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2041  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: A Declaration of the Independence of Cyberspace - We all should read it on: January 07, 2023, 06:52:20 PM
And I would suggest, you could spread your message but when people are against it, do not go on attack, be calm because you were the one that started the discussion and you will of course face with some people who disagree, if you do not want to get disagreed on, then do not open these topics, since you won't get %100 acceptance, its obvious.

Have I attacked someone or do you have the feeling that I attacked someone...? Did I state somewhere that I do not want to be disagreed with...? Did I state any rule in OP saying something like "only those open for 100% acceptance are eligible to post"...? I sincerely don't know why you wrote these lines. I don't think I ever stopped someone from disagreeing with me (I mean in my entire life, not just inside this topic).

I understand that OP wants to spread "government is bad, lets get rid of government!" type of thing and spreading a political ideology is not that bad, many people do it

Most of all, I wanted to share an important historic text, which is same reason for which I wrote the topic about The Crypto Anarchist Manifesto or the one about The call for Julian Assange || The WikiLeaks Manifesto. I may be wrong, but I think that bitmover had same reason when he published The Cypherpunk Manifesto. These texts are part of our history. And, since they are also oriented to technology, software, development and all these combined with a libertarian spirit, they also should be known by bitcoiners. Good or bad, no matter how each of us sees them, they still remain part of history and they are educative.



Try to picture the whole world without any governing authority.  Cheesy

I do try to picture it. And it's not that scary Smiley
2042  Local / Bine ai venit! / Re: Salut on: January 07, 2023, 06:37:50 PM
Spun cu convingere treaba asta.  Vorbeau despre implementarea Know Your Customer. [...]

Mai sunt câteva care încă au rămas din urmă cu câţiva ani de zile. [...]

Deci se pare că nu îmi joacă mintea (mă bucur!).  Nu ştiu în ce stadiu a ajuns KYC pe atomicDEX sau poate că a fost în totalitate renunţat la idee până la urmă.  Cum spui şi tu.  Nu găsesc nimic în afară de cele trei legături de mai sus.

Da, din ce vad, sunt aproape convins ca au renuntat la idee... Eu am instalat aplicatia de Android si chiar am citit cuvant cu cuvant atat EULA, cat si sectiunea de Termeni si Conditii, si nu scrie nimic legat de KYC. Materialul respectiv apare si la ei pe site, aici. Am consultat, de asemenea, si sectiunea Privacy de pe site - din nou, nicio referinta.

In sfarsit, am studiat si descrierea aplicatiei din magazinul Google:



Deci, daca chiar asa este (si, foarte probabli ca asa este), si au abolit tentativa de KYC, jos palaria! Mai rar vezi asa ceva Smiley Cred ca o sa ma mai joc o vreme cu aplicatia de pe telefon, mai ales ca, din ce observ, nu mai este in stadiu Beta.
2043  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: List of useful Bitcoin block explorers on: January 07, 2023, 06:15:10 PM
Done, all changes are finished.  Smiley

Glad I could help Smiley

I'l try to add it right away next time for consistency purposesSmiley

Yes, cinsistency is very important for me, as you already observed Smiley

And maybe it's easier for you to implement in into your own topic if I'll comment on all changes here.  Smiley

Thank you. Yes, it'll be more easier for me to notice the changes, if you write them down. For example, the comment removed for SoChain (the one saying it's not functional) was marked by you with a merit for my post Smiley But when I received the merit I just looked quickly at who gave it to me and for what post and I probably just told myself a "thank you 1miau", without realizing that it also implied that you deleted that comment. So yes, if it's not too much effort, let's do like this, with changes written down Smiley



Done, I've removed the entry

I also removed it from the translated topic. Quick question: shouldn't this deleted website be moved at "Removed Blockexplorers" section? (I just realized now that there should be also a space added between Block and explorers -- I hope this helps as well) I know it was initially listed under the section "Different other sites / .onion links" therefore I am not sure if you also want to keep these ones at the section for removed websites. So far you only deleted sites from the main part of OP and all these appear at the "Removed" section so I am not sure about how you want to treat the deleted links which were posted as "different other sites". Should these be kept there as well, or have them permanently removed?
2044  Local / Română (Romanian) / Re: Cele mai bune site-uri de explorare a blocurilor Bitcoin on: January 07, 2023, 06:06:33 PM
Revin cu inca o actualizare a topicului. Clona de mempool.space functionala in reteaua Tor, recomandata anterior de LV, a fost sters din OP, la solicitarea lui LV. Din motive nestiute, site-ul a disparut.


Nu stiu daca site-ul ar fi trebui adaugat la rubrica de Exploratoare Eliminate, dat fiind ca fusese mentionat la Alte site-uri. Cert este ca 1miau nu l-a pus la Exploratoare Eliminate, ci l-a sters definitiv. Schimbarea este reflectata acum si in topicul tradus.
2045  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: A Declaration of the Independence of Cyberspace - We all should read it on: January 07, 2023, 05:43:14 PM
Also keep in mind that even though many disagree with this definition, Anarchy is always associated with chaos and lack of order which are not true about Bitcoin.

Sadly, many disagree with that definition because they do not correctly understand what anarchism stands / aims for. I will not reiterate the earlier discussion about chaos and order. However, anarchism vouches for a stateless society, without violence. It does not vouch for criminality, not for violence.

Barlow's group EFF can talk about privacy acts all they want and fly their protest blimp over NSA's data center but it won't change a thing since they are not attempting to change the system Wink

Actually, they did change some things. If not Barlow itself, then we can talk about John Gilmore, a co-founder of EFF and also a co-founder of Cypherpunks group. I will not enter into details here about what Cypherpunks for this world, as this is a part of another subject. To say the leasr, they dedicated their life for writing software for offering people privacy and anonimity. And they did it for free.

But we can debate about John Gilmore, as he was a colleague of Barlow -- just to let you know that he (Gilmore) and through him EFF as well actually changed something.

Getting back to modern era, but still old times. The times of cypherpunks. John Gilmore, one of them, had a personal vendetta against NSA. Or maybe I should have written that NSA had a personal vendetta with him. One of the most remarkable victory of the information against oppression was led in 1989 by Gilmore who made public a secret document. The author of the document was working for Xerox and NSA specifically requested Xerox to destroy the document. John Gilmore disagreed with this censorship and posted the document on the internet. Of course it was quickly downloaded thousands of times, and the war between Gilmore and NSA was started.

