anybody here getting 1.6GHS on a 5870? getting better hashes than 280x  Haha, this is probably gonna fuck up your day, but check the pool.  I already received a mail the pool is only displaying half the hashrate of the miner... It's NOT the pool pool is not accurate.. refreshing page from time to time, my combined r9 390 and 5870 fluctuates from 1.7 GHs to 3GHs but sticks to more or less 2.5 GHs. I would run them separately and check your rates. I imagine most of that hash rate is coming from your r9 390 when you run them together. The vector setting defaults to 2 instead of 1 messing with the numbers on my 5770. I added -v 1 to my bat to fix it. My 5770 pulls around 393Mh/s per cgminer, pool shows between 300 - 450 depending on luck. The 5800 series should be twice that if I remember correctly. Also look at your acceptance rate. On the left I assume is your 290 started at 9:34:07 with 1032 shares accepted. On the right is your 5870 started at 9:34:09 with only 472 shares accepted. If they were started that close together your acceptance rate should be within 10-20% I would think. That makes me think it is the vector switch. My 5770 runs pretty good on a diff of 1 with a drop of the mem clock to 600, maxing out the gpu engine @ 960, and an intensity of 14. It runs at 61c. It's an old card that I'll run until it drops. I couldn't run my r9 380 & my 5770 together effectively. The high diff caused my 5770 to throw out "share above target" lowering my acceptance rate. You can only see it in verbose or debug since it isn't a reject or a hardware error. Just thought I'd mention it in case the 5800 is doing the same thing. You might be able to squeeze more out of it. added -v 1 to the .bat file it runs at 814Mhs now..thanks aside from the shares accepted, 390 best share is at 11k and 5870 is 2k before I restarted the 5870 with the -v 1 |
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anybody here getting 1.6GHS on a 5870? getting better hashes than 280x  Haha, this is probably gonna fuck up your day, but check the pool. I already received a mail the pool is only displaying half the hashrate of the miner... It's NOT the pool pool is not accurate.. refreshing page from time to time, my combined r9 390 and 5870 fluctuates from 1.7 GHs to 3GHs but sticks to more or less 2.5 GHs.  |
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anybody here getting 1.6GHS on a 5870? getting better hashes than 280x |
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I highly suggest not using USB risers especially if its a Window OS build and AMD cards. They don't do well with USB risers. Use ribbon risers instead. This is based on my experience with building miners.
what do you mean they don't do well? mine is pretty stable .. you must be referring to performance (hash rate)? i did a quick google on this...using usb risers will have a slight lower hash rate, using windows OS and AMD cards here and it is a stable setup. if you are living in hotter climate usb risers is the way...there is a trade off, a few hash rate vs more organized setup and temps (better spacing) |
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I highly suggest not using USB risers especially if its a Window OS build and AMD cards. They don't do well with USB risers. Use ribbon risers instead. This is based on my experience with building miners.
what do you mean they don't do well? mine is pretty stable .. you must be referring to performance (hash rate)? |
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Theoretical exercise: If I have free electricity, how can I most effectively spend $1,000 to purchase Monero mining equipment? A single, supercharged, AMD-based gaming computer? Two mid-range boxes? Five low end bare bones machines?
One or two cheap motherboard+cpu+RAM with a bunch (probably 4-5) of GPUs in each. GingerAle knows more about which GPUs to use. Mobo: 70$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157564This is the "mining" mobo - 1 main pci-x16, 5 pci-x1. Hard to find a board with 6 of these slots. This is the one. CPU: ~40$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116974&cm_re=LGA1150-_-19-116-974-_-ProductGPU: 340$ (X 2 ?) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150727&cm_re=390x-_-14-150-727-_-Productnote: the 390x doesn't have any reported hashrates as far as I can tell. All manufacturers (at least that new egg covers) have stopped making 290x's. You can still get an XFX 290x for ~300$, but with double the memory for 340, you might as well try the 390x. Note if you get 2 of the GPUs, you'll need a PCI riser. PSU - 130$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139057this leaves you 80$ for the hard drive and the memory, which you could easily do. Note - you're going to want to go linux for this build... just because. I'd build you this at cost, btw, if you don't wanna futz with the hardware. Granted, its all "put it where it fits", but I guess that still freaks some people out. r9 390 is more bang for the buck... PSU can be 850w .... the ones with 5 year warranty  if you can buy second hand pc parts from where you are..the better, just bought here.. 2 r9 390...brand new is better, with 2 year warranty or more (I need this ) motherboard ddr2 am2+ shipping included - 26$ rams 2 pieces ddr2 - 15$ amd athlon 64 x2 - a cpu i kept a for some time in the cabinet. 850w PSU bought last year powering my discarded older GPUs... I choose 850w anticipating to power next GPU purchase which is power hungry. if you are mining on free electricity find the most power hungry coin to mine, most likely it will be the most profitable in BTC once sold..and buy monero use this risers so you can have more space to get creative  |
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please add me to your list welcome to the list  |
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Hmmm.
