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2821  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VRC] | VeriCoin | PoS - Dynamic Interest | No Premine on: June 19, 2014, 04:30:34 AM
VeryBit is somehow a huge innovation (VeriBit actually slows down even more than Bitcoin all transactions, imagine that as an "innovation"...).

VeriBit isn't innovative because it's fast, but rather because it opens up a new coin to a marketplace that's been building for years. Anyway, I appreciate your insight. Thanks for the response.

is there any possible way for VeriBit to have a faster transaction time than bitcoin? now, that would really be very attractive..

No because payments would be in Bitcoin which means that's the rate limiting factor.

Which, once again, poses the interesting question of why the programmer/s and coder/s of Vericoin would waste their considerable talent and valuable time in developing such a feature that, obviously, poses no advantage whatsoever in any potential scenario...

Oh and by the way, has any of you bright lights considered that the name of this coin is graphically and phonetically IDENTICAL to a very similar coin, minus one letter? One would think that it lends itself to not just confusion but sit-com situations in fact of terrible consequences to each and both?

But yeah, just pointing out all these obvious slips means, no question about it, that I MUST have some sinister agenda... Maybe I am against the inevitable total world domination that Vericoin will effect (not to be mistaken by Vertcoin, of course) not just across the planet Earth but also other galaxies because, well, because we, at VerIcoin are the smartest, sharpest knives in every kitchen in the known and unknown world.

Oh boy oh fucking boy...
2822  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VRC] | VeriCoin | PoS - Dynamic Interest | No Premine on: June 18, 2014, 06:47:48 PM
It is a bit sad that many are "running" on the gas of delusion. And, by extension, coming with concepts such a "better than..." other coins. Or, in at least one case, mistaken the price per coin for the market cap thus adding to unnecessary confusion.

--FACT is that VRC is no better -nor worse- than hundreds other coins out there, both valued higher and lower than it.
--FACT is that the many flavors of "anon" are just a fad -susceptible of being hyped, of course- that has, in the very short run, an absurd effect on price but will have none long term for it is a feature, when and if completely implementable, that has next to no actual practical purpose.
--FACT is that VRC has a VERY POOR logo and that reflects indeed in the very important appeal that logos can bring.
--FACT is the VRC has no plans whatsoever to take it to the next level in terms of promotion or other efforts to bring it to the mainstream. In other words, no one outside of very well versed cryptoaddicts have even heard of VRC.
--FACT is that no one cares about the potential for software incorporation in the near future this coin may have.
--FACT is that there's no branding efforts in progress, not even plans for ones.
--FACT is that the gimmick of the dynamic interest is of so minimal importance that it doesn't even work as such gimmick.

All of these FACTS hinder the progression and value potential of this coin that is only a nerd game and, therefore, destined to be trading within a range of limited risk mini pumps and dumps, for there's absolutely nothing to look forward in it other than delusion, wild hopes and speculations based on a supposed superiority in programming, or software potential that is very far from proven and that, by the time it comes to fruition, will probably have been already implemented by a significant number of coins, some of them probably with superior overall or even particular product.

Now, every one of the deluded will come with their inevitable attacks and disqualifications because that's the way the cookie crumbles in cryptoland. Sorry but all those FACTS are realities and a sobering dose of it -and hopefully subsequent corrective action- is quite needed. If you want to see the price of this coin to rise, much more is required than lines of code: It is called work, commitment, investment, promotion and dedication on the part of the community.

Ask yourself this question: Why would someone buy VRC now? There are only two possible answers: a) because they think it will go up ion price and they can make a quick profit of 20-30% or b) because they expect it to go much higher than that from the current price and maybe pocket 80-90% or even a double or more. In Either and all cases, no one but no one will buy this coin today because they give it even a glimmer of a chance to some day become an actual storage or value, much less a coin with any practical use in the real world. Unless that perception is changed dramatically, no one will ever invest seriously in this coin.

Now, time to shoot the messenger.




You know, you've said a lot of crap before but this is the first thing you've posted that's been constructive. I'd love to hear your advice on fixing the "FACTs" so we can better the coin. Seriously.

You know, you have posted ONLY crap before, but this is the first time you have shown some capacity to reason. Seriously.