In 1992 took place another great battle between John Gilmore and NSA. For obvious reasons (related to censorship of free information), the manuscripts of William Friedman - considered to be the grandfather of cryptography in USA - were classified, although they were written in the times of WWII. Gilmore disagreed again, considering that Friedman's work should be available no anyone interested. So he called NSA in a Court of Law and he based his requests of declassifying the books on a Freedom of Information Act. Of course, NSA avoided to respond to his request, thus everything had to be settled during a trial. Afterwards, he managed to find Friedman's books in a public library. During the trial he was informed that unless he will give the books to the govern, he will be accused of espionage which could lead to 10 years in jail, as he was in the possession of classified materials. NSA didn't stop here. The agency tried to find any other "sensible" materials in various public spaces. Gilmore informed the judge that what he found was already public, since the books were in a public library and at the same time he decided to speak to the press about the entire case. Soon after, the books were printed by Aegean Park Press.

Gilmore's case became public and from that moment the govern backed-off. The charges were dropped and the manuscripts were declassified. John Gilmore won. People won as well, as the public information remained in public's hands, as it should have always been.

So excepting the fact that he ridiculed the entire NSA, he also made them step back and, most important, he managed to offer to people the precious manuscripts of William Friedman.

Should I also mention that soon after launch Steve Wozniak became also a part of EFF?

And, among other remarkable achievements, EFF also changed history after the process of Bernstein v. United States. Bernstein, a young coder back then, was not allowed to publish his code of an ecryption system as cryptography, back then, was forbidden by the law for weapons and munitions. If people would tattoo such code on their skin or if they would wear t-shirts with such code lines printed on their shirts, the shirts (respectively, their bodies) were considered munitions and they were not allowed to fly over US borders. Bernstein sued the State and, being represented by EFF, managed to win the trial.

Of course, there are many other victories achieved by EFF during time, especially when we talk about the collaboration with Cypherpunks, but I think that even only those two examples suffice for proving that they actually did something! And, in part, they did change the system! To say the least, without this trial, maybe even nowadays the export of cryptographic materials would be banned in US.



It's quite common that his far earlier coin DigiCash, failed. Quite a few electronic cash systems were launched back then and all of them failed, until Satoshi launched Bitcoin.  Wink

Actually (at least, as far as I know), only two electronic private coins were launched before Bitcoin. One was Chaum's Cyberbuck (attention: his company was DigiCash, while the coin was named Cyberbuck) and the other one was e-Gold. All the other proposal which circulated back then (Bit Gold, b-money) were never implemented. They remained just at the stage of proposals...



It's like try and error. He made valuable contributions despite failing.  Smiley

This is so true! No matter that his coins did not succeed, his visions, his code, his remarkable writings helped so many coders. This is why he was also named as the father of Cypherpunks.

I have thought a lot about it why Chaum's coin failed and a few explanations I got are:

- He didn't made the decision. Maybe he hired some stupid marketing guys and they don't have any clue about a good crypto currecy. And his marketing guys advised Chaum very badly (probably).
- It's a trap! Maybe he's just testing waters to see how to make a perfect launch (unlikely because he collected VC funds).
- He's just clueless himself how to compete against several 10k shitcoins and after Bitcoin was launched over 15 years ago, crypto industry has changed a lot. And he messed it up... [...]

I think what best describes these situations and also Chaum's fate is life's irony.
Most likely it is, dear GazetaBitcoin.  Smiley

It is what it is, I guess... He could have been surrounded by incompetents too, which blurred his vision... who knows... It could have been also a complex of all the reasons you stated... However, it's important that he did not give up. He is still active, even at his age and we can only wait to see what magic he will reveal in the future Smiley



If there hasn't been a free and democratic vote (like North Korea)

I remember how "democratic voting" took course also in Ceausescu era... it was so similar...

For example in North Korea, there are no checks and balances at all. It's a failed Communist state led by Kim Jong Un. Kim Jong Un can't be voted out, he's a maniac. People are piss poor. I would not want to live there. Checks and balances are very important and Bitcoin can be part of this and should be part of this in my opinion.

I lived, in part, what you wrote above. Although I was very young when Ceausescu was taken down I still remember many things which occurred during his regime. It is difficult to explain in words. Just a small example, all food was rationalized. And, depending of the number of the family members, you were allowed to buy only a (small) quantity of milk, flour, corn flour, oil, sugar or meat each month. Now excepting the fact that what you were allowed to was a very small amount, you also had to do extreme efforts for obtaining the aliments. For example, if a grocery store was opening at 7am, you had to go there since 1-2am to make sure you get a good spot in the queue, thus at 7am when the store would open you would have the chance to obtain your milk or oil or what you needed. If you joined the queue at 6am you had no chance to buy anything as until your place would come to enter the store everything was finished already. During the nights people used to make huge queues at each such store, sometimes even more than 100 people forming a queue...

Meat was even scarcer than anything. And I am not talking about fish, beef or some delicacy. People mostly had the right to buy chicken and pork meat and the chickens from the stores were always so small that they looked like they starved a month before being brought to the stores.

Annually, each citizen was entitled to 60-70 kg of meat and meat derivatives, 8-10 kg of fish and fish derivatives, 210-230 liters of milk or milk derivatives, 260-280 eggs, 16 kg of fats (oil, butter etc.), 170-180 kg of vegetables, 70-90 kg of potatoes, 65-95 kg of fruits, 22-26 kg of sugar. All products were stamped on a paper card or on a sort of register book, for making sure the citizen would not buy more than he was entitled to. The shopping could be made only once per month and only at the grocery shop from the neighborhood. In 1984 the portions were reduced even more: 39 kg of meat, 78 liters of milk, 166 kg of vegetables. The oil and the sugar could be bought also just once per month and only 1 kg of each of them.

Those caught with shenanigans regarding food (buying more, buying from illegal sources etc.) could face 6 months - 5 years of jail.


Register for buying bread in Ceausescu era


Register for buying sugar in Ceausescu era


Register for buying cloths (yes, even cloths were rationalized) in Ceausescu era


The huge monthly queues at grocery shop in Ceausescu era (PIINE means BREAD and ALIMENTARA means GROCERY SHOP)
2046  Other / Beginners & Help / MOVED: A Declaration of the Independence of Cyberspace - We all should read it on: January 06, 2023, 08:44:00 PM
This topic has been moved to [Bitcoin Discussion].

