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2481  Economy / Economics / Re: The economics of Putin's war and the switchblade on: March 21, 2022, 11:16:37 PM
Some russian tanks have an active protection system which is designed to shoot down and intercept incoming RPG's and missiles. I wonder if they would be effective against drones?

It seems both russia and ukraine are claiming success with drone based attacks. I wonder how vulnerable radio controlled drones would be to blanket jamming. Is it possible to disrupt the radio signal between the controller and the drone, so that it crashes? There was a case some years ago, where an american drone was electronically hijacked by iran and stolen.

Drones as small as the ones ukraine uses, would be vulnerable to small arms fire.

S-400s would definitely be a prime target.

Try to hit a relatively silent target of 1 meter in diameter diving at 100 km/h towards you with small arms. I give you 10 tries, that is 9 more than real life, even at daytime.

As for the jamming, the details are not fully know, all I know is that the operator sets a target that may later change or skip completely. Jamming may be difficult, else drones would stand little chance. The active armour is something to consider yes, but modern antitank seem to have dual heads, like the javelin. Seem to do perfectly well.

We will see. War now is twitted more than an influencer's ass lately.

2482  Economy / Economics / The economics of Putin's war and the switchblade on: March 21, 2022, 10:14:16 PM
The latest shipment of weapons from US to Ukraine includes a significant number of "switchblade" drones (technically "munitions" as they are single use).

This is how they look:


As you can see, they look like a crap taken from a "Five below" shop, uh? And that is not that far from the truth to be honest. This costs around 6000 USD and comes in two flavours - tank destroyer and ant-personnel. It works like this - your average Joe McSoldier carries a tube that is not too heavy and requires 10 minutes to get ready. This happens well away the front line and well away the usual artillery range. You do not need an exceptional IQ to use this.



The drone is launched and can roam around for 40 mins or so and cover a few tens of miles. It carries sensors and the like and, once the operator decides there is an interesting target, it fixes on it and "kamikazes" onto it - be a tank, other vehicles or a platoon having tea.

Total cost of the operation:
Drone: 6000 USD
Infantry grunt: 30 USD per one hour of work.

Total loss for the enemy:
If hits a T-90: 2 million USDv + trained crew of 3
If hits a T-72: 0.6 million USD + trained crew of 5
If hits other stuff: 100 to 500k USD.

The big bingo is when you hit a S-400 anti-air system. We are talking millions USD.

Let's say the enemy shot's it down with a SAM:
Cost of a stinger or similar: 40k
If you are stupid and use a S-400: 10M USD

I am sure that most people in the forum understand that this is a game changer. Had Ukraine had 100 of these when the 40 mile long column was a sitting duck on the road to Kyiv, the war would have been quite different.

Remember, if you are a Russian soldier, you do not have to die for Putin. Sell your vehicle or aircraft to me or other honest buyers and see your family again some day or go west and relax all cool.
2483  Other / Politics & Society / Rumours on Anonymous about to leak a ton of Putin's dirty secrets on: March 21, 2022, 09:42:39 PM
There is a rumour running around that anonymous is about to leak a massive dump of information that would seriously damage Putin's war effort. This also comes along an apparent "mistake" from a Putin's controlled media outlet stating the losses of Putin's army at more than 9.000 dead and more than 16000 injured. This is unconfirmed, but likely true.

https://www.unilad.co.uk/news/russian-state-media-briefly-publishes-death-toll-numbers-20220321

On Anonymous, they tend to attack organisations and individuals that abuse power or threaten innocents systemically. In the Ukraine war, the group seems clearly inclined to target Putin's Russia and now has declared the intention of attacking companies that do not pull-out of Putin's Russia.

https://www.hstoday.us/featured/anonymous-hackers-fire-warning-shot-at-companies-refusing-to-pull-out-of-russia/

Older news...
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-60784526

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Of all the cyber-attacks carried out since the Ukraine conflict started, an Anonymous hack on Russian TV networks stands out.

The hack was captured in a short video clip which shows normal programming interrupted with images of bombs exploding in Ukraine and soldiers talking about the horrors of the conflict.

