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2521  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will bitcoin rise or fall? CONFUSED on: July 19, 2017, 07:30:52 PM
today i sold my bitcoins because the bitcoin is droping day by day,, dont know when it will rise again, i want to know what is the good time to buy bitcoin??
You have done a wrong thing ever in your life. You must thinking why I have done wrong just because you sold your bitcoin in very bad times. As you don't know what is going to be happen why it is going day by day. Just because role of Segwit2x. Because in bitcoin there was a slow transaction. So therefore bitcoin is implementing bitcoin for high speed transaction therefore it is going down. After all this the price will twice above $2500 USD per bitcoin.
2522  Economy / Speculation / Re: Price of bitcoin before 1st August 2017 on: July 19, 2017, 07:13:35 PM
With the price decrease in bitcoins as on June and July, do you think the price of bitcoin will fall below $ 1000 before 1st August 2017?
Below a thousand dollars will not be possible before 1st August because demand is still there as can be seen by the fast bitcoin price recovery and others users are just uncertain with what to do with bitcoin whether to buy, sell or hold...IMO price is stable and anything below this price range $1500-$1800 will automatically invite panic buyers to play

I was waiting for that price drop and honestly not sure if I should be buying now or after the segwit adoption, I can only hope for a dump before the august and the price to go down a little again.
Dump may not happen after August 1. Bitcoin is trusted currency all around the world. As you know the prices goes up once again. It is kind of market in which these issues happen. Try to collect more bitcoin and get an advantage of it. Because it is only the last time that bitcoin is once again giving opportunity to people to buy below $2500 levels.

I guess before august 1 price may reach above $3000 also. Because the threat on chain split is fading away slowly now. We can expect bitcoin will be staying stronger in coming weeks.
2523  Economy / Economics / Re: Vast Majority of European Citizens Doesn’t Want Cash Transaction Limits on: July 19, 2017, 04:57:04 PM
If they are banning the cash transactions, then they should make digital payments completely free. But that is not the case. They are charging very heavy fees on these online transactions, and on top of that they are taxing these transactions.
I have the same opinion and I believe that cash transactions will never be banned. They are the great ways to earn for government. No government would like people to make all transactions online. The banks will in complete loss then. I really feel the same about online transaction fees and taxes. For online transactions, bitcoins are the best options since there’s no tax on them for they are decentralized.
2524  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin reduces unemployment on: July 19, 2017, 04:05:23 PM
In the short term, everything happens as you say, but if you consider this question, in the long term it turns out that those who earn bitcoins online do not produce wealth, and so increase the inflationary processes in the country and there are new unemployed.
It could reduce employment because it can create more jobs as because of bitcoin it will help improve a country's economy.
However, it always depend on a certain ruling in your country because if they are against bitcoin then simply it cannot help solve the unemployment problem. Although bitcoin is just a payment system but its system is very unique and powerful as it can connect border to border to make transactions possible.
Undoubtedly, bitcoins are payment system but not ordinary one. They are not just for typical transaction systems. They are trading system where you can invest less and earn beyond imaginations. As far as the relationship between bitcoins and unemployment is concerned, I believe bitcoins have the potential to open new avenues of digital employment. It will in near future facilitate people with easy computer jobs than laborious physical jobs.
2525  Economy / Speculation / Re: WHEN will BTC rise again and WHY? on: July 19, 2017, 02:03:08 PM
I am generally opposed to blaming someone. Crypto currency provides freedom of choice for everyone. Even if the price falls I regard this as a good way to make money. Love can not be. If the person is not ready to invest in bitcoin now, he'll do it later but at a higher price.
That’s a nice thing, though. Crypto currency provides equal opportunity to all investors to play their best in the crypto market. The rise and fall should not be considered as disadvantage of bitcoins, rather I think it is the essence of trading with bitcoins. The true traders and investors do not believe in giving up on their coins when prices are touching ground. Generally, making profit with bitcoin trading is considered a gradual process.
2526  Economy / Economics / Re: Is bitcoin now the strongest currency in the world? on: July 19, 2017, 01:27:08 PM
After the events of last week.

