will be just before the block halving. if you wait till after the block halving you may risk losing some of your profits as the price will be heading down.
1184  Economy / Speculation / Re: It is Buy time! on: May 16, 2016, 02:06:42 PM
Anytime is buy time if you think the price will be higher later on.

I think only that time is right, when the price is low, and you should know that later on the price will be increased, than you get a profit, but if you buy the bitcoin at this price $500, so how can you get profit. so think about it and than buy it.
It is not the best time that you can buy but if you want to make an investment in Bitcoin than it will be also not that worst now if you are making an investment around this time because the value is not even that high.
But you have to be quick because it is going to rise slowly and that would be perfect.

You got a good point there. I don't consider the current moment a good way to invest or buy bitcoins, since the price seems a little bit high at the moment. Just look how much resistance the price find it self now, It's clear that 500 USD will either not happen or happen with a lot of effort.

$500 will be achieved very soon, and if you don't invest now then you will regret in future, as price will keep on moving up now and it will not fall at a moment.

LOL it doesn't make sense what you say.  There is never a guarantee. Sure you can feel the moment is good, and think the price must go up but we are dealing with an unpredictable asset. This kind advice should be avoided. Al though i do feel the sentiment right now is quite good.

We all know that there is no  guarantee so what shall we do?  Should we stop investing? should we stop earning? Even if God comes down to earth he cannot predict what will be the price at the time of halving.

No one is sure about the price increase. In my opinion its better to have hope and buy and earn as much possible. Even if we doesn't get a profit, bitcoin won't lead us towards loss as it happens in share market.

it depends. if you keep holding your coins eventhough the price has dropped significantly, then you don't lose anything. but if you sell, then yes, you'll end up making a loss. stocks are exactly the same in that aspect.
1185  Economy / Economics / Re: Is gold better than Bitcoin? on: May 15, 2016, 12:27:55 PM
The best thing going for bitcoin at the moment is just the halving.

Not exponential growth, not mass adoption, not some new killer application just a reduction in supply which is a big shame.


yep, right now it's the block halving that people eat and dream about here in this forum. as always it's the greed that takes over. people only care about the block halving price increase and that's it. there is nothing else to talk about for them.
1186  Economy / Speculation / Re: BITCOIN going up or down on: May 15, 2016, 12:22:58 PM
Bitcoin is in the increase, but from the recent decrease bitcoin price is stabilizing within $450-$460. I believe the price would go high and reach $500 before the halving.

The lowest what bitcoin can go is 350 dollars in my opinion so i think bitcoin prices will go up in the long run so i dont think you will make a loss if you want to have an investment in long term. Bitcoin is going up so I think it will just be a nice thing to see going to 1000 dollars or even more . I don't really see bitcoin going down this year. Smiley


We are hoping for the higher price this year only because of halving, and it would be really disappointing to see if price falls down, that will surely panic majority of users.

people will only get disappointed when their predictions are way too high as the majority of the dreamers here do.
1187  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin in 2020 on: May 15, 2016, 12:10:20 PM
It would be nice if Bitcoin can reach a high value in that year because now there are a lot of people that is still waiting for a price increase so that would be nice for them.
And of course you are not for sure that it can happen but you should take the risk that you are going to hold it.
I am pretty sure 2020 bitcoin prices are already above $ 1000, although it is still vague, but if this continues bitcoin rise it could happen, but right now we can only wait
But with my analysis I can predict, the recent raise of bitcoins prices will continue (even with some ups downs as usual) bitcoin prices would definitely reach more than $10k price levels for sure by the year of 2020.

wow! you're really pushing things to their limits, aren't you? how on earth do you think the price will get to $10,000 by 2020? 2020 is around 4 years away... which means the price must increase with $2000 this year, $2000 in 2017, $2000 in 2018, $2000 in 2019, and $2000 in 2020. keep dreaming!
1188  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is bitcoin better or paypal? on: May 15, 2016, 11:48:32 AM
For investment bitcoin is a very good opition, but if you want safe transactions PayPal is a good choice cause u can cancel the payment when you got scammed. Just split your money and be happy.

i agree paypal is more safe but it's only for Customer/buyer not for seller, also paypal can limit your transaction and paypal can freeze. so for me bitcoin is more safe no people can freeze your money friend


i don't get how paypal transactions can even be safer than bitcoin transactions in any ways at all.

the charge back feature alone makes paypal unsafe.

it's always group against group. the group of buyers of course like the feature of charging back for whatever reasons. as long as the group of buyers is larger than the group of sellers (which is exactly the case), then it's the majority that gets all the priority and most of the benefits in features. that's how it goes with paypal.
1189  Economy / Speculation / Re: My BTC Prediction for 2016.. on: May 15, 2016, 11:40:52 AM
The bitcoin price could reach $1000 by the end of the year. But it also depends on the 2MB block size increase.

even with the block halving and the block size increase the price will not go to $1000 this year. it's basically pointless to dream about $1000 while we haven't even seen $500 and $600 yet. and after that there still is $700 - $800 - $900...


