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1621  Other / Politics & Society / Re: WikiLeaks publishes "biggest ever leak of secret CIA documents" on: March 07, 2017, 11:39:58 PM
I really don't get the surprise or outrage at this. Fuck yes, I want the CIA to be able to do all the shit in this document, and more. I want them to be able to see through fucking walls, to be honest. Y'all don't get this privacy shit, so let me break it down.

YOU ARENT THAT FUCKING IMPORTANT. The government is not trying to spy on regular people. There are more people than analysts, exponentially so. there is no way they have the time or resources to listen in on individual citizens in a meaningful way, because there is a whole nations worth of communications to sort through, every 24 hours. If you feel some kind of way about 'radical Islamic terrorism', then why would you feel some kind of way about our government having the tools to catch said terrorist?

So unless you are:

A international drug dealer
A self radicalized crazy head
A spy
President Trump

you really aren't cool enough for the government to be spending money to watch you look at interracial porn and read the forum.

This is was not a win for the common guy. Far from it. This is a huge blow to our national security, in the face of growing conflict with multiple nations. And the timing is suspect, giving the growing scrutiny on the intelligence community after Trump's seemingly erroneous accusations.
1622  Other / Politics & Society / Re: You eat pork you look like pork on: March 07, 2017, 11:33:12 PM
Let's not jump to conclusions. Road rage might affect people's cognitive abilities and perception. This Muslim was clearly shaken by that minor car accident.
Of course that amount of ad hominem insults he slurs, and his overwhelming desire to punish and blame the female for this incident is strange.
But unless you were in similar situation and acted in a civil&decent way you shouldn't bash that Muslim too hard.




It's useless man. You can't reason with blind hate. Have fun, but don't try to sway these dudes. This is the "Muslims react to pork like vampires" crew. We all are grown, despite having these arguments, deep down of course these guys know that all Muslims aren't the same. The revulsion at the religion is a convenient foil for hatred of the skin. Populism is a response to thinking one is losing their place in the world, a reactionary thing. The people that hold these views, that display clear intelligence but hold such dated concepts, this is fear. Xenophobia.

How can you hate something you don't even know?
1623  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Big: Donald Trump claims Obama spyied him, claims this is Watergate-level event on: March 07, 2017, 11:23:47 PM
Planet Earth. The 3rd rock, if you will. But since I have had my head under a rock apparently, when I missed solid evidence of Hillary Rodham Clinton being a lesbian. Surely you can point me to this prolific evidence? I imagine you should be able to provide lots of links, from reputable sources, no?

Will this work?

http://www.politico.com/gallery/2013/07/how-close-are-huma-abedin-and-hillary-clinton-169489?slide=0

I don't have any private videos showing Hillary having sex with Huma, if you only want videographic evidence. Seems like they didn't stored their private pics and videos in iCloud.

I read Politico about 6 times a day (literally), so I was surprised you chose this source. So I read the article (looked at the pictures mostly, not alot of text). I didn't really get a lesbian vibe, more of an asshole vibe from Hillary. Huma is floating around the background holding some shit for Hillary (giant bag, papers). Reminds me of Anne Hathaway in the 'Devil Wears Prada'. But nah, this is no more close than I would expect two females that have been working together for almost a decade to behave. And Weiner is seriously, seriously into poon; I'm thinking he wouldn't have married a lesbian. This is not a one chick dude. At one point, she was putting out, even if that may have changed.

Unfortunately, this won't work. Any other sources?
No offense but your logic above bolded does not hold.  These people are after power and control, marriages of convenience are likely quite common.  That certainly includes the Bill/Hillary and the Weiner/Huma ones.

Google Hillary lesbian, have fun.  It's been an open secret for decades.  Numerous cases Bill Clinton has said this.

By the way when I mentioned this I wasn't disparaging Hillary, but just noting that no I don't want a lesbian POTUS with a Muslim squeeze from the Middle East.  That stinks to high heavan.

LOL, so you would rather have a reality television host, that won't release his taxes or divest, but you are afraid of a lesbian with decades of political experience, that has actually served in the White House?

