As mentioned above, ISIS has ultimately claimed responsibility for this attack. Apparently they were tweeting shit about the arena some hours before this, for all the monitoring that the UK gov does, I'm going to need them to pay attention goddamit. I think they may have released a statement at this point, still researching this.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/808077/Manchester-terror-bombing-explosion-attack-Ariana-Grande-manchester-arena-ISIS-twitter

An unverified Twitter account posted two messages and an image of an ISIS flag.

The messages appeared to predict the atrocity at the arena filled with 21,000 fans.

One message said: “Are you forget our threat?”

Followed by: “This is just the beginning.”

The tweets, which are not verified, are time-stamped at 6.24pm, four hours before the bomb went off.

No group has claimed responsibility for the attack yet, although it has been widely celebrated by ISIS.


Thats changed subsequently. They also released a video, guy holding up a sign with "Manchester 2017-05-22". I dont know if it's legit but you would have to be a demon to troll this hard this soon.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/this-only-beginning-sick-video-10480115

..video has surfaced online showing an ISIS jihadist saying "this is only the beginning" after the Manchester 'terror attack' that killed more than 20 .

In the unverified footage, a man wearing a mask and sitting in front of a black flag making the ominous warning.

The man then holds up a sign bearing the words "Manchester 2017-05-22", a reference to yesterday's date.

Hours later ISIS claimed responsibility for the attack via the Reuters news agency.

The language is a bit biased (just pointing it out, not being an apologist) but facts are facts. Call it what you will, radicals have committed an atrocity.


Condemn this shit. But don't lash out blindly folks, if you are close to this. Understand who did this, and who didn't do this but might be a convenient target for your rage. I don't want anyone doing any dumb shit, calm down folks. Additional crunkery will only compound this misery. Stay away from public shit too, the sentiment us that this might not be the last of these. Be safe, be careful community.

Tea tree oil. While I am for vaccines, because we live all close and shit, I'm not a friend of the pharmaceutical industry. Colloidal silver as well, takes a bit longer though. The tea tree oil works great to control spider mites and insect infestation in your garden, and the silver heals wounds fast, and keeps food fresh linger than usual if you cook with it.

The world is such a beautiful construct, in its harmony

I'm still a bit sad about this, but I am curious to see how Trump spins this. He literally, less than 24 hours ago, painted a pretty and inclusive picture of Islam, a far cry from his campaign rhetoric and policy up to this point. The WH even claimed he was 'exhausted' when he forgot to mention 'radical Islamic terrorism'. That's bullshit, he wasn't about to piss off his hosts, that's being a bad guest. And besides, they have that orb that absorbed a piece of Trumps soul during that ceremony. If they unleash that shit, God help us

 Given that he is the topic of the year, the media will embed itself into his ass, as it has been doing since the election. I personally don't side with the anti Islam shit, these are clearly crazy motherfuckers that give one whit about God. But dammit, this will fuel the anti immigration rhetoric for weeks. This was a giant 'L' for everyone.

Breitbart and Fox are going to be all over this.

Well, for one, it's fucking hilarious. Also, it has the right ring to it. And, for the record:


https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/05/19/us/politics/trump-russia-comey.html


The White House document that contained Mr. Trump’s comments was based on notes taken from inside the Oval Office and has been circulated as the official account of the meeting. One official read quotations to The Times, and a second official confirmed the broad outlines of the discussion.

Sean Spicer, the White House press secretary, did not dispute the account.

The White House seems to be lying about a great deal of shit these days..

Yezzir, seems like it. No one has claimed responsibility but it's being treated as a terror attack, at least by authorities.

Greater Manchester Police say at least 19 people are confirmed dead in what is being treated as a "terrorist incident until police know otherwise" at Manchester Arena.

Bunch of kids here, this is all bad, man. Can't see something inadvertently blowing up twice, Ill go ahead and call it. This is gonna dominate BBC and related news cycles forever, terror + kids = international outrage. We shot off 50 bil worth of ordinance at an empty airbase because of pictures of terrorized kids in Syria. If a radical terrorist group claims this, this could turn into a really bad incident of civil unrest. The public will want its pound of flesh.

This is like the Shark Week of terrorism/tragedy. NYC, the additional campus stabbing, the double homicide thing where the white supremacist guy converted Islam and killed his two Neo Nazi roommates* because they wouldn't convert. I'm not making this shit up; you can't come up with something like that without writers.

And now this. It's starting to feel surreal again folks, these are indeed strange days.

* http://www.alternet.org/fbi-busts-atomwaffen-neo-nazi-florida-and-finds-explosive-radiation-materials

Because white women are such a rare and precious commodity on a global scale.