2484  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Use of Coporal Punishment over a Child on: March 21, 2022, 09:25:05 PM
 It is something reserved for situations in which there are safety concerns if the young person does not control him/herself, otherwise, no need at all.
2485  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: March 21, 2022, 09:16:42 PM
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That is why they have the own countries, they don't want Putin, they want away from Ukraine govenment terror.
Fast majority of Ukraine history Donesk region has not been part of Ukraine anyway.
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We have already discussed this over and over. If you go back in time, it was actually Kyiv where Russia (the Russ of Kyiv) was born. But that is just history, and it is for the people who actually live there to choose their destiny, and as I said, Putin has failed to demonstrate any value or attractiveness to the old Soviet Republics - not that he has tried much - and now has to resort to aggression.

As Putin lives in a world of Cold War, you live in a world in which there is an inherent "god given right to rule" a territory, regardless of what the people living there think, want or decide. From the XX century you have made a great personal philosophical progress into the medieval ages, serfdom and the Romanovs.


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Perhaps a poor use of words, i meant fun in terms of intellectually challenging to predict. Don't get fooled, just because soft power comes without tanks doesn't mean that it cannot be more devastating in terms of human suffering than tanks. ...

On that, I can agree. Soft and hard power have devastated Latin America and large parts of Africa. Perhaps the difference is that you can try to escape soft power and go somewhere else - a privilege not granted to Mariupol civils.


EDITED: I added a post in the economy section, as it seems appropriate, but just a short comment here. If you do not know what this is, probably you should.



On Mariupol... it seems that Putin could enter the city. The obvious problem is that there is no longer a city in there, he has conquered a flat plain full of rubble, dead and hungry people. He has simply flattened it and that only leaves ill will and hate. I guess that is not an immediate problem for Putin, yet controlling a territory that is hostile is a costly effort, so this "victory" may become his new Afghanistan, but hey, feel free to consider it a victory if it happens.
The occupation of Ukraine is not the purpose of the special operation. Ukraine will lose its army and ultra-right nationalists, just as it has already lost Crimea, Donbass and Lugansk. And then she will begin to build a new peaceful life, while maintaining neutrality and loyalty to Russia. Because the blood ties between our peoples are stronger than the current ideological differences.

Sure, your brother gonna luv ya boy. They are going to be soooo neutral and sooo peaceful they'r gunna throw flowers at Putin's soldiers for decades. Whatever yu'rsmouking I wanna.



I am not even going to bother answering your shitty propaganda.
2486  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: March 21, 2022, 11:11:16 AM
There is plenty of history on the formation of any estate, and Ukraine is no different. In modern times, it is the people that live in a region or country that have the right to decide their future and their organisation.
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Exactly and the people of Donetsk People's Republic and Luhansk People's Republic have decided they want have anything to do with Ukraine.
You nailed it.

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That is quite far from the truth I am afraid. Putin has been supporting a certain group but the local support is nil. Who would like to live under Putin's despotic and inhuman rule?

On Mariupol... it seems that Putin could enter the city. The obvious problem is that there is no longer a city in there, he has conquered a flat plain full of rubble, dead and hungry people. He has simply flattened it and that only leaves ill will and hate. I guess that is not an immediate problem for Putin, yet controlling a territory that is hostile is a costly effort, so this "victory" may become his new Afghanistan, but hey, feel free to consider it a victory if it happens.

Again, your trolling and citing of propaganda simply sucks. Your reputation in the forum is being permanently damaged, but hey, call it a victory for you if you want.

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Now we come to the fun part, what happens next. The way i see it is either west manages to collapse Russia with soft power for the second time (but now has to deal with China next), or diplomats totally miscalculated and fucked up big time, giving cookies to Ukraine just went too far too fast, it cornered Russia, so west looses all leverage over Russia, Europe looses a trade partner and once again gets a totalitarian regime next door with it's gloves off. On top of that it'll have no option but to align itself with another totalitarian regime, China. That has potential for a change in a world order, that's why now everyone is watching China

There is no fun part in all this. Europe will not "align" with China much more that already was. This war has shown how totalitarian regimes need to always be considered a risk.