What's your beef with lesbians? I thought Rebuplicans believed in meritocracy. If she does eat box, how would that affect her ability to lead? I wanted Bernie, but either one of them has more experience that the POTUS.

Are you that afraid of a woman, bro?

And don't you think it's odd, how we got leaks on Flynn and Sessions, but this damning evidence that would certainly sink the Clintons forever, make them out to be the AntiChrist you guys paint her as (she just a really rich old white woman as far as I see), has never surfaced after all these years?

And if she is lesbian, she keeps her shit tight. Trump can't even have pissplay with sex workers without fucking it up.

So, I think I favor the ninja lesbian over the failed businessman. Maybe we wouldn't have all these leaks. Running a child sex ring (ROFL, you guys are on that shit) must make for a shrewd ship.

Trump could suck dicks on camera for Scooby Snacks. I could give a single fuck. I just want someone with policies that make fucking sense. Put Bill back in that bitch. He wasn't even that fond of us, Blacks, but at least we wouldn't be buddy fucking Russia and calling our intelligence agencies and media the enemy. Got caught getting his dick sucked, and lied about the shit, but still wasn't derp enough to accuse the media of being the enemy. And when the Monica shit was going down (which was childhood popcorn) the media was not friend of the Clintons.


Hell, I'd take Bush Jr again, for 3 more terms, at this point.
1624  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Sweden returns a call to the army in connection with the threat from Russia on: March 07, 2017, 05:02:30 PM
Although I hate to see any kind of draft, one of the duties of living in a place is being prepared to defend it against foreign aggression. With that being said, I find it highly unlikely that Sweden will actually go to war with Russia, so the worse that will come of this is that alot of young adults will get a salary, a free resume builder, and discipline. The armed forces aren't for me, but they do build character and discipline. I'm for anything that builds a better person. And soldiers put their lives on the line for defense of home, which I have the utmost respect for.
1625  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Trumps Travel Ban? (Round 2) on: March 07, 2017, 04:45:46 PM
Well, I think it's the same shit on a different day. We still aren't targeting the countries that actually produce terrorist (the US and Saudi Arabia. I shit you not. When I found out we actually produced roughly half of the guys we pop for terrorism, I shit a brick). I feel this is the case because Trump has financial interests that he does not want to piss off. It targets people for religion still, with prettier words. Since we founded the country in the pursuit of religious freedom, I think it's bullshit. I know alot of you hate Muslims (despite the fact that most of us don't even know one), but if you want to paint all followers of Islam with the same brush, then do so. Don't treat the ones you like different just because you make money with them. Be an asshole unilaterally, I say.

Compare Snopes (we can all agree this is an  unbiased source):
http://www.snopes.com/2017/02/14/countries-terrorists-come/

With this (more statistics specifically on Americans that engage in terror):
https://www.newamerica.org/in-depth/terrorism-in-america/who-are-terrorists/

The second source is seeming non partisan, you can check the credentials of each of the researchers on the bottom of the page (everyone is pretty experienced, and you can't really lie about this, it's a matter of public record that is easily fact checked.)

So why are we focusing on those particular countries, that don't have Trump towers, when the countries that are the problem (and have Trump Towers) are ignored? The numbers don't lie.

1626  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Who is stronger the government or the president? on: March 07, 2017, 04:35:06 PM
Sorry not knowing this kind of stuff, its just i wanted to know who's the strong one of them because some of my friend told me that the government is strong because they can decide to impeach the president and also i thought that president is more stronger than the government for that the president is more likely  has a bigger rank of his country.. so i need your opinion on this one and teach me Cheesy

In the USA, the president functions as a part of the government, as head of the the executive branch. This is one of three branches of our government, which all have equal power. He can only make very broad policy decisions, but has complete control over the American war machine. Most laws need to pass through the legislative branch, the arm responsible for passing laws. But the executive order can be used to great effect, as these zing merrily past the legislative branch into actuality. Like the travel ban, for example. Congress would have never let that pass, had it been a bill (see my avatar). It was too poorly written, which is why it was appealed in its first iteration.

