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2041  Economy / Services / Re: ★★★ EARN 0.0006 BTC PER POST - FLAT RATE FOR 45 DAYS - JR. MEMBERS ALLOWED ★★★ on: May 09, 2014, 03:05:37 PM
Why dont we all report this thread and get it removed, basically it was a scammer trying to get free advertising.  And everyone keeps chatting on a thread thats no longer active

True, it was bumped then everyone gives his idea of the deal or warn newbies that it is probably a sc.am

I reported the thread saying OP was AOK for 20days
2042  Economy / Services / Re: WE WILL PAY MORE FOR YOUR SIGNATURE! Up to 0.0014 btc per post! on: May 09, 2014, 03:03:09 PM
Experience is not everything. I would prefer someone who never done it, but has a great trust rating and is great with people. Teaching is easy, gaining trust is hard.

Are you applying for the position?  Grin

Funds on the wallet, and bitcoin wallet can't be banned. )

Good to know. I hope everything goes well with the campaign from now on.

Can we get the address with the funds, maybe it will calm everyone down.

The rates are great but it is a new campaign so there is a risk involved at the beginning; paying a few Hero M upfront would start things up
2043  Other / Off-topic / Re: The craziest shit you can buy with bitcoins right now? on: May 09, 2014, 02:59:09 PM
We are the team that runs All4Btc.com and we recently wrote about crazy things people have bought with Bitcoin

http://about.all4btc.com/drones-fish-crazy-stuff-bought-bitcoin/

Selling 1,000,000 products in 10months is impressive if the number is correct; you must be number 1 in the business

We definitely would be number 1 if that were true... We sold 1,000,000 Euro worth of products.

 Grin

I feel stupid now thank you Grin

1,000,000euros is actually good as well considering the circonstances
2044  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 09, 2014, 02:58:07 PM
How can you lose your savings if it didnt go to 0 ? The very worst you could do is lose 60%
That wasn't meant literally, of course.  Losing 60% of all you own is bad enough, don't you think?

But you CAN lose all of your life savings if you left the bitcoins in MtGOX, invested in Neo & Bee, or any of the other zillion bitcoin scams. (The first time I heard of bitcoin was when Rick Falkvinge tweeted that he was investing all his savings in bitcoin. Guess where he left them.  Fortunately for him he managed to get part of them out in time.)

You can also invest your 50'000$ of savings plus 50'000$ borrowed from relatives, friends and banks.  (You can bet that many people did that.  If the salesman says that for sure BTC will be worth 1'000'000$ in a few years...)

This idea that the government needs to protect you from your own investment decisions is comical.
It is funny, but one of the things that people expect the government to do is to protect them from scammers who try to sell unsound financial instruments with misleading promises.  That is why there are things like the SEC and consumer protection laws.  And that seems to be the reason why many bitcoin businesses catering primarily to US citizens are based in Panama or other unlikely countries.

Who's the sales person? Why is there this idea with you that people have been mislead and sold something by someone in particular ? In the fiat world scams are bought into all the time do we really need to start metioned Maddof et al ? Thats what you call being robbed of your life savings not investing in a brand new BETA technology and then moaning that its lost value because you listened to some guy on the internet instead of making your own decision. These fiat financial scams and frauds genuinely rob people of their lifes work and do genuinely sing promises of high returns.

The thing that annoys me most with your conjecture is that you speak as though everyone whos in BTC right now bought $1200 coins. Thats just not the case the majority of people are well above their initial investment and the rest of them are likely down no where near 60%. 

A fool and his money are soon parted and if somebody invests in a volatile asset that they can see with their own eyes has been so volatile and then moan that it goes down instead of up they are a fool.

If someone borrows $50,000 off freinds and family to invest in a ridculously volatile asset then they are a fool.

If someone left their Bitcoins with a third party service then they are a fool.

If someone invests more than they are willing to lose they are a fool.

Dont you see where this is going ?

