I read through this whole thread  nice, now you have the other 99.99% of the forum left  |
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Hmm, how are people going to pay with bitcoin, if the network is blocked until they do so ?  (Assuming one does not have a mobile wallet with a few coins) I can imagine two ways: 1. Seller allows free use of traffic that looks like Bitcoin for X hours/MAC (most people won't change their MAC address) 2. Buyer creates an offline signed transaction, sends to seller there is an easier solution that avoids all that headaches 1. You allow any person to have bitcoin connectivity. The portal would allow only port 8333 connection to a bitcoind daemon until the client pays. It's safe for the bitcoind daemon because the portal establishes ssl/tls connections to make json-rpc requests and for the client too because he can update his block-chain and pay you the coins. The AP owner would be interested being on and serving the longest blockchain, the good one, because if not the coins he receives could be worthless and the client would not have to trust the AP owner because his client already includes some blockchain hashes including the entire genesis block. It's on the wiki All this has a side effect... anyone could use the bitcoin infrastructure for free and that means you will never be left without connectivity when making a payment in a local store when 10 wifi networks are present. |
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After reading all of this discussion, I have now upgraded bitcoind to 0.5.2 on my miners (I mine solo), and encourage all other miners to do the same. I will also encourage pool operators to upgrade and announce support for their pools. Bitcoin needs this functionality now, not later. But not in the form of BIP 16. i kinda agree, can't see too much consensus in the dev team either so a little more brainstorming could be needed |
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Something interesting in the video is the first person seen tweaking the code, username sirius-m. Looking at the developer page, this user is listed 3rd. How come sirius-m is seen messing with code before Satoshi? https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Developerscause he created the github repo nad migrated code from sourceforge. Look at the dates and read old forum posts, it started at almost a year after bitcoin was launched. |
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Hola @paraipanakos, este es mi calculo:
INI = 100.00 EUR
OPERACION : FEE
paypal -> virwox : EUR 0.35 + 3.4% = 96.25 EUR
EUR -> SLL : 50 SLL + 2.50% = 93.85 EUR - 50 SLL
SLL -> BTC : 50 SLL + 1.00% = 92.91 EUR - 100 SLL
BTC -> wallet : 0.02 BTC = 92.91 EUR - 100 SLL - 0.02 BTC
(*) = 92.61 EUR - 0.02 BTC
(*) 1 EUR = 350 SLL => 100 SLL = 0.3 EUR
Los 100 EUR iniciales se convirtieron en 92.6 (7.4% de comision). Si tu saldo en Paypal era cero, entonces va a haber otra comision cuando se pasen fondos desde tu cuenta bancaria a Paypal.
Por otro lado, los precios que se observan en Virwox son un poco mas altos. Si por ejemplo en MtGox el cambio es BTC/USD = 4.1, en Virwox sera BTC/USD = 4.3 (despues de hacer las conversiones). Olvidate de hacer arbitrage, las comisiones matan esa estrategia.
Tambien hay un trade-off entre la rapidez con que quieres que se ejecuten tus ordenes y el precio al que deberas ponerlas. Vas a tener que sacrificar un poco sino pueden pasar dias sin ver accion.
Yo creo que 10% es una estimacion realista de la comision total que debes pagar.
A pesar de todo, pienso que Virvox es la forma mas facil, rapida y menos traumatica de obtener bitcoins. Consejo para los iniciados: olvidense de minar, creense una cuenta en Virwox, inviertan 500 EUR en bitcoins, y prosigan con su vida habitual. Esa es la mejor estrategia que existe. Si Bitcoin se masifica alguna vez, esos 500 EUR se van a multiplicar por 100, 1000, o 10000, quien sabe. Si Bitcoin fracasa, el mundo no se acaba si pierdes 500 EUR. Es un riesgo que vale la pena tomar.
totalmente de acuerdo, he revisado los numeros y estan correctos. Virwox te suele aplicar un descuento considerable en comisiones si pasas ciertos limites que tienen, por eso se me han olvidado las comisiones que pagan los que recien se registran. |
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What have you programmed so far?
+1 , i have a pending project that could use a good programmer hand |
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If someone makes a captive portal that accepts bitcoin I will install it..
I think this is a great idea..
+1 i can manage both dd-wrt and openwrt. They easily support php that has json-rpc libraries available out there ( http://jsonrpcphp.org/) and be able talk to a bitcoin daemon. You could just point a few routers at it. Support for ssl/tls would be great because bitcoind already has it and would enable any individual share the same wallet with captive portals outside his lan. |
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Here is just an off-the-wall idea: if you're legit, why don't you just use an overnight courier to send the original documents to MtGox so they can inspect them by hand, and trust that they will return them.
