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2161  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Interest Check] $2.99 (~.0241BTC) per GH/s, January delivery on: October 08, 2013, 12:58:51 AM
Bump?
2162  Bitcoin / Group buys / [Interest Check] $2.99 (~.0241BTC) per GH/s, January delivery on: October 07, 2013, 11:31:46 PM
Listed on securities exchange in 1GH/s units, trusted & reliable ASIC provider (CT), escrow provided, possibly collateral until shipment arrives, no minimums. Two year contract (or until no longer profitable), no flat hosting fee, but $.02/KWh electricity passed on. Possible redeemable value by issuer to help ensure liquidity the market may not be willing to absorb. Significant pre-launch quantity discounts possible.

Would also be interested in gauging market price on hashes for December.
2163  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: John K Escrow Alternatives on: October 07, 2013, 09:29:33 PM
Appreciate thread recs., but I'm not particularly interested in touching group buys.
2164  Economy / Services / Re: 0.4 BTC / month free (Best payouts - NO POSTING NEEDED & Updated :) on: October 07, 2013, 01:08:13 PM
TF, what are you going to do about the forum downtime? Do you want to push everyone back 5 days?
Why would you suggest that...?  Angry  Cheesy
2165  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Next difficulty ~176,000,000 ? on: October 07, 2013, 10:45:18 AM
Bitcoin difficulty just hit 189,281,249, everyone please stop buying any more miner so I can break-even from my current one!!!
Mining is designed to protect the network, not make you profit.
Profit is designed to protect mining.  Smiley
2166  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Operation: Corporate Bitcoin Funvangelism [help wanted] on: October 07, 2013, 09:04:03 AM
Reserved.
2167  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Operation: Corporate Bitcoin Funvangelism [help wanted] on: October 07, 2013, 09:03:38 AM
Previous targets (delivery date, initial response, end result):
none

Scheduled future targets:
none
2168  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Operation: Corporate Bitcoin Funvangelism [help wanted] on: October 07, 2013, 09:03:14 AM
Current Targets



Paradox Interactive (Sweden), Fredrik Wester (CEO)
Summary: A wooden, displayable, small-scale longship is to be delivered to Paradox's HQ in Stockholm by Ludvig. The longship will be stuffed with goodies from Bitcoin businesses (to show, rather than tell, the diversity of businesses supporting BTC), and include a square cotton sail on the mast. Painted on one side of the sail will be a Nordic-themed Bitcoin logo (currently need someone to design this), and on the other side will be various Bitcoin businesses which contributed free or subsidized product. Along with gifts, the longship will contain an envelope containing a "primary letter" I have written, which goes over contact information for the local emissary (Ludvig), very briefly explains Bitcoin, gives contact information for Swedish BTC-oriented lawyers, accountants, and ecommerce developers, goes over a few benefits, and argues why Bitcoin is a good fit for Paradox as they launch their new web store. The desired result is an in-person meeting between Wester and Ludvig to fully explain and sell Bitcoin to the target. Included in this envelope, I'd be pleased to also include letters written from Paradox customers encouraging acceptance of Bitcoin.

Have - Local emissary (Ludvig/Deadterra), someone to paint the cotton sail, primary letter content [RD1, WIP]
Need - longship, gifts, customer letters, meet location in Stockholm

-reached out to Joerg Platzer for help in putting this all together

Current Sponsors (at-cost or free gifts):
Bees Brothers (Maybe)

2169  Bitcoin / Project Development / Operation: Corporate Bitcoin Funvangelism [help wanted] on: October 07, 2013, 09:03:00 AM
Goal: [1] Send an exceptionally eye-catching introduction to small-medium corporations which may be open to accepting Bitcoins for their goods or services. This introduction needs to make it either to the targeted executive or someone with the necessary authority. [2] Try setting up an in-person meeting between the target and a competent local emissary to first explain Bitcoin and its benefits, then to help support its implementation with recommendations of locals familiar with implementation and regulatory challenges.

Impression sought: Supernatural entity demanding full attention toward subject matter. It needs to demonstrate organic community excitement toward Bitcoin, as well as unprecedented interest by the community in the company.