And now that the usual pleasantries have been exchanged and you have exceeded, again, at showing that PR talents simply avoided you completely, you perhaps should ask yourself why on earth would I volunteer any solutions to the obvious problems when even asking, nicely, is such a challenge.

I thought I have made it perfectly clear before that one of the main problems of this coin is the arrogance of the developers which, naturally, has extended to most of the community. Which is really peculiar because it is akin, in some cases, to a 5'5" guy pretending to be taller than a 6'2" one.

Do you really look for a solution to the fact that your logo looks like the Ipad "creation" of a 7-year-old child? Really?

Anyway, a total change in attitude would be a good start to, first, identify and admit the many obvious problems this coin has. Then it would be the time to actually consider potential solutions supported by a community that you have spoon-fed all kinds of fallacies for them to believe that "dynamic" interest is of ANY interest to anyone, SMS is akin to the Second Coming or that VeryBit is somehow a huge innovation (VeriBit actually slows down even more than Bitcoin all transactions, imagine that as an "innovation"...).

Oh but don't feel too too bad, because you are by no means alone in Crypto. Cinni, Caix and I am quite sure several others have been enduring similar arrogance -in all cases, absolutely baseless-. It's only that the markets have, logically, been setting their records straight -just like they have yours- accordingly, rather  emphatically of late.

Of course you will spin this answer as FUD or CRAP or whatever else fits your agenda or your conception of saving face. Worry not: The market will continue showing you the way in a rather "constructive" way.
2823  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VRC] | VeriCoin | PoS - Dynamic Interest | No Premine on: June 18, 2014, 08:59:52 AM
It is a bit sad that many are "running" on the gas of delusion. And, by extension, coming with concepts such a "better than..." other coins. Or, in at least one case, mistaken the price per coin for the market cap thus adding to unnecessary confusion.

--FACT is that VRC is no better -nor worse- than hundreds other coins out there, both valued higher and lower than it.
--FACT is that the many flavors of "anon" are just a fad -susceptible of being hyped, of course- that has, in the very short run, an absurd effect on price but will have none long term for it is a feature, when and if completely implementable, that has next to no actual practical purpose.
--FACT is that VRC has a VERY POOR logo and that reflects indeed in the very important appeal that logos can bring.
--FACT is the VRC has no plans whatsoever to take it to the next level in terms of promotion or other efforts to bring it to the mainstream. In other words, no one outside of very well versed cryptoaddicts have even heard of VRC.
--FACT is that no one cares about the potential for software incorporation in the near future this coin may have.
--FACT is that there's no branding efforts in progress, not even plans for ones.
--FACT is that the gimmick of the dynamic interest is of so minimal importance that it doesn't even work as such gimmick.

All of these FACTS hinder the progression and value potential of this coin that is only a nerd game and, therefore, destined to be trading within a range of limited risk mini pumps and dumps, for there's absolutely nothing to look forward in it other than delusion, wild hopes and speculations based on a supposed superiority in programming, or software potential that is very far from proven and that, by the time it comes to fruition, will probably have been already implemented by a significant number of coins, some of them probably with superior overall or even particular product.

Now, every one of the deluded will come with their inevitable attacks and disqualifications because that's the way the cookie crumbles in cryptoland. Sorry but all those FACTS are realities and a sobering dose of it -and hopefully subsequent corrective action- is quite needed. If you want to see the price of this coin to rise, much more is required than lines of code: It is called work, commitment, investment, promotion and dedication on the part of the community.

Ask yourself this question: Why would someone buy VRC now? There are only two possible answers: a) because they think it will go up ion price and they can make a quick profit of 20-30% or b) because they expect it to go much higher than that from the current price and maybe pocket 80-90% or even a double or more. In Either and all cases, no one but no one will buy this coin today because they give it even a glimmer of a chance to some day become an actual storage or value, much less a coin with any practical use in the real world. Unless that perception is changed dramatically, no one will ever invest seriously in this coin.

Now, time to shoot the messenger.


2824  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Revamped PinkCoin (PC / PINK) PoS | Multipool | Fundraiser | Anonymous on: June 17, 2014, 04:36:00 AM
I'm going to make a wall of honour for most amazing person!!! I win first place
congrats to me!!

this is basically like giving pink coin a sticker if you are a grade 2 teacher (r u a grade 2 teacher?)