[https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5432752.0]
2047  Local / Bine ai venit! / Re: Salut on: January 06, 2023, 08:42:02 PM
Ştiu.  Şi eu tot despre atomicDEX vorbesc. I-am urmărit într-o vreme şi chiar mă interesa produsul lor.  Până când au anunţat că datorită reglementărilor, pentru Statele Unite vor fi nevoiţi să implementeze proceduri Know Your Customer.  Dacă nu îmi joacă mintea, cred că pe Reddit au anunţat asta.  E ultima chestie pe care o mai ţin minte, după care le-am ignorat existenţa.

Uhm... nu stiam despre detaliul acesta... Eu am intrat pe site, mai devreme, si nu am vazut absolut nimic legat de KYC. Mai mult, am cautat inclusiv pe Google "atomicDEX KYC" si nu am gasit nimic. Si, atunci cand m-am jucat un pic cu portofelul, nici in cadrul aplicatiei nu scria nimic. Poate au renuntat la idee intre timp...? Banuesc ca, daca ar fi folosit KYC, ar fi trebuit sa anunte undeva, in mod oficial. Am sa mai instalez si eu aplicatia pe telefon, sa vad la ce stadiu de dezvoltare a ajuns, si voi cauta si referinte despre KYC -- daca exista.

Acum, ce sa zic? Daca au implementat in functie de geolocatie, iar utilizatorii americani sunt fortati sa treaca prin KYC, paguba lor, pana la urma... Important este ca toti ceilalti nu sunt fortati. Totusi, nu stiu de ce legea din S.U.A. ar fi mai importanta decat legile altor tari. In fond, si alte tari constrang firmele sa apeleze la KYC si, daca pentru alte tari au lansat aplicatia fara KYC, la fel ar fi putut sa o faca si in S.U.A., nu?
2048  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: A Declaration of the Independence of Cyberspace - We all should read it on: January 06, 2023, 08:35:55 PM
Maybe you can provide more insights here or at least what's your impression because in my opinion, David Chaum is a very interesting person.
How can someone get his own coin so wrong while being around in crypto for DECADES?  Cry

What happened to Chaum is very difficult for me to understand. He was called "Houdini of crypto". He invented blind signatures. He invented the first digital coin, named Cyberbuck, which was based on blind signatures. His company, DigiCash, launched in 1989, managed to convince giants like Mark Twain Bank from St. Louis, Deutsche Bank, Credit Suisse, Norske Bank and Bank Austria to use Cyberbucks. Other big players became interested in Chaum's creation: Visa, Netscape, ABN Amro Bank, CitiBank and ING Bank. Even Bill Gates tried to embed DigiCash in Windows '95. Sadly, these last deals were not signed and his company went bankrupt. Why did he fail back then? Was he way ahead of his time? Or was it because his coin was centralized...?

Furthermore, he wrote very important books for cryptography, such as Untraceable Electronic Mail, Return Addresses, and Digital Pseudonyms", "Blind Signatures for Untraceable Payments" or "Security without Identification Card Computers to make Big Brother Obsolete.

Then he returned with a new coin which, again, failed...

I sincerely don't know how to explain all these. It feels like Cristofor Columb, which touched so many times the shores of America without realizing it. This is why America was named after Amerigo Vespucci, which realized that it is a new continent, and not after Columb. It also reminds me of Moses, which led his people for 40 years in the desert and died just before reaching The Promised Land.

I think what best describes these situations and also Chaum's fate is life's irony.



There is nothing anarchist about Bitcoin. In fact Bitcoin is the most governed system in the world. There are tens of thousands of law enforcement with zero corruption or possibility of corruption called full nodes that are watching this system 24/7 to keep it healthy and clean of any corruption.

Actually, I have to disagree here. According to Wikipedia, "Anarchy is a society without a government. It may also refer to a society or group of people that entirely rejects a set hierarchy". This is exactly what happens inside Bitcoin network -- the nodes do not have any central authority to govern them. Each chooses to be online or offline. Nobody can coerce the nodes to run or not.

The whole text you shared is just pretty words but empty and meaningless underneath. Complaining about US regime's corruption while you vote for them and pay their salary makes no sense! Specially when it comes from someone who is (or was) part of that corrupt system.

What makes you so sure that John Perry Barlow voted? About paying the salaries, unfortunately, there is nothing that can be done, unless going to jail for not paying taxes. What would you expect? For all people which blame regimes and their corruption to accept to go to prison for not paying taxes, in order for you to not be able to say that they should not complain since they are paying their salaries?



I am moving this topic to Bitcoin discussion for better visibility. I may move it back to Beginners & Help at some point.
2049  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Libertarians -- where are they now? on: January 06, 2023, 07:36:57 PM
Therefore, I ask: Libertarians -- where are they now? Crypto-anarchists -- where are they now? Where are you now?
Well, I'm still here (but not as active as I used to be), though I seem to have drifted more towards geolibertarianism/anarcho-mutualism

I feel proud to share same visions with such a respectful iconic figure as Foxpup!

Nobody even mentioned gender issues in this thread, but of course no conservative can resist making an issue out of it where none exists.

Of course =)))



When Bitcoin's main use case is getting rich quick, and financial freedom is secondary at best, there's nothing surprising that ideology is very low in the list of priorities of Bitcoin community. And in this context it's somewhat ironic, because libertarianism is a pure form of capitalism, and this is what capitalism looks like on practice - people care about money first. People don't mind sacrificing privacy and control over their funds when they use centralized exchanges, because it allows them to make money more conveniently and cheaper. It seems like libertarianism is at odds with itself.

Yes, but the highlighted part is also what will doom most of those acting like this. Prometheus gave fire to people, to warm their houses and prepare food; people used it to fire up places and each other's homes. Satoshi gave Bitcoin to people for offering them a chance to eliminate governs, banks and middle men; people invented centralized exchanges and, furthermore, also associated their bank accounts with the exchanges, to make sure (sarcastically speaking) that the long arms of the State will 100% catch them... For this reason I wrote, a while ago, 12 years later and people still don't know to use Bitcoin nor what it's good for.



I still think that those same libertarians who made up a large part of the bitcoin "crowd" are still around, they just perhaps don't have the same loud voice they had before being that there's so many more people involved now.

I also feel like all libertarians were overcrowded, in time, by people like this:



And it's very sad...



Interesting article

Thank you!

I've reached my 50-Merit limit for your posts unfortunately, so don't worry, I'll come back here later.  Smiley

Same here Smiley No worry.