What is clear is that Europe may actually create a real army of its own. The problem with armies, particularly if large, is that they tend to justify their cost creating wars.
2487  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: March 20, 2022, 10:55:56 PM
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War is a team sport.

From what we have seen so far, it looks like Putin is making all military decisions by himself.

Not quite. This is more or less publicly known but there is a select "club" of people in Russia called the "Lake Club" ("Ozero"), named after a fancy area in which an entourage of Putin built their "dachas". An entourage built on friends from St Petesburg and from his years in the KGB. A notable one is Yury Kovalchuk, possibly the second most powerful man in Putin's Russia. He along with Putin and his closed circle planned the aggression to Ukraine.

I guess what I want to say is that this war is "a team effort", the problem is that is a dysfunctional team that lacks a counterbalance in opinions and generates only the same old cold-war mafia-style ideas.
2488  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What are the US' true intentions for themselves and Ukraine? on: March 20, 2022, 07:14:02 PM
Has it ever occurred to you (or any other putinists here) that some - well, most, with rare exceptions being totalitarian shitholes like Belarus - countries/nations/people do not want to join the new Russian/Soviet empire. And would fit against it regardless of what the US or NATO does or doesn't do.

Rhetorical question, don't bother.

Effectively, that is the only reason for the war. Putin does not give a s***t about history or "corruption" (really? Putin against corruption? you have to be desperate trying to sell that) or "nazism" (really? Putin being a supremacist himself??)  nor the people's wishes. He only cares about power and money and has shown absolute disrespect for other humans in general to the point of sociopathy.

He has failed to hold a grip on former USSR territories mostly because he is a ruthless despot that, at most, looks at Russian people to avoid being kicked out and is willing to kill en-masse or one by one by assasination anyone that expresses a different view. Who the **** wants to be ruled by a despot that is not even from your own country?

On regards to US intentions, I think they were clearly accepting Ukraine as a commercial and strategic partner and using economy, diplomacy and seduction to bring them over the west view of the world (certainly NOT to NATO). I do not have an idyllic view of Ukraine, but it was making progress to becoming a country that eventually could lead their own destiny for the better.

History has taught over and over that wars in Europe are lost for all European countries and won by the US and, on this case China who will emerge stronger from others fight.

2489  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: March 20, 2022, 07:01:08 PM
There is plenty of history on the formation of any estate, and Ukraine is no different. In modern times, it is the people that live in a region or country that have the right to decide their future and their organisation. It is just silly pretending that you have to go back decades or even centuries and then wage a war on those grounds and certainly Putin does not give a ****k about that.

This war is only about Putin loosing their geostrategic grip and exclusive access on a large part of the former USSR republics, including some of the most strategic and financially critical regions such as the Black Sea and Azov Sea. All the rest is the trolls trying to make noise and trying to blame the war on things that are absolutely irrelevant to Putin and his entourage.

The sad truth is that Putin has failed to seduce, use diplomacy or economically influence those territories and he is using the last resource of the incompetent: war.



And as for how to stop the guy

2490  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Could cracks be appearing on Putin's controlled state media on: March 20, 2022, 01:06:02 AM
I just saw the latest video of Putin showing himself on a music concert. If it weren't in a middle of a war it would just be ridiculous. The guy goes to an event and tries to make it look like people supporting him just to show the middle finger to the West or try to appear strong.

One of the funniest things is that the images of two young ladies teens apparently "in trance" were taken from images from last year event! That is simply so stupid! The KGB would not be proud of you VP!

An another event to add to the tragic comedy of last days: These are the Russian astronauts in the ISS. These guys got real balls!

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/cosmonauts-arrive-at-iss-in-colours-of-ukraine-flag-6rwcltmjt



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In an extraordinary move, the three new arrivals emerged from their Soyuz capsule after docking with the space station wearing bright yellow jumpsuits with blue stripes, instead of the standard-issue blue uniform.
2491  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Like Vladimir Putin, is George Bush also a War Criminal? on: March 20, 2022, 12:54:53 AM
Yes, both Putin and Bush of the are war criminals as per the international law. That is part of the problem: the US has lost pretty much any (theoretical) moral superiority a long time ago, particularly with the war in Irak and the creation of Guantanamo and the flights of prisoners to countries that do not abide by rights.

