I was bored recently and made this   Very cool! RC3 is being packaged right now! You'll see it on GitHub before I have the blog post about it all up and ready. Hold off grabbing it until I've got the blog post up pls, it'll have important info on how to use RC3 correctly and some info on changes in RC3 users/community should be aware of in terms of sendtoalias functionality, etc.  |
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Development UpdateRC3 is ready. We've improved and changed a number of things and need to update the translations for messages and such throughout the aliases section of 0.1.5 RC3. We'll have this completed by tomorrow afternoon PM US/EST time and then make the Syscoin 0.1.5 RC3 publicly available!
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I personally feel buy support will come once the shock settles from all the moolah happenings. Right now everyone is confused, trying to move this here or there and everyone has a different priority. The syscoin team has promptly addressed any FUD and anyone's who is patient will see the future is bright.  Thankyou for the comments, i agree with the fact people are a bit confused but i dont think that's just based on the recent happenings. Bitcoin itself i think is a bit reason why the markets are in tatters (the majority of) and obviously other coins, people are quick to dump / get out of any of there holdings when Bitcoin goes up as they assume this downtrend is forever. I agree with your thoughts as well. I tend to summarize too much. When I said different priorities. But yes many things are at play but again. Syscoin has a bright future What is going on as far as marketing to new crowds to gain interest in syscoin. With the price currently I Feel that should be a big marketing push. Also how are things going with finding people with the ability to translate syscoin literature to get more adoption over the world. Lastly coder boo said he could use some help so what would that take to get accomplished. As some may be aware we're gearing up for marketing push #2. In terms of specifics I don't have any at this moment as I'm up to my eyeballs in testing the 0.1.5 client. Once 0.1.5 is out in final form we will be focusing our attention on getting more of our materials translated as coderboo said. If you are a native speaker of Chinese, Italian, Portuguese, French, Russian or other "major" language please reach out via pm to mwheeleruk or via email michael@syscoin.org. We are looking for native speakers to do translations- Google translate or other automated translation services don't count.We will be focusing on this translation piece more after 0.1.5 is done, but if we can get a head start on it now than lets do it! |
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I think you'd be throwing out the baby with the bath water if you severed ties with Moolah tbh. Give them a chance to turn it around. There's a lot of Moolah haters out there... If you take care to read that reddit post you'll find that OPs issue is with Mintpal's management prior to the Moolah takeover..... Moolah certainly gave us time to address issues and we don't plan on throwing the baby out with the bath water at all just cause they had some issues too. Also we absolutely need the remainder of our funding they are holding. Remember Moolah runs much more than just an exchange, this is just the high-visibility launch having issues right now (we've been there), they are still a huge player in the crypto space and that is very valuable. Syscoin is an entirely independent crypto team- we are not owned nor controlled by any outside entities, and we are constantly working on partnership with more players inside (and outside) the crypto space. Dispelling some rumors:- We are not Moolah. - We were not bought by Moolah. - We are not using Moolah devs, we have our own team. - We do not have "only 1 dev". - We do not have 1500btc [yet]. - We are not sailing boats. Confirming facts:- We are working hard as fck - We are committed to the long term vision around Syscoin which we have communicated several times - We are working on numerous parallel efforts all related to Syscoin, some which we have no disclosed (gotta keep some things as a surprise) - All the presale rewards have SHIPPED. Royal Mail is slow. |
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@devsHow are you going to ask people to show respect on the thread and then go DISRESPECT US ALL by spending so much time with this ANDROID TROLL?!?!?  enough of this android troll
Yea we aren't spending anymore time on that.  Wake up devs... at least one of you guys should start actually adding these TROLLS to your Ignore List like I have been doing (instead of just doing the whole moderating thing) so that you can see the influx of posts by them whenever a NEW sock-puppet-troll gets created with the purpose of shitting all over the thread... NEVER FAILS... I do this myself but since ignore-lists are user-specific (like android would only be ignored in my view if I understand this system correctly) we're always concerned others who may have less technical knowledge will take this stuff they are posting as fact. Maybe I am misunderstanding how BCT ignore's work though- are they user specific or if I (as mod of the thread) "ignore" a user is that user now ignored within the thread for everyone? If its the latter I'll start using ignore a lot more for the situations. Thanks for the quick BCT 101. Oh and devs....