Bitcoin has so many aspects and yes, we could "label" some of these aspects but we won’t get a clear picture what Bitcoin, as a whole, really is:

-   Libertarian = it’s your own money, you only need to remember 12 words
-   Progressive = a completely new technology
-   Conservative = Bitcoin will help to conserve your monetary value (hard money, capped at 21M coins)
-   Anarchist = Bitcoin is anti-dictatorship money
-   Constitutionalist = Code is law!
-   Transparent = everyone can verify if a transaction happened, coins were moved etc.
-   Private = people can take some steps to protect privacy
-   Democratic = run your own node and participate in the Bitcoin network

Big thumb up for this elaborated description.

And that’s where I’ve questioned how to turn Libertarian theories into reality because always someone like Bezos, Thiel or Musk will come and abuse a vacuum of power. [...]

Some Libertarian theories explicitly try to remove any rules but when there are no rules (vacuum), this vacuum will be filled by those who have or will quickly accumulate power (money). [...]

It’s not a secret that when there are no rules, chaos will arise. Just imagine the forum where no DT would be active, no rules would be in place and spam piling up because it’s not getting deleted.
Some players filling this vaccum might be nice, get powerful but don’t do many harmful things. Some other players filling the vaccum might be the opposite and they will abuse any vaccum for their profit. And these evil players will crush everyone, nobody could stop them at one point.

I can’t see in regard of Libertarian visions any concept of how the end game could suceed.

Now all you said above, is a great debate! I will try to explain also my point of view here.

Let's start with the chaos part. You say that "when there are no rules, chaos will arise". However, my dear 1miau, let's first remember what chaos is. And the simplest definition of chaos is that it represents "the perfect disorder". It's a disorder so well organized that you can see an order inside it. Does that make any sense? So, if chaos is a perfectly ordered disorder, what is the order? It is the cause of disorder. For example, we can say that the Universe, in its continuous expansion, it's just a combination of progressive disorder. But this disorder, as it expands itself, creates new orders and each of these orders can be identified with the initial order. So even inside chaos, which is disorder in its pure form, order is created. Therefore why would it be so bad for chaos to arise? All disorders will lead to new orders, in the future...

Let's imagine an overcrowded shop before Christmas, where no employees are available to lead customers to the section they seek for buying whatever gifts they want to buy. Now let's imagine all those people storming the shop, like ants. What will happen? Eventually, all of them will find the needed section and the wanted gift and they will go then to the cashier, pay for it and go home. The shop, in this example, represents your chaos and, respectively, my idea Cypherpunks' and Austrian school economists' idea of a society without a state / anarchism / libertarianism. So what happens in the end, to those people which are not led by any employee (obviously, they represent the society without a govern)? Do they cease to exist? Do they not find the wanted gifts...? No, quite the opposite... They all manage to do what they want, by organizing themselves...

And, regarding the people which may abuse the vacuum of power... These things happen now, indeed. Your examples can not be denied. However, Tim May envisioned a long time ago (in 1988!) a solution for such abuses. He mainly referred to govern's abuses, but his proposal may be applied in this situation too. And his solution was a crypto-anarchy based on a web of trust and reputation. The idea was shared by other Cypherpunks as well. And it implies a trust network (web of trust) based on feedbacks (similar to our forum) and this trust would improve (or decrease) your reputation. What do you think would happen to Elon Musk if such a society would actually exist? Wouldn't it be full of negative feedbacks and excluded by most people from their web of trust? Do you think he would still have same success as he has today? Indeed, Tim May's idea, as many other great ideas from the past, is utopian. But so was Bitcoin too, before it was invented. There is nothing granting that such a society won't be possible in the future...

Most likely "Libertariansm" is an utopia itself and Bitcoin is what we need to understand, how to fix some flawed libertarian thoughts. Bitcoin is so powerful on so many layers and it will probably teach us to understand some flaws of Libertarianism and other aspects because Bitcoin is addressing the vaccum of power issue.

Yes, libertarianism, in its most pure form, it's an uptopia. It's a sort, if you want, of Shangri-La. Yet, for multiple decades, Bitcoin was also a dream of Cypherpunks, libertarians and crypto-anarchists. But it ultimately came through. It prevailed! But why were all those people behind him (and Satoshi's ancestors) so driven to create it? Sahotshi, Wei Dai, Nick Szabo, Adam Back, David Chaum... And the list can also go back even more, to Austrian school economists, such Murray Rothbard or Hayek or Mises... although they could not even think to something like Bitcoin, the ideas expressed in books like:

Conceived in liberty,
For a New Liberty: The Libertarian Manifesto,
Denationalization of Money,
A History of Money and Banking in the United States: The Colonial Era to World War II,
Theory of Money and Credit,
What Has Government Done to Our Money?,
The Case Against the Fed,
Society Without a State

have many things in common. They all advocated for private money; for anarchism; for liberty; for opening people's eyes that the old paradigm they've been fed for centuries -- that governs are necessary and without them we could not live anymore our daily lives -- is wrong!

Do you see the common points between those remarkable figures of history and Cypherpunks? Do you think this is only a coincidence...?

There’s a big difference between what Libertarian theories say and what Bitcoin says.

True. Yet their paths cross so much. They have many things in common.
2050  Local / Bine ai venit! / Re: Salut on: January 06, 2023, 06:02:01 PM
Atomic spunea acum câţiva ani de zile că va implementa în viitor Know Your Customer sau Anti Money Laundering.  Încă funcţionează oare fără absurdităţi sau s-au dus şi ei pe apa sâmbetei?

Atentie, nu confunda Atomic Wallet cu atomicDEX. Sunt produse diferite. In timp ce primul are implementate proceduri KYC si AML, al doilea nu. Mai jos poti vedea diferentele intre produse.



Eu de atomicDEX vorbeam. Pe acesta mi l-a recomandat, acum cateva luni, un membru de vaza al forumului:

If you need some multi-currency supported alternative mobile wallet that is open source, consider trying Atomicdex or Unstoppable wallet:
https://atomicdex.io/
https://unstoppable.money/

AtomixDex alternative I send you is also exchange but decentralized and they are using Atomic swaps, so you can swap Bitcoin with other coins and vice versa with minimal fees.

