Not at all, they'll understand completely how you have been conditioned to apply special pleading to your beliefs so they are not held up to the same standard of analysis as anything we actually need to define objective proof for in order to gather information and form knowledge and understanding. That you employ compartmentalisation to protect your beliefs and use confirmation bias to cherry-pick explanations of reality that suit you, rather than intellectual honesty and integrity.

This is not an insult, this is a fact of the process of theist 'belief'.

You want to make hand-wavy declarations concerning things you've 'experienced' which defy explanation, therefore God. When the truth is they don't defy explanation at all because if there was even one thing, just one, which could objectively demonstrate the existence of the Paranormal, it would be global news and science would accede to this new, now proven theory which required incorporation into our understanding of The Universe.

There is, however, a shedload of evidence and reasoning which explains why you and your ilk believe what you do and are prone to interpreting things the way you do.

So which is more likely, rational and objectively-reasoned explanations which are derived from multiple sources of study and critical analysis, or that you actually experienced something for which there is no other answer than, ". . .therefore God."?

In other news, I don't think it was ever explained away by the scryptards as to why scrypt.cc's deposit address, because they've confirmed their payout addresses are different, show a payment being made last year to seed a failed Polish-language ponzi.

scrypt.cc's deposit address:

That same address appears in 3wponzi:


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So you're ignoring the valid reasoning I gave against polygamy and simply referring to the opinion of an article?

Was the original question you asked not one simply of why we shouldn't object to polygamy? Because I explained why we do object to polygamy and how that is based on the inherent nature of a many-marrying-one relationship structure being unbalanced and therefore dysfunctional. As in vulnerable people who do not decide with truly informed consent in this matter need protecting from themselves being at risk from abuses which arise from unbalanced relationships.

Why keep repeating reference to an article which ignores the objective facts of the situation in order to promote their own agenda?

I believe the reasoning behind keeping polygamy illegal is less to do with cultural distaste and more to do with the fact that polygamous marriages are generally driven by dysfunctional responses to human relationship power balances.

We are not talking about a group marriage of equals, we are talking about multiple people marrying a single person. That is inherently an unbalanced relationship open to abuses and usually the result of those involved having psychological issues which compel them to seek out a relationship which cannot possibly be consistent with an equal balance of power.

That is a fascinating link, thanks. I'd mentioned this tactic was likely the reason for scrypt.cc to continue communicating with their marks but I was unaware it was a studied sociopsychological process.

Hahahaaaaahhaaahaaaahaaaaaaaaa.

No.Seriously.

Hahahaaaaaaaahaaaahaaaahhaaaaaa

Come at me, brah. As I believe the kids like to say these days.

Your indignation is quite endearing.

Theism by its very nature is psychologically toxic because you absolutely have to maintain a state of intellectual dishonesty in order to 'believe', to have your 'faith', which causes cognitive dissonance when the part of your brain which is capable of objective reasoning is exposed to information which serves to highlight the constant conflicts in what you believe and what is evidenced .

Just because you declare yourself be a "True Christian" (try looking up the No True Scotsman fallacy), who believes in only the 'good' stuff from your Holy Book, it doesn't change the fact that your Holy Book is riddle with contradictions and inaccuracies which you have to tread carefully through in order to ignore it lest it exposes your cherished beliefs to be the fallacies they are.

I don't need an invisible ominpotent sky-daddy to tell me not to murder people, I have no inclination to murder people and I tend to live by the basis of objective secular morality, that which values the autonomy of consent whereby I cannot reasonably expect my consent to be honoured if I do not value the informed consent of others.

Goodness me, much anger, many vitriol. Unfortunately, while you might be full of spite and hatred for me, you're still wrong and somewhat something of a moron to have completely ignored the correction I made about the difference between slander and libel.

Here, let me walk you through it, pay close attention now:

1. Slander refers to the spoken word
2. Libel refers to the written

Need me to guide you through it again? Still overwhelmed by the confusing amount of information I just gave you in those two points?

As for your definition of the law in this regards, are you a child perhaps? Might that explain your utter inability to check facts before you post loud and confident declarations which serve to prove you to be grossly and willfully ignorant on the subject you are discussing?

Google is your friend. Try looking up some actual facts and not relying on banging your fist on the table and shouting things you believe are true, when they are not. Libel, or slander for that matter, is nothing to do with saying something you can't prove. If you have every reason to believe what you are saying is correct then it is neither libel or, if you spoke the words, slander.

Don't believe me, go ask your nearest lawyer who will happily take $100 off you to explain the same thing.

Atheists haven't tried faith? I think you'll find most adult atheists were raised theists as children by their, equally conditioned to 'believe', theist parents.

Atheism isn't simply an arbitrary rejection, it is an intellectually honest position.

Most adult atheists today have got to that stage after having spent a considerable amount of their lives trying to make sense of the theist world-view and ultimately reaching the correct conclusion that theism, in that it requires intellectual dishonesty to be maintained, isn't actually knowledge of anything but is instead the process of giving yourself up to arbitrarily declared dogma derived from a time in our species when we weren't able to understand much of anything.

Shit, all you have to do is look at Scientology to see how, even today, people are often incapable of even the most basic reasoning skills and will latch on to truly outrageous and absurd claims being made by organisations and people who claim to have the answers to the questions of life for them.

That is because they have been raised to believe that someone, somewhere, has the answers they need. The truth is we all are perfectly capable of reaching the most intellectually honest conclusions about life, The Universe and Everything, without resorting to "therefore God . . ."

That what theists absolutely hate about atheism - because it doesn't say, "trust us, we're telling you the truth" like theism does, no, it actually says, "trust yourself, you can figure out the truth".

