Announce: DarkNote XDN devs are officially working on DarkNote XDN <-> SuperNET integration, to improve both!
We are in active collaboration with @jl777 about that stuff.
So we're sure that BBR is still planned for supernet? |
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And yes, BBR is officially part of the superNET. James and CZ will have to work together over the coming months I'm sure to make sure they get on the same page technically.
Thanks for response, Este Nuno. You are an exceedingly patient person, I must say. I hope everything comes up roses, but I guess we will just have to wait and see. |
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Anyone know if the 13.12 or 14.6 AMD drivers do any better when mining with the opencl AMD GPU miner?
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My opinion on the bbr/supernet hullabaloo: 1) I find the ego immediately followed by false humility off putting. In case it's not clear what I'm referring to, that would be this quote from the Supernet ANN and http://www.jl777.org/supernet/ page: It has been almost two days as I write this and BBR has gone from a death spiral with no volumes to being one of the more actively traded coins, its hashrate also quadrupled and the price is now building a base at 4x to 6x the price when I created the “jl777 effect” immediately followed on both pages by this quote: Now how can a simple C programmer like me have such an effect? If you're referring to yourself in the third person while naming effects after yourself, you're probably not just a "simple" anything, imo. 2) If jl777 is just "a simple C programmer", then why is he undertaking one of the more complex and ambitious projects that requires extensive knowledge of various c++ codebases among other things? 3) I'm not sure where the confidence people have in jl777 to complete the project(s) comes from. As far as I can tell he hasn't delivered anything except for coins/tokens for sale on exchanges. Teleport is not functional, and I don't think any aspect of Supernet is functional. His repositories on github are very lightly forked/starred. Where is the technology he has developed that make people think he can/will pull this off? 4) I don't think I understand Supernet any better than I did before reading the previous several pages. It seems extremely complex, and I think any kind of complex system is prone to have more points of failure.  (Apparently Einstein probably didn't actually ever say that, but whatevs, the point remains the same.) I'm not even sure if BBR is still supposed to be a part of the supernetwork, tbh. Could someone clarify that? Also, why would you let a GUI designer pick an encryption algorithm, btw, re: the quote below? So the GUI designer can choose which cipher to use, etc. Let us hope the GUI designers have a better chance than 10% |
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Thanks for the missives.
Any news or progress update about funding, database, GUI, I2P?
Do we have a blockchain stats/hashrate explorer for Monero? Monerochain.info seems to be permanently down.
There's always minergate.com for blockchain and hashrate. Also chainradar.com |
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Symfony\Component\Debug\Exception\FatalErrorException thrown with message "Class 'Roumen\Feed\FeedServiceProvider' not found"
Stacktrace:
#1 Symfony\Component\Debug\Exception\FatalErrorException in /var/www/forum.monero.cc/webroot/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/ProviderRepository.php:157
#0 Illuminate\Exception\Handler:handleShutdown in <#unknown>:0
from fluffypony on IRC: <fluffypony> yesh
<fluffypony> just updating
<fluffypony> 20 seconds mebbe he meant 20 minutes... |
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Myriad deleted from mintpal ..
if the volume is low then they will delete the coin. I don't think it's volume necessarily at this point. They also haven't re-added Monero or NXT, but they have the HIRO market up and running. I think they're just using low volume as an excuse. Just checked and MYR market is back up at Mintpal, but XMR and NXT still not. I really think the low volume thing was just bullshit excuse. |
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Symfony\Component\Debug\Exception\FatalErrorException thrown with message "Class 'Roumen\Feed\FeedServiceProvider' not found"
Stacktrace:
#1 Symfony\Component\Debug\Exception\FatalErrorException in /var/www/forum.monero.cc/webroot/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/ProviderRepository.php:157
#0 Illuminate\Exception\Handler:handleShutdown in <#unknown>:0
from fluffypony on IRC: <fluffypony> yesh
<fluffypony> just updating
<fluffypony> 20 seconds |
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I dont see monero on mintpal. Did something happen?
Apparently the Myriadcoin market isn't up as well. Someone on ##myriadcoin sent in a ticket and got this response: A few (relatively low volume) coins are currently unavailable due to daemon codebase issues. They will be available shortly, and your coins our safe! We will be making a blog post about these coins shortly. Please check out blog at http://blog.moolah.io/I guess they're both relatively low volume coins  |
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lol "in real math"  |
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Myriad deleted from mintpal ..
Quote from someone on IRC: <Miraged> A few (relatively low volume) coins are currently unavailable due to daemon codebase issues. They will be available shortly, and your coins our safe! We will be making a blog post about these coins shortly. Please check out blog at http://blog.moolah.io/Sounds like they will add market back, but not really clear I guess. |
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Anyone from HUC going to Hasher's United conference? Just curious (sadly not going myself  ). |
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assertions that it is held by thousands of people, which i find dubious
The mining part is probably dubious, but is it implausible that thousands of people have bought it on exchanges, even if just for speculative purposes? It has been somewhat of an exciting coin to trade at times, and crypto exchanges have a pretty large audience. Considering both mining and exchange speculators I can't really rule out thousands, can you? I can't rule out thousands, but I haven't really seen any convincing evidence that it is thousands either. After counting up the number of poster people here, looking for any other forums that may exist, looking at the hashrates, and watching trade volume over the past several months, I'm really not sure that duck/darknote has achieved a much better distribution than bytecoin. They are both at similar points in their emission schedule, 88% and 74% of coins emitted for bytecoin and duck/darknote, respectively, with apparently a couple hundred people interested enough to make their voices heard on a forum. iCEBREAKER, have you actually spent your entire life on an icebreaker? Is that why you're such a socially maladept person with a sailor-like vocabulary? |
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I mentioned the name in passing, the post was about the distribution of coins and dNotes assertions that it is held by thousands of people, which i find dubious, but please, carry on name calling and discussing the name.