My prediction is more optimistic  and i believe you like it , you are right bitcoin will gone to 700$ - $800 - $900, but the highest price of bitcoins will be 1000$. than bitcoin's price will stop and after halving bitcoin price will going down.  

well, there is a huge difference between realistic optimism and not realistic optimism. of course i hope the price to reach $1000 this year, but as i said in my previous post, it won't happen, and definitely not before the block halving. it's better to set yourself some lower targets are you will only get disappointed once you see you are far off with your predictions.
1190  Economy / Speculation / Re: Can bitcoin rise up to 800$ this year ? on: May 15, 2016, 11:23:59 AM
I am pretty sure. bitcoin have great power. bitcoin will reach 800USD this year. and bitcoin will be one of the great powers in the media remittances in the world.

If we see price above $600 at the time of halving then I think $800 can be achieved by the end of the year, but nothing can be predicted about the price of bitcoin.

the $800 price level is out of reach this year. at every round price level such as $500/$600/$700 there will be a massive amount of resistance. even staying above the $500 price level will be a more than difficult target for this year. there is not much beside the block halving and maybe even the block size increase to give the price a push forward. both happenings are simply not enough to make the price come close to $800 in 2016.
1191  Economy / Speculation / Re: 450$ Breakout on: May 15, 2016, 11:17:44 AM
A month later, the $450 break out which the OP talked about hasn't materialized.
I am not disappointed though.
Slow and steady is the way to go.

i actually prefer the price to stay relatively stable as it is right now. peaks and pumps are cool for traders looking to make profits, but calmth in the market will make less experienced people more comfortable using and buying bitcoin. i also hope the price will increase slowly.
1192  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin going Up to 500? on: May 14, 2016, 09:30:03 PM
Yes, soon or later the bitcoin will go to the 500 dollar or more, this month could be the month we are all waited on because it can rise to this number.
If everything will go well there is a chance to hit it.

Exactly, majority of us are hoping to see this price by the end of this month, but nothing is guaranteed, we also need to wait longer to see this price.

The $500 price of bitcoin might be delayed to June or July. There is no good news to drive the price higher.

there is nothing that will get delayed. if you realistically look at the current market and the demand levels, then there is no reason for the price to touch $500 this month or next month. if it happens it will happen just before the block halving, and that's somewhere in juli.
1193  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin reached 450$ today. share your views guys on: May 14, 2016, 09:25:04 PM
Its been a long back thread, but it has got a coincidence with the today's price. The price just touched and trying to get stabilized within $450.

Support is already near the 255  region so i t makes more sense to test the levels; 470, 485 and 500 then to stabilize around 450.
I am very optimistic about the price now.

Yeah now its time for some good news, and the price has started to move up now so we can see much better price as we get closer to halving.

Is there any good news to drive up the price? I thought it is just the slow rise caused by general adoption.

You must be noob around here, there's no such thing as "general adoption", only idiots and fools looking make a quick buck off Bitcoin halving in July. I hope you ain't one of those fools, because you won't see 800 this year, may be 600 if you are lucky. The most realistic scenario is Bitcoin rising to 500 due to halving.

it's not very often that i agree with you, but in this case i do. there are way too many noobs believing the price to reach insanely high price levels just because of the block halving. the hype is complete now... reaching $500 or prices slightly above the $500 level is the most we can expect. after that there is no more halving hype talk. after the halving the price will either settle above $500 or it will come down to todays levels again.
1194  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: May 14, 2016, 08:04:45 PM
Its not worth saving your money in bank,better invest on property will double your money in a few years or invest in gold both is secured and safe,investing online there many scams out there dont wastes your money

Investings a better choice if theres no risk,although that could mean the returns would be small. saving is not worth imo because inflation rate is always higher than the banks interest rate.
I think all of them area risky if you are talking about investment only banks can give safetiest investment but they are giving low amount interest..
Yeah your right savings is not worth but if you have a good job its worth to save your money at the banks.. than just holding your money and there's a possibility that your money will be gone or spend to any stuffs..