I do not know why some white people believe that white women are universally attractive, like all groups, it's usually inter cultural this is opportunity at best, but, this is nonetheless tragic. Ignorant anti Muslim rhetoric won't solve this, however, it just adds an additional layer of attribution to muddle the issue. Being anti refugee is valid. Not Christian, but certainly valid. But putting this on Islam when, like terrorists these guys clearly aren't practicing their faith correctly. If I were a displaced person with nothing to lose and a penchant for rape, when I came across this:



You already know what time it is. Rape time.

Y'all are shooting the message in the foot with the bigoted rhetoric. At least be clever about the shit, use dog whistle terms, it has worked fucking amazingly for the GOP.

JAHahaha You get a cookie.

I got soo confused on number three, but I think he means media representation. I was in the same place you were for a bit lol, I had to feel for intent so it makes 1 and 3 the same kinda, he has obviously never seen any parts of the Fox News Network it's my answer to the OP, lol.


To end this argument quickly, how many contemporary United States conservatives have been subjected to state sponsored genocide, because they are conservative? They cooked Jews in fucking ovens, for Christ's sake. Show me some conservative gss chambers and I'll bite.

Conservatives aren't being vilified right now, at least by anyone with sense. The GOP is being vilified because they are reluctant to endanger the party agenda by admonishing Trump. The alt right is being vilified for going full retard and putting real life Lex Luthor into office. And Trumps cabinet and family are being vilified for being proximal to Trump while he is a media target.


Conservatives are cool people

In the realm of sucked dick, versus subversion of a 200 year old institution by our most powerful adversary, I'd choose the dick. It's more common than you'd think. But the delicious Kremlin-shaped storm clouds hovering over the White House just won't blow away

To the Trump supporters, the diehards, the ones that still defend this guy, what are you going to do when they impeach 45? Race riot? And although you ignore Russia, because your media outlets do, both Democrats AND Republicans are gunning to oust Trump. Pence is distancing himself. Trump asked three government law enforcement officials to make false statements about the case. And this was a known thing, it was waiting to be revealed. If he wouldn't have fired Comey, they would have walked up his ass, eventually. His ass is cooked.

Check the Vegas odds on impeachment

In progress peeps, some shit just blew up at an Arriana Grande concert in the UK, people were injured and killed. Not sure if if was organic, or a terrorist act, but the media is playing it real cool with the details ATM:

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/05/22/europe/manchester-arena-incident/index.html

There are fatalities following an incident at Manchester Arena in England on Monday, according to local police.

In a Facebook post, Greater Manchester Police released the following statement: "Emergency services are currently responding to reports of an explosion at Manchester Arena. There are a number of confirmed fatalities and others injured. Please AVOID the area as first responders work tirelessly at the scene. Details of a casualty bureau will follow as soon as available."

The warning to stay away from Manchester Arena came after reports of two loud explosions during an Ariana Grande concert Monday night.

Greater Manchester Police tweeted that emergency services were "responding to serious incident at Manchester Arena. Avoid the area. More details will follow as soon as available."
British Transport Police told CNN it was in the process of closing some transport in the area.

Video from near the scene showed a caravan of ambulances heading to the arena.

Minor things you say?

The fact even that impeachment is on the table, takes thus beyond the realm of mere minor. Nixon, Clinton, and now Trump. There have been 45 of these stodgy bastards, we are talking a select three that have taken the office to this level of scandal.

Government sponsored spying and a cover-up, fellatio in the Oval Office, or he distinct possibility that  a foreign government colluded with a presidential candidate to subvert an election. Which one is the most popcorn worthy to you?

You get an additional cookie as well. Whenever I hear God Emperor, I think of Dune, and I think of Trump floating with glowing eyes, and I die

For all the travel bans, for all the anti IS rhetoric, we make a fucking arms deal with the same regime we know for a fact is supporting them? Practical, non hilarious reasons aside (Trump obviously has interests in companies that contract with the military. War = more spending = more shareholder profits. I digress), I think Bannon and Trump made a bet to see how many list items they can get off before his approval rating hits zero. Im clearly in a simulation right now, this cant be real. From his cabinet picks, to his policy, its like he does the literal exact opposite of the thing he said earlier. An anti environment EPA head. An anti school education pick. A board of advisors that are all lobbyist is a great way to drain a swamp. And selling military hardware to the Saudis is apparently a winning strategy in the fight on terror. To be fair to both Mr Trump and Mr Obama, many might not be aware that Saudi Arabia took it upon itself to buy a very large stake in our bond markets, years ago. If we don't play nice, they have threatened to crash said market (this direct threat is the reason why the 9/11 commission backed way off of the civil prosecution of the Saudi gov for its role. Republicans were rightly outraged, it wasn't a proud moment for O.).

