Waiting on LMDB makes sense if AEON wants to remain focused on retaining a small footprint suitable for lower end and mobile devices.
Can the AEON GUI come before LMDB or would that involve more work in the long run (having to modify the GUI for LMDB later)?
Waste of time. I'd better prefer to have LMDB in it's current state because low-end hardware without SSD is loosing marketshare every day and shouldn't be a major issue. That will spot AEON and likely poloniex can bring it back to their awesome exchange. AEON need more volume, more advertisement, more users, without LMDB even in it's current state these 3 pillars will never be built. We're not waiting for some massive rewrite. There are some important tweaks that are already done but not merged. It won't be long. One thing to keep in mind is that although the changes in AEON were somewhat small in a sense, their effect is not. Combining the lighter PoW and the block time, our sync speed (using the RAM blockchain) is about 16 times faster than Monero on mainstream hardware like an i5 (with AES, 2+ cores and 2MB+ cache). So we have to be a bit more careful to ensure that the DB does not become a major bottleneck. Also, we still have the pruning branch which reduces RAM requirements quite a bit. |
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The listed HODLs have been sold and the order moved to Completed Trades
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I have 2000 on escrow for 0.00018 0.00017. Contact me to trade
EDIT: SOLD
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I just started looking into monero b/c it appears to be the best anonymous coin and the value that can provide is what made bitcoin what it is today. For those of you that don't know what I'm talking about, you don't need to know.
But there is a legit beef. I'm an IT guy and it is NOT TRIVIAL to do transactions. The wallet is called "simplewallet" it runs via a command line interface (CLI). I tried to use some third party gui "lightwallet" but that is a total joke. It wouldn't even write the config file. After 30 mins screwing with that piece of junk, I gave up.
1. There is no desktop GUI client wallet. I find that pretty poor planning. If you have no GUI wallet, then you have no usage. Someone badly needs to step up to the plate and get that built.
2. The fact it doesn't share bitcoin's codebase is both a curse and a sparkling diamond. B/c it doesn't get some free code from the bitcoin project, the client and updates are slower.
Going back to #1.
MONERO GET A GUI CLIENT UP NOW. The coin is worthless if it requires a CS degree to use a CLI wallet to use the damn thing. Consider who your target audience is. Also explain right off the bat what the viewkey is, the spendkey, and the PAYMENT ID (which I understand is mandatory for some merchants in order to verify a transaction even existed). mymonero.com is nice but you understand the entire purpose of this coin is super privacy. You can't have people viewing transactions on a website b/c there's no GUI client. Bam there goes privacy.
That should be priority 1 while you continue to work on the infrastrature. Get some usage, feedback, and more merchant support. Please. Otherwise the entire effort may be in vain.
There will be a GUI not now but soon. It is actively being worked on with most of the work already done and the rest was just funded. See here, screenshots and every thing. https://forum.getmonero.org/9/work-in-progress/2476/the-official-qt-gui-projectIf you are an IT guy it should not be a big deal for you and I assume your critique is about the wider use of the coin. It is an issue that keeps coming up so that will be reflected in the answers you get here. I'm not an IT guy but an idiot but with some motivation and help from the community I learned to use simple wallet with no problems. As an IT guy you can always contribute to this open source project. Well I just joined the dev team to help in this effort. Instead of just bitching, I'm now gonna take part in hopefully making this GUI a reality sooner rather than later. Why not join the Dash crew and actually get paid for your efforts from their decentralized budget? You will also get to be part of a team that actually stands a chance of developing a viable product long term. Dash's 'decentralized budget' is funded with about 220 DASH per day (6900 DASH per month). That comes to about 30K USD, with a significant portion going to things like buying overpriced domain names, PR, subsidized 'liquidity providers' (aka paid Sybil attackers) for Darksend, and soda machine projects, all of which have nothing to do with developent, while at the same time skimming from mining rewards and therefore reducing hash rate and the security of the network. Every credible Monero paid development proposal has been crowdfunded generally within 1-2 days, some with amounts of 10K USD or more. That is in addition to significant volunteer developer contributions of time, and donations to the core project expenses. There is no shortage of funding here compared to Dash. Try another FUD. |
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But in order for that to have credibility the two systems need to be separate, with their own sense of fateful identity.