Do you have any contacts over at Mintpal that can tell you when I, and others I'm sure, can get my fairly large sum of Syscoin out of there?
In this case we actually do have contacts that we can try to reach out to for that information. Will do that today and then report back soon as we can. So the question (just so I get it right) is when will Syscoin withdrawals from Mintpal be enabled/functional? I haven't been over there in a day or two so I'm not sure if they state of affairs is that withdrawals are disabled, or if they are not "working". Give me a lil clarification here and I'll make sure to follow up. The more trolls will make noise, the better for us - medium/long time investors. I have started buying SYS now, because it's a good price and the future is bright I will keep buying them at this price 4 sure. For all those that keeps crying about all "this and that" - sell your coins (thought I doubt you have any) and move on to other coins. +1 and welcome back!
The spotlight of Syscoin Asset exchange is what's inspiring, what's positive and what's working and what will be huge. is going to be huge. We have so much coming... its a weird paradigm seeing so much trolling and doubt here when in reality there is really so much positive news coming (some of which we shared a bit). We'll keep working hard, finalizing RC3 and pushing forward all this stuff we're working on (mobile wallets, new core features, entirely new wallet, Blockmarket, and more). Made some big progress on RC3 issues working late into last night. Testing now. Update coming later today. |
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Dano, 1500 btc are what you asked from investors, if you thought 1490 were good for the coin donating to charity is you business plan, that is, your teams management skills and therefor, your teams responsibility. Do you need some ideas ? ok lets brainstorm .... How about borrowing 20k each one , resign from job and work closed doors through 4 months before deadline? after all you would have received 1500 btc after that period if every feature was implemented ? . Ok lets suppose you don't have any possibility to get any money (really ? all having jobs ?) and you should keep working, well how about finishing the wallet first having 2 jobs and then only then ask for money ? what would have been the difference for you guys ? you would have 2 jobs anyway as you have now isn't it ?
For the other topic, could you please detail what better technology than Qt for C++ for UI development and why ?
I am glad that we can have a civilized discussion about this topics
Are you suggesting we should have forgone income entirely, taken out personal loans for 20k each (?!) resigned from our jobs and then hope that the presale sold out and... if so... because we had quit our jobs (which and pay for our lives and families) to focus on Syscoin for 4months then we would have not had launch issues and gotten the 1500btc immediately thus making the 20k of personal debt per team member we took on pre-launch repaid?  I hope I'm just misunderstanding something here because that is absurd and frankly completely irresponsible. If you think that is a sound "plan". What if there were still issues come launch? We'd be jobless, heavily in debt, and with families to support. In either case - I'm sorry but I'm not going to continue this line of hindsight-based "brainstorming" with you. If you have suggestions on how to improve Syscoin beyond the comments you've already made, we welcome them. If you'd like to actually help (since you seem to have so much experience here) we welcome that too. If you're interested in what interface technology we'll be using for UI dev instead of C++ I already answered that and have no interest in debating it. |
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Hi !, thanks for answering! just to be clear i never said that Syscoin is a bad quality code neither that it is not original. I said that it is fairly easy to understand ( that is a compliment by the way) but to believe that it would be very difficult to fork is just not true (this is in response to some assertion of a member of your team).
I never said that you were a bad coder, in fact i said you were good (literally i said that ) , but my perception is that your ego is (was ?) bigger. I understand now that you have full time jobs and this is a complex project.
Let's be honest though, should Oracle evaluate the development management of this project you would surely fail and you know it. You also know that the team is not at the level that a corporation require for any minimum source code. All of that would be forgivable if you do it for free, but your team asked 1500 btc which is a lot of money, whether you received the money or if moolah expended all in prostitutes is completely irrelevant for investors.
Sincerely i would never have invested in the project knowing that you guys have full time jobs ( as most of crypto developers ) but at least that explains a lot of things.
I know it is my fault to make suppositions, that is the game and surely that is the reason risk/reward is so high; but the image you sold to investors is that the team is capable of producing corporate quality code and to bring top management skills to the table, you failed to deliver that.
With 1500 btc you asked from investors you could hire 5 full time devs for 2 years. Again, its irrelevant that you didn't receive the money, but investors surely don't have that money in their pockets.
Maybe if you dedicated full time to this project, history would be different.