The right is kinda having trouble reporting on all this shit. The ultra conservatives aren't too keen on radical Islam, Trump kissing Saudi ass isn't sitting too well in conservative palates. The spin is to point out the differences in the interactions between O and T's interactions with SA. Ann Coulter even went as far as to call Trump an 'alpha male', pointing out his apparently warmer welcome by SA.

 

I have to make an aside. Please understand how hilarious comparisons of the vitality of Obama and Trump are. Trump is like, fucking ancient. He subsists off of Diet Coke, red meat, and ice cream. Obama was healthy to the point of comedy, those soccer mom special jeans he wore to that ball game should have been burned with fire, but provided a hilarious talking point.

Might be something to being a beta male we didn't sell 500b weapons to our aggressors, after they threatened to ruin our economy.

I'm a bit confused, seriously. Is the deep state other countries Intel agencies too? I might not understand the term correctly, my apologies if I've misapplied it. If the deep state is just our Intel agencies, then again I ask, to what benefit? That would benefit our allies.

Is there an Arabian Peninsula deep state, or like a global cabal?

Also, I don't think our deep state wants Assad out TBH. Assad is the most secular thing over there; he's the evil you know instead of the abomination you don't.

Yeah, Clintons. Well, they can be space aliens for all I care. Believe what you want about the Clintons moving on

Back to the Seth topic. This is what I meant. Start thinking; if a story is big on one site, but gets no validation from any other major news source, is it safe to believe?
http://money.cnn.com/2017/05/16/media/seth-rich-family-response-claims-of-wikileaks-contact/

Let me repost this, sec:

It took only hours for one of the biggest stories in conservative media this week, which some outlets had chosen to focus on over news that President Trump disclosed classified information to senior Russian officials, to fall apart.
..
On Monday night, Rod Wheeler, a private investigator and Fox News contributor, put things in motion during an interview with WTTG-TV, a Fox affiliate in Washington.
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No real evidence has been provided to support such claims and Washington's Metropolitan Police Department, which continues to investigate the murder, says there is evidence to suggest he may have been the victim of a botched robbery.
Nevertheless, a handful of right-wing media outlets have latched on to the theory -- and Wheeler's remarks on Monday allowed the narrative to once again ricochet throughout the conservative media universe.
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"NOT RUSSIA, BUT AN INSIDE JOB?" asked Breitbart, the far-right website previously led by White House chief strategist Steve Bannon, which said that "if proven, the report has the potential to be one of the biggest cover-ups in American political history, dispelling the widespread claim that the Russians were behind hacks on the DNC."
"DEAD DNC STAFFER 'HAD CONTACT' WITH WIKILEAKS," declared the headline of the Drudge Report, the highly-trafficked conservative news destination.
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Tuesday afternoon, Wheeler told CNN he had no evidence to suggest Rich had contacted Wikileaks before his death.
Wheeler instead said he only learned about the possible existence of such evidence through the reporter he spoke to for the FoxNews.com story. He explained that the comments he made to WTTG-TV were intended to simply preview Fox News' Tuesday story. The WTTG-TV news director did not respond to multiple requests for comment.
"I only got that [information] from the reporter at Fox News," Wheeler told CNN.
Asked about a quote attributed to him in the Fox News story in which he said his "investigation up to this point shows there was some degree of email exchange between Seth Rich and Wikileaks," Wheeler said he was referring to information that had already been reported in the media.
A Fox News spokesperson did not respond to a request for comment by the time of publication.

Your side is trying its damndest to misattribute the Russian thing, and the attempts make you want to look even harder at Russia, because of how flimsy the effort to distract/mislead is. If Russia didn't happen, let the investigation happen. Shouldn't be anything to find, right? He's stated many times his hands are clean. Shut the libtards up once and for all; why all the conjecture about what happened? The side that believes him guilty isn't even making assumptions on how it happened. Why are your news sources so obsessed with filling in a narrative no one asked for? Even better, why are they trying to paint a false narrative to deceive you? What do they gain by making you afraid of Hillary Clinton?

Because it's rhetorical, and you bit the whole fishing pole up to the reel.

I also don't see how gay cultural attitudes are supposed to just rub off on the kids. I like tits and ass, alot. Even if I had a Clockwork Orange style indoctrination experience, I don't think that would change. For the type of psychological conditioning necessary to change ones sexual orientation, the kids would have to be watching hardcore gay porn or some shit. Because even normalization of homosexuality shouldn't lead to indoctrinatiion.