But, the legislative branch has the power to impeach the president. This won't happen, unless some very, very serious shit comes to light (like the Russian or Azerbaijan affairs), because there is a majority of members that are the same party as Trump. So, the government is stronger than the president, as he is just a government employee, but because his party controls 2 of the 3 arms of the government, he is beyond reproach at the moment.
1627  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Muslim athlete initially banned by Trump arrested for child sex abuse in US on: March 07, 2017, 03:05:28 PM
It's reasonable to ask that question to one of those damn evil clerics that Muslims think can answer and interpret all questions relating to the Koran.  I only answered directly a ridiculous question by Greenbits about "which part of Sharia law do I object to."

Of course, many other parts are extremely objectionable.  But the point of my comment is that the Koran and hadiths attempt to control an individual's life down to the most minute detail.

I'm not kidding about this, and they don't want to tell you about it or let you find out about it.

A religion is meant to provide motivation, hope and compassion to the humans. But if it dictates each and every fine details of our life, by saying that we should do this, and we shouldn't do that, then it can no longer be called a "religion". It is more like enslavement or servitude.

All of the Abrahamic faiths have pretty rigid tenats to follow, if you are Orthodox/traditionalist/conservative. I think Judaism has it the worst. Would you consider the practice of Judaism slavery? They have very strong edicts on diet, appearance, and behavior. In fact, being the stewards of the old convenant, I would say they probably had the worst of it. The Lord was quite specific in the covenant he has with them.
1628  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Big: Donald Trump claims Obama spyied him, claims this is Watergate-level event on: March 07, 2017, 06:04:00 AM
Planet Earth. The 3rd rock, if you will. But since I have had my head under a rock apparently, when I missed solid evidence of Hillary Rodham Clinton being a lesbian. Surely you can point me to this prolific evidence? I imagine you should be able to provide lots of links, from reputable sources, no?

Will this work?

http://www.politico.com/gallery/2013/07/how-close-are-huma-abedin-and-hillary-clinton-169489?slide=0

I don't have any private videos showing Hillary having sex with Huma, if you only want videographic evidence. Seems like they didn't stored their private pics and videos in iCloud.

I read Politico about 6 times a day (literally), so I was surprised you chose this source. So I read the article (looked at the pictures mostly, not alot of text). I didn't really get a lesbian vibe, more of an asshole vibe from Hillary. Huma is floating around the background holding some shit for Hillary (giant bag, papers). Reminds me of Anne Hathaway in the 'Devil Wears Prada'. But nah, this is no more close than I would expect two females that have been working together for almost a decade to behave. And Weiner is seriously, seriously into poon; I'm thinking he wouldn't have married a lesbian. This is not a one chick dude. At one point, she was putting out, even if that may have changed.

Unfortunately, this won't work. Any other sources?
1629  Other / Politics & Society / Re: You eat pork you look like pork on: March 07, 2017, 03:59:29 AM
This is something that has to be fully looked down upon by the Muslim community or it's something that is just going to continue to thrive, I've seen many religions come out against doing these types of things to women and I personally haven't seen anyone high up from the Muslim religious community come out against this.

It's something that has to be addressed in order for the Muslim religion to be able to be allowed to thrive and not experience as much hate as they already have from people in the world today. Disgusting to see a man doing this terrible stuff to a women like this.

I concur, this is sad. And I won't be an apologist, conservative interpretations of the "chastisement" verse actually do believe it's okay to hit a female. But, modern Islamic interpretations don't still abide by this. Like Christianity or Judaism, there are many different sects with variations on the original theme. But this shit is disgusting. He needs to get his ass kicked around a bit. He has forgotten his father's face.

FYI, an imam that doesn't support violence against women:
http://muslimmatters.org/2013/12/21/end-hitting-women-islamic-perspective-domestic-violence-imam-abdullah-hasan/
1630  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Trump plans to revoke Obama's Clean Water Act on: March 07, 2017, 03:44:44 AM
http://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/321490-trump-moves-toward-repealing-obama-epa-water-rule

So Trump wants to get rid of laws governing clean water. What a great president /s. Good Job Republicans

Shhhh

Repeat after me: Trump is good, Trump is great.
He has the best water. Honestly. This is the best clean water in the world. You can ask anywhere they will tell you. Fake news but best clean water.