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the name was changed to ripoff darkcoin
You can't post one time without calling someone names, can you? If you don't have anything meaningful to say, just call people names I guess. |
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they still haven't cracked the protocol.
what's all the fuss?
By the time they do, this coin will be valueless wow! such foresight, much insight! |
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Yeah i know, thats why i asked what his nickname is here. He looks no better than the homeless guy.
Is it foodies ?
lol no. He's just somebody that likes myr. He comes on IRC occasionally, but I'm not sure he even has a btctalk account. |
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Who is an /u/meat_body_soul on bitcointalk ?
This guy (on the left):  |
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You can call me troll, neckbeard, or say I'm stirring up shit all you want. If you didn't want critical voices then go hide in a self-moderated thread. You're kind of correct kkraus69 about trolling, I guess I did a bit of that when the name was changed to ripoff darkcoin, but that isn't what's at issue over the last several pages. The fact is that 75% of the total coins were emitted in the first several months, and by my analysis of the btctalk thread there were at most a few hundred people interested in ducknote here. There was a total of about 20 posts on ducknotetalk.org, 8 posts at http://talk.ducknote.cc/, and 26 posts on /r/ducknote. So, I'm just curious where are these thousands of other users whose forums can't be searched by google, yahoo, baidu, bing, or qq. If he wants to use the same lame excuse as bytecoin that all communications take place on the super duper top secret dark web, then just say so. I own significant (for me) amounts of boolberry and monero; I'm not against cryptonotes, and I'm not shilling for monero. I just think information should be contested, especially when it sounds quite suspicious. Should no one say anything bad about bytecoin because it's cryptocurrency and we should all just relax and ride the wave of trillions of dollars pouring into crypto? I don't think so, plus I enjoy arguing. Why? tell me why, user should post anything if he mine XDN? the fact is that "few hundred people interested in ducknote here" you said, let it be 1 of 10 miners is posting here. OMG, 10*few hundreds = few thousands of XDN miners. Another fact is the number of workers that been submitted for xdn mining last months - 7-10k on average. If i person (user) got 2-3 workers on average we got, oh wait = few thousands of XDN miners. That is just miners, i am not speaking about traders. You can`t change and disagree with the fact = thousands of users (i expect >10000 users) own some XDN. And another fact >10% of XDN is still available on exchanges. You can fight the wind mill, and fight those, who mined it since first blocks, traded it since the early blocks, etc. But DarkNote is one of the most fairly launched cryptocurrencies. Public and laud launch, great activity, etc, even now you mine with 20000XDN block reward on fairly low difficulty. Go, mine, get your XDN, what we are speaking about? We're speaking about the bolded portion in your quote. Let's consider the four major cryptonote currencies: boolberry, bytecoin, duck/darknote, and monero. I completed running my script on the main btctalk threads counting the number of users; the results are shown below: | Currency | Total # of posts | # of unique posters | # of people that posted more than once | # who posted at least 10x | | Boolberry | 4971 | 519 | 310 | 89 | | Bytecoin | 4116 | 479 | 291 | 94 | | Darknote | 360 | 81 | 30 | 7 | | Ducknote | 1624 | 287 | 143 | 36 | | Monero | 15456 | 1494 | 932 | 268 |
So, obviously Duck/Darknote has significantly less interest on btctalk. You made the claim that there are some communities that don't show up on google, but when searching on yahoo, bing, baidu, and qq, there are no other significant duck/darknote related forums that I can pull up on the first several pages of results. I also don't buy the miner statistics argument you're making. You haven't shown any data, but even assuming your statistics are accurate there are two issues that I see with relying on the number of miners as an indicator of widespread adoption: (1) it is well known that coins using the cryptonight algorithm are the targets of botnets, so hundreds or thousands of these miners could be a single person/entity, and (2) I myself have probably 20 miners between cpus, gpus, and asics at home and at school. So, even considering just the latter argument, then the actual number of miners could be several thousand divided by 10 or 20, which is much more aligned with the number of btctalk users in the table above. Duck/Darknote has also pretty consistently had the lowest hashrate during the period of June-August, even lower than Bytecoin, which is when more than 60% of coins were emitted, and even now the hashrate is about 10x lower than Monero. So, most of the Ducknotes were mined when it had the lowest hashrate among any cryptonote - I just don't see how very fast emission combined with very low hashrate equates with a fair distribution. I'm not even sure Duck/Darknote even has a more fair/broad distribution that Bytecoin at this point, tbh. I do like the tech that you're implementing. I actually just bought a few 100k when price hit 29 satoshi on Polo, but I'm very skeptical of the assertion that the coin is as broadly distributed as you say, and also the claim that it had one of the most fair launches of any cryptocurrency. Edit: Here is a link to the Python script used to count users from the various cryptonote threads: https://gist.github.com/jwinterm/b83090d6e0b238e5b8c7 |
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hello  Is it possible that VTC integrate supernet ? Is supernet functional? Does it even exist yet, or purely hype? |
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