The two projects are entirely separate. Both have their own leadership, brands, entirely separate finances, unique appraches to decision making, etc. There are some obvious connections though: 1. Many community members support both. 2. Some developers support both. This includes myself and Arux (not a programmer, but part of the development team of AEON, responsible for release engineering and QA). I'm part of the Monero core team, Arux is not (but he is an active community member and supporter of Monero). 3. The AEON code was originally forked from Monero (which of course was forked from Bytecoin) so there are many similarities in the code base and improvements made to one can by cross-ported to the other. This has happened in both directions already and will likely happen in the future. These common elements should not detract from the important differences. |
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OTC thread closed. Please use exchanges
You can either escrow already-agreed trades, or fund a open order by sending the BTC or HODL to me (PM for an address) with a price and I will complete the trade directly once a counterparty is found. Available funded offers will be listed in the OP.
I have eliminated escrow fees and I just collect interest on the HODL coins deposited. If I end up holding the coins for a while and there is no trade I'll send back a reasonable estimate of the interest. For pre-arranged trades where both parties ask me to escrow the trade and I'm not holding the HODL coins, there is still no fee but I will gratefully accept tips for good service.
Please edit your thread posts with p2p offers to keep them current.
Orders listed in bold are pre-funded (contact OP to trade). Other orders with a username can be found in the thread -- contact the user directly to trade.
Sells
2000/0.00018500 (Dogedigital)
3000/0.00018000 (Kushedout)
1400/0.00017000 (gregofdoom)
3480/0.00013999 (proletariat)
4000/0.00013000 (incognitoworker)
7500/0.00012000 (Dogedigital)
Buys
Completed trades
2016-03-24, 00:59:19 8000/0.00006000
2016-03-21, 01:09:03 5000/0.00007140
2016-03-14, 16:08:09 5000/0.00011000
2016-03-10, 07:52:42 5000/0.00011000
2016-03-09, 02:23:12 2000/0.00012500
2016-03-06, 15:16:27 3000/0.00013000
2016-02-29, 23:15:40 2000/0.00014500
2016-02-27, 23:49:36 2000/0.00013000
2016-02-26, 11:06:39 2000/0.00010000 *
2016-02-26, 03:54:43 2000/0.00014000
2016-02-25, 23:05:24 100/0.00011000
2016-02-24, 00:31:03 1000/0.00013000
2016-02-23, 04:35:57 2000/0.00017000
2016-02-22, 22:18:47 2000/0.00017000
* trade report delayed
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I'd like to buy some AEON, possible to do an OTC?
edit: nvm, will take this to bittrex
Nothing wrong with bittrex but OTC trades do happen from time to time as well. I helped arrange a 100K+ trade a few months ago. |
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I would like to get involve in this coin and list it on my coins to watch this year but unfortunately they are not traded on yobit,where my coins are and there are no monero faucets listed,this is a very promising coin and surprised that no faucets are existing
yeah... I tried to find some faucets for monero, but I found none... Faucet owners: Here's your opportunity! CPU or GPU mining is a good way to get small amounts. |
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Integrated/serealised addresses basically include the payment ID into the address, such that you only have to worry about 1 field.