"But I don't want MtGox keeping my passport!"
They probably won't. And if you came in here and convinced us that they did, we'd shame them for it.
This is what I would do before I would bother with a $90 notary service (that also required me to send my passport somewhere and trust its return).
Horribly irresponsible suggestion is horribly irresponsible. Never let your passport out of your sight, much less trust it to an organization that is notorious for lack of communication. ^this and the fact that any proof of identity document is useless without the actual person being present |
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I do agree that p2pool is eventually going to become more important - however in its current form it cannot scale well to support a huge network of miners. The more ideal situation will be to have p2pool being partially centralized and partially decentralized - this would spread the load and allow for the easier configuration that is currently possible with a regular pool.
Why can't p2pool scale? cause share difficulty works exactly as bitcoin blocks difficulty, increases with the number of miners, so you would have to spend a few days getting a share in a very large p2pool. In the future we will see a few distinct medium-sized p2pools that keep an acceptable share difficulty for their miners, i'm sure about that. |
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P2Pool is a bit more complicated than traditional pool mining, but there are people willing to help, and it's not as difficult as it might seem... But the added work, lack of software that is P2Pool friendly, and variance expected with a smaller pool has kept some miners away.
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TL;DR: I'm asking for donations to the miners of P2Pool because it promotes decentralization of the Bitcoin network. If you think decentralization is important, but aren't a miner yourself, consider offering a small donation.
It seems that the focus of you plea should be on subsidizing the creation of a P2Pool-friendly software and so on, not the P2Pool miners themselves. +1 already mining on p2pool ,and a bit off-topic we should consider using a decentralized community forum too, see my sig |
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Monitors on walls have my approval! nicee, looks like a halflife 2 lab |
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This is my first, and I love to have some. Thanks in advance!
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sont some, those 2 cents were given to me when i reached this forum for the first time |
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Does anyone else have to constantly restart the osiris client because it crashes after a few minutes? It's still a great project but I hope to find a cure for the random crashes.
windows there ? working fine here, let the osiris devs know about it maybe you have some special set-up that causes lots of crashes http://www.osiris-sps.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=1805 |
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Buenas. Alguien ha usado virwox? entiendo que el proceso, es algo así como comprar lindens que quedan dentro del secondlife, para luego meterlos en la cuenta del virwox, para luego comprar los bitcoins.
Esa es una opcion, aunque no la recomiendo. Yo estuve 2 meses tratando de pasar mis lindens desde Second Life a Virwox y nunca lo logre, siempre el traspaso me daba un error. Si bien es obligatorio tener una cuenta en Second Life para registrarse en Virwox, una vez que te registras te olvidas de Second Life y todo lo haces directamente en el sitio de Virwox. Virwox usa como moneda base el Second Life Linden (SLL), asi que cualquier intercabio se hace contra SLL: SLL/USD, SLL/EUR, SLL/BTC, etc. Asi que el procedimiento que hay que hacer para comprar bitcoins es el siguiente: 1. Pasar dolares o euros desde Paypal (tambien existen otros medios de pago) a tu cuenta en Virwox. 2. Con tus dolares o euros comprar SLL (repito, esto se hace dentro de Virwox, no en Second Life). 3. Con tus SLL comprar BTC. 4. Rescatar tus BTC a tu wallet. es muy caro? agradezco cualquier concepto.
En los 4 puntos anteriores Virwox combra comisiones. En total yo calculo que Virwox se queda con entre un 10% y 12% de lo que pusiste. aproximadamente un 5% de comisiones totales cuando pasas de moneda fiat a bitcoin, acceptable si usas paypal en comparacion con la barbaridad que te pueden cobrar en el Market OTC si compras de alguien y mas seguro desde luego |
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virwox.com  Do I need a Second Life account to join Virwox?!?!?  actually yes, i linked the avatar to virwox once and never logged in in second life for over a year haha https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/VirWoX |
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3.25
lol can't edit my own post, 4.55 |
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The problem is not Luke attacking altcoins but Luke using his pool for attacking altcoins without his pool users knowing. This is a breach of trust.
Wasn't for me. I fully support using my resources to destroy alternate cryptocurrencies that are designed to make their creators a quick buck. Also, did anyone ever give any proof that luke-jr actually did this? yes survival of the fittest lawl |
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hahaha very funny I bet hes going to be the only 8 year old around with a bad ass rig that can do 800mhash and play any game out there!  he probably has great parents too but try not to spoil him or it could turn into one of these http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0fGzZIREpc |
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virwox.com |
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