It is what it is: The first coin I have found that complies with the basic requirements plus some other considerations. Hopefully, there will be others. But at least 98% -probably more- do not.

What you choose to make of that fact, just like what you choose to think of me, is not of my incumbence.
2825  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: THE WALL OF HONOR on: June 16, 2014, 11:44:30 PM
we (Diamond[DMD]) can fulfill all requirements beside non moderated thread

in my opinion a clean up of thread by remove as example bug-reports of already fixed bugs and so on  make reading the thread much easier

moderating of a thread is well used not a tool of censorship but a tool to reduce redundant information and outdated info
s
Sorry but I disagree. There's NO EXCUSE WHATSOEVER to have censorship on official threads, IRCs, etc. The ONLY "reason" for it is to effect absolute control over what is posted and that goes against the most basic rule of freedom, the freedom of speech. And, I would add, against what crypto is supposed to represent. Threads shouldn't be "easy" to read; they should be free. And, like everything, such freedom comes with positives and negatives. The former so far outweight the later that it shouldn't even be a consideration.

As for the excuse regarding repetition or outdated posts -which is not a negative for many researching would like to know not only that the bug got fixed but what the process was to get it fixed-, it is easily solved by keeping the OPs promptly and adequately updated -which should be a top priority for all the people in charge-.

Self-moderated threads should be closed and replaced for non-moderated ones. It is that simple and anyone who has nothing to hide, should clearly see the need for this and act accordingly... immediately if they want to be considered for entry in THE WALL OF HONOR.

ADT v1 was not self moderated and we had a whole load of issues with people promoting other coins in the thread when we moved to ADT v2.0 we went for self moderated to stop us having to contact the mods every day to get spam removed the only way we will ever swap back is if the comunaty want it and I don't see that happening any time soon if coins are not on the list just because of self moderated it proves that you have no interest In doing the right thing  

Well we are going to have to agree to disagree then on that point. Freedom of speech will never, under any and all circumstances, be even up for discussion. And if you believe that it is because I have no interest in doing "the right thing", that's just too bad; reality is that, best case scenario, you just choose not to deal with a supposed problem of spam. It is your choice. I cannot be more clear about this one: No censorship of ANY kind for ANY reason whatsoever.

I think you should consider modifying that criteria. For example, the SolarCoin Forum has occasionally had problems with spammers posting ads for prescription drugs and other random consumer goods, etc. Obvious kinds of spam. Naturally, our forum admin deletes that crap. I hope that doesn't mean SolarCoin would be automatically excluded from consideration for the Wall of Honor.

As a matter of fact, Solarcoin IS being considered for entry in THE WALL OF HONOR list. And, I am afraid, there will not be exceptions regarding that basic requirement. As yoiu can see, we deal with spam, hatred, racism and all kinds of SHIT like that here. So can you.

In principle and pending further research, Solarcoin does indeed have many requirements we look forward in candidates to our WALL OF HONOR. But is your official threads, IRCs, Twitters, etc. are moderated, sorry but it just won't do.
2826  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Revamped PinkCoin (PC / PINK) PoS | Multipool | Fundraiser | Anonymous on: June 16, 2014, 09:28:59 PM
PINKCOIN, first coin featured in THE WALL OF HONOR: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=651689.msg7303479#msg7303479

Congratulations.
2827  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: THE WALL OF HONOR on: June 16, 2014, 08:46:58 PM
HonorCoin's time to shine will be in a week. You heard it here first.

The revamping of Honorcoin has been considered for THE WALL OF HONOR but fails to meet the fair and wide distribution requirement in a very bad way. In my opinion -which I posted in their official thread-, it has been designed to favor, in a very unfair way, the initial miners of the coin who are the ones who staged this "revamping". So Honor will NOT be in THE WALL OF HONOR.
2828  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Thread {Updates & Discussion} on: June 16, 2014, 03:05:38 PM


NEM - Best Distribution of Any Crypto to Date


2800 accounts


>>Sure there naturally were some sockpuppets
         >There was at the very least over 1000 REAL Humans who initially received a stake.
                        ->700+ of those being veteran accounts
         >Out of those stakeholders almost 500 sold parts of their stake on the Nxt AE
         >Helpers, Designers, etc. received a stake, spreading out the distribution as well
         >On top of that there is still an upcoming auction for charity/branding package