The problem with banks and a savings accounts is that the interest is really low, in some countries it's even negative since savings are taxed. To make up for it you need to make profit by investing... else your assets will decrease.

Interests paid by banks are very low, and in future it would be worthless as you also need to keep inflation rate in mind, so saving will not help in long run, better to invest.

current interest rates are already worthless. some banks have even said that they are even considering to charge negative interest rates the coming years on savings accounts. bitcoin is the perfect solution. that's why i prefer to keep holding the majority of my coins for many many years. it's better to prepare yourself now for the future instead of waiting for what's coming.
1195  Economy / Economics / Re: The Halving - Good or Bad for Bitcoin? on: May 14, 2016, 07:57:44 PM
no one knows about what will happen when the halving starts.if someone does then he/she will be a millionare after that halving,

I think halving would be good for the short period, as it is expected that price will climb up, as investors who have invested at lower price would surely get benefited out of it

Most of the people agree that the halving price is already in the current price. Which makes perfect sense to me since there is no other news which made the price so high.

there are way too many dreamers here thinking the price to reach prices as $1000 and even higher. it's quite funny that these people are seriously believing their own nonsense. there will be a lot unhappy people once the block halving is done and the price didn't even top $550. Cheesy
1196  Economy / Speculation / Re: >400$=sell time on: May 14, 2016, 07:41:32 PM
It is a good price to sell for at least if you bought for around $200 then it is good if not I do not suggest that you sell at $400. So if you bought for a low amount and you can make some profit then you can sell now.
if you buy below $ 200 price it is an excellent opportunity to sell bitcoin. you really get a considerable profit. unfortunately only a few people who save bitcoin they buy when the price is $ 200

i don't hold any sub $200 coins, but i have bought several bitcoins below $250 in 2015 and i still have them in my cold wallets. i can sell them now and get a good profit from them, but i prefer to keep holding longer.
1197  Economy / Speculation / Re: Recent Price Bump on: May 14, 2016, 07:34:52 PM
I do not think the price rise recently is the result of a pump. It has been within the rang for some time.

it's an expected price increase till now in the runup to the block halving. i only don't know how much steam there is left to push the price much higher than $500 in the coming months.
1198  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC Price going back to $250??? on: May 14, 2016, 01:20:06 PM
Well, if the price of bitcoin back at a price of $ 250, I think will be very many people who would buy it. it is most likely to occur.
If the price goes down back to 250 it will rise again back because the price is very cheap and i know more people are already know bitcoin.. and more store are accepting bitcoin as payment just like steam and garena.. they are now accepting bitcoin as payment so its impossible that the price of bitcoin will reach the lowest price of bitcoins..

stores accepting bitcoin doesn't mean the price will go up to very high price levels. stores that do accept bitcoin as form of payment have some sort of a middle man as bitpay handling their transactions. bitpay converts the bitcoin payments into fiat and send the money to the merchants. that's how it goes.
1199  Economy / Speculation / Re: 1 BTC = 1000$ in 2016 on: May 13, 2016, 02:26:28 PM
There's a chance that bitcoin will touch 1000$ for a moment in 2016. In the halving, the price should be atleast 750-900$. Of course at that time, there might be a spike that will touch 1000$ or more..

not even for a moment. if we see the price break through the $600 price level, then we can consider it to be a more than great achievement. there is really no point in thinking about $1000 prices. it's simply not realistic to happen this year.

Solid holders won't even bother selling any of their BTCs once we reach 600$. They would still wait for a larger price. Everyone's waiting for the 800-900$ price range. Although it's quite unrealistic to touch 1000$ because most people will panic sell all their BTC once we reach 800$.

there are barely solid holders here anymore. those who are indeed don't bother selling at these prices. most of the noobs will sell at these prices as they get excited very easily. once the price reaches $700 or $800 i will secure some profits.
1200  Economy / Speculation / Re: 1 BTC = 1000$ in 2016 on: May 13, 2016, 02:17:15 PM
There's a chance that bitcoin will touch 1000$ for a moment in 2016. In the halving, the price should be atleast 750-900$. Of course at that time, there might be a spike that will touch 1000$ or more..

not even for a moment. if we see the price break through the $600 price level, then we can consider it to be a more than great achievement. there is really no point in thinking about $1000 prices. it's simply not realistic to happen this year.
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