Complete mining newbie reporting in, with some questions.
Decided to dabble in xmr mining a bit, to support the network, and put any hypothetical earnings into the dev address, as per smooth's suggestion. Getting started on Amazon's EC2 as well, but also wanted to see if I can put my Macbook to use... here's the result:
I might as well turn it off, right? I'm adding about 40 H/s, which is for all practical purposes negligible, correct?
It's not much. You might want to be especially careful with a macbook. I don't have any first hand knowledge, but I've read on the internet (it must be true!), that mac's tend to be particularly prone to damage caused by overheating, due to either apple's thin form factor that leads to poor heat dissipation, or they just limit the fans so the laptop can't get as noisy. With that being said, I have an i5 hp lappie that I mostly leave at school (free power), that has been mining monero and other stuff on four threads for the past year or so with no problems at all. |
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At the end of the day, to my mind Bitcoin makes the most sense. Less effort if people want to get in, and less effort if people want to get to fiat.  I hugely agree with the idea of going with some kind of token over a full blown coin. The amount of work just managing the most basic features of a cryptocoin is insane, and the time I feel is better spent developing the social features than constantly battling all the economic issues brought by PoW and PoS cryptos. I'd urge going with Dogeparty or ClearingHouse as their block times are so significantly different to Bitcoin. I'm not certain of my reasoning, so it definitely warrants discussion, but I think a fast, sleek transactional system based around an issued token is a much much better idea to consider, and will free up developer time to work on the most important side of things - the social stuff. Not least of all because devs won't constantly have to be firefighting crypto douchebags trying to instamine or otherwise ruin an amazing venture. I think of the two (XCH/XDP), XDP makes more social sense.... 24s vs 60s block times will make no real difference in the big scheme of things, and the social ethos of FUNK has very much been in keeping with the Doge mentality. Very much on board Simon, good thinking. The tokens can be incentivised in so many ways, too - people can sell them for Doge, other assets... They can buy them to activate in-app features, to tip musicians... Nothing apart from some of our algo work will go to waste, and honestly that stuff was needlessly complicated and only being put in place to avoid nefarious instaminers... On top of that, probably wouldn't even work... We know how a large amount of this scene behaves by now. Such sound! Very music! I'm not familiar with clearinghouse, nor have I ever used dogeparty or counterparty, but I have heard of them. So I guess based on n00b's logic I'd lean towards dogeparty. Also, as groggin points out, fees would be massively lower. |
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It's called bumping the thread. If it was flooding then you might see some posts getting deleted, which they aren't. |
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How can I calculate the estimated time to find a block solo, I'm running 17khs.
Hey, it isn't an exact calculation, but you can take a look at this pool list http://minexmr.com/pools.html (thanks for the link, jwinterm) to see when some of the smaller pools last found a block. By looking at the current network hashrate, it can be calculated. Maybe someone will chime in with the formula. I remember seeing it somewhere in this forum a week or so ago. My best guesstimate is that you would probably find a block in a day or so, give or take (?) [depends on Lady Luck, eh] An easy way to estimate time to find a block solo mining is to take the ratio of your hashrate to network hashrate. So if you have 17 kh/s and the network rate is currently 18 Mh/s (such low!), then you will find (approximately) 1 out of every 1000 blocks. Block time is one minute, so 1000 minutes, or about one block every 17 hours. Of course, variance being what it is, you could find one in 3 hours or you might have to mine for several days/weeks before you find one (if you're lucky like me  ). Edit: What smooth said is technically more accurate, but works out to be about the same. Since network hashrate is calculated from difficulty, it's almost two ways of saying the same thing. |
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How about a coin named after the creator. Something to do with his name
crypto_zoidberg.
I don't know maybe that is stupid.
