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221  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you believe in god? on: September 22, 2016, 08:11:09 PM
I was thinking maybe "BOB" this is really easy to pronounce in any language and even little children will be able to say "B-O-B". Let's call "God" BOB so everyone can lay this matter to rest.  Grin

BOB an acronym for "Believe Or Burn".

Great name for a "loving" God.
222  Other / Politics & Society / Re: How old is earth on: September 18, 2016, 08:17:05 PM
First, science proves God exists.

Cool
Science is guesswork.

Cool

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223  Other / Politics & Society / Re: How old is earth on: September 18, 2016, 07:16:41 AM
There are 4 major Black Hole Theories. None of these theories are compatible with each other. But the important thing is, none of the Black Hole theories could work inside any of the Big Bang universes.
God works in mysterious ways.

There are 3 major Big Bang Theories that are all different. None of these Big Bang Theories are compatible with each other.
God works in mysterious ways.
224  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you believe in god? on: September 16, 2016, 08:24:51 PM
Come on people. Science proves God exists, nature shows God exists, and in the Bible God tells us He exists. God rules all.

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Sure... and the Earth is flat...  Roll Eyes
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No, the earth isn't flat. It has mountains and valleys. But God tells us that He will make the rough ways smooth. Isaiah 40:4:
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Every valley shall be raised up, every mountain and hill made low; the rough ground shall become level, the rugged places a plain.

Cool

i like the way you defend GOD against unbeliever person. im very happy to saw a higher rank here that still honor amd recognize the Creator. two thumbs up for you sir


Now why on earth would anybody feel the need to "defend" God? Can't God defend himself? What sort of silly God would need someone else to fight his battles?
Seems to me if someone is defending their God, then they don't really have much faith in it after all. If their faith was strong they wouldn't need to.

225  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you believe in god? on: September 04, 2016, 08:41:39 PM
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The New Testament is and contains eye witness reports to the fact of Jesus death and resurrection to eternal life. Jesus was the first. We will follow... one way or the other.

I'm starting to think that he's just a super dedicated troll... I mean, someone sane couldn't possibly say this and truly believe in this.

Hearsay accounts are not eyewitness accounts.

Christian literalists will stop at no lengths to persuade you that the bible is a reliable historical account of Jesus. At the same time, persuading you that other competing holy books are deeply flawed.


Perhaps we should throw our all the records about ancient Greek and Roman philosophers and scientists as well. Have you just pulled your head out of the sand, or what? Sounds like you need to stick it back in there.

Cool

Depending whether they fit inside your narrow religious doctrine guidelines will decide if you throw them out or not.
Anyway, the point is, the gospels aren't eyewitness accounts because eyewitnesses didn't write them. They are not firsthand accounts. They just say what they heard, hence "heresay".
Using the word "eyewitness(es)" is rather misleading. Which is common delibrate tactic, as we would expect.






226  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you believe in god? on: September 04, 2016, 07:07:44 PM
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The New Testament is and contains eye witness reports to the fact of Jesus death and resurrection to eternal life. Jesus was the first. We will follow... one way or the other.

I'm starting to think that he's just a super dedicated troll... I mean, someone sane couldn't possibly say this and truly believe in this.

Hearsay accounts are not eyewitness accounts.

Christian literalists will stop at no lengths to persuade you that the bible is a reliable historical account of Jesus. At the same time, persuading you that other competing holy books are deeply flawed.


227  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you believe in god? on: September 03, 2016, 09:41:52 PM
Well, ask yourself about yourself. Imagine that you are a cab driver. You give a couple of guys a ride to a fast food place with the instruction to wait for them to get lunch, and then to take them on to another destination. They rob the fast food place. You don't know it. Are you a crook for earning a living, especially since you didn't know what they were doing?

Cool
I told you before, the cab driver thing doesn't work, because the cab driver isn't omnipotent.
Now if God was the cab driver, he would know full well in advance what the guys would do. If he was happy with them doing it, he would give them a ride, if not then he wouldn't.
But you conveniently forget the part where both the O.T. and Jesus said that we are gods. God made us so great that we have some God-like capabilities. God made us so great as to have free will that He can't entirely outguess. But this free will is in the strength of our faith.