Mentionez ca, atunci cand m-am jucat cu acest portofel, era inca in faza de testare Beta. Nu stiu ce s-a mai intamplat intre timp. Celalalt insa Unstoppable Money) functiona bine, avea si support pentru Tor, ce sa mai... arata chiar bine-bine. De asemenea, atarna greu (cel putin pentru mine) si cine este cel care iti recomanda un soft. Una e cand iti spune cineva care este o persoana marcanta a forumului si alta e daca sugestia e facuta de alde bekli23 (care scoate (offline!!!) BTC-ul din blocul geneza (ala blocat prin cod din a fi transferat) sau care afla cheile private ale tuturor adreselor BTC) sau de vreun altul de teapa lui, gen biguy
2051  Local / Română (Romanian) / Re: Vinde Bitcoin fara KYC: ATM-urile Bitcoin Romania care respecta anonimitatea on: January 06, 2023, 05:39:56 PM
Scuze, imi scapase dilema voastra legata de acest subiect...



Nu e bai, doar ca nu intelegeam ce s-a intamplat cu topicul, de nu-l mai gaseam. Stiam ca e scris de tine si, mai intai, am cautat in partea principala a sectiunii romanesti, in primele 3 pagini. Ioc. Pe urma am cautat la Presa -- acelasi rezultat. Nu mi-a trecut prin minte sa caut si la Monede Alternative. Si pe urma mi-a dat prin minte sa caut in postarile lui kevin ca, daca as fi cautat prin ale noastre, as fi cautat eu mult si bine, la cate postari am facut de la scrierea respectivului topic. In fine, l-am gasit pana la urma Smiley



Mi-e frică.  Sincer.  Pentru că vedem foarte bine că UE detestă Bitcoin, deci o legislaţie în favoarea noastră nu văd să primim.  Aştept să fim trataţi ca nişte terorişti indiferent ce vrem să facem.  Că am cumpăra, că vindem sau că vrem să deschidem o afacere în domeniu.

Sa stii ca, uneori, tot raul e spre bine. Ai scris mai sus o parte din ideea de la baza unui viitor topic al meu. Ce scriu eu acum este a doua idee de baza si de aici voi si dezvolta topicul. Uneori, cand este prea haituit, vanatul se intoarce si incepe sa vaneze vanatorul. In cazul nostru (nu doar al romanilor, ci al tuturor bitcoiner-ilor), opresiunile guvernamentale au inceput devreme, inca din 2012 si, pana acum, nu au facut decat sa sporeasca. Intre timp, noi am sarit din lac in put. In loc sa ne folosim de Bitcoin pentru a elimina cat mai mult guvernele si bancile din mediul inconjurator, am ajuns sa inventam exchange-uri centralizate, unde ne predam senini datele personale, ba mai mult: asociem si un cont bancar cu exchange-ul respectiv, sa fim siguri ca ne bagam de tot in gura lupului.

Insa toate opresiunile acestea vor atinge si o limita superioara, apoi vor scadea: vanatul se va arunca asupra vanatorului. Cum? Pur si simplu, ma gandesc eu: vazand ca nu mai are incotro si statul este tot mai mult pe urmele lui, poate ca bitcoiner-ului i se va lumina mintea si va incepe sa foloseasca aceasta creatie minunata a lui Satoshi asa cum a fost ea gandita -- in anonimitate! Si va renunta, in sfarsit, la exchange-urile centralizate, va renunta la a retrage veniturile din crypto intr-un cont bancar, va face tranzactii anhonime si peer-to-peer cu apropiatii, reusind, in cele din urma, sa indeplineasca visul lui Satoshi: acela de a elimina guvernele si bancile din ecuatie. Si astfel, va deveni si stapanul finantelor sale, fara sa mai stie un tert despre ce face cu banii sai proprii. Dar mai e pana acolo. Inca nu a ajuns suficient de adanc cutitul la os. Bitcoiner-ul de rand (care viseaza sa se imbogateasca peste noapte din crypto, ca asa e la moda acum -- /s) mai are de inghitit multe din partea statului, a bancilor, a ANAF-ului, DIICOT-ului sau din cauza altor entitati, pana cand va ajunge el sa-si spuna "Gata! Nu mai pot! De azi voi folosi Bitcoin asa cum a spus Satoshi, nu cum m-am trezit eu sa-l folosesc!"...



Avem vreo actualizare pentru celelalte ATM-uri, bitMahavi şi Pro Hash?  A folosit cineva vreunul dintre ele?

Draga IntimitateG, m-oi misca eu rapid (in general vorbind), dar nu chiar ca fulgerul Smiley Ieri scrisesem asta:

Sunt curios insa sa aflu cum functioneaza cele oferite de Pro Hash, BitMahavi si AtmByte. Si, uite, luna asta o sa merg pe la toate sa aflu si am sa revin cu informatii. Sunt, dupa multi ani, in sfarsit, mai liber, asa ca o sa profit de aceasta libertate pentru a face mai multe lucruri pe care le aman de mult timp. Si acesta este unul dintre ele.

O sa ma duc eu sa le incerc, dar pe parcursul lunii, nu am avut cum de ieri pana azi. Si asa, toata saptamana asta a fost haotica pentru mine... Sa vad, poate voi reusi in acest weekend, dar nu promit.
2052  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: List of useful Bitcoin block explorers on: January 06, 2023, 12:01:55 PM
I completely agree with you [it belongs to the third list] Smiley
Done.  Smiley

Hey there! Thank you, SFR10, for this new update and for your continuous work in providing new block explorers!
As usual, I also updated the translated topic with this new website. It's curious though that it doesn't offer the possibility to search for addresses... It is what it is.



I've added an additional text pointing it out.  Smiley

I also added your updated comment in the translated topic.



Last, but not least, I also removed the comment which was saying that SoChain is not functional. I only recently observed that 1miau made that change.



Oh and one last thing: 1miau, I noticed that you wrote the comments for last two sites with words starting with lower caps letters. Perhaps, for consistency purposes, you would like to use upper case letters for "displaying" and "search"? (And, maybe, change "displaying" with "displays" and "search" with "searches"?)

I hope this helps.

2053  Local / Română (Romanian) / Re: Cele mai bune site-uri de explorare a blocurilor Bitcoin on: January 06, 2023, 11:41:27 AM
am verificat si eu acum si vad ca functioneaza din nou. Am sa scot comentariul si o sa dau de veste si in topic-ul lui 1miau, sa procedeze si el in acest sens.

Edit: i-am transmis deja; acum asteptam sa vina validarea din partea lui.

Modificarea a fost facuta tacit de 1miau Smiley Abia recent am vazut-o si am aplicat-o si eu.