It's gonna be downright bigly, how motherfucking good this water is gonna be  Grin

This slow motion train wreck has some benefits. This is the most entertaining careen off of a cliff that I have seen in a while. Wylie Coyote-esque in its scope.
1631  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: March 07, 2017, 03:22:58 AM
People do not choose theatheism. Atheists, simply, do not have faith in God; And those who lost faith in God, found themselves without faith in God, that is, they became atheists. They did not choose anything, did not choose, they did not take anything. They just abandoned the belief in God as a uselessness.

God is natural knowledge in everyone. To be an atheist means that you are resisting God. It is a lie. But as long as there is peace in your life... as long as you don't have great pain or great joy... you just may be able to hold the vision of atheism in view strongly enough so that you will think you have forgotten God.

Cool

For once, we agree. Unless I misunderstood you, but your words seemed clear. You wrote with a beautiful plainness, and I applaud you.

Well spoken, sir. And you can have a cookie as well (that is a compliment of mine, not an attack).

Edit: actually, I read some of your recent posts on religion, and I have a new found respect for you. I apologize for judging you man. I don't agree with your political views, but it is obvious to me you walk the Lord's path.

Edit edit: I really read through you, and I'm confused. Are you a follower of Trump? I saw some anti Hillary stuff and assumed, but after actually listening to you, I'm confused.
1632  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Will Trump survive the first period as president of the US? on: March 07, 2017, 03:16:12 AM
Hard to call, really.  Things are already getting just a little bit farcical and he's only been in office for 6 weeks.  Most former presidents struggled to cause as much scandal in a full term as Trump has managed to squeeze into just 40 days.  If he does somehow manage to make it to the next election, he genuinely has to be one of the luckiest people alive.  Surely he's already broken a record for the most lawsuits a president has ever been involved in?  And that's just during the time he's been in office.  Over the course of his whole life, Trump and his various failed business ventures have probably seen more court action than every current and former president of every country in the world combined.

He's a joke.  Literally a joke.

You get a cookie. And you can sit with us Wink

He's like a dead baby joke. You know its going to end badly, but you keep listening because you have to hear how it ends.

But it's not the man that keeps surprising me. This, so far, is textbook Trump. It's his supporters. Despite how farcical this gets, despite how damning the Russian thing develops, he can do no wrong. They have literally associated this human man with God. They decry the media, but have swallowed the party line without truly dissecting the rhetoric. I knew we were sheep, but I did not know we would run gleefully to slaughter.

But in his defence, he is doing exactly what he said. Despite the consequences.

When history has a chance to reflect on this, people will be put on sides, depending on their words and actions. I feel for those that chose the wrong side.
1633  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Facebook now requiring photo id, fuck you facebook on: March 07, 2017, 02:58:39 AM
Er, this has been going on for years to unlock accounts. Are all the conspiracy hysteria sites grasping for news today?

And government ID is nothing compared to what people already give them by using it 'anonymously'.

Amen. If you are concerned about associating your ID with Facebook, then you obviously don't use Facebook. It's literally a fucking collection of people's faces. And names. And daily activities. The government can do this for you, and probably already has. This is to cut down on anon troll assholes, and I have no problem with that. When one uses Facebook, you have essentially given away your right to privacy, ESP from state actors, given the nature of the service.

But I will say, I haven't heard about this before today.
1634  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Big: Donald Trump claims Obama spyied him, claims this is Watergate-level event on: March 07, 2017, 02:50:20 AM
When it was Trump or Clinton the American public decided we may as well get a show out of it.
In the end both candidates are still terrible.
Either way it would not surprise me of Obama tapped Trump tower but the government denies the fact well just another story to munch popcorn for.

Obama has done it even before the POTUS elections, and I have no doubt that he might have done something similar to Trump. He was quite desperate to have a Democrat successor.

