Know it's still very soon, but can't wait for all this bitfinex business to price out. The halving seemed to usher in so much craziness; the DAO, hashocean and some very large scale intrusions. There is a lot going on at the moment, and I think confidence might be shaken a bit. But it's not the end, it just needs time. This is the most volatility I've seen in btc for some time, but I'm not always paying attention.

I would think they would be increasingly legally liable/complicit if they didn't report this, given the sheer magnitude of the funds stolen here.. Beyond the shadow of a doubt this has been reported, or surely the citizens have swarmed local law enforcement with individual complaints. There is simply too many people and too much money involved in this for the cops not to bite.

This is the reality of the situation. They are both here at this point, better to accomdate both than to.try to poloraze folks. Plenty of miners for both chains, and the price will be more volatile if there are two of these coins to play off of. They serve entirely different markets, these coins are there own individual beasts at this point.

Exactly. No major theft has every been followed by a dump; it's kind of dumb becuase dumping means gettngnless than what you could have gotten, had you simply been patient. Smart money would put stoken money in sell orders x percent above market, slowly but surely. Hell, it was free, what's the rush?

That support (Vitalik) may turn out to be a liability in the future. If he becomes further vilified in this through yet another twist of this crazy story, ETH might not recover, given the current sentiment about the fork, post fork. Seems to me alot of people wanted a fork, got it, then had an ideological change of heart once they realized they got to have their cake and eat it too.

I'm thinking all these hacks and fuckups can't be coincidental. It's been shit season for crypto lately, now that we are beyond the Halving. It's like all the hackers, scammers and riffraff were waiting for the price surge to strike. But yeah, exchanges only when you need to speculate; as soon as that position closes, my money is moving back home within the hour. Makes tracking profit and losses a breeze.

If you don't have some access to the key, you don't have the coins. We have so long to come security wise before this thing is gonna be viable.

'The criminal's crypto'. I like that, nice ring to it.

Any consideration to the fact that bitcoin took a dramatic L yesterday? I think that might have had a lot to do with the price movement on most coins, but it's just a conjecture.

Shit dude contact support of course, they can look at the account access log to help you sort shit out a bit. Did you access from a secure terminal?

I see everyone is mellow today, usually this thread would be ten pages long with 'I told you so eat a dick'

Lol, that was a pretty decent article. I chuckled into my tea multiple.times.

Bitcoin is quite obviously not a scam, and the slock it debacle was a clusterfucks, not a scam. Tell me, what is a good reason to hide ones identy in this case (beiing a developer of an altcoin)? Why would some one do that? And has it ever worked, that is, has an anon dev project come to serious fruition?

I'm not knocking the coin, I don't know or really care about it. I'm just saying there is absolutely no good reason for a dev to hide their identity in this space. Point period blank.

Why do you seem personally invested in this concept? I seek not to diminish you, yet you react as attacked.

Yes, contempt for hiding their identities in a world where you can barely start a business without revealing your whole identity. If being a hero is being a realist, please had me my cape.

Why hide ones face from something one has invested time and energy into? Either they are afraid if the fruits of their labor, or there is a nothing but poison fruit.

I get that, in a very 'over my head' type way, but can we not agree this would have simply emerged had they exhaustively used the program (for 5 or 6 months)? Playstation is selling entertainment devices that have more rigorous field testing. This was a financial instrument. If it took years, it should have been trialed until the possibility of something like this happening was very unlikely.

If the devs aren't proud enough of 1000s of hours of work, and hundreds of thousands of lines of code to put their name on it, it probably isn't what it seems/worth it.

You serious fam?

I will say, they seem inversely correlated, like the trading is specifically going on between ETH/ETC. Notice, however, ETC reacted to the btc dip, while ETC didn't.

I'm telling you, the ETH guys have battle fatigue from all that DAO/fork nonsense.

How does one launch an alt without announcing it here first?? I thought the alt section was like rediit for random ass coins.

If you were to calculate your energy use vs your bitcoin yield, you would understand why graphics cards are being suggested. It would be better to use a graphics card; also, with any coin worth mining the difficulty should be increasing on you

'The biggest mistake in the DAO wasn’t bad code but launching when the platform was still too young and the tools still immature. In hidsight it’s easy to point that many things could have been done to limit the size or scope of the project, but the truth is that nobody expected the DAO to become as big as fast as it became. The DAO was Ethereum’s first viral sensation.'

I disagree. It was certainly bad code. Despite how minute this may seem, given more testing I feel it would have emerged eventually, even in related projects (like it did). The bad code was a result of the DAO becoming a 'viral sensation". Seems like the devs got caught up in there own hype, and rushed a 'young' and 'immature' product to market.

Those pumps are now illegal per SEC rules, its considered 'spoofing'.

While some of these coins are indeed subject to orchestrated price swings, I have respect for those that can move the more capitalized markets (btc, ETH, DOGE, etc). Lot of money being weilded.

Lol, it's like all the older members have a bad taste in their mouth about streemit. I can't put my finger on it, but I feel like it will end badly for a lot of folks.