            * NEM has had it problems with UP trolling the Simcoin
               thread under a sockpuppet that was a stakeholder
               and he admitted to having another sock as well


Regardless NEM rightfully earns a spot on the Wall of Honor for the most de-centralized distribution to date

As the responsible party for THE WALL OF HONOR, the clumsy attempt by "Chris001" to 'nominate' NEM is just blatant spam. The fact is that NEM is just one of hundreds or coins nominated and that the list of THE WALL OF HONOR will be always included, in it's totality, at the bottom of the opening post in said WALL OF HONOR. This attempt, if confirmed that perpetrated by the dev team or one of its members, will, in fact, disqualify NEM for such consideration and could potentially merit the inclusion of NEM in THE WALL OF SHAME instead.
2829  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: THE WALL OF HONOR on: June 16, 2014, 02:53:08 PM


NEM - Best Distribution of Any Crypto to Date


2800 accounts


>>Sure there naturally were some sockpuppets
         >There was at the very least over 1000 REAL Humans who initially received a stake.
                        ->700+ of those being veteran accounts
         >Out of those stakeholders almost 500 sold parts of their stake on the Nxt AE
         >Helpers, Designers, etc. received a stake, spreading out the distribution as well
         >On top of that there is still an upcoming auction for charity/branding package

            * NEM has had it problems with UP trolling the Simcoin
               thread under a sockpuppet that was a stakeholder
               and he admitted to having another sock as well


Regardless NEM rightfully earns a spot on the Wall of Honor for the most de-centralized distribution to date

While we appreciate your nomination and eagerness, this is pure and simple spam. On a thread such as this, spam like this is inevitable.
2830  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: THE WALL OF HONOR on: June 16, 2014, 08:24:31 AM
Much talking. List those coins already.

Due to Father's Day celebration, the release of the first name will be made on Monday the 16th, rather than on Sunday as was originally scheduled. 
2831  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: THE WALL OF HONOR on: June 16, 2014, 07:19:00 AM
Sweet, that rules NOBL out. Will be (very) interesting, perhaps even comical, to see which coins are put forward..

Lets just leave it at "interesting", should we?

If you chose to have absolute control over the opinions, claims, etc. that your community -or anyone- makes on your threads or others official ways of communication, that was your prerogative, much like dictators have across history --and will always do. You can opt out of such dictatorial attitude and see the light of freedom and then  be considered... if that is the only basic rules you don't currently fulfill. Otherwise, you will simply not be considered.

And, to be quite honest, your comment here, with the unnecessary and quite negative sarcasm, is a clear indication as to why you want absolute control over what is post and is not.

And it doesn't paint a pretty picture.

Post whatever *criticisms* you want in the NOBL thread. The massive scam accusations and criticism from day 1 still sit there as well as us answering/addressing them as best we can. Post huge quote-quote-quote red text, scam pools & exchange ads, personal attacks and it will get removed.  Dictatorial powers..

You really think we want the drama and personal insults/arguments all you randoms bring flooding the NOBL channel? It's like days of our lives in half these coins threads..

Like I have stated so many times already: It is your prerogative. And mine.

And since, obviously, your coin will not be included for it fails to comply with all requirements, I really fail to see the point of you keeping on posting here... not that you are not absolutely free to do it in whatever terms you choose, mind you. Which is, again, precisely the point.
2832  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: THE WALL OF HONOR on: June 16, 2014, 06:48:55 AM
we (Diamond[DMD]) can fulfill all requirements beside non moderated thread

in my opinion a clean up of thread by remove as example bug-reports of already fixed bugs and so on  make reading the thread much easier

moderating of a thread is well used not a tool of censorship but a tool to reduce redundant information and outdated info
s
Sorry but I disagree. There's NO EXCUSE WHATSOEVER to have censorship on official threads, IRCs, etc. The ONLY "reason" for it is to effect absolute control over what is posted and that goes against the most basic rule of freedom, the freedom of speech. And, I would add, against what crypto is supposed to represent. Threads shouldn't be "easy" to read; they should be free. And, like everything, such freedom comes with positives and negatives. The former so far outweight the later that it shouldn't even be a consideration.