I take it you advocate boiler room pump and dumps then that leave people with low single digit %'s of what they were conned into investing for promises of high returns.



I have not heard any people having a lot of bitcoins not saying there is a huge risk involved

The SEC protects nobody, they fine the banks so it means they fine the clients
2045  Economy / Gambling / Re: Primedice.com | 600M+ Bets | 350k+ BTC Wagered | Free BTC | 1% Edge | Instant on: May 09, 2014, 12:49:12 PM
Another happy hour in 5 hours 30 minutes from when this post was made!

Good luck all, hope to see you there Smiley

No happy hour at the moment... Cry

Had to postpone due to a couple of small reasons. Next happy hour will most likely be 20k satoshi's to make up for it Smiley

Can you tell when it will start? Roll Eyes

Yeah is this going to be today or re-arranged for another time? I missed the one the other day and I don't want to miss a 20k one.

I miss it too Sad



Just keep an eye on this thread. If anyone wants me to PM them I will do if I'm online at the time, but I myself might miss it.

Yes thanks if you remember you can PM me

PD is great to offer a 20K satoshis/minute faucet!
2046  Other / Archival / Re: remove on: May 09, 2014, 12:48:04 PM
Munger : Bitcoin is rat poison
2047  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: The Lucky Bit regulars betting pools - Bonus Round - Red pool now open! on: May 09, 2014, 12:43:59 PM
Green big bet pool round 47 bet 2.5BTC for the Crazy Hour grand prize attempt - and WON! Also, it hit x1.

During my logging, I overlooked a 0.001BTC bet by address 1HCTd - don't worry, you got a share out of my pocket!

(edit - I realized that send was supposed to be a fee donation. Oh well.)

Payout tx 5851ea8ee95effcd96b0be491a119aceae6f7419582a87920726b122f4560370

Congratulations to everyone who participated, it was a riot!

Thanks for making it possible

The big 1BTC bonus didn't bring many big bets, only the pool bet apparently; maybe the high roller decide not to bet big because they knew the pool was going to bet 2.5BTC
2048  Other / Off-topic / Re: If 1 BTC = $10,000 in 2014..... I will treat you guys to something . on: May 09, 2014, 12:42:15 PM
10k makes btc market size of 210 billion, which is about half the worth of Apple.   In order to be that valuable, really it should be as useful to as many people as apple products, is that viable in just one year?

By then the market value of Apple may be a trillion dollars; Apple is a single company

10k$ will still be small compared to Gold or USD M3
2049  Other / Off-topic / Re: Sir Richard Branson's vision for NYC to Tokyo in 1 hour on: May 09, 2014, 12:39:51 PM
I think this is going to be impossible unless some new regulations are adopted. (Doubtful)

Current generation civilian supersonic aircraft are prohibited from flying supersonically overland in most parts of the world. The problem of sonic boom was the single biggest factor in the commercial failure of Concorde and has continued to prevent adoption of supersonic transports.


So unless they plan on flying entirely over the open ocean and taking the "long route", there is no way they will accomplish this in the stated time.

Concorde costed a lot in research, a lot to maintain and a lot of fuel

It was very difficult to operate and the USA were trying to ban it
2050  Economy / Gambling / Re: EveryDice.com | 0.99% Edge - Instant Cashout - Invest - Referral - Mobile - Fair on: May 09, 2014, 12:37:37 PM
is there any progress with signature ideas, we need more advertising, this site is going to be among top 3 very soon.

Top 3 it's like 50th (http://cryptobettingindex.com/)

Devs are not interested by a sig campaign atm, I think they do advertise elsewhere

By bets it's 50th maybe, but bet number doesn't have much to do with profit.



That's true. A lot of bets of those top sites are generated by faucets.

number of bets is not really important...many sites have bots and many users use faucets only. Site should be measured by wagered ammount / time existing...