Totodata avem inca o actualizare a OP, care cuprinde un nou site adaugat la rubrica Alte site-uri, precum si inca un detaliu adaugat altuia. Site-ul nou este Bitfeed si a fost recomandat de SFR10. Site-ul stie sa caute doar tranzacții si blocuri, nu si adrese. Partea interesanta consta in formatul arborescent in care ofera detalii pentru rezultatele gasite.

A doua modificare survine la Timechain Calendar, la a carui descriere am adaugat si partea aceasta, in urma modificarii realizate de 1miau: "Oferă informații metrice diverse despre Blockchain precum și informații despre blocurile viitoare".

Alte site-uri:


SiteDescriereSugerat de
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Timechain CalendarOferă informații metrice diverse despre Blockchain precum și informații despre blocurile viitoarecygan
BitfeedCaută tranzacții, blocuri, oferă rezultate detaliate în format arborescentSFR10
2054  Local / Română (Romanian) / Re: Concursuri/tombole pe bitcointalk (sau pe aprope) on: January 06, 2023, 10:49:42 AM
Nu stiu daca ai vazut, ai castigat chiar doua din premiile lui MJ, felicitari!
Eu am castigat unul, iar alti romani nu stiu, nu am vazut.

Dadada, am vazut! Am vazut de pe la 7 dimineata!  Roll Eyes Aseara vazusem ca am castigat pachetul de carti de joc si mi-am zis "mai e loc de un premiu" Smiley Am avut gura aurita, ce sa zic... Acum, privind retrospectiv premiile, sincer sa fiu, cel mai mult mi-au placut cartile de joc si lampa. Monedele ca monedele... mai am din acestea (castigate tot pe forum). Imi mai placeau si zarurile si mi le-as fi dorit si pentru ca, de cateva luni incoace, fi-miu vrea mereu sa jucam "table". La el insa tablele inseamna doar sa dai cu zaru' si sa dai dubla sau zar cat mai mare (l-am invatat deja ca la 6-6 se spune "cale ferata", la 6-5 - "Braila", la 2-1 - "Braila intoarsa", la 4-4 - "ca la teatru" etc.). Ulterior a progresat si de la doua zaruri a ajuns la vreo 6, apoi la 10 si acum are vreo 17 zaruri (inclusiv unele mari, din alea cum isi agata taximetristii de oglinda, lol). Si arunca cu toate o data, scopul fiind sa dea cat mai multe cvadruple, "chinte" (asa le zicem cvintuplelor), sextuple etc. Dubla e deja derizorie, nu-l mai impresioneaza cu nimic. Revenind, daca as fi castigat un zar din acela cred ca i-ar fi placut si lui. Dar sunt bucuros si cu premiile castigate Smiley

Totodata, te felicit si pe tine pentru premiu! Si felicitari amandurora pentru ca am fost acceptati in cadrul campaniei de recenzii!

Acum hai sa vedem cat noroc avem si la celalt concurs al lui MJ Smiley
2055  Local / Română (Romanian) / Re: Vinde Bitcoin fara KYC: ATM-urile Bitcoin Romania care respecta anonimitatea on: January 06, 2023, 10:38:59 AM
Cred că ştiu despre ce vorbeşti.  Cumva acea monedă care avea legătură cu reciclarea, care probabil nici măcar Criptomonedă nu era?

Hahahahah! Da, asa e! Dupa ce am pierdut vreo jumatate de ora (cautand intre ultimele postari ale lui kevin, care stiam cu siguranta ca a postat in acel topic), am reusit sa-l gasesc: CIUGUban: un fel de CBDC, faza pe comune. Si da, nici macar criptomoneda nu era. Despre asta vorbeam... nu s-a mai auzit nimic despre aceasta initiativa. Rea nu era; nici tocmai buna. Dar era, cel putin, interesanta...



Cu siguranata, retinerea dansei, nu se datora politicii bancii ( banca care, cel putin din experienta mea, a avut o politica de acceptare tacita, tot timpul).

Uite d-asta bancile merita reactii de genul:

Mai jos este o reactie a unui utilizator al aceleiasi banci. Reactia este amuzanta insa totodata ar trebui luata in serios:

Sursa foto: Facebook



Cum spune şi Gazeta, pentru cei mai mulţi români este încă o zonă gri pentru că niciodată nu s-a prea mediatizat legislaţia privind încasarea veniturilor din Criptomonede. [...]

Chiar şi cu reglementările de la ANAF, legea este foarte confuzantă.  Şi totuşi, toţi de aici ştim mai multe decât omul de rând despre subiect.  Îmi imaginez cât de dificil este pentru omul de rând să înţeleagă ce şi cum este de făcut dacă face un leu din Bitcoi.

Este foarte dificil, pentru oricine, sa priceapa cum aplica guvernantii legea. Tin minte ca, dupa aparitia acelei legi, ne-am zbatut creierele cateva luni cei cativa romani de aici, ca sa intelegem exact modul de functionare. Confuzia provenea din urmatorul motiv: in functie de valoarea profitului din tranzactii crypto inregistrat pe parcursul unui an trebuie platit si CAS 25% sau nu? Stiam ca impozitul de 10% trebuie achitat; stiam, de asemenea, si ca, in cazul in care profitul inregistrat cumula mai mult de 12 salarii minime pe economie trebuia platit si CASS 10%; dar nu stiam si de CAS. CAS-ul se achita in functie de natura venitului. Daca era incadrat la anumite categorii era posibil sa fie obligatorie si plata CAS-ului. Si, dupa mai multe luni de dezbateri, am gasit, intr-un final, ca veniturile din crypto sunt incadrate la categoria de alte venituri, asa ca nu trebuie platit si CAS-ul...

Oricum, sunt multe zone gri, daca nu chiar negre, si nu stiu cum se vor descurca respectivii oameni, daca vor trebui sa se confrunte cu statul. De pilda, minerii care au cumparat echipamente, au obtinut criptomonede, insa afacerea lor e pe minus, deoarece echipamentele miniere au costat mult mai mult decat ce au obtinut ei din preschimbarea criptomonedelor cu fiat. In teorie (si, probabil si in ochii statului), ei sunt pe 100% profit ca doar ei produc criptomonedele, nu? Ei bine, nu! Pentru ca si echipamentele alea cu costat o caruta de bani; energia electrica a costat alta caruta de bani, iar minerul nu a apucat sa-si acopere nici macar prima caruta pana acum. Dovedeste asta cuiva! Sau fa-l sa inteleaga.