I was making this suggestion to some folks yesterday, but they claimed that bitcoin is too small.  Does it matter?
I knew bitcoin was very trending in the internet and popular too in the entire world, but it's not enough to say it is the strongest currency all over the world. It is still US dollar is the strongest currency nowadays.
There is a certain place where bitcoin is the strongest currency and that is only in the crypto currency while in the real world it is the legal currency regulated by the government are the most powerful. I hope everyone would understand that because it's hard for an investor to be misinformed when he is risking his money for bitoin as its investment.

I would say that is party correct. Crypto is strong in crypto and currency is strong in currency. Why the difference like that? Cryptocurrencies are not considered legal tender or currency or fiat. Why is that? Because legal tender or currency requires government/state regulations which is absent in most cryptocurrencies. Crypto are mostly decentralized which means it is not backed up by any valuable metals or a state.
I don’t agree with you, pal. Crypto currencies are currencies indeed. Currency is simply a mean through which we can do trade and exchange goods, buy and sell things etc. currency could be anything that is accepted by majority and have some official standards. It could be a gold, silver, and bronze and so on.

It would be really cruel not to consider bitcoins the leading currency of the world. It has support of masses and soon will become the largest and strongest currency of the world.
2527  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Can you suggest a better way?? on: July 19, 2017, 12:55:27 PM
The market is falling is it the affect of the upcoming segwit? Or just a normal move in the market in which is the up and down of the price?? Is it ok to hold bitcoins in the exchanger? Can you help me???
The market does not act alone it's the attitude of the people even the population here makes up the market and what they feel equally reflect in the market whether segwit or not but now its segwit and the effect is expected to hold still until market participants feel otherwise.
Exactly, the price on market really control by mentality of trader, some factors by whales created will helps this happens happening strong and fast. So, keep your calm always best rules need remember anytime
I agree with you. You have given genuine reasons for rise and fall of bitcoin values. Crypto market fluctuations are ultimately controlled by investors. The mindsets of traders do play an important role in deciding the value of bitcoins.

In addition, big whales do play their role in unpredictable fluctuations of the market. It’s quite simple that if whales are selling off bitcoins at low prices, values will go down automatically and vice versa. 
2528  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: You lose only if you sell on: July 19, 2017, 12:12:30 PM
just sold now. should I buy them back ?
Yep! You should buy them back as soon as possible. It’s a good time to grab them again otherwise soon prices will pump again and you will feel miserable then. It would be tough to buy bitcoins after August 1st because Segwit has passed then, leaving prices of bitcoins too high. In fact, I assume that prices will be higher than ever and those will enjoy huge profit who will buy bitcoins before the end of July.
2529  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Where to learn how to trade on: July 19, 2017, 11:02:13 AM
If you want to trade altcoins you can start searching on youtube there are many videos tutorials there. And joined a group that they do trading like telegram. Much better to search on your own so that you can learn more about trading.
I appreciate you sincere piece of advice and agree with you. The best way to learn trading is to learn from your own experiences especially mistakes.

The deep analysis of wrong decisions gives you very good knowledge about bitcoin trading.

In addition to this, YouTube is playing a significant role in teaching bitcoin trading to masses. For beginners, YouTube tutorials are really helpful to play well in crypto market. I will suggest you to try demo accounts as well. Good luck! 
2530  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will bitcoin dip below 2000 again before Aug 1? on: July 19, 2017, 10:41:41 AM
IMHO, yes bitcoin price will go down sub $2000 as we go near that date. The uncertainly is going to be real that a lot of people would rather sell off their bitcoin before Aug 1 and not worry and will go back again once everything looks fine. But I don't want to speculate how low the price could be. I just believe that it will go down. Although I'm not sure as well when the price dip will be a perfect time to buy again because of the low price. Let's just wait and see how everything will pan out.
But, if you refer coin.dance the softfork consensus is having solid 88% support from miners which means there will be no more panic about chain split to happen and scalability issue will be solved in a manner we all preferring. In this case there will be no more chances for prices to fall down below $2000 anymore.