I don't know if PD counts the faucet bets, when you bet at a faucet it is not showed on the public log
2051  Economy / Gambling / Re: Primedice.com | 600M+ Bets | 350k+ BTC Wagered | Free BTC | 1% Edge | Instant on: May 09, 2014, 12:36:11 PM
Another happy hour in 5 hours 30 minutes from when this post was made!

Good luck all, hope to see you there Smiley

No happy hour at the moment... Cry

Had to postpone due to a couple of small reasons. Next happy hour will most likely be 20k satoshi's to make up for it Smiley

Wow 20k/min is huge I need to be here!
2052  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: Fucking Ponzi's and the idiots that buy into them + List of Shills on: May 09, 2014, 12:35:07 PM
list trimmed to just ponzi operators.
As passionate as I am about this topic, Im here to warn people away from ponzi operators, not to abuse people for their stupid "investments".

The main issue with ponzi operators is they churn accounts with each new scam.

Thank you, your message will be more clear like that and your fight against the ponzi scams will be more effiscient
2053  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: ★★ LuckyBit May 8th CRAZY HOUR ★ 9pm->10pm ★ Win a 1 BTC bonus! ★★ on: May 09, 2014, 12:33:33 PM
Results:

638 bets were played during Crazy Hour, one every 5.6s on average, impressive! Smiley

Winners of fact #2

bet 1: From 1PbzM83wnW23r1kaUa8romyWf2BQSgyrZw (txid:vout is 5fc3b5bd2ba0227d119591c9add398893b7e9d856a3be0ff26507acaeacaade2:0)

Prize payout (0.05 BTC): cd4b2f908bd0935256b950963685be7db2a560ac121e01e9ab8589be513a6658

bet 2: From 1LuckyQkg4x3AgAq9xhTpeQj99FvCGVk1V (txid:vout is d3ce790edb6a5185bdc95cfe077b8dc46b7c04d4ac7aecfedbc8e6e96067240f:9)
(thanks for the love message on blockchain.info)  Kiss

Prize payout (0.05 BTC): 98bfa7f1dad1c825ac8140e3dbd55f88473382ae1f3c02fbe7c7fd6d6066cced

bet 3: From 1RnadoKJsN89Ggyjz7WfkGuC9STNmvxvC (txid:vout is 51a8cf9d57b1c57ce5c60c052bbd180810f2b5b8e99d7c6b81a40120219b2cd9:9)

Prize payout (0.05 BTC): 846a3158edff6f04dd5c8990a6e7a0fae98e318a099a56f5d28a4a5e2b717350

bet 4: From 18wBGvJwBSnj9ZyeQ4p7z8f9JCTfe71Z2Z (txid:vout is 036dcb8e3b9e1f8eadf6453ca22cc6019799b836fc30883e0dacd06f4173051d:0)

Prize payout (0.05 BTC): f899bb55e0aa4cece3f9cc03482afbc761f75f926467e3bbd834be7b8236402a

bet 5: From 1PbzM83wnW23r1kaUa8romyWf2BQSgyrZw (txid:vout is c6580dac9954311edb0ebd1f5a90f98ec6fe853ba967d370c3c9ed06c9bbcc6e:0)

Prize payout (0.05 BTC): 1d1d625fb05f4bbea8a94f70389e9e27a716630eb3d147152243e8b05d1cab79


Winner of fact #3

Max amount played is 2.5 BTC
Winner is 1LBregs3t4goLpvBghbJbFLoyt1rPL3jJh (congrats to stingleword's pool)

Prize payout (1 BTC): e3fe6e5ac2d7ecd7d19309ae36c168f6f38445efd3109ce16a321e40ec678713





It was crazy again! Thanks to all our faithful players and wonderful mods! Smiley


YAY!