I saw my name ...
wtf is here? I win something?
I know in person half of the person in your list. lol
wtf ariel?
Yes I create my account in bitcointalk to post in Darkcoin thread. and?
Hmmm?
wtf ariel?
Guys guys.. Trolleros and Trolleras : Make something for your fucking coin!!!!
Don't see it is dying?
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"What did you make for XMR guys??"
DrkLvr_ I create 3 new threads to treat DASH.
areilbit : I'm not sure but I also made a new thread about Dash member's registration date.
smoothie: I write 6 posts in the same page in the ANN Dash thread.
"Oooooohhh, I ask what did you MAKE FOR MONERO FUCKING STUPIDS!!!!"
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I'd like to quote this..see red letters above just in case readers missed that part... |
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how can you tell if you were in the air drop?
you have a parachute  you participate in it...you will know if you participated |
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pricing but overvalued now. Take some profit now cause if not you'll be bagholding. Just friendly advice.
This is what people were saying when Bitcoin was at $10 ... "nice price now, but overvalued, better sell now" Then when bitcoin was $100 ... "ok now it's REALLY overpriced, sell ASAP $100 is not normal, it will burst anytime" The point is not that I'm saying price will keep rising, it's just that "it is overpriced" is not a good argument Overpriced compared to what? The price is a reflection of people's expectations and speculation, that's all 1 - This is not bitcoin. 2 - Unproven 3 - It's overpriced because it's not people buying for the most part, it's whales/bots messing around and making it fly...if it isn't natural, then it's overpriced because it's been "forced" into that valuation...simple. You tell me, will you pay 650k for this or 250k when you know the value SHOULD be 250k (or maybe even less!). You best hope it goes to 1mil sats to make some half-decent profit return, if not you lose. Many we're in since cheaper...remember that. 4 - Regardless such is the game of crypto and alts, crazy. All your points are moot and invalid but I don't see the point in unpacking them, any intelligent person can do it for themselves. Let's agree to disagree. I don't want to litter the thread with useless discussions that have been regurgitated over and over on Bitcointalk in every altcoin thread. Your idea that there's a "natural" or "real" price is unfounded, a mere presupposition, and has no grounding in economic theory. There is no "real price" - there is no "inherent price" - it's simply a result of the ratio between demand and supply.  Fancy. So easy to state when the "demand" isn't bloody real! lol! Whatever, I myself have been in the coin since 225k so I'm not complaining, but you can be sure you're buying some of my coins at these prices since 500k+. Whatever. May as well hold some since it's being manipulated (key word here) and going up...see how she goes. You tell me, will you pay 650k for this or 250k when you know the value SHOULD be 250k (or maybe even less!) sold quite a stash eh...trying to buy back? but you can be sure you're buying some of my coins at these prices since 500k+ there are a 100 BTC orders above 500K.....your sells must have been wiped out |
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Forgot to mention ZCash stole the cash part of the name from Dash - Digital Cash. They've called their coin Zerocoin initially but figured Dash, Digital Cash is a better name and basically copied the idea.
Moner's trying the very same, to ride on the coattails of Dash, having designated trolls spreading bullshit in that other Dash thread. Really stinky tactic if you ask me.
Monero is obviously doing that because it can't stand on its own two feet and on its own merits. Very desperate the way Monero's acting, seeking attention like the most desperate attention whore or like some abused toothless crack-whore looking for her quick fix, ready to get down on her knees and please. You are a really sad bunch, aren't you?!
