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3221  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does martingale really works? on: September 18, 2015, 06:40:59 PM
Yeah , It works if you have Infinite Money

Dude, are you serious? Like are you serious now? This post has 87 pages and you have the courage to post that stupid shit? NO IT DOES NOT WORK EVEN WITH INFINITE MONEY BECAUSE OF CASINO BETTING LIMITS, i mean if you want to increase your post count dont be so fucking obvious.

I just hope he actually believes the crap he's posting and tries it out at one of the casinos I have a bankroll investment in, Smiley.
3222  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: I have 0.02 btc , want to invest on: September 18, 2015, 09:09:14 AM
but it is the same in real stocks...you do not know what people will do..

Have you ever bought a real stock before? Public companies generally have 100+ page documents that detail where they are bringing income from, market analyses, personal information on the public figures, etc. You are providing nothing. We still don't even know how your site earns money. You claim it's not a ponzi, but that you're not using the money for anything and the value goes "up" as more invest. That is literally a ponzi.
3223  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetterBets.io |Win XBOX or PS4| Weekly Rake+VIP| DICE★PLINKO★HORSE RACING on: September 18, 2015, 06:31:17 AM
with so many tickets already out there this raffle is gonna be tough for any smaller bettors to win. no way to catch up to the amount of tickets some users have gained in the past week

You are definitely wrong on this steveds  Smiley. It doesnt matter wether there are lots of ticket there because it is purely luck and not every ticket will go into the raffle as some may save their tickets for next month or the month after. Either way it is pretty easy to collect tickets  Wink

It does matter, as that's how much of a chance you have. That's like saying it doesn't matter how many people are playing bingo because anyone can win. If there are 1000 people, you have a 0.1% chance. If there are two, you have a 50% chance. In the case of BB, if you have 1k tickets allocated and others have 99k, you have a 1% chance. If you have 1k and they have 999k, you have 0.1% chance.
3224  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: I have 0.02 btc , want to invest on: September 18, 2015, 03:58:25 AM
@winspiral
unless you have a legit plan for the money and not just asking for investors one after another to pay the previous one, nobody would trust you.

This. I personally require a business plan, unless it's a fairly small investment and I feel like the potential upside is worth the risk of complete loss. In any real investment, though, I'd require a full business plan ahead of time to vet out.
3225  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: I have 0.02 btc , want to invest on: September 18, 2015, 03:44:12 AM
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Your investment system is still little bit shady.
Actually where you can earn money for pay share to investor? Invest in a "start-up" Huh

Do you have certainly heard about faucets?

most of them are not scams.

With my investment system it is almost the same principle but the site is not a faucet but a investment site.

And because we are at the start of the site,I talk about a start-up.

if you anlyze what one can analyse you see that the profit is so far very low,but increasing.

As I said otherwhere,the first investors are the pionneers...

it is why I ...so far do not say:
invest in an old-site but in a start-up.

I only say "no-rick" to lose...I do not talk about how much profit will be made.

My plan id for all the people who have speeping satoshi on their wallet.
In 100 days many people will say:
it were been better if I had invested in winspiral's start-up...because during the 100 days i have earnt nothing and with winspiral's system i has few satoshi more...
i do not say more and all the discussion comes because I have read here to "absolute" word saying that all investment are risky or ponzi or what you want...
i just said:
no risk no lost only profit.
Why discuss about what I say and what I contest here about your "all are..."

If you contest my saying it is why you believe I'm a scammer...
here is said all risky...and I say no-risk.
we cannot all be right...
i'm and right or wrong and the other party is the opposit.

The problematick for you is not to know from where I have the dividends...
The problematick for you is to get dividends.


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ok. lets assume it is not ponzi.
what is this "start-up" you are talking abou?
where do you invest all the money (investment) that comes to you which will allow you to return profit to your investors?

I talked about the start-up (it's the investment site it-self who will increase...)
Where do i invest all the money from the investors?
I do not invest it...
As I explained it other where it is only to fix the "at prorata" for the dividends.
I could do it for free...but if I do it  for free,i cannot fix the "at prorata"

The start-up is now 20 days old...let time to people to analyse the system and we will see what the "market" will do.
You have already what you need to take a choice.
As said...if only one investor...he will take alone all the dividends.
this will attract other investors...except if the only one investor invest to much...but this is his problem not mine.