Ideal targets should
  • sell products directly to consumers
  • have >$5M annual revenue (effect substantial # of people)
  • have <$250M annual revenue ("dangerously" unlikely mail won't reach target VIP)
  • have a fun business culture and work environment where efforts would be appreciated
  • be some type of "specialty" producer (no "general goods" like Amazon or eBay, which sells almost everything and would be difficult to tailor for)
  • Have substantial BTC community support

PM/email/Skype if you're interested in contributing (current needs for projects are listed in post #2 - no financial donations are currently requested). Payment for goods or services may be requested, though I probably won't be able to offer market rates on work.
2170  Other / Off-topic / My America, Land of Assholes on: October 07, 2013, 07:35:03 AM
[I submitted this to Forbes as an op-ed, but their editor-in-chief is a weak-willed vagina. Decided against posting in Politics, in case someone might take this "seriously."]

   Please don't misinterpret the title of my essay. I was very proud of the America I envisioned in youth from American history textbooks, ignorant of our true, wretched state. Growing up, I learned of Americans' great demonstrations of spontaneous will. While still Europeans, we demanded America's resources, forcing "Indians" off lands we could exploit more efficiently, were we generous enough not to enslave or kill them outright. Upon cementing our stranglehold of power as White America, we declared a war for independence over, by today's standards, shockingly-generous tax rates. We dumped traders' tea and made unlawful claim on territory justified individually by raw will. Out of criminality, there was new law, written by traitors, and so Chaos' Garden of Eve was established. When we finished our bloody business, we would begin our own imperial adventures to ensure American dominance of Our Continent. Very soon after tax rebellion we collectively initiated (less Loyalist dogs), we went on to crush tax rebellions against our government, failed to uphold contracts to pay many veterans of our wars, continued enslavement of races of lesser will, and continued the genocide of our natives. Historically, civilian power lust like ours was lost in the world after the hundreds of European powers consolidated into big hegemonic blobs and monarchs became too powerful to challenge. When the true America came out, messiahs of Chaos, we demanded change, and we were very willing to kill for it. Throughout history and even today, there are no rulers so willing to kill its own and others in so many unique instances, usually with no valid cause of war (and occasionally even with proven-fabricated casus belli) – but this is no surprise, remembering we established the most powerful stronghold of Chaos to ever exist.
   Without American exceptionalism so pervasive in American textbooks, any reasonable person, I think, would conclude America is inhabited primarily by assholes -- I very much yearn for that America preached to us in history class. It is disappointing to me, then, to consider modern Americans' failure of individual will. For example, consider most modern Americans will not wield arms except when ordered or prescribed by law. For, to do other than ordered is chaos – right? Yes – that is how the contemporary Americans think, and this thinking in itself I have no issue with. I do, however, take issue with how we now consider “chaos” a bad word – something “wrong” in the world we need to correct with government and homogeneity – except when chaos comes from government itself. It's a fascinating paradox, really. Government, we view as an enforcer of order. Yet – what does our government do? It acts as aggressor in unprecedented wars, implements so many regulations that simply discovering all the regulations which apply to a potential business is alone a barrier to entry, has a notoriously confusing mess of tax laws (such a confusing mess, in fact, that most American tax-payers pay a person or company to file tax forms for them – an indirect tax for paying taxes), and domestically, the US government violates its own laws when an Executive Order isn't able to legalize criminal activity. Our government, on all accounts, is an unrivaled force of chaos, hypocritically demanding pure order (otherwise phrased, submission) of its citizens.
   In revolting disregard to the philosophical implications of their submission, today's Americans quietly accept governments' demands! They do not take up arms, they do not otherwise violently protest – they are not feared. Americans are puppets of another's chaotic endeavors – of another's will! Citizens of America are disgusting, putrid abominations deserving of eternal torment in the deepest level of Hell. There is no more despicable, cowardly hypocrites to ever plague our Earth. I hate them all utterly, and would righteously spit on each one I saw and see were I not also the same pathetic scum. Still, while I don't deny my own inability to act purely on will, I am still willing to admit internal conflict due from the prevailing American attitude of defeatist-Nihilism, which turns these cowards to deification of others to justify our existence, whether radical animalism, humanism, or outright worship of government. While talking of Americans' government-worship, I should mention the US has – believe it or not – FOUR cable television networks dedicated to covering everything the US government does, operating twenty-four hours a day, covering everything government, insisting everything they do matters to the American people. Vile American journalists consider a politician shopping in-person at a grocery store worth minutes of each viewer's limited time. Even some American churches engage in government worship and even idolatry, with government symbolism behind the pew of God's shepherds! Worshiping false idols is of no difficulty to the American Heathen; the filthy pig claiming submission to religious law. This doesn't account for the hundreds of websites dedicated to news, nor the hundreds of radio, newsprint, and other television networks which dedicate resources to worshiping our government, implying theatrical squabbling in Congress and “official” text as more important than the will of individual men of production. If the citizens of America should all be doomed to eternal damnation, the agents of American media should certainly be damned back at least to their seventh grandfather, after being sewn inside a dead camel and irregularly beaten with blunt objects after the camel has significantly progressed into decomposition.
   This America we live in now – this prison of “rationality” - is not the America I was taught exists while growing up. This America we live in now, is the epitome of Nietzche's Last Man. America is a scam, and I hope we all die horrible deaths. -Or please kill me.
2171  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Nefario on: October 07, 2013, 07:11:15 AM
Well this is disappointing, returning after several months to find nothing has happened with this. Obviously I'll check the rest of the forums, but if someone would be so kind as to tell me if everyone really stopped caring about this in April, or should I look elsewhere?
The securities lists were sent to issuers. I never saw funds returned, but the value was in maintaining the contacts and having lists of who owned what. It was a clusterfuck, but at least nobody can claim ability to run off. It could've been a lot worse, so I don't think anyone has the passion to really persistently push for a more ideal outcome.
2172  Economy / Speculation / Re: End of Silk Road is good for the long run on: October 02, 2013, 06:27:40 PM
There are already established clones. You can't do much worse than have a operator who was visited by DHS in July, volunteered information about buying fake ID through SR, and apparently still thought himself untouchable enough to continue business as usual (either that, or he isn't the anarchist we thought he was). So yes - SR's disappearance is good long-term for using BTC to purchase illicit goods online, because I can't imagine much worse.
 Roll Eyes  Tongue
2173  Other / Meta / Re: Institute threadcrap fine/sticky for Marketplace & child boards on: October 02, 2013, 05:54:54 PM
Not cool, guys. I want my money.
2174  Economy / Economics / Re: Re-visit the question: What is bitcoin's value backed by? on: October 02, 2013, 05:28:24 PM
Weed
Weed
Weed
Weed
Still arguing about that ?