Now there ^ is an example of someone acting like the most desperate attention whore or like some abused toothless crack whore. I knew there was something funny up thread but i missed it... multitasking I suppose Herp take a look at this... I need your opinion about this...LOL  |
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Price doesn't stop rising... it's going to the moon.
decred coinmarketcap 2.2M...top 25 .............still loooooong way to go |
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I really hope you get everything figured out. We sure would miss you, God forbid, anything were to get worse. For one, the top notch crypto analysis. And two, the conversations with Monsterer. Priceless. "God dammit, Monsterer". Sorry that shit had me laughing so hard I couldn't breathe. Sorry man, I know he drives you crazy, but the shit is so fucking funny sometimes, even the times Im having a hard time keeping up. Learning a lot while laughing so hard I cry. You would be missed for many reasons! Stay focused and I'm sure you'll solve this puzzle as well missed? the man isn't going to die yet..he might outlive some of us here saw a cancer survivor outlived some of people who are speculating on his death..still gives me chuckles today |
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polo should be soon.. yeah lol at people who are dumping, polo is a bigger market. |
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14 owner control about 1868 masternodes. more than 50% : current masternode 3550. regard address with about 1000 coins as a masternode if you check masternode address transaction to make 1000 value, you can easily make masternode owner tree of 3550 example) 8 masternode owner : manual searching it is possible for 8 Mn owner if you check transation by program, huge holder also traceable. Xaka3hVrUMUDDJkw7NxqA2JczdC2yKjBQq 1025 XmEfHURCA85YDafRfSWwEkwZHrzDJn3jgQ 1019 XnNRrYt8eh1ttF3CPKWXFdss4eZdAN2PhH 1046 cannot find in dashninja.pl XjEooTnzdo4ni4L7wd9CRsJbjJz6JY6ZUf 1193 Xxcjgd3wofuQbJqu4gY8Bt12irz1EHCQpi 0 XiKDoE2LG1WocEhGeNZwi9qVgXW9agRw8k 1034 Xht7Yq4oVA2pFJfYDWMaQ5rUuaVPyPfTzN 0 XqZXHhokxPKM9FLNNWacdVVuj8DWQbsZrM 1030 XdancHFRMSbYgQ95QQX3GuKp8SP4wsYdxf 0 XfzvNPNwiFpSSsoAaNVYPcvdJB69Zq8dZm 1029 Xuvh8ZbfvWtERLhdMVuqcPgim1oASCcDT2 0 Xaka3hVrUMUDDJkw7NxqA2JczdC2yKjBQq 1025 XwUd1HU7tEm94oeJN2A8jtsbhfmrGjLkDV  see DASH is already centralized..DASH ASIC centralization is a non-issue |
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Could you all just relax a bit...
just enjoy the show ..this is the grown up, bitcointalk - forum version of school fist fight  |
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I not sure if I already login or not.
Maybe the English support is not showing well, or I am just not able to read the content the other language.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Thank you!