I suggested 'gelt', which is the yiddish word for money, not too many posts back, which is an oblique reference to the developer's name, since zoidberg the space traveling doctor lobster is also apparently of yiddish descent. I think you have to be careful about how close the reference is, so we don't end up with a coinye situation. I'm not even sure if crypto_zoidberg has ever mentioned futurama in any capacity, and I kind of doubt he would go for this, but obviously you can't just call them futuramaNotes and stick zoidberg's lobster face on the logo (unless crypto_zoidberg likes getting sued). |
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Maybe just point to a small pool instead, because I am unaware of how to solo mine with wolf0's or yam's miners. The bitmonerod (daemon itself) miner will mine solo, but it is quite a bit slower than the alternatives. May I suggest this pool: http://cryptograben.com/pool/monero-xmr/ <-- It is closing on 9-25 but it is still working now. I tried it about a week or so ago. (I prefer http://monero.crypto-pool.fr/ because I need to see some type of ROI on my EC2 costs) One of the smallest (and coolest) pools: http://monero.coolmining.club/HegemoOn (freenode IRC nick of pool owner) is also a really big monero supporter, and runs open bitmonerod nodes that can be connected to by anyone to query for blockchain info and stuff. |
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This is a detailed guide to setup cloud miners (cpu+gpu) on Amazon EC2. I put together this guide for user oda.krell, who was kind enough to give me a very nice tip for it, so thanks should also go to oda.krell. OK, So here goes (assuming you have your ec2 account all set up and linked to credit card): <snip>Nice instructions</snip> Let me know if you have any questions or anything. And if you want to repost anywhere, I don't mind. Good luck What about solo-mining on these instances? Someone else actually already PMed me about this. In order to solo mine (with gpu), you need access to a running/synced instance of bitmonerod, whether that is on the same or another amazon instance or your home computer or somewhere else, and then you need this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=735738.0It's seems a bit trickier, and it's not something I've done myself, but the instructions at above link seem pretty clear. Or I guess you can run your own cryptonight-nodejs pool instance somewhere, but I think that is even much more trickier than just running stratum proxy. Edit: While not quite as good as solo mining, you can also find a list of pools here: http://minexmr.com/pools.htmlScroll down to bottom graph to find smallish pools that are much less likely to be attacked. |
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How about gelt/geld? Yiddish/german for coin/money. Zoidberg is yiddish, at least the character his moniker is based on is.
Why not gelt? Or if we want to be like dNote and rip people off, DarkGelt. Mmm, sweet, chocolate DarkGelt...
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BeiberCoin - that way we can keep the BBR.
nothing tops this. don't have to change the ticker symbol teen girls will buy millions we can work deals with police departments to accept BBR as bond for eggings, minor car accidents, pot misdemeanors. Plus Canada. Biebercoin Yea except for the part where this becomes the next coinye and gets sued to oblivion. |
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keccash/keycash >>> flooz/floozy
I like keycash, maybe even better than boolberry, though I'm on the fence about it a bit. Also, keycash.com is apparently not available (no surprise there).
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How do I get everything set up for solo mining? I have the daemon running already, block chain up to date, etc.
start_mining 46BeWrHpwXmHDpDEUmZBWZfoQpdc6HaERCNmx1pEYL2rAcuwufPN9rXHHtyUA4QVy66qeFQkn6sfK8aHYjA3jk3o1Bv16em 3
I think that is the dev donation address, and the 3 at the end represents the number of threads to use. So you just enter that command into the daemon, and change the address and number of threads to use (if you want). |
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How about Fleence (from Macbeth), or bleen (from whale taxonomy)?
lol this has to be a joke right? bleen? fleence? why not bleenfleence? Sorry, I don't really have anything better, and I don't mean to ridicule. I have to agree with anonymint (and I do hold a little bbr) that rune is no bueno, imo. I like boolberry. If people don't like the berry, maybe boolring? Not boolshit. Boolring could be XBR, close to same ticker.  Enciphering sounds decent. Certainly has a nicer ring than rune, secore, or vortex to my ear, and incorporates "ring", which is at least relevant. |
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For anyone who would like to help support network over next few days, or is just interested/curious, I put together detailed instructions on how to do cpu+gpu mining on AWS. Posted on the Monero mining thread here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=653467.msg8919354#msg8919354Thanks to oda.krell for giving me some impetus to write it up |
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For anyone who would like to help support network over next few days, or is just interested/curious, I put together detailed instructions on how to do cpu+gpu mining on AWS. Posted on the Monero mining thread here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=653467.msg8919354#msg8919354Thanks to oda.krell for giving me some impetus to write it up |