As for the excuse regarding repetition or outdated posts -which is not a negative for many researching would like to know not only that the bug got fixed but what the process was to get it fixed-, it is easily solved by keeping the OPs promptly and adequately updated -which should be a top priority for all the people in charge-.

Self-moderated threads should be closed and replaced for non-moderated ones. It is that simple and anyone who has nothing to hide, should clearly see the need for this and act accordingly... immediately if they want to be considered for entry in THE WALL OF HONOR.

ADT v1 was not self moderated and we had a whole load of issues with people promoting other coins in the thread when we moved to ADT v2.0 we went for self moderated to stop us having to contact the mods every day to get spam removed the only way we will ever swap back is if the comunaty want it and I don't see that happening any time soon if coins are not on the list just because of self moderated it proves that you have no interest In doing the right thing  

Well we are going to have to agree to disagree then on that point. Freedom of speech will never, under any and all circumstances, be even up for discussion. And if you believe that it is because I have no interest in doing "the right thing", that's just too bad; reality is that, best case scenario, you just choose not to deal with a supposed problem of spam. It is your choice. I cannot be more clear about this one: No censorship of ANY kind for ANY reason whatsoever.

does anyone want to bet that all the coins that end up on this list are coins that this guy holds  

May I participate in that bet or is it just plain baseless stupidity? First of all, if I hold some amount of a coin that I find worthy of THE WALL OF HONOR, that would be the most logical thing for my endorsement actually reveals that after thorough research and examination I have found not just that the coin fulfills all the basic requirements but also is an excellent investment, in my opinion, so being an investor in it would make all the sense in the world AND I intend to be invested, whatever small, effectively in one and all the listed coins. This is a WALL OF HONOR, not the New York Times or the Wall Street Journal. I don't ask for donations -like every single blogger I know of, and I do the work to reflect that there's honor in crypto... which doesn't mean, necessarily, that the coins that show to have it, are the most profitable. But you anticipate some kind of ulterior, bastardly, motives behind it and that, quite frankly, is and will remain your problem, not mine. And the problem of others will be to figure out if my motivation to include those coins in the WALL OF HONOR is my possible measly investment in some of them or the consequence the other way around. That is, precisely, why there are those BASIC REQUIREMENTS that 98% of the coins out there, yours included, fail to fulfill.

In any case, this Wall will just be a badge of honor, as stated before, not a guarantee of profit for those who decide to invest in the coins listed here. It has been designed as that and as a guarantee, instead, that the coins would have been fairly well distributed, sport absolute transparency, have responsible devs not hiding under anonymous and often changing handles, no instamine/premine exceeding 10% of total coins ever available and no censorship of any kind in their official threads. Anything else, they will have to decide for themselves.
2833  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: THE WALL OF SHAME on: June 16, 2014, 06:29:39 AM
I'm not sure if this is relevant for the wall of shame, However, I feel that folks need to be informed of all types of
fraud that is taking place in the crypto world.
My accusations of thievery go to the alt coin exchange known as Coinex.pw
This site has been stealing coins for over 2 months now and is STILL open and accepting deposits from unsuspecting traders.
when someone deposits their coins into their account, they do not get credited to their account. There is no
response from their support and no admins. in their chat. This is not FUD, I have proof of this site taking my own 0.265 btc deposit
and never credited it to my account, and according to the blockchain, my Bitcoin had been spent. I hope this
info saves some other traders from losing money to these thieves. Coinex.pw is a scam site and needs to be shut down, and the
owners need to be held responsible for their actions! Thanks for creating this thread. I know it will be very useful for many.
peace and happy trading Cheesy

chuck
 

Thank you for posting your experience and yes, any shameful behavior in crypto does belong in the WALL OF SHAME as a red flag for others.
2834  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: THE WALL OF HONOR on: June 15, 2014, 07:25:04 PM
we (Diamond[DMD]) can fulfill all requirements beside non moderated thread

in my opinion a clean up of thread by remove as example bug-reports of already fixed bugs and so on  make reading the thread much easier

moderating of a thread is well used not a tool of censorship but a tool to reduce redundant information and outdated info
s
Sorry but I disagree. There's NO EXCUSE WHATSOEVER to have censorship on official threads, IRCs, etc. The ONLY "reason" for it is to effect absolute control over what is posted and that goes against the most basic rule of freedom, the freedom of speech. And, I would add, against what crypto is supposed to represent. Threads shouldn't be "easy" to read; they should be free. And, like everything, such freedom comes with positives and negatives. The former so far outweight the later that it shouldn't even be a consideration.