english is not showing well here too..i will wait until everything is okay. |
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I'm quoting my previous post because you sliced the important points and negate my argument LOL
That was opinion, not analysis. Why don't you post some hard data instead of waffle. The fact is that hashpower is hashpower - wherever it comes form. It goes hand in hand with coin development and commercial appeal. Marketcap and hashpower are generally positively correlated, doesn't matter if it comes from ASICS or anywhere else. There are good reasons for that, not least the fact that the correlation was built into the design of the proof of work algorithm in the first place.What makes far more difference than any of this however is whether a coin is seen my the market as an original in its class or not. The top 10-15 marketcap coins are there for that reason more than any other and the hashpower/marketcap is attracted to those networks accordingly.more miners going to work.. I don't think so ASICs is a form of centralization (mining farms, places where ASICs cannot be bought-no miners)
It doesn't matter. Large mining pools & farms are part of the woodwork in this economy. 5 big mining pools is just a highly scaled version of 50000 home miners. Dash is already mined in pools anyway. What's important is that no-one has a monopoly - new pools can be opened at any time by anyone and new server farms created. The top 10-15 marketcap coins are there for that reason more than any other and the hashpower/marketcap let's add top 9 Bytecoin filter non-mineable http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/views/filter-non-mineable/and my favorite, your failure kill coin Dashcoin DSH.. hashrate increased significantly more or less 10 times many months ago  price stagnates  Bytecoin - Dashcoin current hashrate comparison 80% of the freakin hashrate...just go to poloniex and compare the price of those two coin HARD DATA eh?  |
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384Mhash for ~$2100. 10 months to break even at 6000 difficulty $.10 power 25+ to break even at 12k diff and $.10 power. (according to Coin Warz calculator) I'm sure your numbers are right. But I think you are assuming there will be no virtuous cycle provided by a more secure blockchain. A Chinese company committed time and people and money to design, tapeout, manufacture, characterize, and bring into production an IC that is dedicated to mining X11 secured blockchains. This is capital intensive work. This is not rolleyes. This is a vote of confidence in the future of DASH. This a less efficient 152nm chip design than the typical 32nm, 25nm and now 16nm designs with bitcoin miners. But this does open the door to improve efficiency later which the manufacture indicated. The efficiency numbers still look pretty far out for payback, but this one machine can replace 10s of GPUs rigs. This is a good time to be in Dash.I disagree..scrypt altcoins plummet when ASICs are introduced..cheaper electricity makes cheaper coins add to that the POS masternodes that produces coins just by holding them.. Sell your DASH now, buy back in cents. Script altcoins plummet because there wasn't good inovation, when ASICs are intorduced. X11 ASIC would just replace GPU miners. DASH's core character is masternode. After pump, ...direct dump always in altcoin world. so it is about innovation now? DASH started as a bitcoin clone/fork... how about decred? not a bitcoin clone/fork where you can POS your coin without owning at least a 1000 (masternode), unlike DASH (reminds me when I talked about ethereum here last year LOL) Innovation alone cannot sustain the price when ASICs enters because there are competing coins in this open source crypto currency world... in the law of Supply and Demand..when the supply is cheap the demand will compensate the cheap supply of coins due to cheaper electricity and POS masternodes earning coins without "work". Competition between ASIC owner make coin production cost the same level as GPU mininig. Coin price depend on coin difference, marketing, usage, tech, coin capitalist, etc. Competition between ASIC owner make coin production cost the same level as GPU mininig. ASICs only purpose is to cheapen electricity cost and increase hashrate. ASICs are not as available as GPUs, they are expensive, cheaper on electricity and very low re sale value mining is.. electricity expenses = should covered by profitequipment purchase = there should be Return of investment thru profittime, effort, investment = should be covered by profit too ASICs will make DASH cheaper...ASICs cannot assure price increase... DASH ace card for price increase is only "innovation"..and I highly doubt that "DASH innovation" is really an "innovation" that will create DEMAND Coin price depend on coin difference, marketing, usage, tech, coin capitalist, etc. summarized to....DEMAND |
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BTC ASICs relations is different... It's not different. cheaper electricity makes cheaper coins It doesn't matter. The difficulty adjustment eliminates that as a factor when more miners join the network. Everybody said ASICS would "kill bitcoin". They didn't, they just made the network stronger to the point where it's impossible now for banks to compete with their poxy "in house", "blockchain not bitcoin" blockchains. We need ever increasing hashpower, increasing nodecount and increasing marketcap. All positively correlated. I'm quoting my previous post because you sliced the important points and negate my argument LOL in regards to bitcoin and ASICs.. it is different bitcoin is the first, it is not an altcoin, it is not a fork/cloneBTC ASICs relations is different...the law of supply and demand says more cheap bitcoin produced but the demand for the first crypto currency pulled the price even higher...looking at DASH I don't think so ... there are other coins out there The difficulty adjustment eliminates that as a factor when more miners join the network. more miners going to work.. I don't think so ASICs is a form of centralization (mining farms, places where ASICs cannot be bought-no miners) Everybody said ASICS would "kill bitcoin". They didn't, they just made the network stronger to the point where it's impossible now for banks to compete with their poxy "in house", "blockchain not bitcoin" blockchains. We need ever increasing hashpower, increasing nodecount and increasing marketcap. All positively correlated. it is all about the DEMAND for bitcoins that made the price increase and even more ASICs mined the shit out of it. |
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