In fine, discutia este lunga si sunt multe cazuri de acoperit... Cert este ca, asa cum stau lucrurile acum, ne aflam intr-o nebuloasa. Si, cred ca nu doar noi, ci si functionarii publici care trebuie sa se ocupe cu ce e legat de crypto...
2056  Economy / Services / Re: LoyceV's Avatar for Rent [first 🦊🦊🦊3 YEARS🦊🦊🦊 (198 weeks) rented out] on: January 05, 2023, 07:08:21 PM
Aaaand here is my bet for the raffle:

Code:
Bitcointalk Account: GazetaBitcoin
Last Block of January 2023: 774168

It seems that what Loyce saw on the difficulty estimator website has changed since then. Right now, it shows that "Next Difficulty Change: between +2.7816% and +15.3994%". I will take a wild guess for a +3% difficulty, which would mean to have a block at each 10.3 minutes (10 minutes and 20 seconds).

Right now, lattest block is 770328, so, based on my calculation, there is space for 3840 more blocks. Therefore, my prediction is 774168!



Careful, I've said sober enough, not 100% sober Wink

Lol, true!

Plus, you technically didn't make any prediction yet (i.e. you didn't post a code tag with your name in it and I doubt that posting the code tag with others' name is taken into account), hence you don't necessarily have to remove that post, nor wait Grin

=))))))) True again! Yet I said to not overcrowd with one more post the already overcrowded topic of our dear LV, therefore I deleted it Smiley



And hey, congrats on your new couch, GazetaBitcoin!

Thank you Smiley

Much nicer than my first, which was taken from the side of a road.  Not kidding.  Ugly green faux leather thing with rips in it.

Oh, gawd



I have never heard of celebrating party for a new couch but hey, I learn every day something crazy new.

Neither have I, it was 1miau's idea Smiley

Congratulations to Gazeta and to Bonbon L (couch with a name is even weirdier, lol) long life and no stains and of course to make a lot of good memories together Smiley

Hihi, thank you!

I should probably make a givaway for my new loan mower (a.k.a Frank) Wink /jk it's 3yo already...

Awww that would have been a great idea, also for me. Mine is 3.6 years old. Maybe we'll do it for the next ones (assuming there will be next ones)?  Roll Eyes Kidding. Mey Frank have a long and prosperous life!

Anyway, I know nobody is laughing at my jokes koz I'm as weird as my (old) avatar so let's get to the point.

But I do laugh =)))

P.S. Am I the only one thinking that the couch deservs to have its own account here? Go-Go Bonbon L

Now that would be something! Imagine that! I could arrange some legal papers to entitle me as the official speaker for Bonbon and then we could see it growing up from zero to Hero. It could also have a very own Bonbon's reputation thread Smiley Probably the only couch around the world which is active on Internet Smiley



I'll join your party and celebrate with you.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Congratulations @GazetaBitcoin on the new couch Bonbon L and on finishing the complete house renovation. The name goes really well with the couch. After all that work, you definitely deserve this couch. I hope you will enjoy the couch for a long time.  Smiley

Hehe, thank you and welcome to the party Smiley



Other than that, icopress entitled me to post a prediction on his name, as he does not have access to his computer before the registration period ends:

Hey, man! I won't be available until Monday at the earliest! I'd love to take part (I'd appreciate it if you'd choose in my place). I don't think 1m would mind.

Therefore, let's give our friend a hand of help:

Code:
Bitcointalk Account: icopress
Last Block of January 2023: 774500



Good luck everybody!
2057  Local / Română (Romanian) / Re: Concursuri/tombole pe bitcointalk (sau pe aprope) on: January 05, 2023, 06:53:13 PM
Cred ca ai scapat un amanunt important.
Banii pentru locurile cu plata nu au intrat in buzunarul lui MJ, nu, nici pe departe. Acei bani au ajuns ca donatii directe la diferite ONG-uri si agentii caritabile.
MJ ceruse doar dovada acelor plati.

Ahhh, da, asa este. Greseala mea. Oricum, chiar si asa, eram sigur de onestitatea lui MJ, care ar fi dus pana la urma la bun sfarsit concursul Smiley

Dar te iert, inca e inceputul anului  Grin Grin

Hihi, merci frumos!



Avem un concurs nou doua oportunitati de a castiga, prin munca cinstita, ceva cascaval!

[PAID TESTERS NEEDED] Zenland Marketplace | Up to $30 (open)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5426986.0

Se pot castiga urmatoarele: 20$ (membrii Full si Sr.), respectiv 30$ (membrii Hero si Legendary) pentru utilizarea unei piete online. Mai sunt 3 locuri pentru membri Full si Sr. si 2 locuri pentru membri Hero si Legendary.

Organizator: Zenland

Utilizatorii trebuie sa fi castigat minim 10 merite in ultimele 120 zile, sa nu aiba Trust negativ si sa scrie o recenzie constructiva a serviciului, de minim 150 cuvinte. Platile se vor face in portofele de tip Bitcoin/TRC-20 USDT/BSC-20 USDT.



🤜 Write a short crypto casino feedback [Paying $5 directly to your BTC wallet]
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5382433.0

Se pot castiga urmatoarele: 5$ pentru scrierea unei recenzii a unui cazinou.

Organizator: GamblingBro

Practic, organizatorul vrea sa isi imbunatateasca abilitatile de a da feedback. Pe site-ul sau a scris mai multe recenzii unor cazinouri (listate si in topicul de pe forum) si doreste sa primeasca recenzii de la utilizatorii forumului pentru respectivele cazinouri. Recenziile trebuie scrise sub forma de comentariu pe site-ul organizatorului, nu pe forum. Sunt eligibili doar cei care au jucat vreodata la respectivele cazinouri, care au rang minim de Member si care scriu o recenzie de minim 150 de cuvinte, corecta din punct de vedere gramatical.



Eu unul nu sunt eligibil pentru niciuna dintre aceste oportunitati: la prima nu am experienta cu Metamask, iar la a doua nu ma incadrez deoarece nu am jucat niciodata la vreun cazinou (fie el online sau fizic) si, probabil, nici nu o voi face vreodata. Dar, daca se inscrie cineva, mult succes! Criteriile nu sunt deloc dificile, pentru cei eligibili.
2058  Local / Română (Romanian) / Re: Concursuri/tombole pe bitcointalk (sau pe aprope) on: January 05, 2023, 04:42:46 PM
Mi s-a raspuns (surprinzator) in privat de catre cineva (cu care ma inteleg bine si) care are oarecum legatura cu treaba aia.