As for the excuse regarding repetition or outdated posts -which is not a negative for many researching would like to know not only that the bug got fixed but what the process was to get it fixed-, it is easily solved by keeping the OPs promptly and adequately updated -which should be a top priority for all the people in charge-.

Self-moderated threads should be closed and replaced for non-moderated ones. It is that simple and anyone who has nothing to hide, should clearly see the need for this and act accordingly... immediately if they want to be considered for entry in THE WALL OF HONOR.

ADT v1 was not self moderated and we had a whole load of issues with people promoting other coins in the thread when we moved to ADT v2.0 we went for self moderated to stop us having to contact the mods every day to get spam removed the only way we will ever swap back is if the comunaty want it and I don't see that happening any time soon if coins are not on the list just because of self moderated it proves that you have no interest In doing the right thing  

Well we are going to have to agree to disagree then on that point. Freedom of speech will never, under any and all circumstances, be even up for discussion. And if you believe that it is because I have no interest in doing "the right thing", that's just too bad; reality is that, best case scenario, you just choose not to deal with a supposed problem of spam. It is your choice. I cannot be more clear about this one: No censorship of ANY kind for ANY reason whatsoever.
2835  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: THE WALL OF HONOR on: June 15, 2014, 05:27:21 PM
we (Diamond[DMD]) can fulfill all requirements beside non moderated thread

in my opinion a clean up of thread by remove as example bug-reports of already fixed bugs and so on  make reading the thread much easier

moderating of a thread is well used not a tool of censorship but a tool to reduce redundant information and outdated info

Sorry but I disagree. There's NO EXCUSE WHATSOEVER to have censorship on official threads, IRCs, etc. The ONLY "reason" for it is to effect absolute control over what is posted and that goes against the most basic rule of freedom, the freedom of speech. And, I would add, against what crypto is supposed to represent. Threads shouldn't be "easy" to read; they should be free. And, like everything, such freedom comes with positives and negatives. The former so far outweight the later that it shouldn't even be a consideration.

As for the excuse regarding repetition or outdated posts -which is not a negative for many researching would like to know not only that the bug got fixed but what the process was to get it fixed-, it is easily solved by keeping the OPs promptly and adequately updated -which should be a top priority for all the people in charge-.

Self-moderated threads should be closed and replaced for non-moderated ones. It is that simple and anyone who has nothing to hide, should clearly see the need for this and act accordingly... immediately if they want to be considered for entry in THE WALL OF HONOR.
2836  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: THE WALL OF HONOR on: June 15, 2014, 05:19:10 PM
Sweet, that rules NOBL out. Will be (very) interesting, perhaps even comical, to see which coins are put forward..

Lets just leave it at "interesting", should we?

If you chose to have absolute control over the opinions, claims, etc. that your community -or anyone- makes on your threads or others official ways of communication, that was your prerogative, much like dictators have across history --and will always do. You can opt out of such dictatorial attitude and see the light of freedom and then  be considered... if that is the only basic rules you don't currently fulfill. Otherwise, you will simply not be considered.

And, to be quite honest, your comment here, with the unnecessary and quite negative sarcasm, is a clear indication as to why you want absolute control over what is post and is not.

And it doesn't paint a pretty picture.
2837  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: THE WALL OF HONOR on: June 14, 2014, 06:34:26 PM
It's going to be a sparse wall..

Hopefully not too sparse but, the positive side of that will be that the ones appearing here will be even more favored, as they should, by people. This will be their badge of honor and, if the ultimate objective, the barrier of entry in cryptoworld for any other coins.

Of course some people will disagree with the basics here but a moderated thread is poison in crypto, NO MATTER WHAT, and there's absolutely no legitimate reason for it. None. Not "ifs" no "buts".

As for instamine or premine, ZERO would be ideal but probably not realistic. I have set a margin of 10% because, depending on the ideas and plans, it could be reasonable. More worrysome than the 10% allowed to developers for a total development of their coins beyond the straight help of their community -and their deserved compensation for bringing it about-, is the distribution, that it is hardly fair ion 99% of the coins out there.