Won 50 mBTC x 2 Cheesy

Dam ! I miss it again ! argg


I know how you feel I always miss the 10,000satoshis/min faucet of PD that happens from time to time

Results:

638 bets were played during Crazy Hour, one every 5.6s on average, impressive! Smiley

Winners of fact #2

bet 1: From 1PbzM83wnW23r1kaUa8romyWf2BQSgyrZw (txid:vout is 5fc3b5bd2ba0227d119591c9add398893b7e9d856a3be0ff26507acaeacaade2:0)

Prize payout (0.05 BTC): cd4b2f908bd0935256b950963685be7db2a560ac121e01e9ab8589be513a6658

bet 2: From 1LuckyQkg4x3AgAq9xhTpeQj99FvCGVk1V (txid:vout is d3ce790edb6a5185bdc95cfe077b8dc46b7c04d4ac7aecfedbc8e6e96067240f:9)
(thanks for the love message on blockchain.info)  Kiss

Prize payout (0.05 BTC): 98bfa7f1dad1c825ac8140e3dbd55f88473382ae1f3c02fbe7c7fd6d6066cced

bet 3: From 1RnadoKJsN89Ggyjz7WfkGuC9STNmvxvC (txid:vout is 51a8cf9d57b1c57ce5c60c052bbd180810f2b5b8e99d7c6b81a40120219b2cd9:9)

Prize payout (0.05 BTC): 846a3158edff6f04dd5c8990a6e7a0fae98e318a099a56f5d28a4a5e2b717350

bet 4: From 18wBGvJwBSnj9ZyeQ4p7z8f9JCTfe71Z2Z (txid:vout is 036dcb8e3b9e1f8eadf6453ca22cc6019799b836fc30883e0dacd06f4173051d:0)

Prize payout (0.05 BTC): f899bb55e0aa4cece3f9cc03482afbc761f75f926467e3bbd834be7b8236402a

bet 5: From 1PbzM83wnW23r1kaUa8romyWf2BQSgyrZw (txid:vout is c6580dac9954311edb0ebd1f5a90f98ec6fe853ba967d370c3c9ed06c9bbcc6e:0)

Prize payout (0.05 BTC): 1d1d625fb05f4bbea8a94f70389e9e27a716630eb3d147152243e8b05d1cab79


Winner of fact #3

Max amount played is 2.5 BTC
Winner is 1LBregs3t4goLpvBghbJbFLoyt1rPL3jJh (congrats to stingleword's pool)

Prize payout (1 BTC): e3fe6e5ac2d7ecd7d19309ae36c168f6f38445efd3109ce16a321e40ec678713





It was crazy again! Thanks to all our faithful players and wonderful mods! Smiley


YAY!

Won 50 mBTC x 2 Cheesy

How many bets did you send?
2054  Economy / Services / Re: ★★★ EARN 0.0006 BTC PER POST - FLAT RATE FOR 45 DAYS - JR. MEMBERS ALLOWED ★★★ on: May 09, 2014, 11:05:31 AM
So I'm wasting my time with this?

OP : "Last Active:   April 17, 2014, 08:58:27 AM"

The link in the sig is a ref link
2055  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 09, 2014, 11:04:34 AM
The news - on coin desk and such - make it sound as if there is an international coalition of Mt. Gox. victims who thinks this taking over is best for them.
And as usual Coindesk is totally uncritical.


But perhaps a couple of biggest holders want to divide these 200,000 BTC among them, at the cost of smaller holders like you ...
Right.  According to some rumors, one of the largest accounts in the leaked MtGOX database was Mark's.  Will he get his share of the 200'000 too? (in a liquidation, the owners have the lowest priority.)  According to those rumors, other large accounts belonged to close friends of Mark.

By the way, no one knows who leaked that database and whether it is true.   It may have been doctored with the intent of stealing a large part of the remaining coins.

Suppose for example that the sum of all BTC account balances was actually 400'000, and the database was altered by adding another 400'000 to the accounts of certain clients, bringing the total to 800'000 BTC.  If the remaining 200 000 BTC were distributed according to the true database, each ordinary client would get 50% of his balance.  With the faked database, he will get only 25% of his balance, while those special clients would get to split 100'000 BTC that were never theirs.