That is really interesting. Is there any information on how to use this / how it works? It is part of simplewallet: integrated_address integrated_address [PID] - Encode a payment ID into an integrated address for the current wallet public address (no argument uses a random payment ID), or decode an integrated address to standard address and payment ID |
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If mymonero goes down there is no way I can access my wallet, right? I tried to use the simple wallet but is not very user-friendly. Are there more options? cheers
in the worst possible scenario, mymonero is down or unreachable for a very long time and you must absolutely access your wallet. indeed there is no easy way for non-tech user. but no easy way don't mean no way at all. the code to use a mymonero seed into a modified simplewallet was writing by wartangent here https://github.com/warptangent/bitmonero/tree/wallet_seed_updates_and_support_mymonero and i tested it successfully with 0.9.1.0 (proof and explanation here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg13698569#msg13698569) so don't be worried and keep using mymonero, your funds will be always accessible in one easy way (mymonero) or another one more complicated (modified simplewallet). Agree with Arux, but another alternative is to create a wallet using simplewallet and then log into that wallet using MyMonero. As long as you log into MyMonero before using the wallet for the first time, you don't need to pay the import fee. By doing this you end up with a wallet that is fully accessible using both methods. |
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If BTC wasn't on the rise I'd get back in to help you guys cut the shorters off at the balls.
If you want to cut off the shorters (and I don't even know if that is useful or not), the best way is to do what ArticMine consistently recommends. Take delivery of your coins (i.e move them off the exchanges into your own wallet where you control the private keys). This not only removes them from the explicit lending market but it removes them from any hidden fractional reserve (a shadow lending market). |
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This quote does nothing but say we will have another hard fork again and again and again. This hard-fork is expected to include features which are currently being discussed within technical communities, including an increase in the non-witness data to be around 2 MB, with the total size no more than 4 MB, and will only be adopted with broad support across the entire Bitcoin community. More so than that, what it says is that there will be hard fork debates again and again. |
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I don't think it is possible no matter how you do it. As I said, the buy pressure will support the price and this leads to people holding (and buying) for moon, plus mining continues.
Looks like we both edited a add while we both responded.  OK, lets assume Some 3 letter group says lets put all are hash into finding one transaction, We can do it even if it takes awhile. Then that entity releases that info like Shen just did only playing for time on how they did it. At the same time starting a fud campaign complete with a epic dump and sell wall. The sheeple will run for the hills. There are many scenarios that I have no clue if there is a contingency or not. My point is there should be if this project is to survive long term and not just be a proof of concept for a future one, which may be the goal. how am I to know. I'm not denying at all that attacks can happen. No one should expect that a little $10 million coin (or even a $6 billion) coin is secure against well-funded and capable attackers. But I don't think the attack can take the form of buying all the coins, or that is even part of a useful mode of attack; it is closer to counterproductive (other than perhaps a PoS coin). |
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^^ It is called an oligopoly: "a state of limited competition, in which a market is shared by a small number of producers or sellers."
I think this is hard to achieve and for sure not desirable. There is still plenty of supply from multiple 'producers', so there will be sellers and lenders for competing rates as well.
Plenty is the operative word here, when an entity has the ability to buy the marketcap without breaking a sweat then that "plenty" needs to be quantified and protected. And your idea of "plenty" is very far off the mark. Actually one of our Mathematicians should chime in to quantify what that number is. Nobody can buy the market cap regardless of how much they have to spend because it is a moving target, and one that recedes faster the more you try to chase it. As long as some people refuse to sell even infinite money can't buy all of it. The willingness of people to sell as the price goes up is natural and expected but also limited. Many people hold cryptos for moon and rising prices only increase resolve to hold (and for others to buy!) Also, you still have to consider mining. As long as there is non-trivial mining that's another reason you can't buy the marketcap, because more coins are being added to it all the time. Anyone can mine even if "all" of the market-float coins are controlled by someone or by people who won't sell. You are of course assuming that they purchase it quickly, they would not and there is no way to tell. Think about how you would do it and think about defending against that. I don't think it is possible no matter how you do it. As I said, the buy pressure will support the price and this leads to people holding (and buying) for moon, plus mining continues. The only way I think it could mostly work would be if there were no longer any (significant) belief in the possible success of the coin. People would dump and you could absorb the dumps, eventually accumulating most of the float. But as long as the project is credible I don't see it as plausible regardless of resources of the buyer. People want to own a piece of success. |
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The HODL fund has successfully reinvested the CON and CKG dividends. More shares are available at the new market price.
