Full block chain mobile clients won't become popular, because downloading the block chain is pain in the ass. Just my two bitcents.
I agree if you only have an iphone around and you have been waiting a long time for a native wallet then it's easy for me to note that you don't really know how a thin client works. I actually have both, iphone and android, around so i've been using the bitcoin app with android for quite some time, few months. I can say it's awesome fast downloading blocks, a month for example downloads in 5-10 seconds, easy to work with and doesn't depend on any central server either. I only hope iphone will get equal or better user experience with this app or future ones because we need to get bitcoin mobile by any means. |
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wow, nice work ppl and kudos to you sadpandatech  the letter is great but i only have one issue, can we move the bit-pay paragraph a bit lower ? For a first contact with bitcoin, from this letter, you get the impression it depends on a central service and i'm sure we don't want that. Switching the bit-pay paragraph with the one that contains "We Use Coins" should be fine. My two Satoshis. |
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nice |
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Awesome! Now we know that bitcoin clients _can_ be approved.
However I'm not very fond of mobile clients which download the full block chain. Electrum-style thin client would be the best solution IMHO.
yeah, then use server-centric clients and leave the p2p for real supporters |
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nice story, agree with altuin it's hard to remember who is who heh
You made me remember at the end of it how people were different not too long ago, especially those who lived in rural areas. They used to let you in their home and treat you like another member of their family giving you food, shelter or whatever was needed for almost nothing.
I was to young to remember all the details but i think they lived better than us today, their money worthed something, like my grandfather used to say.
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Trusted Key = IMPORT
Untrusted Key = SWEEP
Agreed. But for above-mentioned reasons, all keys that have been swept should be kept hidden in an advanced interface somewhere, where you can periodically (or automatically) check and see if funds have been added to any of them. +1 sounds nice |
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 oh and if anyone is free and has nothing to do if they could explain the process of bitcoin to me and how it work would be great cause i still confused on it DX ~andy ^_^Browse around the site, there is TONS of info and if you have a few hours you will more than likely find all the answers your looking for...we were all new at some point (i still am) and so the more you read the more you know. Good luck dude +1 |
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yep agree with DeathAndTaxes, maybe we should think that any priv key is more like a prepaid card. The company or vendor that made the card know the priv code and you only have to scratch the protecting film to redeem the value.
In theory you could save the card in case they send any amount of value in the future but we know that isn't the reality. Every time i refill my mobile credit, that card is trashed or guarded few days just in case. Same thing could be done with "untrusted" priv keys, save them in a separate cache file that you can purge regularly.
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El caso es que si dejo el campo avatar de second life vacío no me deja crear una cuenta.
ah, pues no lo sabia, aunque he comprado varias veces atraves de ellos. Tenia una cuenta SL desde muchisimo antes que conocer bitcoin. |
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no, añades fondos a tu cuenta virwox con paypal u otro medio, compras dolares linden (moneda del juego SecondLife, EUR/SLL) y luego haces el mismo proceso para conseguir bitcoins (SLL/BTC)
Vaya hombre... Hace falta tener un avatar de Second Life, creo que voy a desestimar esta opción... te comento, no hace falta tener una cuenta en Second Life, ahy esta lo bueno, solo en virwox que es una casa de cambio como todas las demas. |
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o si quieres mas rapidez puedes comprar primero Linden Dolars y luego convertirlos a bitcoins con paypal en https://www.virwox.com. Oh, puede ser interesante, ¿en esta web puedo comprar directamente $BTC? no, añades fondos a tu cuenta virwox con paypal u otro medio, compras dolares linden (moneda del juego SecondLife, EUR/SLL) y luego haces el mismo proceso para conseguir bitcoins (SLL/BTC) En https://mtgox.com tienes que enviar tu documentación para que tu cuenta sea verificada antes de hacer un deposito por eso es lo mas lento que hay. Y la ultima seria en persona cerca de tu ciudad. Ya hay alguna gente que compra y vende bitcoins en España. ¿Sabes cuál puede ser la comisión por depósito? si, ninguna por parte de ellos si envias USD y 2.5% si reciben cualquier otra moneda y tienen que hacer ellos el cambio a dolares. Se que tienen cambios de BTC a varias monedas pero no explican la manera, o no me he enterado yo, como añadir fondos en otra moneda diferente a USD, como por ejemplo Euros. |
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Right now, due to encryption there seems to be no way to add a vanity address (is there?). I'd also be fine with a revert encryption option to turn it off so pywallet could once again be used to import, and then turn on encryption again. I personally don't mind using an "advanced" tool but I'm irritated that there is no way to import a vanity address now.
there is a way to import keys using pywallet... link |
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Hola, soy nuevo por aquí.
Me gustaría comprar algunos bitcoins para iniciarme en esto de los bitcoins. El caso es que no doy con ninguna fórmula para conseguir bitcoins en españa. bitcoin.com.es no responde al correo-e, dialcoin no funciona en España, y otras que he visto o cobran grandes comisiones o bien no me fío demasiado.