Ah, okay...

Iar tie ti-a raspuns 1miau: concursul este doar un pic de reclama si un mod de a aduce votanti la "problema" lor de design, ca, hai sa fim seriosi, nu e diferenta atat de mare intre cele 4 propuneri  Wink

Ma crezi ca nu-i vazusem postarea pana sa imi spui tu aici? Chiar nu bagasem de seama ca mai era o pagina (a doua) a topicului... Da, cel mai probabil, partea cu alesul celor 3 numere e doar o diversiune si nu are nicio influenta asupra castigatorului. In fond, nici organizatorul nu e experimentat, asa ca nu cred ca a gandit-o prea mult cand a pus si conditia aceea Smiley


Merci! Ah, tu de alt roman ziceai... credeam ca te referi la unul dintre cei mentionati de mine -- cei acuzati, sa zic asa, alaturi, de altfel, si de Averim, o mai veche cunostinta din sectiunea romaneasca... M-am uitat si peste topicul lui HrN, dar nu prea ai cu ce sa-l ajuti... din moment ce site-ul spune clar sa se evite adresele de Yahoo, iar el fix una din aceasta a folosit... ce sa mai zic... Noaptea mintii!

Edit: deja initiativa ta a si dat roade (!!), MJ a raspuns pozitiv solicitarii tale.

Hehe, ma bucur ca am avut o idee buna! Eram aproape sigur ca MJ va raspunde (pozitiv) sugestiei. Pana la urma, orice om cu capul pe umeri ar fi facut la fel. Ca sa nu mai zic si faptul ca, oricum, el incasase banii de la cei care cumparasera locurile cu plata. Era culmea sa se fi facut ca ploua si sa fi pastrat si banii oamenilor, dar el e serios, nu se preteaza la asa ceva. Una peste alta, ce sa zic... noroc sa avem Smiley
2059  Local / Română (Romanian) / Re: Vinde Bitcoin fara KYC: ATM-urile Bitcoin Romania care respecta anonimitatea on: January 05, 2023, 12:42:49 PM
Ar fi interesant de aflat de ce s-a implementat procedura asta.  E lăsat la liberă alegere pentru operatori sau încep şi autorităţile române să îi tragă oleacă de limbă şi urechi pe operatori?

Sincer, nu cred ca are Politia treaba cu cazul si totul tine de exigenta operatorilor. Daca era vreo obligativitate in acest sens, atunci toate ar fi trebuie sa se alinieze noilor norme, ceea ce nu se intampla. Cum spuneam anterior, la Bitcoin Romania nu exista "exigenta" aceasta pe care o manifesta Shitcoins.club... Dupa ce ma voi edifica si cu ATM-urile celorlalte firme vom avea o idee mai ampla insa, in acest moment, ce stim sigur e ca o firma actioneaza in maniera X iar cealalta in maniera Y.

La noi, totul e vag şi se întâmplă cumva după cortine.

Intr-adevar, nu prea apar multe in presa despre sectorul crypto. Nici macar celebra "lege de impozitare crypto" nu a fost prea mediatizata, desi era prima lege din Romania care se adresa veniturilor obtinute din crypto... Trebuie sa stai tu, cetatean fiind, sa cauti, sa te informezi... Noroc ca ne mai putem strange aici si mai impartasim unul celuilalt ce a mai auzit...

Parca NeuroticFish daduse un link, la un moment dat, cu nu-stiu-ce-catun din Romania care vrea sa creeze o criptomoneda alternativa proprie (da, suna amuzant). Pai crezi ca s-a mai auzit ceva de atunci...? Cauti oricat pe net, nu gasesti nimic, in afara de stirea aceea initiala.



Să fie decizia operatorilor de a implementa sisteme şi proceduri de felul ăsta pentru a evita situaţia în care sunt întrebaţi de o tranzacţie şi să nu aibă ce să răspundă sau se exercită presiune asupra lor?

Eu unul cred ca este decizia operatorilor. Daca s-ar fi exercitat presiune, aceasta ar fi fost exercitata asupra tuturor, nu? Nu doar asupra unora... Dar, uite, cand o sa mai merg la ATM-uri am sa si intreb. Sper sa nu uit.
2060  Local / Română (Romanian) / Re: Concursuri/tombole pe bitcointalk (sau pe aprope) on: January 05, 2023, 12:09:34 PM
Si pe langa asta, se alege si un numar de 3 cifre.
Castigator va fi cine a ales numarul cel mai apropiat de cel format de ultimele 3 cifre (arabe) din hash-ul blocului #771350 (mi-a fost clarificat, se va posta si in concurs)

Unde ti s-a raspuns, ca nu vad...?! Am intrebat si eu, dar mie nu mi-au raspuns...



Unul din romanii reactivati chiar are probleme si a cerut ajutor in sectiunea internationala - nu reuseste sa primeasca la timp e-mail de la blockchain.com si deci nu poate face ceva opratii cu portmoneul de acolo. Din pacate nu stiu cum l-as putea ajuta...

Da-mi si mie un link... cine stie, poate imi vine vreo idee buna...



Si daca suntem la capitolul "munci simple, dar platite"

Merci, m-am inscris! Si oportunitatea asta o ratam, daca nu erai tu  Roll Eyes



A mai fost inca o campanie asemanatoare, dar s-a umplut... scuze...

Nu e bai, dar tocmai ce am mai gasit si eu vreo doua oportunitati, dintre care una similara ([1], [2]), fapt ce ma face sa cred ca ar trebui sa incepem sa ne uitam (mai des) si prin sectiunea Services... Al doilea link e al unui concurs realizat in sectiunea Games and Rounds, ceea ce nu face decat sa-mi intareasca convingerea ca acolo e o paine de mancat Smiley Dar sa incepem sa ne uitam si prin Services...



Ca informatie, la urmatoarea editare voi sterge din lista de la inceput cele doua concursuri mai degraba inactive...

In ceea ce priveste concursul cu placuta aurita, sunt de acord (cu tristete spun asta, dar e un capitol incheiat). Referitor insa la concursul organizat de MJ, hai sa mai stam oleaca. I-am adresat acum o intrebare, daca poate rula concursul fara a mai acoperi restul locurilor, motivand cu 3 argumente foarte bune, zic eu. Hai sa vedem ce zice...
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