To the list of Bush and Blair, I would add president Aznar (Spain) who also supported the war and lied to the Spanish saying there were weapons of mass destruction in Irak. I know, nobody cares about this guy, nevertheless he is a criminal.

There are many cases in which the US violates Human Rights, perhaps starting with the prison and judiciary system.

Yet, for me, there is always a difference between a democracy (even the US democracy which is far too influenced by the plutocrats) and an despot. A democracy has always ways to evolve and heal itself, despots don't.
2492  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: March 20, 2022, 12:39:28 AM
Is this a country where people can be themselves and have the right to freedom of speech?

...see Trump's latest podcast with Joe Rogan... if you can find it, since it and its reuploads getting removed in a few hours after they get uploaded.
Luckily commy youtube isn't the only game in town:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/WdzbBWQbKhzd/

Freedom of speech like this?

The west banned their own president from every social media there is.

Seized the Russian properties regardless of whom the owner is supporting (seriously why haven't the UK questioned the source of Abramovitz's wealth before?), kicking people out of colleges, not letting Russian people into the restaurants (wtf?)

I haven't been to Russia so I can't say anything about the country but the west's mask has slipped, they are also not what they claim to be.

edit: Also see the Canadian truckers and what happened to them and their bank accounts. Freedom of speech my ass.

FAKE: Russian properties have not been seized indiscriminately. There is a specific list of people.

The UK has been very lax on questioning where the investments came from. However that also has a limit which is when that wealth threatens the UK itself.

FAKE: Trump has not been banned from most media. He has been banned from some media, privately owned, for breaching the terms of use. Tbh for breaching them over and over, including stating facts that were not true - not opinions which are free, but simply fake facts.


On freedom of speech is not allowed when calling for acts that disrupt democracy, such as trying to intimidate politicians into acting in a certain way. Trump was banned from Twitter, a private company, after using it as a platform to call for a disruption to the system that actually grants that freedom (among many other things), thus contravening the terms of use.

He is still free to speak, and he certainly does, from many platforms and has a whole party held hostage, in my view, because no-one dares to stop the bully.

By most of the interviews I've heard, civilians are reporting that the Russians have been fairly helpful in trying to allow them to leave the combat zones when they can.  This makes logical sense, and most of the actual evidence that I can see backs that up.

Not true. Putin's army has in many cases shelled civilians trying to flee. There are testimonies and abundant proof, but worry not because the thing about waging a war of aggression against a country that has internet and phones is that there are so many documents and proofs registered that there is no way of re-writing history and it will be reported, studied and publicly exposed to the last criminal act.



2493  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: March 19, 2022, 09:36:04 PM
Some talk points that, for those who understand that Putin would not move a finger to protect anyone from "nazis", may actually be worth being discussed:

- There are indications that the railways in Belorussia have been sabotaged, and it seems to be internal. This may cause severe delays in the supplies to Putin's army surrounding Kiev. It could get to the point of his army not being able to defend themselves. This has not been confirmed yet by the major news outlets.
https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-ato/3434519-kamyshyn-rail-services-between-ukraine-and-belarus-suspended.html


 
2494  Other / Politics & Society / Re: UN condeming Genocide in Ukraine Could we See the rise of a Second UN on: March 18, 2022, 10:37:13 PM
,,,

ofc. in a war in which both ultraleft satanic childless elites accuse each other over being the nazi, hitler, and stalin.


You are forgetting that they are also masons, drink the blood of newborns, are behind the COVID and also behind the assassination of Kennedy, the killing of Johannes of Arc, Gandhi's shooting and ... well just DYR and bring in something creative next time.
2495  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: March 18, 2022, 09:58:49 PM
There are some indications that the UN security council is seriously considering removing Putin's Russia for the permanent membership. The fact that he is using the nuclear deterrent as a cover for an aggression on a non-nuclear power and has gone as far as "putting the nuclear forces on alert" (mostly for show, as they were not taking the day off anyway) and all the rhetoric about "serious consequences" on interventions is on the verge of getting him kick-off the most influential international forum.
2496  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Chess online? on: March 18, 2022, 06:47:51 PM
I am afraid most of the sites are free. The best known one is Liiches, you can play over the phone and there are many variants and includes exercises and training as well as advanced analysis, "learn from your mistakes" and pretty much everything you need to play and learn, even to an advanced level including a library of openings.