I am expecting prices to touch $2950 once again but well in advance august 1. We can expect another downfall from $2900+ but I am sure that will not break $2000 levels.
2531  Economy / Speculation / Re: HODL on: July 19, 2017, 06:15:20 AM
Whatever happens, just HODL.
That's exactly what I am doing right now. I haven't done anything else since I started with buying my sub $300 coins back in 2015.

I have good fun reading through various threads how people are going nuts. It's like people have never experienced something like this, it's mind boggling.

At the time the price shoots up from $1000 earlier this year, to a peak of almost $3000, people are ok. If the price starts correcting itself, people act like the end is near.
I am glad to know that I have mates just like me.
I have belief in the bitcoin and I think noting bad will happen to the bitcoin. Though the price is coming down every day but I think this is due to the panic sellers. Whatever happens to the price but it will rise again and will reach above $3000. People will again start buying the bitcoin because once you had the fun with bitcoin you can’t stop yourself to have that again.
2532  Economy / Speculation / Re: it seems panic is stop. time to invest everything. on: July 19, 2017, 05:32:26 AM
it seems panic is stop. time to invest everything.

Graph is keep increase.
I will withdraw 3000$ and buy now. I do not think it will fall again even if 1 August.

anyone else think like me or not?
The technical indicators are denoting the possible target for current rarely will be around $2800 after that we can expect another round of downfall to $2300 before august 1. But it is purely based on how the consenus on fork will be moving.

There are a lot of expectation for no chain split will be occurring. If it is happening in real then we can see prices will be breaking $3000 levels. Still again around $3100 to $3300, we can see another round of massive selling from Whales for profit booking.
2533  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: From faucet to thousands on: July 18, 2017, 07:47:15 PM
I usually turn Bitvest's faucet to 250k or 300k tokens by just using 1000x multiplier ( which many people do ) and then I try to gamble using them to reach a million tokens which gives 10% in BTC . I have succeeded in this like around 10 times Smiley Its possible but it takes hell lot of patience.

As for me, I didn't have the luck to turn faucet to a really good number and used it as base bankroll. I guess I don't have the patience and just really go out and bet big that's why it is always not possible for me. Again for me its not possible for the simple reason that I haven't succeeded it doing it.  Smiley But if you says that you have done it more than 10 times, then I would say it depends on the player itself.
but yes 10 times repeatedly still could considered he has a super lucky.

i will believe it as a possible and worth when he doing it for 3 years steady , which i doubt anybody could stay survive . doesn't matter actually if it was possible or not , the important thing are about is it worth to do it continuously in the long run?

It's a known fact that you will always lose with gambling in the long run. Yes you can win one time or several times in a row, you can be winning even several months in a row, but in the long run, if you won't stop, you will lose everything you have won before plus some amount.
But if a gambler is playing on his lucky day then earning thousands from just faucets are possible for any gambler. But he needs to stop to protect his so far winning amount rather than losing all the capital along with recent profits. It is not easy like how it sounds but practically also it will be possible if the gambler is conscious about protecting his profits and bankroll.

Instead of looking for big profit every day, if gamblers start looking into small profits multiple times within a day and in long run then definitely making thousands from faucet is possible.
2534  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Has anyone ever tried medicine to control impulsive gambling? on: July 18, 2017, 07:28:30 PM
For those into gambling have you ever tried to took some medicine just to control your impulsive gambling?