The only hope to get the truth is through a police investigation.   If Sunlot takes over, no one will ever know what really happened inside MtGOX, and no one will know whether the payments (if any) were fair.

(I actually don't care about whether the clients will lose those 200'000 BTC too to "MtGOX 2.0", but like any sane person I get very upset when I learn that scammers and thieves got away, free and rich.)

OK, O probably did not phrase it well - but US court (based in Chicago, iirc) - agreed preliminarily to this proposal and lawyers representing some US customers joined with some lawyers representing "internationals" to try to convince Japanese courts.

Yeah, friends of Mark's hypothesis make sense - all simply well connected and very wealthy bitcoiners.  ASAIK the list is (mostly) legit, when it was published many people on reddit confirmed their holdings. But you are right that few accounts could have inflated amount of holding. And taking into account lack of any proper accounting at Gox - and them publicly admitting to processing transactions manually because it is faster Sad - it is probably possible to fake such holdings. Although true computer experts - who would look at the date of making records, deleted data on drives etc should be able to figure out the truth. If they seized Gox computers in time, that is - before the crucial hard drives went physically missing...
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I think there are ways to confirm that the accounts were not add up : history of trades and deposits
2056  Economy / Economics / Re: Worst bitcoin decision you've ever made? on: May 09, 2014, 09:18:05 AM
I hope when I first knew about BTC a year or two years ago, I get some of it.
I only got really interested now that its price is more than $400!  Tongue

I  think that if it was a good investment back then it is a great investment now

If it was only a way to get a quick buck back then it is too late now but I think it is a great investment now if you can wait a few years before it returns heavily
2057  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: The Lucky Bit regulars betting pools - Bonus Round - Red pool now open! on: May 08, 2014, 11:11:10 PM
Red tornado pool round 3 bet 0.0204BTC and hit 15x0.2, 1x2, and 1x9. Average: x0.7.

One of these seventeen bets won a Crazy Hour prize of 0.05BTC! This win was added to the result and paid to players.

Payout tx 0381153b7f00583108078e92754d8df82521cb92f607fccd16ce92e12fa5f801

I am surprised nobody commented the results

The green pool got the 1B bonus : https://blockchain.info/address/1LBregs3t4goLpvBghbJbFLoyt1rPL3jJh and the result was x1 so everyone get a 140% result probably paid soon?
2058  Economy / Services / Re: ★★★ EARN 0.0006 BTC PER POST - FLAT RATE FOR 45 DAYS - JR. MEMBERS ALLOWED ★★★ on: May 08, 2014, 11:09:01 PM
is it too late for the start

Beware

Quote
You're wasting your time. This was/is a scam. The op hasn't even logged on since the 17th of April. He just wants you to spam his referral link everywhere for free.
2059  Local / Hors-sujet / Re: Un ex-tradeur annonce la fin d'un monde ou la nouvelle renaissance on: May 08, 2014, 11:08:33 PM
Faut t-il mieux être un Roi au 17ème siècle ou un clochard en 2050 ?

Le rmiste en 2014 a un standard de vie superieur a l'ouvrier des années 60.


The Truth About Poverty
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-5rxFDXW4E


L'écart entre un travailleur sans qualifications et quelqu'un qui cumule toutes les aides est très faible, peut-être que le travailleur à 10-25% de plus en moyenne

La situation s'est détérioré aux E-U pour la classe moyenne depuis 1947 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHDcl5aiGus (en anglais)
2060  Economy / Lending / Re: Looking for a loan of 0.2384983 BTC on: May 08, 2014, 11:06:18 PM
@monbux yeap I kind of realized it when everybodystartes chatising me. No worries, I suppose I can just sell some of my stuff away.

Members will not send money to a stranger on internet, new on the forum and without collateral; you can probably understand that

I wish you good luck
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