Observe TV violence. If normalization of violence (decades ago, man, decades ago) predicted participation in violence, the kids would all be armed and dangerous. While normalization has correlated with increased childhood violence (personally, I think weapon availability and the current state of child socialization plays more of a factor), the kids aren't all running around doing ultra violent shit. So I don't expect the kids to start humping each other because homosexuality is being normalized. They do that fine with no additional help

Trump is the reason Islamic extremists get up in the morning and brush their teeth. When they spin tales of our 'decadence, excess and weak moral character', they are pointing directly at the stereotype of America that I think Trump embodies. The callous, hamburger eating, gun toting Murican. His anti Islam rhetoric gives IS wet dreams. Now instead of a president talking sideways about the IS threat, they have a guy saying that he thinks the entire religion is a threat. It's perfect. Where before they had an opinion in a vacuum, now that the whole world thinks that America is foolish, they have false consensus to gas light their radical views. Trump has made himself a convenient boogeyman for everything the rest of the world holds against us.


I bet they use Trump clips in IS training videos.

I think the most fair thing to do, since they are 'honoring' those cultures (with cartoon racial stereotypes) is to ask them if they think the symbols are flattering.* To save everyone some trouble, I doubt seriously people like having their race reduced to a burnt sienna midget with buck teeth and a feather. Especially when it's being used for a game, and on top of that, they don't get paid.

It's one thing to directly reference the correct name of a group if you would like to reference them. The Spartans, for example. It's another thing to take a deragotory term (call a NA a redskin and see how far you get) and use it to represent a group. Chiefs and Indians are fine. Redskins, is like having a team called 'The Yellow Fellas' or 'The Darkies'. It could be better, basically.

Also the mascots. Before they changed or dropped them, they were kinda fucking racist, but meh.

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*With that being said, apparently, 9/10 Native Americans surveyed in the one poll I just read, don't really give a fuck and don't find it offensive at all. That's one survey, and personally I think the sampling method may have been flawed, but to be fair, it did include Native Americans from a diverse set of backgrounds.

But Fox does manage to get 60 percent approval ratings for Trump in polls while others get sub 30s. And the survey said Hillary was supposed to win the election. In a nutshell, surveys suck

It's like, the most badass security detail in the literal world, with the most funding. This has never happened before, doubt it would now. Also, I feel like Trump might have an 'extra scoop' of Secret Service detail, I've read that the amount of threats they have to investigate due to his 'unorthodox methods' are 'unpresidented'. Seriously, if there was any President that would be assassinated abroad, it would be Trump. Knowing this, it will never be Trump.

What evidence suggests that chlorine gas was used? Chlorine gas causes distinct and identifiable resputory injuries that werrnt reported, this was most likely sarin. Given the difficulty of manufacturing sarin in the amounts required for state violence (it is difficult but possible for the small amounts needed for small terrorist attacks).

Also, when did IS get planes?

And last but not least, is Trump not Commander in Chief? He would have to sign off on this, even though he has given more individual brevity to military officials to acts as they will. If not Trump, what elected official should be held responsible for this, in your opinion?

And what motivation would the deep state have to attack Assad's regime? That is, how would the US benefit from this action, specifically deep state actors (which I assume are the letter Intel agencies, they don't have donors, and the war complex as well).

Not a friend of Assange at the moment, but those charges were bullshit from jump. His accusers didn't crop up until he gained notariety; I always find it odd when people wait to you are famous to accuse you of henious crimes. There is a shred of truth to it, because they were state actors in my opinion, they really, really, wanted Assange and would have buried him had they gotten hold of him. They picked ladies with enough contact that they could have built a case. But, he managed to dodge this part of it, respect. Not too many people get to hide in plain sight from the UK and US government's, it's actually very impressive.

This dropping the charges shit is fishy, however. Our hand is in this some way. Odd we just released.Ms. Manning, then a separate state drops its investigation, citing an inability to process. Bullshit. Statue probably hasn't ran out in rape yet, despite that this has been a very long time, and he is a political prisoner, the US would actually pay his weight in gold, for the ability to interrogate him and walk back down the leak network to the perpetrators. We have a habit of crucifying people that embarrass us, thus is the same.

Criptix gets it you get a cookie.

NK exists solely at the behest of these two powers. Russia thrives off destabilization, and relishes NK for the threat it poses. China likes the rare earths they produce, and also enjoys the way NK shapes our relations with SK, and ultimately weakens our strategic partnerships in Asia. NK is the convenient thorn in Uncle Sams's side, an annoyance that does just enough to distract because of the potential for catastrophe.

Masha, I haven't forgotten about you in the other thread, I will respond. To be fair, when I come, I will point out very recent evidence that discredits Wheelers testimony, by his own admission. I apologize for not responding in a more timely fashion, been caught up in the farm/news cycle.