LOL, what type of useless God is that? Cannot even figure out what we are going to do next!
Little wonder he messed up the universe this time round with rotten wood.  Roll Eyes
I suggest we revoke his status of God.




God, with good and right intentions, made people to be righteous. People could have remained righteous. The fact that they didn't isn't God's fault. If God had forced them into being unable to sin, they would not have had freedom, and they would not be people.

Cool
God obviously designed people so they can sin. So yes, it's his fault people sin.
Why just not invent sin in the first place?  Huh
But God also designed people so that they didn't have to sin, and he commanded them not to. So, it was people who decided to sin when they were told not to.

Then, to make sure that people didn't have an excuse like you are trying to use, God made a way out for people, but people rejected the way out willingly, just like you are doing. You have no excuse.
So let's get this straight. God invented sin. Designed people so they could sin. Told them not to. Then they sinned, which he knew would happen in the first place, but went along with it anyway. Then gets angry.

Something tells me you've haven't thought this through properly.  Roll Eyes





Are you afraid to accept His salvation where there is forgiveness for the sins?

Cool
Loaded question. You've presupposed that I need salvation.
The fact that you continually speak against God, shows that you need salvation from His anger against you for the way you talk. The fact that you are able to exist for even a moment after speaking against God shows that you have this salvation temporarily. But if you don't acknowledge Jesus, your Savior, you will lose any salvation that you have, when you die.
There is zero evidence he is angry with me. What you mean to say is you want God to be angry with me. But not quite saying it.
I still exist because either 1) God doesn't exist, or 2) God exists, but doesn't care. Anymore than that is blind speculation.
Presupposing I need a savior of course with the Jesus thing.





In the New Universe God is creating, there will be none of the pains and problems any longer. There will only be joy. Everything in this universe and life will be forgotten forever by those who go to the New Universe God is making.

Cool
Well, let's hope he doesn't use rotten wood and dodgy nails this time round.
God didn't use anything imperfect the first time. The second time will only be for those people who have placed themselves under His dominion, voluntarily, while living here. So, when He takes away the will to sin in the afterlife, He will simply be doing as everyone who joins Him has asked Him to do. Those who don't ask Him to do it will perish with this universe.
If the universe is perfect this time round, why bother making another one? The next one will be identical, because anything different wouldn't be perfect.




When you get to the quagmire of everlasting destruction that Hell is, remember that you are the one who didn't accept the way out.

Cool
Better than brown nosing.
But it won't feel better in Hell. Your choice, however.
Assuming hell exists of course.





He sent me to you to warn you, and probably other people as well.

Cool
The only people that has sent you are the religious elite, with their manufactured artifical threat.
Well, if it makes you feel important.  Roll Eyes
The proof will be in the resurrection. But think well. It doesn't hurt me much to be religious if there is no resurrection. But it will hurt you greatly if there is and you haven't changed.
All to do with probability.
The probability that I will die in a car accident tomorrow is smallish, but not zero. But for all intends and purposes the probability of it happening is zero really. It probably won't. So I base my life on that, and jump into my car.
The probability that I will have a heart attack or stroke tomorrow is low, but not zero. But for all intends and purposes the probability of it happening is zero really. It won't. So I base my life on that, and have commitments.
The probability that I will win the lottery tomorrow is minute, but not zero. But for all intends and purposes the probability of it happening is zero really. It won't. So I base my life on that, and goto work to earn some money today.
The probability that I need to seek salvation in Jesus is microscopically tiny to the smallest atom, but not zero. But for all intends and purposes the probability of it happening is zero really. It won't. So I don't.

I won't be losing any sleep over it. Smiley





But you, of your own free will, didn't listen. Turn and be saved while you have the chance.

Cool
Can't do that. No free will remember.
We don't even have free will.

We don't have free will in the things of life. We do have partial free will regarding our faith in God. Then God looks at our faith, and adjusts life according to the way our free will faith suggests. No free will in the things of life, but free will in a portion of our faith strength.