¿Qué me aconsejáis?
hola, muy buenas pues depende mucho de la prisa que tengas. Si puedes esperar para el tiempo que haga falta para que una transferencia bancaria en la euro zona (SEPA) se haga efectiva podrias utilizar https://intersango.com o si quieres mas rapidez puedes comprar primero Linden Dolars y luego convertirlos a bitcoins con paypal en https://www.virwox.com. En https://mtgox.com tienes que enviar tu documentación para que tu cuenta sea verificada antes de hacer un deposito por eso es lo mas lento que hay. Y la ultima seria en persona cerca de tu ciudad. Ya hay alguna gente que compra y vende bitcoins en España. Espero que te sirva de algo mi respuesta  |
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I believe that HFT pump and dump bots cause the instability of Bitcoin price. Why don't we just make Bitcoin a decentralized fiat currency with greater stability?
good question... but how ? |
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meh, whatever |
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The point still remains, I would like some help figuring out what services to create for you all, and no there is condescending meanings as the service is not for me, it would be for you all.
hang around, you will have your eureka moment for sure |
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I disagree. I think bots are exceptional at rapidly converging on a correct price.
Also, don't think of a bot as a bad thing if you are a trader. A bot is an algorithm written by someone who has to predict how to predict what way a price is going. If you ever played an RTS game against a bot, you will realize they don't have any intuition or smarts. They will always do the same thing over and over. Predict what the bots will do, and you win. Good luck trying to predict what the humans will do.
One more sane and smart person in the thread :-) Indeed bots are useful, and anyway could be outperformed by human if needed. Agree with you ppl, bots are good but not in all situations. Sooner or later we will have a "humans only" exchange, i'm sure about that, because we have real bad "response times" when compared to automated programs and feel a lot more comfortable trading with equals. You are sure about that? Let me know when it appears. I would like to set up my bot on it. It will just trade at whatever the exchange rate is on gox. If you try to filter it out with a captcha, there is a fine automated turk that will help me with that. The irony of using a human to serve a machine to serve a human to undercut other humans is too sweet to miss. If you really want a human only exchange, you need to go here: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/In_Person_TradersI suspect that they all just use the bot derived price from their cell phones though. I will you can bet on that but be warned that it will have a 1 transaction/minute limit enabled for every trader/ip, so your bot will trade just like a human without taking advantage of sub-second orders on the platform  the only real advantage you will have is watch some movies or go out with you girlfriend while tirelessly trading bitcoins, nothing more if you don't get my point from this post i really give up for not being able to explain what i really mean. |
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I disagree. I think bots are exceptional at rapidly converging on a correct price.
Also, don't think of a bot as a bad thing if you are a trader. A bot is an algorithm written by someone who has to predict how to predict what way a price is going. If you ever played an RTS game against a bot, you will realize they don't have any intuition or smarts. They will always do the same thing over and over. Predict what the bots will do, and you win. Good luck trying to predict what the humans will do.
One more sane and smart person in the thread :-) Indeed bots are useful, and anyway could be outperformed by human if needed. Agree with you ppl, bots are good but not in all situations. Sooner or later we will have a "humans only" exchange, i'm sure about that, because we have real bad "response times" when compared to automated programs and feel a lot more comfortable trading with equals. |
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... everyone should be in the same conditions (thus have same access time).
exactly, ppl will wake up sooner than you think regarding trading bots. I only want equal conditions with all other traders without some real fast bots interfering with the market. The best analogy are on line games where some players use scripts for better aiming or see through walls, like OGC in HalfLife. Yes, I'm completely aware that we have some real smart individuals around that write those scripts and use them. That doesn't mean they can't use their creativity edge for other purposes when bitcoiners will let them understand that cheats are not wanted. When a real alternative to mtgox platform surfaces we will see how bots get along when no humans are left to play their game. |
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I placed several buy orders on MtGox last night which were clearly above market, inside plenty of bid orders as shown on MtGoxLive. I was amazed that I didn't get filled, and instead it moves the market to my offer. It is as if someone is seeing the order flow before orders are processed, and cancelling their orders on the order book before they're lifted. (MtGoxLive updated to show my bid, so it hadn't stalled) It may be a high frequency trading expert has cornered the bitcoin market. This is very bad for everyone, as it means the bid / ask spread will be much wider than you think when anyone trades. At the moment, most people are ignorant of the cost of HF trading manipulation because it's so hidden. eg. http://ftalphaville.ft.com/blog/2011/12/19/797701/alphachat-sal-arnuk-on-high-frequency-trading/ It's effectively using inside information to front run your trade. Here's a proposal to make it harder : exchanges only allow trading every 30 seconds. You place orders whenever, they get filled using an auction mechanism every 30 seconds where the market gets filled the best bid / ask price below/above their order. Think of it like decimalisation of time. It should also help reduce volatility. Please can someone make this? I'll pledge some BTC, I'm tired of paying huge BTC transaction fees. +1, i vote for a no-HFT exchange, we had a few threads talking on the subject already, i pledge some btc too |
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