Like the Magic Bottle?  Cool

To be honest, i don't know what magic bottle is. As a hardcore gambler, actually i never tried medicine or even go to doctor to consult my gambling habbit. Because it's seems sucks, to cure a gambling habbit is must from himself. If the person won't quit gambling, it will be useless to go to doctor.
But gamblers are unable to control themselves but the external help from family and professional people are more effective to control gambling activity. So, you cannot say visiting a doctor psychiatry will help up to some extent. But I agree self control is the key even external helps are good or not.
2535  Economy / Speculation / Re: Still Believing That Bitcoin Can Rise High? on: July 13, 2017, 08:27:30 PM
I personally still believe that bitcoin can still rise high again, but to avoid the bad things that are likely to happen because of a chain split i will just keep half bitcoin in my wallet.
What you mean by holding half bitcoins ? You mean all of your other bitcoins will be in cold storage and only half in connected wallet ? I guess this is not significant as long as you are able to control those bitcoins by having access to privatekeys.
2536  Economy / Speculation / Re: 1st Aug event: Possible Bitcoin pump? on: July 13, 2017, 08:08:29 PM
Most of people speculate bitcoin dump because of 1st Aug event. But this is one of my assumptions: most of people will withdraw their bitcoin to the wallet, there will be less bitcoin on exchange causing low supply >>> price will increase. What's your opinion?
Seems a practical predictions but we need to consider the sentiment of most people as bitcoin may have blockchain split as not all miners will be ready to accept what segit and segwit2x demonstrate. The blockchain split may get less significance when miners may form a working consensus which will secure our bitcoins more efficiently like all miners may start working accepting the one single type of fork. In this case too I guess bitcoin prices may start skyrocketing.
2537  Economy / Economics / Re: Your plans for 1st august? on: July 13, 2017, 07:52:34 PM
I just read guides from our admin theymos. I believe I will be strictly following them for a better protections for my bitcoin holding. As per him we may need to avoid any payments 12 hours before fork will be happening which may lead to more transactions to happen by 31st of July. I believe I am not going to make any bitcoin payments for 2 days too. I am having some bitcoins kept in exchanges and I will move them into my cold storage and I guess I will be fully ready for August 1st.

More importantly we must wait for theymos to confirm everything will get settle down smoothly so that we may start using bitcoins after August 1st.
2538  Economy / Economics / Re: In event of your death on: July 13, 2017, 07:28:45 PM
I think you should make some hint so that people who you trust can find the way to use bitcoin as well as the private key. Nobody wants to lose their bitcoin forever even if he dies. Therefore, you should make some hint or give the private key to someone you trust the most. Bitcoin needs to be used and protect by both owners and who you trust
Not just hint, we must guide our family members like our children or grandchildren to take care of what ever assets we will be holding. It can be bitcoins or any physical assets too. For this reason my government always insist the importance of nominating someone for any financial activities. I believe my spouse and my children will take care of all my assets hopefully. 
2539  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin is money, everything else is credit. on: July 13, 2017, 07:08:30 PM
Sometimes back I remember a topic here which reads like : bitcoin is alone currency and all other altcoins are just applications.

Bitcoin is money I agree, at the same time it must be more than money. It must be a store of value along with investment vehicle. After gold (except few other precious metals and stone), human race is preparing to transact themselves without help of governments and central banks.

Bitcoin is more than money as it is a whole new system. It may replace fiats/gold/banking system and may introduce a new concept of world wide one single currency.
2540  Economy / Economics / Re: crypto is the future, make money of it on: July 13, 2017, 06:20:34 PM
my only regret would be needing more capital to take advantage of opportunities in the future and the present.
That is the simple and only requirement of every investment opportunity hence it is obvious here too with cryptos. Where you can make big money without enough capital ? But I guess bitcoin may give you a second chance. It is like if you will not get enough number of bitcoins which are essential to achieve some target money then you may need to wait some more time.

I mean to say to become millionaire in 2013, you might have needed 1000 bitcoins and in 2017 just 400 bitcoins will be more than enough to make you millionaire.
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