On the betting side with crypto, I think that chess is sport that does not match well with betting. Players that are good consistently get good results and it makes it difficult to make it interesting. On top of that you have very advanced algos that would beat nearly 90% of players.
2497  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 on: March 17, 2022, 10:37:23 AM
I also believe that Real Madrid are better than Barcelona still even though Barcelona have improved themselves a lot compared to the first times of the season. This improvement should help them resist Real Madrid a lot. But Real Madrid are in such a great condition that they have a big chance for the league title. As they are very focused on it now, I think that they will succeed in winning this match. Barcelona will score too I think so my score predictions for this are 2-1 and 3-2.
It's true that Real Madrid are still better above Barcelona, and it's possible that they will win the match in the El Clasico duel later. But I also believe that Barcelona come with high motivation, because they haven't tasted victory for a long time when they meet their rivals. My prediction is that the match will be tight and at the end of the match Real Madrid will win.
Both teams are in good form and both have strong mentality when competing, but the El Clasico which will be held next week looks like Real Madrid has the advantage in this match because they are playing at home, but Barcelona players will of course also work extra and try to put as much pressure on the opponent as possible, so it will be very difficult to predict who will come out victorious and there is a possibility that they will play with a draw until the game ends.

I think that on this one chances are not of that range at all. Even if El Clasico always gives plenty of room for speculation, Barca is just not suited to present a serious challenge to Real Madrid and I would not place a bet on odds 2-1 or 3-2. I would start considering a bet on a 4-1 for Madrid, with a moderate wage and, for Barca, I could bet on a 3-1. The range makes little sense now.
2498  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What will be the next big industry move? on: March 17, 2022, 10:33:36 AM
Most of the trend today is relayed on the world of NFT so there's an instance or chance might be they will adopt this kind of a trend right now afaik there's a thread too related to the Gambling and metaverse and also the virtual reality due to pandemic many people now are would like to entertain with this trends its the new meta of the gambling industry well looking forward on it lets see.
The pandemic has given the idea to everyone about the metaverse. And now that it has become a trend, everybody is thinking that it can be applied to almost all things that we do in our lives which includes gambling. Well, it's really possible but to see that it happen is what we have to be patient of. In the moment that we're discussing, we have no idea on what particular crypto casino is going to have this feature to attract more customers get into them just because they have their casino in the version of metaverse.

I personally love the way things are right now and a change to Metaverse which everyone here is talking about and since everyone it is talking about some crypto casinos can take it seriously and make it reality.I am a traditional gambler which just plays sport betting and slot machines most of the time with some fewer times roulette and blackjack.I am very very happy with the huge variety of the slot machines by different providers and even if Metaverse becomes a reality in crypto casinos I will still keep playing the traditional games.I don't like such dramatic changes in most of other industries as well,change is good but not always,why change something that has proved that it works great for something which you don't know how it will go ?
The metaverse is, of course, wonderful and interesting.  

But there is one, as yet unresolved question.  The fact is that there are already more than 100 or even more than 200 projects of metauniverses. But we live in the same real Universe.  If this set of MetaUniverses does not unite into one large Metaverse, then they will be some kind of fragmented garbage for a narrow circle of users.  
And accordingly, the casino in each of them will be just bullshit incomparable with the usual existing physical or even virtual casino from our universe. Smiley

In my opinion, very large financial investments are needed to create a full-fledged Metaverse. 

We need powerful servers, 6g communication towers, virtual reality devices, programmers, designers, etc. 

Government support is also needed.  Only a large IT company can make such investments.  I'm talking about companies like Facebook, Google, Microsoft, Xiaomi, etc. 

