This isn't trolling, fool, this is a public service warning to anyone stupid enough
I did a cursory examination of your posting history on this forum and it is apparent that you are using it solely as a venue to launch personal attacks against anyone unlucky enough to find themselves within range. Your modus operandi is to re-hash existing conversations and use them as a vehicle to abuse your victims. At this point I have written off any benefit to reading your posts and I strongly encourage others on this board to do the same. lol, you obviously need to relax a bit and really get to know LoupGaroux. I trust more in his word than yours atm |
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@bitdragon thanks for you kind words, we obviously have a long road ahead of us to reach that level of understanding and helping help each other  |
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I wanted to ask if you use(d) bitcoinica service.
Sorry for my bad english.
no, i don't speculate with my money. np i don't speak very well either |
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You 'don't feel like commenting on his post right now.' but you have the time to file a legal complaint against Bitcoinica?
Really dude, so immature, cmon.
And you want people to take you seriously.
Strange world, isn't it ? I just found you allow bitconica to use your services, so, are you prepared to take a hit in case they fail somehow ? Yes I am preprated, however that is not your concern. I've asked you countless time to please respond to the article written about you above, and you've repeatedly ignored us and ignored our comments. Great, i'm glad you do. No need to bold your phrase, i didn't get what do you really want me to do, comment on genjix blog or tell my thoughts about his post. @bitdragon glad you think that way. Nope, i don't think i will be working with bitpay real soon, giving that Yankee has chosen to judge me for filing a complaint against an obscure service like bitcoinica. |
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You 'don't feel like commenting on his post right now.' but you have the time to file a legal complaint against Bitcoinica?
Really dude, so immature, cmon.
And you want people to take you seriously.
Strange world, isn't it ? I just found you allow bitconica to use your services, so, are you prepared to take a hit in case they fail somehow ? |
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watching, interesting idea
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Amazon Payments, Inc. d/b/a TextPayMe
410 Terry Avenue North
Seattle, WA 98109
I can't help but think Amazon.com may be Satoshi Nakamoto: - they have a history of butting heads with regulators - they operate a very high volume business on very slim margins - they certainly see half their profit margin going to the banks - they have a history of technical innovation It would make sense to me that they would put a team of bright people on the task of inventing a better payment system that would allow them to bypass the banks and dramatically improve their bottom line. When they worked out how to it, they would have realized they could never just launch such a thing themselves (bringing the ire of the bankers and the politicians they own down upon them). So, instead they come up with plan b…put it out there and nuture it until such time as it's clear that it can survive on its own, then back away…wait a few years until the world gets over all it's qualms about the technology…then start using it. their service is called TextPayMe, right, they have any mention about decentralized e-currency in there or something ? |
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This is going out of hand, i'm locking this thread until further notice  |
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@Otoh great, i send it to you as requested so posting it here doesn't matter, it's already in the OP.
Do you mind removing my email from your post ?
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Maybe a good idea is to not use USD as the quote currency anymore.
EUR can be a option i live in Europe and tell you EUR is not an option, ECB is pulling the strings |
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Anyone who does business with this guy would be highly unethical. He has used the law (which exists to protect customers) as a commercial weapon. He has a conflict of interest. It is when companies (and large corporations) use the law in this manner that a society becomes corrupt. This guy is a promoter of corruption. http://bitcoinmedia.com/bitcoinica-legal-complaint/you just lost a reader... and any trace of trust i had in your words, good moments reading your blog btw. Maybe you can fix the spelling on it and the fact that i didn't file the complaint against the Spanish authorities, but with them. Do you mind commenting or responding to what he wrote? Just saying 'spelling mistakes' dosent make his post not credible. You've yet to respond (Please dont point me to another post you've responded in, write it here) right in the first phrase: paraipan has filed a legal complaint with the Spanish authorities i don't feel like commenting on his post right now. @psy and RaggedMonk i have you ignored for attacking me personally, you can find me on #bitcoin or #bitcoin-otc if you want to chat or something |
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Anyone who does business with this guy would be highly unethical. He has used the law (which exists to protect customers) as a commercial weapon. He has a conflict of interest. It is when companies (and large corporations) use the law in this manner that a society becomes corrupt. This guy is a promoter of corruption. http://bitcoinmedia.com/bitcoinica-legal-complaint/you just lost a reader... and any trace of trust i had in your words, good moments reading your blog btw. Maybe you can fix the spelling on it and the fact that i didn't file the complaint against the Spanish authorities, but with them. @teflone i will if they prescribe me some, one day |
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I have lived in Spain a long time & if I can be bothered then in the interests of openness & full disclosure that the OP seems so keen on I shall ask my contacts here if what I suspect is true, that denuncias are documents in the public domain & so one can request a copy of them without the OP's redactions & I will then happily post it here, 2 of my contacts are female black belt lawyers  edit: copy would be requested through intermediaries  i will happily provide you an unedited copy, no need to contact third parties for that. "Denuncia", complaint can be made public if the complainer choses too, guarding his privacy. |
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The emails even violate our values because they interfere with the use of private property. When I saw this I wondered if the Judge could possibly elaborate on it. +1 |
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The thing is we're on the same boat, and if it takes water we all go down, looking into another direction isn't an option only addressing the issue.