D   r   u   g   s





Soooooo.... yup.  Grin
2175  Economy / Services / Re: 0.4 BTC / month free (Best payouts - NO POSTING NEEDED & Updated :) on: September 30, 2013, 07:59:03 PM
hmm replying I guess I am not receiving payment as I have not updated advert!
Probably this
No third party ads in your signature.
2176  Economy / Securities / Re: [SecondMarket] Bitcoin Investment Trust™ (Non-Official thread) on: September 30, 2013, 03:33:59 PM
Hm...I may be mish mashing Canadian and American rules together.  Seems you yanks don't have it as tough down there although recent changes to rules on general solicitation may be making it tougher.  It would seem that as of now, accredited investors could slip by despite not actually being accredited but that if this happens, securities issuers could run afoul of SEC rule 506(c).

I'll have to do some more reading.  I was firmly under the impression that claiming status as an accredited investor when you are not such a thing was fraudulent.
It is fraudulent to claim you are an accredited investor when you aren't, but companies don't have incentive to actively breech users' privacy to attempt denying service, and government doesn't have much incentive to try enforcing these rules on an individual level when there's no indication of illegal activity. The only exception is when there's potential for "terrorism," which is probably the reason for SM's background check. (it's probably not a full financial audit determining whether or not the potential member is an accredited investor - but since they don't say exactly what the check is or what it's for, it's hard to say for sure)

A bigger, similar-in-principle loophole example in these kinds of rules would be the FEC's political contribution rules. You can donate up to $50 anonymously. So long as it isn't a bunch of $50 bills together in the same envelope, the political campaign or organization has no reason to dig into a bunch of $50-containing envelopes (or BTC transactions) unless there's something very suspicious about it. Unless someone's indicating they're running afoul of the law, people are generally allowed to take others' word in good faith.

The Gox-Coinlab suit has a similar issue. CL allegedly told Gox they were properly licensed (or would become licensed -- Gox's statement seems to claim both, but maybe I misread). Gox took this in good faith, which they are allowed to do. Gox isn't and wasn't required by US law to verify everything CL says was absolutely true. Gox didn't have to demand CL's MSB licenses for all 50 states. When Gox decided to back out of the deal, one of the key reasons they gave was that they looked into it and found CL was not fully licensed, so the deal would've been unlawful and is thus void. It's hard to believe Gox did not already know CL wasn't fully licensed, but they signed the contract anyway, probably thinking this excuse to back out was an asset, which it may turn out to be.