Yep the democrat plan was basically 8 Years Obama (Black Man) followed by 8 Years Hillary (White Woman) but also the first woman president, then either a black woman like Michelle Obama or a LGBTQ member. ....

Minor correction.

The first lesbian woman president.

You know, I have nothing against her cuddle buddy Huma Aberdin.

Except that Aberdin is Iranian.

There are rumors about Hillary that she was bisexual. But I have never found any evidence to prove that she was attracted to men. On the other hand, it is very evident that she likes the women, especially little girls. So you may be right. She would have become the first lesbian president of the United States.

Really? Link me to some evidence. Something reputable.
  What planet are you from, to ask a question like that? 

Hillary's preference for women has never been denied.

Side note:  I don't recall evidence about the "little girls" part.

Planet Earth. The 3rd rock, if you will. But since I have had my head under a rock apparently, when I missed solid evidence of Hillary Rodham Clinton being a lesbian. Surely you can point me to this prolific evidence? I imagine you should be able to provide lots of links, from reputable sources, no?
1635  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Muslim athlete initially banned by Trump arrested for child sex abuse in US on: March 07, 2017, 02:46:34 AM
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And as an atheist, I'm assuming you used to come from an Abrahamic faith. In my experience, most atheists reject a childhood religion when they see it grossly misapplied. Misapplication isn't actual practice. Do you think that the people you were around were good representatives of said faith, given how you reacted? Bad Christians aren't Christians. They are mislead people spouting non sensical bullshit. And it's those people that fuck it up for everyone else.

Also, as an atheist, recognize your bias. You have obviously seen some shitty stuff done in the name of God. Don't you think that may have colored your perceptions a bit?

Well, your experience is irrelevant.  I've seen both good and bad things done in the name of God and in spite of God.  Why you would imagine the sort of things you've asserted is hard to understand.  Limited experience, maybe?

Sure, I'm only 30. And I have as well. I am not an apologist for Christianity. I have seen absolute evil being put forth as the work of the Lord. I'm Christian, and pretty serious about it, but if we could get past our differences and sit down, you would find we have similar views about organized religion. It can be beautiful, but when misapplied, like it usually is, to advance some agenda of a person or group and not the Lord's Kingdom, it can sometimes produce atheists, such as yourself.
1636  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Big: Donald Trump claims Obama spyied him, claims this is Watergate-level event on: March 07, 2017, 02:40:11 AM
When it was Trump or Clinton the American public decided we may as well get a show out of it.
In the end both candidates are still terrible.
Either way it would not surprise me of Obama tapped Trump tower but the government denies the fact well just another story to munch popcorn for.

Obama has done it even before the POTUS elections, and I have no doubt that he might have done something similar to Trump. He was quite desperate to have a Democrat successor.

Yep the democrat plan was basically 8 Years Obama (Black Man) followed by 8 Years Hillary (White Woman) but also the first woman president, then either a black woman like Michelle Obama or a LGBTQ member. ....

Minor correction.

The first lesbian woman president.

You know, I have nothing against her cuddle buddy Huma Aberdin.

Except that Aberdin is Iranian.

There are rumors about Hillary that she was bisexual. But I have never found any evidence to prove that she was attracted to men. On the other hand, it is very evident that she likes the women, especially little girls. So you may be right. She would have become the first lesbian president of the United States.

Really? Link me to some evidence. Something reputable.
1637  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Big: Donald Trump claims Obama spyied him, claims this is Watergate-level event on: March 06, 2017, 05:19:37 AM
....

Again, fuck the Clintons. For some reason, conservative think we put her (or them) in that hallowed, Christ-like place that the dim put Trump. If she fucked up, lock her up. But don't have ignore the orange elephant in the room.

Well, you know that there has been continual efforts to find shit that sticks on the Orange, and that goes back all the way into the Republican debates.

Good luck with that.  Easy enough to wait and see how it turns out.  I'd lay my money on the sleazy little Bamster doing the wire tapping.  Meanwhile you'd like some dirt on the Orange.  Why?  Why bother?

He might do some good things, and you've already shown no respect for the Clintons, so this is what we got...