I said you:
follow the pending investment graphic...
if the investment will fall down...the ROI will be high...
be sure...the market will then invest.
You cannot go against the market.


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i think you seriously need to read this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponzi_scheme

I have read and my system has nothing to see with a ponzi sheme.









After reading your post (I've also been to your site, but found it confusing and 90s-style in its look), I still don't get what you're using the money for. All you keep saying is if people pay, they will get dividends. Dividends from where? NOTHING is risk-free. You give your money to a federally-insured bank, and you're still taking a risk.
3226  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] HaoBTC, mining dividend paid out hourly on: September 18, 2015, 03:40:40 AM
So how do we get one of those fancy sticker?  Smiley

wow that amazing idea to give moon cakes,, but 50BTC is'nt a smalla amount, maybe i wil use it some btc Smiley
im interesting to try your wallet

It's not a wallet, it's more like a savings account.  You deposit btc to your HaoBTC account from one of your wallets and watch the bitcoins roll in!  I only have a little in my account at the moment, but it's like free microearnings the way I look at it, until I deposit more.

There wasn't a fee when I withdrew, either (not sure if there is now) so that was a positive, Smiley.
3227  Economy / Digital goods / Re: [WTS] Youtube Account with 4k subs, gaming related, 500k views, active subs! on: September 18, 2015, 03:39:16 AM
the price is quite high for me, can you lower the price? and are you sure the account isnt banned from using adsense?
Well hit me with an offer but i cant go too low. Yeah here are the screenshots.





I do want to point out (just for clarity) that the account is very UNlikely to be hit with a copyright infringement "strike" until monetization is enabled, so that's not something that in and of itself helps give information.

YouTube also sucks on that end. I had a game company email me permission to use their game in a video. YouTube gave me a strike for it. I got a written letter from the game publisher and sent it to YouTube, and they striked me a second time for a second video from the same game. Contacted YouTube and they said even with the game publisher's permission to post a video (written/explicit), it's still copyright infringement.

I've been hit for multiple games now, all of which have given permission to use them beforehand.

I'm just sharing this as it's a gaming channel. When it's monetized, you open a whole flood of new issues and YouTube will do anything in their power to strike you down so they can keep all the income.
3228  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetterBets.io |Win XBOX or PS4| Weekly Rake+VIP| DICE★PLINKO★HORSE RACING on: September 18, 2015, 01:09:22 AM
I will try reach over 10k tickets by the drawing time.

If you bet everyday and wager big then it is easy to win the tickets but if you are only betting dust then it is longer to collect that, with the new LF it is guarantee 20 tickets so it will be easier and can reach over 10k.

I was able to get a combined raffle ticket of 9000 so far but on 3 accounts. This from betting in the 10k sat to 0.2 btc range. If you are playing for tickets then just use long lasting bot strategies it helps.

This is also good for the cashback rewards, Smiley. So it's a win-win all-around, even if you lose a bit in the process.
3229  Economy / Digital goods / AdWords (Spend $150 and Get $150 Free Credit) on: September 17, 2015, 10:38:07 PM
Hey all! I have two of these coupons available. They expire at the end of September and only one can be used per AdWords account.

If anyone wants one, let me know. Giving them away for free (though I wouldn't mind a tip and/or +rep, :p).
3230  Economy / Services / Re: 1 BTC for the first person that cracks this on: September 17, 2015, 03:07:14 AM
This competition ends in about 3 hours according to those links posted on the previous page. If im not mistaken, no one has cracked it yet and i guess thats the point. To prove that it cant be cracked hence the high reward. Will update later on any new info. Cheers.

The funny part is that if it's related to cryptos, if someone DID crack it and wanted money, they'd make much more acting like they didn't and just cracking other addresses instead.
3231  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: I have 0.02 btc , want to invest on: September 17, 2015, 02:43:09 AM
Dont invest with that.ust sit on it and build it up to more., 1 bitcoin is probably the minimum to invest whilst 0.1 for gambling

so you recomended to invest at gambling site ? reallly ?
Im not agree with you, that very high risk

gambling is last thing to do for investing.