Thanks for your reply. I'm going to focus on a few specific points. You call out we asked for 1500btc- this is inaccurate. We positioned 1500btc worth of inventory for sale, we didn't say without it being sold out, we wouldn't launch or anything of that nature- just the opposite actually; If the coins didn't sell they'd just be added on to the mining schedule. We said we would use the funds to grow the coin, and that is still 100% accurate. Additionally through DYOR you should have seen we have full time jobs, almost the entire team doxx'd themselves. You can find most of us on LinkedIn and we did also disclose this in presale threads (we have jobs). With 1500 btc you asked from investors you could hire 5 full time devs for 2 years. Again, its irrelevant that you didn't receive the money, but investors surely don't have that money in their pockets.
Maybe if you dedicated full time to this project, history would be different.
You quote that you know we don't have the full fund. A few sentences later you say we should be using the full fund to hire fulltime developers. Then you say the fact we don't have the fund is irrelevant, but just a few words before that you said we should use it to hire developers... I'm just pointing out the contradictions (or lack of clarity) in the statements you're making. I said that it is fairly easy to understand ( that is a compliment by the way) but to believe that it would be very difficult to fork is just not true (this is in response to some assertion of a member of your team). You're referring to something I said but representing it inaccurately. I said it would be hard to maintain and enhance. Forking any code (aka: cloning) is dead simple.  care to elaborate what better technology than Qt for C++ and why ? Are you really sure of what you are saying ? We're moving away from a C++ based UI technology for future wallets. And yes I'm sure. Many other wallets are already doing this with good reason. We're looking at both straight Java and pure web-technologies delivered in a packaged experience. Look at coins like NXT and NHZ.
As Coderboo mentioned earlier, we are working on sourcing additional coders (and other staff) as needed to expedite development but since you are in the industry yourself you know good coders are hard to find and come at a steep price. Nonetheless as stated in several of my replies on the last pages, we're looking for these people. |
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Please, I urge everyone to maintain a level of civility and courtesy in this thread. @Honeycutt is absolutely within his rights to ask questions, and we welcome those here.
I do see the super low buy support on Bittrex, and I'm going to do something about that as soon as I can (see my first post relative to funds) if nobody else has. I've put my life energy into this project and I will continue to do so as long as I have the means - the btc you entrusted us with - to do so. I believe in SYS because I believe in our team's ability to pull off something really valuable - something worth way more than the 1500 BTC you gave us in terms of return, as well as effect.
Could I be totally off base? Could be. But ask Dan: I told Dan and the guys early this year exactly what the trends would be right around coin launch time and why I made the design choices I did, before the team really got working in force. I was right, on all of them.
I find it interesting that while many still continue to discount Syscoin, our hashrate today is 375ghs and our difficulty hovers right under 5500 right now. That's by design, and SYS is only what, two months old?
Now SYS is secure from a majority potential attackers, which will, alongside the new assets service, and new content for developers making it easier to build interfaces using assets, certificates, aliases data aliases and offers, make for an attractive platform and investment pretty soon here as all eyes shift to products focused on crypto finance infrastructure.
Good luck getting any SYS then as every single crypto product with the word 'finance' goes flying through the stratosphere. Those that were around during the Internet bubble remember exactly what I'm talking about. Money was being handed our to anyone who asked. What do you think will happen here as this bubble grows?
I'm not perfect, but I know what I'm doing. So does Dan, so does the entire team. And we're committed, and have the ideas, skills and knowledge to pull this off. That's what we're giving you when you buy SYS.
So thank you, Honeycutt, for bringing this up, and I hope my answer satisfies you.