Anyway, there are few -but some- that not only fit the basics for exceed them. Which is VERY good.
2838  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / THE WALL OF HONOR on: June 14, 2014, 07:22:24 AM
I created the WALL OF SHAME as a reference and with the purpose to eliminate the bad players, the bad guys of Crypto. As a counter to that, I embarked on a much more pleasurable enterprise by creating the WALL OF HONOR. Here we will list Alternative currencies and platforms that are the opposite of those on the WALL OF SHAME. To be included, these will be the barriers of entry:

-- Outstandingly fair distribution. This is a huge obstacle for many coins out there have magnificent models and platforms but are owned by very few individuals. Bitcoin itself would not be ever included precisely for that reason. There are many other great currencies and platforms whose distribution is, in our view, unfair. That will preclude them for entering the WALL OF HONOR which is reserved for the most outstanding atl currencies and platforms only.

-- No premine/instamine or other forms of mining exceeding 10% of the total coins.

-- Total transparency, preferably with legal names. But we will be flexible at this point as long as at least one of the dev team members produces their real legal name and location.

-- Non moderated or otherwise censored official threads, IRCs, Reddits, Twitters, Facebooks, etc.

Other considerations will also apply but those are basically the basic requirements.

IMPORTANT: The entire list of the WALL OF HONOR will be in this opening post. No other coins spammed or otherwise nominated, have made it to the list. If if it not in the list at the bottom of THIS opening post, it is NOT in THE WALL OF HONOR.



1.- PINKCOIN (PC). The current iteration of this coin, a true community launch after the disastrous initial, scammy, launch of the coin, not only meets our basic requirements but we have found it exceeds in almost every other aspect, from dedication on the part of the most visible PR members to a generosity that I have never witnessed in any other coin. The fact that it is a coin with a charitable purpose, which could be perceived as gimmicky (bat in a very positive way), only adds to that perception. All the "filters" have been passed with outstanding results also regarding transparency, freedoms (their IRC channel seems to require invitation/password but I had no problem logging in without either... and I was informed that they simply are not aware of it, so no such requirements are necessary).

Disclosure: I intend to invest in Pinkcoin at some point in the future. At the time of this writing and posting though, I have no investment of any kind in it.


EDITED ON OCTOBER 3RD, 2014:

Many things have changed in these almost 4 months since PINK was the first (and only) digital currency included in this Wall. Among others, the "charitable purpose" is reasonably in question given the fact that no efforts of any kind are actually made to promote that aspect of the project with that last donation being over 40 days old and the total of donors in over 4 months having only reached 9 -with 3 of them- supplying almost half of the total of just over $600 donated so far.

Meanwhile, through Danny Johnson, the main dev's connection to the poker world, PINK has become, in effect, "the gambling coin" with all its "promotion" centered in either the "poker feature" of the coin, the "challenges for money" (nothing to charity) or the "lottery twitter bot"  -also gambling-, as main exponents of the shit in promotion and direction (the twitter lottery bot gives a very small portion of its revenue to charity, having the total amount given reached just over $200 since inception).

Additionally, the developers of PINK have been auctioning and selling the software they have created for the project using the PINK platform to advertise it (the following figures prominently in the OP of their official thread here in BTCT: CONTACT US FOR INTEGRATING THE ANON FEATURE FOR YOUR COIN.. This has been public knowledge only after a not so gracious exit of "boxxa" from the development team caused a charge of "attempted extortion for money", by "boxxa", was made by the dev "fayoling". It turns out that the devs of PINK are selling the software they have created initially for pink to anyone willing to pay for it, with the proceeds lining the dev's pockets. Meanwhile the "official" response if that they would help "friends" on a "you scratch my back I'll scratch yours" euphemism as a mantra.

Branching out on that mantra, the same dev, on behalf of a fellow dev (sumgye), used the official thread of PINK to promote the ICO of the new SEEDCOIN, introducing the quite anonymous developer of that coin, Cryptzo, as a dear and trusted friend of Sumgye, clearly endorsing the competition.