Consider this parable that Jesus told. From Luke 13:6-9:
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6 Then he told this parable: “A man had a fig tree, planted in his vineyard, and he went to look for fruit on it, but did not find any.

7 So he said to the man who took care of the vineyard, ‘For three years now I’ve been coming to look for fruit on this fig tree and haven’t found any. Cut it down! Why should it use up the soil?’

8 “ ‘Sir,’ the man replied, ‘leave it alone for one more year, and I’ll dig around it and fertilize it.

9 If it bears fruit next year, fine! If not, then cut it down.’ ”

Jesus is watering you and fertilizing you through the things I am telling you. But if you don't produce fruits of faith within the time allotted to you, you will be cut down and thrown into Hell.

Cool

I've told you before, you cannot cherrypick what we have free will over. Either we do with everything or we don't with everything. Simply as that.

I already have fruit on my tree. The fruit are fine, they are just not to your taste that's all. Your better off picking some from another tree instead of trying to change the fruit.

228  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you believe in god? on: September 03, 2016, 07:52:53 PM
Well, ask yourself about yourself. Imagine that you are a cab driver. You give a couple of guys a ride to a fast food place with the instruction to wait for them to get lunch, and then to take them on to another destination. They rob the fast food place. You don't know it. Are you a crook for earning a living, especially since you didn't know what they were doing?

Cool
I told you before, the cab driver thing doesn't work, because the cab driver isn't omnipotent.
Now if God was the cab driver, he would know full well in advance what the guys would do. If he was happy with them doing it, he would give them a ride, if not then he wouldn't.


God, with good and right intentions, made people to be righteous. People could have remained righteous. The fact that they didn't isn't God's fault. If God had forced them into being unable to sin, they would not have had freedom, and they would not be people.

Cool
God obviously designed people so they can sin. So yes, it's his fault people sin.
Why just not invent sin in the first place?  Huh


Are you afraid to accept His salvation where there is forgiveness for the sins?

Cool
Loaded question. You've presupposed that I need salvation.


In the New Universe God is creating, there will be none of the pains and problems any longer. There will only be joy. Everything in this universe and life will be forgotten forever by those who go to the New Universe God is making.

Cool
Well, let's hope he doesn't use rotten wood and dodgy nails this time round.


When you get to the quagmire of everlasting destruction that Hell is, remember that you are the one who didn't accept the way out.

Cool
Better than brown nosing.


He sent me to you to warn you, and probably other people as well.

Cool
The only people that has sent you are the religious elite, with their manufactured artifical threat.
Well, if it makes you feel important.  Roll Eyes


But you, of your own free will, didn't listen. Turn and be saved while you have the chance.

Cool
Can't do that. No free will remember.
We don't even have free will.







229  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you believe in god? on: September 02, 2016, 09:50:23 PM
Ofcourse I believe in God because he is our savior. He is always here for us to save us from harm. All we need to do is to praise whenever we are or what ever we do. God also give us leaders who guides to become a better man. God gave us parents who take care us when we are not matured. And also God gaves us talent, skills and knowledge so that we can engage in several problems in this world. So love God and put God first.

Are you absolutely sure about all that?

We truly live in an era of smart phones and stupid people.

*snip 4 images proving God doesn't give a shit about the welfare of little children*


God doesn't do the above pictures. People do. If you hate this poverty so much, give more to helping these people, and to replacing governments that let or make it happen.

Cool

There you go again, cherrypicking what your god is or isn't responsible for.  Roll Eyes
Either your god is responsible for everything, or your god is responsible for nothing. You can't pick and choose to your liking, that's absurd.




230  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Christian BS on: August 31, 2016, 09:14:03 AM
I think the Christians in this thread need a warm congratulations from us all.
Giving us such a real deep in-depth demonstration of the BS they speak, has been a real eye-opener for the rest of us and must be quite fatiguing for them to constantly keep their BS levels high.

Thanks.  Smiley

231  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Christian BS on: August 30, 2016, 10:36:50 AM
Christianity is so contradictory

+1

Christians are simply unwilling to take the time to think about what they are reading in the bible, if at all.