... And people wonder why I want to opt out... ... because you keep seeing it as your own boat |
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This complaint for legal investigation has been put into Mtgox attention today with a support ticket.
What in the fuck does this have to do with MtGox? What is this I don't even Rocking the boat some more eh ? Bitcoinica uses Mtgox services (trading platform, mtgox codes), i hoped you guys saw this one. How is Gox supposed to track which codes were exchanged person to person, and which were exchanged through Bitcoinica? Seems like that complaint will be as effective as complaining to Spain about a site in Asia. mtgox already tracks internally it's codes. Bitcoinica has it's own codes that need to follow the same procedure. Spain has laws that include economic on-line services outside it's frontiers. Bitcoinica.com is hosted in US, Texas so it has to comply with laws and regulations there too not only in the country where they registered.  Quoting zhoutong from other thread ...
No. We will not operate the business in the United States, nor will we respond to requests outside of our operating jurisdiction.
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This complaint for legal investigation has been put into Mtgox attention today with a support ticket.
What in the fuck does this have to do with MtGox? What is this I don't even Rocking the boat some more eh ? Bitcoinica uses Mtgox services (trading platform, mtgox codes), i hoped you guys saw this one. |
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Paraipan,
The only time I have ever posted anything negative about someone on the forums was in regards to Tom Williams.
This will be the second time.
People like you are exactly what is wrong with the world.
Bitcoinica hasn't hurt anyone, so you should mind your own business.
If you don't trust Bitcoinica, don't use them, but don't try to use men with guns to block the rest of us from doing business with whoever we want.
Please spend some time reading some books on economics, and morality.
It will change your view of the world, and make you a better person.
Thanks for the advice dude, i will consider it The thing is we're on the same boat, and if it takes water we all go down, looking into another direction isn't an option only addressing the issue. I will appreciate you enabling the logic "chips" of your brain and reconsider your position, any help is appreciated. |
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@zhoutong thanks for answering some questions. Can you show us some paperwork on bitcoinica.com, like company registration with the local authorities, and your position in the company ? Contract or similar will do, you can blackout very sensitive information.
Who else works at bitcoinica.com ? Can you provide some relevant information in the public domain on the issues above ?
I have already promised to release this information, but not now due to our on-going process of corporate re-organization. We just developed the account verification system today. It's fine if you proceed with whatever you're doing. But your compliant is definitely invalid according to our current status. The requested information had to be made public in the first place. I will not withdraw my complaint without you making a public announcement presenting your company public information. The validity of my complaint is not of your duties to decide. Can you refrain only answering some of my questions please, who else works at/with bitcoinica.com ? No, I will not answer your questions from now on. We will focus on finalizing our KYC stuff for compliance. All the information you asked for will be released in public when we're ready to. It's an important strategic move for us, and we want to be extremely careful about every big change we make. I don't care about your complaint. The Board has already approved a re-organization of the company, and Bitcoinica will operate in neither United States nor Singapore. We care more about our clients' responses towards our KYC requirements and how the public will react to the financial services provider status we have got. We are 100% confident that what we are doing is fully legal and ethical. A legal complaint from a random guy doesn't change what we are doing right now. ok, i understand. I am only spending more time in here trying to keep an elaborate conversation with you just in case i was wrong and a withdrawal of my complaint was needed after you proved bitcoinica.com being legal and compliant. I'm 100% confident that you are and wait forward for you to prove it to your users and "random guys", in any way you see fit. Is this contact info correct ? support@bitcoinica.com+1 (408) 899-5564 This complaint for legal investigation has been put into Mtgox attention today with a support ticket. |
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@zhoutong thanks for answering some questions. Can you show us some paperwork on bitcoinica.com, like company registration with the local authorities, and your position in the company ? Contract or similar will do, you can blackout very sensitive information.
Who else works at bitcoinica.com ? Can you provide some relevant information in the public domain on the issues above ?
I have already promised to release this information, but not now due to our on-going process of corporate re-organization. We just developed the account verification system today. It's fine if you proceed with whatever you're doing. But your compliant is definitely invalid according to our current status. The requested information had to be made public in the first place. I will not withdraw my complaint without you making a public announcement presenting your company public information. The validity of my complaint is not of your duties to decide. Can you refrain only answering some of my questions please, who else works at/with bitcoinica.com ? |
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