I'll tell you what to expect.  The gangster Democroaks and their Saudi friends are going to go all out to try to win a couple of seats back in the House and the Senate in 2018.  That's what all this sleaze is really about.

LOL, you may notice that Saudi Arabia was not included in the travel ban, despite being one of the greatest sources of extremist. Seems like he may have a few Saudi friends as well.

Why do I want a possible treason committed by the POTUS to be exposed? Guess I'm just old fashioned.

And how much do you respect ole Bamster? Should I read your posting history? Because I think we would all know what we would find. Take your lumps lIke a man, like we did.

And why am I supposed to be kissing Clinton ass again? I have issues with her as well. Its just, she never said she was gonna grab anyone by the pussy. And then get elected. And then fuck it all up.

Now maybe Bill might have grabbed some pussy. I'd put money on that.

And yall are fucked in '18 Smiley

Have you checked the odds on 45 getting impeached?

Bigly.
1638  Other / Politics & Society / Re: I have a better solution to the illegal alien issue. Let's jail the employers. on: March 06, 2017, 03:44:40 AM
E-verify. We have a system where you can put in the social of a worker, and see if its valid.
Fake document makers can use name, ID, DOB of some real person.

But unless that person doesn't work, they should show up in the system. With a job.
1639  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Big: Donald Trump claims Obama spyied him, claims this is Watergate-level event on: March 06, 2017, 02:25:45 AM
To hell with Weiner courting little girls. I wanna hear about Trump getting pissed on.

Alot of us can give a flying fuck about the Clintons. She was a shitty candidate. We could give fewer fucks because ultimately, she didn't win. So much easier and more important to focus on the fucked up stuff our actual, elected president is doing. Weiner is a pervert. This, isn't even debatable at this point.

Weiner was made a scapegoat, to protect the reputation of the Clinton crime family. All he was doing was to recruit young girls to "service" the Clintons. It is well known that both Hillary and Bill have a weakness for minor girls.

Ah damn. You are one of those PizzaGate guys.

Let me tell you a secret. Really rich people do perverse shit, because they can.

Also, are we really gonna deny the small army of females that claimed the president sexually assaulted them? I wasn't going to bring it up, because it honestly doesn't reflect on the current shitshow, and it is unproven. There is enough to point out without bringing conjecture into it. Like saying that a surrogate wrangles pussy for a former president and his wife.

Good old number 45. The first president with rape charges.

This is going great, guys.

Again, fuck the Clintons. For some reason, conservative think we put her (or them) in that hallowed, Christ-like place that the dim put Trump. If she fucked up, lock her up. But don't have ignore the orange elephant in the room.
1640  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is US election really get hacked? on: March 06, 2017, 02:17:08 AM
The claim was not based on the U.S election actually being hacked, it was based on the DNC being hacked in order to give Trump an advantage over the democratic nominee for President, Hilary Clinton. People don't seem to care about the intense and disgusting corruption that was present in the Democrats process of picking their nominee by undermining the competition and giving Clinton a high chance of winning.

Not only this, but the blame on all of this has shifted to the Russians wanting to put in Trump as the President of the United States. Not only has no evidence really surfaced relating to this but the Democrats are going to keep jumping on this train until they can win an election (hopefully they can't)

Dems have a tough 2018 with Congress and Senate elections, I wish them the worst!

Oh, we won't be seeing to many Rebuplican faces come 2018. They fucked the dog with this one. If you think the GOP will do bigly in 2018, check out the town halls our elected officials are running from. Unpresidented, to say the least. Never any protest like this last administration. Also, if the Russia shit goes south, the entire GOP will go down in flames. Which is disappointing. You guys have it right on gun control and small government.

Comrade, this is going to get interesting.

And the best part is, it's quite obvious that they have dirt, but they are trickling it down from least to greatest. You think these leaks are just falling out in order of severity die to chance? You don't get to shit test our intelligence services. They kill foreign leaders. Made the wrong enemies, the deep state will get deeply in that ass.



As if fucking with people's health care was gonna fly. WEAK!
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