In view of all the aforementioned developments, the listing of PINK in this Wall of Honor is hereby withdrawn for not only not corresponding but actually diverging from the initial path and objectives that prompted it's inclusion in it. I should clarify that this withdrawal is by no means a negative judgement on the current path of PINK. It is simply a different path, quite away from the original, in which the same values that granted the inclusion simply don't apply anymore.

EDIT TO ADD:

As of today, October 27th, 2014, the public thread of The Revamped Pinkcoin (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=624017.0) has been closed and a new, self-moderated (censored) one has been started: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=836929.0 to try and silence the inconvenient posts about the shady dealings of the dev team members of Pink Coin. All of it is amply documented in the original thread linked here and also in a new thread, THE CASE OF PINK COIN here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=836929.0
2839  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: THE WALL OF SHAME on: June 14, 2014, 12:43:13 AM
No, IconicExpert, at this stage everyone knows very well, including this asshole, so I am not doing anything to prove what everyone knows.

For some reason that I can only suspect -follow orders- he chooses this thread to spew his vitriol about you, when it would be so easy for him to do it in your twitter, so we all know he does know. Enough of that shit anyways. He may post anything he wants here, just like anyone. I just like anyone who so chooses, will simply ignore him.
2840  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: THE WALL OF SHAME on: June 14, 2014, 12:33:15 AM
VERICOIN

Yes, vericoin. In the Wall of Shame. Reason? They simply don't play fair. They randomly  kick out any poster from their IRC channel if the question, even minimally, the procedures, let alone criticize anything. Just not acceptable.

There are other red lights too. Extreme arrogance on the part of some of the mods AND their self-proclaimed media front man, which serves the coin and the community very poorly. That is inappropriate behavior in a coin, but specially in a new coin that has, technically, the interesting traces of one that could actually "make it".

A very deep change in behaviors, along with TOTAL transparency, is needed there.

Shameful.

Edit for accuracy: The dev PM me to tell me that the charges couldn't be right because the thread is not moderated. It appears so and I haven't corroborated the charges made by one poster that claimed his part of a post had been deleted, so, for now, that particular charge is erased.

What cannot be erased and I was a witness of myself is the arrogant attitude and blatant censorship exercised in the IRC channel, specifically by the mod "pcmerc". The dev pretends that only "racist" comments are invited to "tone down". Again, no racist comments at all and this mod ejected one poster that was questioning the presence in the VRC IRC channel of known followers or Blackcoin and Libertycoin such as "BlackHanhasdrake" and "BlackhandAfrikanos" as well as "Gatti". The media front-man was also present and witness of the incident.

Censorship of any kind and corresponding lack of transparence, gain an entrance in this wall. And while I have no problem admitting errors, when they occur, I will hold the people responsible for dictatorship behavior that I have personally witnessed.  



You were kicked for running your mouth. The channel is freely open to anyone. Just because you don't care for some individuals in the channel doesn't mean you have a right to drop your diarrhea of the mouth in the channel. Talk to them directly through pm or in the relative channels to the topic you are bitching about, which was blackcoin, libertycoin & whatever else you choose to stir up problems for.

Talk all the shit you like. My track record speaks loudly for me. I help a lot of people & get nothing in return. I do it to because I like to help. What do you do besides run your mouth?

Do you compile wallets that people need or anything outside of just the diarrhea that drips out of your mouth?


pcmerc~


No, the channel is NOT freely open to anyone. It is open to anyone who conforms with whatever the fuck you choose to decide you will allow or not, which is quite different and is as simple as arbitrary censorship, little man. The individuals in question had already had quite despicable behavior, completely unrelated to VRC -or any other coin- offering "cock", among quite a few other niceties, to a female guest... all of which, by the way, did not seemed to disturb you at all for you never intervened. Now when those individuals were simply questioned as for their motivation to be there -following a behavior of disruption such as the one they staged inside the Libertycoin channel, so it was not a capricious questioning at all- you, without any warning, bumped off the "offender". Why? Rhetorical question, I am not interested in any answer from you. Your behavior is poison in crypto and should not be tolerated. Certainly it will be condemned here and pointed out for what it is: SHAMEFUL.

You're nobody. You're opinions & views mean nothing.


pcmerc~

Speaking for yourself, of course. And it makes a lot of sense for I , unlike you, illiterate, do know the difference between you're and your. Quite an ass-et for the Vericoin community, you are indeed.

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