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This is a detailed guide to setup cloud miners (cpu+gpu) on Amazon EC2. I put together this guide for user oda.krell, who was kind enough to give me a very nice tip for it, so thanks should also go to oda.krell. OK, So here goes (assuming you have your ec2 account all set up and linked to credit card, which you can do here: http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/ ): 1) Click on EC2, and then click on Spot Requests under Instances on left sidebar. 2) Click Request Spot Instances blue button near top, and then click Community AMIs and search for XMRminer. Select XMRminer2. 3) For Instance Type, select GPU instances g2.2xlarge, click next and set your maximum price (kind of expensive now, need to do like $0.09 per hour, used to be more like $0.06). 4) Click Review and Launch and then click Launch. At this point you need to setup your ssh keys. I did this a while ago, so I don't remember exact details, but it should be pretty straightforward. Here is a link to Amazon's official tutorial on key pair creation: http://docs.aws.amazon.com/AWSEC2/latest/UserGuide/ec2-key-pairs.htmlLet me know if you have issues. 5) Make yourself a cup of tea and wait 30-120 seconds while your instance is prepared. 6) You'll need to ssh into your instance. On Linux you just put your ssh keys in ~/.ssh and set permissions for 400 (I think), and if you ssh from that folder, that's all you need to do. I think on Windows, using Putty, you need to maybe convert the key to putty's format using an extra putty tool. Let me know if you need additional help with this. Here are Amazon's official links on how to connect if you're having trouble: ssh/Linux - http://docs.aws.amazon.com/AWSEC2/latest/UserGuide/AccessingInstancesLinux.html Putty/Windows - http://docs.aws.amazon.com/AWSEC2/latest/UserGuide/putty.htmlMore Putty - http://docs.aws.amazon.com/gettingstarted/latest/wah-linux/getting-started-deploy-app-connect.html7) Click on Instances in the left sidebar, and you should see a g2.2xlarge instance with green circle that says running. Click that and then click Connect at the top, and it should give you your IP address to connect to with some instructions. 8 ) On Linux your ssh command should look like: ssh -i aws1.pem ubuntu@54.191.192.111 Use ubuntu as user not root. 9) Maybe it's more like 180-300 seconds. Drink some tea while waiting. 10) When it prompts you to permanently add key, click "yes". 11) Now, you need to edit cpustart.sh and gpustart.sh in your home directory using either vi or nano, unless you want to mine to my XMR address  It looks like if you want to mine directly to exchange, just replace my XMR address in both files with YourExchangeXMRAddress.YourExchangePaymentID. 12) You need to run two commands, one to make gpuminer work, and other to make cpuminer much faster: sudo ldconfig /usr/local/cuda-5.5/lib64
sudo sysctl -w vm.nr_hugepages=24 13) I just made another script called start.sh to launch both miners at once, and it seems to work. So do: then vi or nano start.sh and add: #!/bin/bash
screen /home/ubuntu/cpustart.sh
screen /home/ubuntu/gpustart.sh then: and then launch with: You need the screen so that when you disconnect your ssh session, the miners keep mining. That's it. You can disconnect and both miners should be hashing away. You can ssh back in and run and you should see minerd and ccminer listed in the processes somewhere near the bottom. If you want to launch a shitload of instances, then obviously you want to automate this process and not do it manually every time. In this case, you need to make sure you edit the files so that they have your XMR address and not mine, and create the start.sh script in home directory, then edit the rc.local file by doing: and add the following lines: ldconfig /usr/local/cuda-5.5/lib64
sysctl -w vm.nr_hugepages=24
screen /home/ubuntu/start.sh This way, as soon as the instance boots up, it should autolaunch the miners. I haven't tried this final automation part (as I don't normally launch a shitload of instances), but I think this should work, and I'm gonna verify it now. Now, go back to your EC2 console, right-click on the g2.2xlarge instance in your Instances window, and select Create Image. This will sever your connection and cause a reboot, but you will now have your own image/AMI that you can launch 10s or 100s or 1000s of, just by entering however many instances you want when filling out your spot request form. I just tried the rc.local thing, and it seems to auto-launch ccminer and minerd If you would like to send me some coins for tip, here is btc: 1Gy2BQKMVjvWdRnG3Ktwm2cXdEyL8ZdqvE and xmr addresses: 49jkaP1xDZrEYaWxtoToPzitbQh6Z7Vv8c3MwtP49wsZhJUR5VojrxcKgb76zT8XRU5AAWHVptx4RgxgLb5fX7iM2vBSKXA Let me know if you have any questions or anything. And if you want to repost anywhere, I don't mind. Good luck |
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I'd be OK with doubling the bootstrap to a 2% presale. Anything more would seriously test the bounds of acceptability, and give the impetus to fork too much energy.
I think the even 1% bootstrap will test the bounds of acceptability. I'm not totally against it, but I think other options should explored/exhausted before messing with the money supply. |
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Aaargh, lost em both, and the cowboys won  At least the eagles still undefeated though! I checked that first thing when I woke up this AM! GG though and excuse my customer service for not reaching out to you in PM after I got side tracked fucking off with some other shit! And we are getting a little buying action @ Poloniex GG No problemo. I trust you, and anyway I don't even have to worry about you running off with coins since I lost both bets  Thanks for keeping thread up and running. I posted on reddit in /r/huntercoin, maybe I'll try and post links in /r/cryptocurrency and /r/altcoin and phrase in such a way that I don't get downvoted to oblivion (those don't seem to be the friendliest subreddits), get a little more action going. |
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Aaargh, lost em both, and the cowboys won At least the eagles still undefeated though! |
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