Therefore, there will not be very many Metaverses.  There will be 5 - 6 - no more.

Virtual reality devices need to be much more common and made much more affordable. The popularity it should have by now just has not happened. As far as investors go, I believe that a sufficient enough investment into that area could be made if it were adopted more by the people, instead of hoping for big investors pouring money into it. In fact, if Mark Zuckerberg can't make the cut by pouring his money into Metaverse, then what chance do other investors have?

I don't see the need for 6g when we can barely get everyone onboard with 5g....

I agree, it seems that 5G is just too many G's to lift of and reach escape velocity, to put it in a funny way. There is also a concern for safety related to the slow implementation of the technology since the speed of data transmission makes it more difficult to control. On regards to gaming, I do not see how the internet of things may give business opportunities to gambling, but I am eager to see how the industry uses it.
2499  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Blame Game in gambling on: March 17, 2022, 10:23:49 AM
When I was 16 my mom and dad was already clueless with most of my activities outside the house, even inside to a certain extent. So it is difficult for them to know whether I am beginning to get hooked on to gambling, porn, solvent, weed, guns, meth, etc. So I think there is also the part in which government agencies should be functioning to their full capacity so that these things could be avoided. I can understand how frustrated the parents of the victim here. Their son is dead.

I think if parents are clueless on everything technical, they should get someone (a friend or family member) to help them with that, so it should not be used as an excuse. Also, if a child are allowed to sit behind a closed door ..and participate in illegal activities, then the parent are not doing their job.

I say.... have a open door policy.. when your child are not naked or in need of privacy. They should not be behind closed... because that gives them the opportunity to participate in illegal activities that might harm them.

In our family ...we keep the doors to our rooms open and only close it when we need some privacy. We also spend time together most of the time ... so we do not get time to hide secret activities.  Wink
When the child is still young and spends a lot of time at home, this measure with open doors and the absence of secret activities is certainly effective. 
But what happens when your child grows up and begins to communicate more with his friends.  His friends and acquaintances, especially those who are older, can also teach him how to play online casinos.  Here, you can't stop it. 
Especially if he began to spend a lot of time outside your home. 
And it is during such periods that children can become addicted to gambling.  And here you can’t even come up with such effective ways as “open doors”

I think it is actually easier that children get in contact with gaming and betting in the off-line AKA real world than on-line. They will wager with friends at sports or even play occasionally if they manage to enter a site with fake ID or the like. The exception is actually the gaming industry in which sometimes games may introduce forms of betting or staking that may lead youngsters into the activity unadvertedly.
2500  Economy / Gambling / Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms on: March 17, 2022, 10:16:17 AM
If I say here I am not saying to boycott the Bolobo Russia platform because there is no connection between the war and the actual platform site.  Doesn't look like one with this I think it needs to be distinguished between the Chuar platform site and the battle and when mixing like the battle platform here
you always have your rights which site to play with and which to Boycott , what i wanna know is why supporting those sites? are you regular players of those casinos? if you are going to play with those then you must believe that supporting the listed  site would let the Russian government collect some funds to support their War against Ukraine.
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I'm always against war, but I do not think it is a right thing to do to "boycott" every Russian casino. I mean, there are possibly Russian online gambling site that operates really well and innocent (no scams, etc.) which gives good service to their customer. I do not think that they should also be directly affected by this war that started by their president Putin. However, I think it is true that the Russian government collects tax from these licensed casinos, in which can be used to fund their invasion.
Everyone has their own way of choosing which gambling site they will use to gamble. After all, people are now smarter in choosing the gambling site so maybe we don't need to boycott the gambling sites in question, but we can just play on the sites that we have played and play with the choice of gambling sites you like.

Yes, Putin can levy taxes from these licensed casinos, especially since we know that Putin has the power to do that. So let the people choose what they want and rest assured, the war will stop soon.

In fact Putin has made many companies that were having earning in foreign currency buy rubles forcibly or else. This means that if you play with bitcoin or with USD or with EUR in any Russian owned casino or even if you spend your money in any Russian owned company of any short your money will be going to finance Putin's economy of war and kill people.
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