Technically, any investment you make is classified as gambling -- it could go up or down, and you're hoping you're lucky and it goes up. So really, they're the same, Smiley.

It would be a stupid investment as you know odds are against you.   That being said I think there are a lot that do gamble.  I honestly don't get it.   

I guess gambling is not my thing I have been to Vegas multiple times without gambling.  I guess I am just a different mindset.

I'm not really a gambler, either. And investing in startups is the same mindset -- 95%+ of them fail, you're just hoping one of them you bet on (invested in) doesn't and compensates for all the rest that did.
3232  Economy / Digital goods / Re: [WTS] Walmart Gift Cards - $10, $20 or higher - 40% rate on: September 17, 2015, 12:05:40 AM
Interested, how long do these last? Can use them within a hr if needed...
It's recommended to use them within 24 hours. The quicker you get your item, the better.


I'm assuming these are physical cards that are being emailed to us? If so, then we should be able to use these at SAMs club gas pumps, right? If so then you've got my business!
These are eGift cards that you can add to your own walmart account or take the email to the store and have them scan the code.

Why is there a 24-hour "best used by" date? How are you sourcing these?
3233  Economy / Digital goods / Re: [WTS] Youtube Account with 4k subs, gaming related, 500k views, active subs! on: September 17, 2015, 12:03:46 AM
Is this channel already monetized with any advertising company? Is this channel is banned from google adsense for any reason or any videos are flagged for copy write infringement? These details also important for buyer. And can you send your channel link and what is the price your looking for? 

Channel is not monetized with any advertising company and is open to any advertising company you wish to work with. Also. the channel was never linked to google adsense and it's open for setting it up easily.
Never had a copyright infringement and copyright status is in a good standing.

Channel link : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzPemh_kh-5YYxJrFATBB6w
Price 300$

Just wanted to drop in and say that based on stats, that's a pretty good price, for anyone looking, Smiley.
3234  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] HYPER ~ Game Currency ~ ON CNBC ~ Twitch.tv ~ ShapeShift.io ~RPG + More! on: September 16, 2015, 11:55:58 PM
Progress with the 7 days to die server.

I started working on a website for it. The website will be a dashboard where you can register and check your stats from the server.
It will show your player kills, zombie kills, deaths, score, bounty, etc. There will be a leaderboard that ranks all players on server that are registered. Also there will be a chatbox where you can chat with other users.

The dashboard will not take long to finish probably. I already made it for a old game faucet I made awhile ago(Don't have source for game anymore), so I just have to modify it to work for this.


Game can be bought with HYPER here!
Thanks for the link! I didn't know they had 7d2d on there.

You can also get the game time from here. It's $22.49 (286.26 HYPER right now) for 60 days.
3235  Economy / Gambling / Re: ░▒▓ [SoftLaunch] SharpDice -- 0.1% House Edge, Auto-Bot, MoneyPot powered! ░▒▓ on: September 16, 2015, 10:57:39 PM
Checkout our new Trivia Hour we're setting up! Smiley
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1175661.0

Great news! But you don't have any times listed yet. Are you going to be posting with the schedule ahead of time?
Yes, but both Dogedigital and I were busy the past weekend... we will most likely host one this weekend!  They should be posted a couple days ahead of time, if we are having it then... but we might also be sneaky and post it on the day of... just look out Wink

Will do. I'm pretty active around here so if it's posted at least a couple hours prior, I should see it, Smiley.
3236  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does martingale really works? on: September 16, 2015, 10:55:20 PM
Everyone who has been a part of any gambling site must have tried martingale. so i just wanted to know your experience that have u ever gained profit from martingale? or its name should be changed to martinfail?

Lol yeah indeed, it should be renamed to martinfail Cheesy I have tried martingale several times and always lose while using that method
 It really doesn't work, let's just depend on luck

Just like gambling in general, that is why we do it.  With Martingale you are more likely to win in the short term than anything else.  The problem is no one is good at the short term and eventually, you get beat.  It is going to happen!