Theists are far more likely to get on with people of other faith because they're all part of the same game of playing-pretend *real* hard and us atheists are like the grown-ups who are spoiling their fun. Trouble is their 'fun' is deadly and toxic.

Citation please. If you're referring to the signature in my post, by all means, click on it and discover which cloud mining service I am recommending, you'll be AMAZED!!!!11!!1!!elebenty!!1!1!1


Citation please. The facts I have presented are hard facts derived from understanding both btc and Scrypt mining


Ah, you see what you've done there?

BTW, I don't recall 'screaming' scam and I certainly don't recall being proven wrong by scrypt.cc - would you care to offer up any citation in that regard?

Oops, forget which account you were logged in as, did you?

Says the low-post-count sock-puppet account which has only ever posted in this thread and uses the same, "go crying to mommy" attempt at insult as other low-post-count sock-puppet accounts.

I'm not sure what I'm more amused by, the repeated attempts at slagging me off from people who clearly don't have English as a first language, or the sheer venom and hatred they direct at those who post facts they dislike.

Thanks, I will.


I am at home. My mother, however, lives in another country and we don't have fire hydrants in the country I live in. I guess I'll just have to stay here telling you things you don't want to hear.


You're an idiot and it wouldn't be slander it would be libel. First, however, they'd need to prove that I was intentionally libeling scrypt.cc in order to benefit personally while fully aware that it was a legitimate operation.

I won't be losing any sleep over that ever happening.

Besides which, 850GH/s? It's not just me that has iron-clad facts, you and everybody else does too. As has been pointed out, you don't simply hide 850GH/s of Scrypt hashpower. There is nowhere for it to fit as the vast majority of Scrypt mining is done by known pools while a commercial entity claiming to hold that much Scrypt hashpower wouldn't use a pool.


Jesus fucking Christ, man, how can anyone be this dumb and still operate a computer? You can't wrap your head around the simple fact of a simple ponzi without desperately trying to twist your arguments into something which might somehow make it not a ponzi, yet you'll insist that people who are patiently explaining, with facts, how it is a provable scam and the operators are lying about their 850GH/s Scrypt mining, must be looking to gain by spreading rumour? How are objectively-provable facts 'rumour'?

Our motive is simple, we don't like to see people getting away with stealing large sums of money from naive cryptocurrency users, it damages the entire industry and makes for tabloid-friendly "ZOMG EVIL INTERNET MONEY HACK/FRAUD/DRUGS etc." headlines.

It's not like I'm having to do much here, just take a little time regularly to try and explain to people who keep wanting it to not be what it is where they are misunderstanding or misinformed.

I don't need to have an ulterior motive, I'm a decent fucking human being, isn't that enough?

Have you learned nothing from GAW/Hashlet/Paycoin and LTCGear?

There have to be lots of reason and excuses and promises and every other possible act which allows you to become more comfortable with the fact that you don't have access to your money until, eventually, you never have access to your money but have been strung along for so long you give up and walk away.

If they do eventually go ahead and open up again, it will be under a new structure which will probably involve something which ensures you can't withdraw everything you are owed but that you are bound to make even more munnies if you just stick with them while they sort it all out, right?

It is even possible that this whole thing is a double-bluff and there has been no hack at all so that your Lord God, Marcelo, can heroically 'repay' all the stolen btc to his customers and earn the respect, admiration and many many additional BTC's investment on top of what they have put in already because, you know, totally not a scam if he has repaid everybody from his own pocket, right?

All psychological moves by scam operators. Go do some homework on how GAW/Hashlet/XPY and LTCGear went down. It's all the same aim of manipulating people through greed.

Why would he go to all the trouble of creating this fictitious 'investment' scheme in order to pay 'investors' from income he's making, say, gun running, or drug dealing, when the simple truth is that he can do exactly what he has done which is to lie about having 850GH/s and get everybody all excited about it so they refer their friends and can conveniently have an 'auto invest' option to save them any effort on keeping whatever money they send in to remain in while those who absolutely have to cash out can be used as small examples of how he is so *totally* legit and not a scam?

All the while manipulating the trading environment of the fictitious 'KHS' so that newbies think they are actually buying and selling something of value, when it is just numbers on a screen.

It never actually becomes anything until you withdraw, but people are inclined to keep on sending it straight back in to the scheme so they can compound their 'profit'.

Do you get it yet?

Ponzi scams work so simply on human greed, there is no need for the operators of them to be earning actual profit from schemes on the side in order to cover the withdrawals, as hardly anyone actually keeps the money outside when they *know* they will make so much more by sending it back in along with all the other newbs being conned into joining the 'investment' scheme.

Dibs on the prog-rock-group name.

Nailed it.

You forgot the scare-quotes around the word 'investors', because they aren't actually investing in anything. The might believe they are, even in the face of objectively-provable mathematics, but they are not.

BTW, just a heads-up for everybody here, do you see the many posts which routinely go up during these situations, where it is repeated ad-nauseam phrases like, "It's just a gamble", "If you don't like it then gtfo" and my favourite, which is also the favourite of these scammer-gang as witnessed on their scammy cmmonitor.com website, "Don't invest more than you can afford to lose".

Because, children, people who invest more than they can afford to lose may be driven to track down the kind of people who tricked them into  handing over such a large some of money and seek to 'resolve' the situation personally. Take away everything a man has and he's nothing left to lose. They know this.

That is one of the reasons they like to repeat, over and over again, that you shouldn't invest 'too much', because you are more likely to simply walk away and do nothing when they initiate their 'exit plan' with the usual "We wuz haxxored!!!11!!1, but we're *totally* gonna fix it peeps" lie.

Ooh, snappy comeback, you sure showed me.

Neither do you or anyone else sending money to these criminals.