232  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: August 28, 2016, 08:37:18 PM
What's the matter? Can't show that God doesn't exist scientifically?

Cool

*Sign*  Not sure if your being delibrately insolent or just trolling. Here it is for the last time tonight:

"Science cannot prove or disprove God."

So the answer to your question is no. The same answer it's always been.






233  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: August 28, 2016, 08:32:46 PM
He did however, get you to expose your own bigotry, and it is bigotry.

Bigotry: "intolerance toward those who hold different opinions from oneself."

Of course I'm a bigot, I'm human, it's part of my DNA.
Name a single person you know that isn't into bigotry. Spoiler alert: None.

Ask yourself:
      ISIS holds different opinions from yourself. Are you intolerant towards their beliefs?

See.  Smiley
234  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: August 28, 2016, 08:24:50 PM
The closest thing that comes to opposing the science I show, is pseudoscience theories.

Cool

EXACTLY. You can only fight pseudoscience nonsense with more pseudoscience nonsense.

Now join up the dots.  Roll Eyes


Well, lets see some then.

Cool

So you're asking me to have a pseudoscience argument debate with you. Sweet mother of God why? What the point of that?
Why not use your time more constructively and read up on pseudoscience. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudoscience
235  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: August 28, 2016, 08:13:39 PM
The closest thing that comes to opposing the science I show, is pseudoscience theories.

Cool

EXACTLY. You can only fight pseudoscience nonsense with more pseudoscience nonsense.

Now join up the dots.  Roll Eyes
236  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: August 28, 2016, 08:01:26 PM
What's an all-might skydaddy? What is this fairytale?

Cool
The Christian idea of "father".

But then you knew the answer to this already didn't you.  Why lie and pretend you didn't? Unless it was rhetorical of course. Roll Eyes

There's no lie in his statement or interrogative.

There are dozens of types of lying. Half-truths, lying by omission, noble lies, to name just a few.
Not sure what the offical name is of the type BADlogic just used,  but it was a lie as in lying to himself pretending he doesn't know something, when actually he knows full well what that something is.

Don't ask me why. I've know BADlogic a long time. I know exactly how he operates.

237  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: August 28, 2016, 07:50:08 PM
What's an all-might skydaddy? What is this fairytale?

Cool
The Christian idea of "father".

But then you knew the answer to this already didn't you.  Why lie and pretend you didn't? Unless it was rhetorical of course. Roll Eyes

I guessed the answer someone like you would say. But that is not what God is scientifically. Read my above explanation in a previous post. What's the matter? You can't refute the science either, can you?

Cool

"Someone like me", what, as in truthful you mean? The answer is the answer who ever says it. If I wasn't here someone else would answer the same.

Still going on about your pseudoscience I see. Everybody else figured out years ago true science cannot prove or disprove God. Get over it and moved on. It's boring. Roll Eyes

238  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: August 28, 2016, 07:36:04 PM
What's an all-might skydaddy? What is this fairytale?

Cool
The Christian idea of "father".

But then you knew the answer to this already didn't you.  Why lie and pretend you didn't? Unless it was rhetorical of course. Roll Eyes
239  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do islam hates people? on: August 28, 2016, 03:36:32 PM
how dare you insult Islam?
Oh, is Islam immune from insult, criticism, scrutiny and ridicule?

What do you know about Islam ?
Enough to make me give it a wide berth.

Islam is a beautiful religion ,
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
240  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Miscellaneous Heaven And Hell In Islam on: August 28, 2016, 03:18:55 PM
Muslims believe that you will go to heaven and get 72 virgins, if you fight to defend Islam.

Unbelievable, the guys strive (kill people with their suicide attacks) because of the reward (72 virgins). oh that rewards incredible.

4. HEAVEN MA'WA                                   : heaven is intended for those who fear Allah ( An -Najm : 15 )

Why would any sane person fear an obvious false god?

Also, if your statement were true, why would heaven be exclusively reserved for cowards only? Makes no sense.

I believe in heaven and God.

Oh. Well, lots of people do. But that didn't answer my questions. What point are you trying to make?

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