But you are not really more likely to win at short time, if you could always win at short term then you should win at long term too and that is not possible.

That is the gamblers fallacy.  Just because you win in the short term does not mean you are going to win long term.  This is why casinos have a house edge.  You might win in the start, the more and more you play the more likely you are to get some bad streaks/or equal to the house edge.  You are definitely more likely to win in the short term at Martingale, but if you hit 1 big lose streak, game over!

It's also worth noting you can have the bad streak in the beginning, so it's not even a viable short-term plan.
3237  Economy / Gambling / Re: SwCpoker.eu | No Banking, Only Bitcoin | Bitcoin Poker 2.0 LIVE NOW! on: September 16, 2015, 09:08:10 PM
Hello.
I am having an issue with the software. I downloaded the latest version from the site and installed it.
The software opens but doesnt go any further then the login window.
I deleted and tried again and still doesnt work. I also emailed support but it's been a while and no response from them.
Is there anything you guys can suggest or help with ?
Regards
Duke
2 ways in mind:
1)Open it as Administrator
2)Compatibility to Windows 7 or XP.

It could also be a firewall issue (which would explain why it opens but doesn't go past login).
3238  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: ★ Key4co.in ★ || INSTANT || BTC, LTC, DOGE, DASH, HYPER on: September 16, 2015, 09:05:04 PM
30 more minutes to get amnesia for free on steam!
I've searched up "Amnesia" on your website but it can't seem to find anything with that. Is this a bug? Or am I doing something wrong?
Sorry for the misunderstanding, we should have phrased it better. Amnesia was free on Steam, not on Key4coin, sadly you missed the timeframe in which one was able to add it to his library for free. Now it is 3.99$, we can get it for you if you still want it.

Sincerly

It was too late when he posted anyways. I found out about it sooner, luckily, so already snagged it, Smiley. Thanks for making a post here though!
3239  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: I have 0.02 btc , want to invest on: September 16, 2015, 08:19:58 PM
Dont invest with that.ust sit on it and build it up to more., 1 bitcoin is probably the minimum to invest whilst 0.1 for gambling

so you recomended to invest at gambling site ? reallly ?
Im not agree with you, that very high risk

gambling is last thing to do for investing.

Technically, any investment you make is classified as gambling -- it could go up or down, and you're hoping you're lucky and it goes up. So really, they're the same, Smiley.
3240  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] Purse.io - Bitcoin Amazon Marketplace - Save ~10-25% on Amazon Wishlist on: September 16, 2015, 06:07:09 PM
Please check this reddit post when a guy had trouble with police since he bought in amazon through purse.io
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2po40d/since_my_house_is_being_searched_right_now_small/

In reading the thread, it seems that was a pretty unique situation and in Europe as well. I have not heard any issues since and none in the USA.

To sum it up: for which party is it a bigger risk to use Purse? Buyer or seller?

In Europe or the US?

I have heard about issues in the US before as well.

The person who receives items is the biggest risk, since the funds used to purchase it could be illegal (meaning police are likely to suspect that you're the one carding since you're the one who benefits). It's rare, though, I'd think.

That is correct. Purse.io really should allow spenders to chose some minimum settings for buyers. Only those meeting those criterias can buy for you. For example i would set that i only chose buyers who had at least 3 successful trades 1 month ago. That will make it nearly impossible that he used carded funds.

But then... it could be still gamed. For example buying correctly at the start, with some anonymous prepaid virtual credit card. But it would lower the risk a lot i think.

It's a tough thing, because how would they get the successful trades to begin with? They would need to do trades that are risky (or someone would need to trust them in the beginning). I'll brainstorm this a bit and see if I can come up with a good way to handle it.

I know, new buyers would have a problem. Though for the spenders it would be good. They would not need to care about newbie buyers. Though they might lose some buyer who would buy their wishlist for a higher discount that way. It would be up to them to chose what they prefer.

At the end, i think, there still would be enough users that would allow newbies as buyers. Especially if it is the default setting.

That's true -- wasn't thinking about it like a toggle thing. That's essentially how eBay works as well, in that you can disregard bids from accounts under x age, accounts outside x country, or with less than x trades.
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