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Is it safe to assume that in the future, any official GUI wallet or something will account/help with this issue, like coin control etc? I mean, if people can move thousands of bitcoins around without any issue like this, why not Monero someday? Thanks again everyone. The issue of unmixable dust is going away after the upcoming fork. All coins will be mixable, though there still may be some issues with fee calculation being complicated. |
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^^ It is called an oligopoly: "a state of limited competition, in which a market is shared by a small number of producers or sellers."
I think this is hard to achieve and for sure not desirable. There is still plenty of supply from multiple 'producers', so there will be sellers and lenders for competing rates as well.
Plenty is the operative word here, when an entity has the ability to buy the marketcap without breaking a sweat then that "plenty" needs to be quantified and protected. And your idea of "plenty" is very far off the mark. Actually one of our Mathematicians should chime in to quantify what that number is. Nobody can buy the market cap regardless of how much they have to spend because it is a moving target, and one that recedes faster the more you try to chase it. As long as some people refuse to sell even infinite money can't buy all of it. The willingness of people to sell as the price goes up is natural and expected but also limited. Many people hold cryptos for moon and rising prices only increase resolve to hold (and for others to buy!) Also, you still have to consider mining. As long as there is non-trivial mining that's another reason you can't buy the marketcap, because more coins are being added to it all the time. Anyone can mine even if "all" of the market-float coins are controlled by someone or by people who won't sell. |
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To me it looks like in 2016 Monero has resurrected from the death.
Death is taking things way to far. Monero has been at worst in the top 15-20 market cap coins (out of hundreds and probably 50-100 with at least somewhat active development) for virtually its lifetime and that is including some absurdly fake market caps among those above it. Monero also has always had very active development. Not having a lot of fireworks every day is not at all the same as dead. Have a little patience. Yes Monero was dead pricewise since fall 2014 when Bitcoinexpress attacked and the dumping war started. Luckily Risto pumped the price to 0.004 a year ago, then we had some hope if 0.004 could be a new rock bottom, but hehold, the price started to fall again. I was able to jump out around 0.003. Now BTC has started slowly creeping back on its feet and hopefully the current bull trend of Monero continues. When the price is in bull market, and the coin is not own by 1-2 individuals trading it up with each other, it will create a positive loop. Also, it is only a matter of time once dark markets will find Monero. It might take 1 year or less but most likely it will take longer (even a decade or two). Speculators and people with wealth love a coin that that appreciates and thus increases their purchasing power. I have a better narrative. (Better in the sense that it at least matches the objective market history.) First of all the price decline started well before BCX. The trend was steady from the summer highs in 2014 until winter 2014-2015 when it reached the famous "under 25 cents" (<0.001 BTC) lows. If you look at the price action in 2014, BCX had little effect on the trend; it was already well underway by the time his FUD storm started. Even the actual attack on the network (early September) was much the same -- it did not change the trend much if at all. There was as you say a short pump in early 2015 (maybe that was indeed Risto, I can't say either way). The pump didn't last but the price remained significantly higher (close to double) after the pump than the previous lows for at least six months. Throughout that time period the market cap was steady to slowly increasing, meaning the overall value of the coin and network was not even declining much less dead, but investors who bought in too early were either stuck in a rut, or if they bought at highs, being hurt (at least compared to BTC, though fiat price was steady to increasing for most of that time period) by the ongoing dilution. Now that emission has declined and interest has picked up a bit, the supply/demand balance has slowly improved and we are seeing some price rises in addition to accelerated market cap growth. Of course there is no way to know whether that will continue, and obviously there can be extreme volatility (in either direction) at any time. |
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