The US is increasingly creeping toward a society where every allegation has to be fact-checked by the Surveillance State, with the AML/KYC/BSA laws being thrust into the average joes' awareness thanks to registered BTC exchanges - but we're not completely there, yet. (ETA: I tried to indirectly hint that SM shouldn't be liable for taking lies in good faith when there's no indication it's a lie, but just so it's explicit... - and since I went this far with it - IANAL disclosure, I'm just looking for free legal consultation challenging me if I'm spouting off a ton of misinfo)

Trying to forge your way into this fund seems like a silly thing to do. You are putting yourself and the fund at jeopardy. If you have the skills to forge the documents you have the skills to invest 25K in Bitcoin without having to have SecondMarket hold your hand.

This is a stupid conversation to be having on a public forum, anyway. Please think people.
There are no documents to forge. There are boxes to enter in your income, investments, and net worth, similar to how "liar loans" worked.
2177  Other / Off-topic / Re: My Internet Speed is 10kbps?? on: September 29, 2013, 11:09:26 PM
Could be all sorts of things.

Who's your ISP? How are you downloading (torrent, web browser download, through some download manager)? Do you use proxies? Are you running any programs which consume a significant amount of bandwidth while downloading (web browsing, Bitcoin client, Skype)? What was the latency of the connection, as measured by speedtest?
ISP: Centurylink
How downloading: Web browser download
Proxy: No
Programs: Not other then the web browser
Latency: 69 ms

I can't find anything suggesting CL throttles or otherwise shapes certain traffic. Should probably contact their support if you're confident you aren't using the bandwidth elsewhere. (if you only have one PC on network, you can double-check by downloading something like NetLimiter -- the free version will still show how much bandwidth each application is sucking down)
2178  Economy / Securities / Re: [SecondMarket] Bitcoin Investment Trust™ (Non-Official thread) on: September 29, 2013, 10:51:40 PM
Uh huh.

You must be over 18 to view the material on this site. Are you over 18?

Residents of the US are not permitted to access our gambling services. Are you a resident of the US?

Only accredited investors, as defined by the SEC, are permitted to invest in the Bitcoin Investment Trust. Are you an accredited investor?

Erm...it's slightly more tricky than that.  A good amount of documentation is required to prove that you are an accredited investor.  Second market requires the same sort of accreditation proof that retail stock brokerages require if you claim to be an accredited investor.

This is not simply a tick box that any 12 year old can deftly ignore.
This isn't suggested by the signup form. You self-certify all the information you enter into boxes. There are no mechanics to allow the uploading of any documentation in the accredited investor portion of the signup sheet, though maybe they do this later for every individual (I didn't get past the page asking for information for a background check - I wouldn't know). They indicate they do a background check, but don't indicate what they're looking for.
2179  Other / Off-topic / Re: My Internet Speed is 10kbps?? on: September 29, 2013, 10:33:20 PM
Could be all sorts of things.

Who's your ISP? How are you downloading (torrent, web browser download, through some download manager)? Do you use proxies? Are you running any programs which consume a significant amount of bandwidth while downloading (web browsing, Bitcoin client, Skype)? What was the latency of the connection, as measured by speedtest?
2180  Economy / Services / Re: BFL Mug on: September 29, 2013, 08:36:32 PM
Smash it on your forehead for 0.2?

nothing to hurt myself lol
Wuss. Check out this "badass."

First, we tried it with a friend's phone. I stapled myself 3 times, but the quality was horrible.
Then, I tried it alone with a camera I found in my garage. I stapled myself 5 times, but the camera didn't save it, because it needed an SD card.
Next, we did it with another friends phone who claimed his phone took great videos. +5 staples. +1 bad quality video.
Finally, my friend took a video with a good camera. 11 more staples, but we lost the SD card.
So, we did it again with the same camera. 6 more staples, and we found the SD card with the previous video.

So, that's a total of 30 staples, if I did the math correctly, for these two crappy short videos. My favorite part is "Welcome to staples!"

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/23228112/staple%20005.MOV

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/23228112/staple%20006.MOV
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