This is completely true and believe it or not a lot of the features we are seeing other coins try to implement right now Syscoin already has because there was a lot of foresight in the design- albeit with a poor user experience which we realize is critical and is one of our top priorities. Our biggest problem was a super-hyped launch that initially had major issues. This negatively impacted market sentiment. When people saw they had to fall back to the console to interact with the services they found that too difficult and thus Syscoin's potential continues to go unrealized. We're committed to addressing all of these issues related to usability and feature visibility as well as adding entirely new features to Syscoin. |
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A number of things are in the Pipeline for Syscoin as mentioned countless times by the team - It aint all going to be done in one day, the whole point of the release candidate program is something implemented so things can be tested, tested and before we release something - it's tested yet again. A big marketing effort is been built at present and hours are been put into this which is part of the roadmap on and from the 27th of this month working with partners to bring more adoption for Syscoin, again - 0.1.5 release is on the doorstep (as per the update from Danosphere - this weekend), On top of this we are readying up the release of both Android and iOS wallets. If this isnt enough we have the addition of the blockmarket in development - Syncing with the Blockchain.  @mwheeleruk leaking all the cool stuff we have coming I see! But not ALL of it I wanted to address this comment quickly: There is only one coder for most (all?) code, check the style in code, its almost obvious. That is another thing that i totally fell for, i thought that there were at least 3 devs working on this, again my fault. Of course i fell stupid not to think that developer means web developer too; by the way the web page pretty good !
There are at least 3 developers working on the core C++ code including the UI enhancements since we are still stuck in QT (unfortunately  ). I see this (C++ devs spending time on QT interfaces) as a waste of time and skills as we have a large percentage of the team that could implement these interfaces in a different, arguably "better" technology - thus freeing up the C++ developers to push forward on more new features and services such as Syscoin Assets, Syscoin Multisig Encryption and Syscoin Escrow just to name a few. This can all be done while concurrently delivering a much better user experience in terms of the wallet and the Syscoin services therein. We're always looking for more talented developers at the C++ level! I feel that we as a crypto team are extremely communicative too- arguable more than most crypto teams. This coin is a long term, large-scale undertaking and we are up to that challenge. This team has skills and vision. We aren't saying we know everything- we most certainly don't and we're improving and learning everyday- any person who thinks they know everything or has no room for improvement is lying to themselves imho. Also remember that we're kind of inventing a space here- there aren't other coins (or very very few) with built in marketplaces yet that are truly functional, certificates as a service is also a very unique feature. I know some coins like NMC and NXT already have the concept of aliases and assets (NXT) but Syscoin Assets are modeled to specifically be more flexible than NXT assets. There is a lot coming. And as Coderboo mentioned, until we get the resources and locate the "right people" to fill certain roles on the team we will all continue to work these two full time jobs to make sure the full potential of Syscoin is realized. I also reiterate his message in that you'll see the commitment to this through our actions and deliverables. |
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In my opinion the biggest risk is that some experienced team is waiting for these guys to deliver all features and then hijack the code, add minor features and make a good release. If that happens will be the end for syscoin  because there will be a copycat with better support and better experience for users. Welcome to the darkside of free software. I even think that's the reason of the perceived low price. Any team that attempt this (and their welcome to) would be somewhat reliant on us to keep their fork working since Syscoin is an entirely different animal than any other altcoin. Additionally, we have many new services coming, they'd always be one step behind at the least. We welcome this though, it's what open source and competition is all about. It's just highly unlikely such an effort would succeed. |
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According with moolah's escrow of syscoin ico they should have delivered a working wallet with 4 promised services but it never happened.They also advertised about a well experienced team but in reality other shitcoins are having good marketing than syscoin .Can you really ever trust someone again after they've cheated on you? The trust is gone and will probably never be regained.
This is inaccurate. All four promised features were delivered at launch (markets, certs, aliases, data). There was an issue with service fee regen that caused forks and required an emergency patch which was applied in <48hrs. The following week we reintroduced the regenerated fees AND enabled merged mining. So yes, we delivered everything we promised but there was a small issue which we fixed quickly and we've not had any issues since. The network has also grown astronomically since launch. Hey Dano, quick question. How much of the ICO is Moolah still holding?
Right now they hold 750btc + 250btc of SYS the team purchased as "earlier buy support" which equates to roughly 60mil SYS although that is not an exact figure as we've not received the exact number from them despite asking. |
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We are not using the crap Android wallet that every other coin clones because- 1) it is not very good from a code-perspective and we prefer clean, maintainable code and 2) we plan to enable all syscoin services on mobile (ios/android)- offers, certs, aliases, data and the other services we have on the roadmap (assets, escrow, multisig encryption and more). To facilitate this we need code that we can build on, scale, and maintain- for this reason nearly all of our "apps" are written from scratch including the mobile wallets. We will have some very cool stuff rolling out this month!
This is my first post, because i am one of the developers of one of the 'crap' Android wallet you refer. I had a lot of hope on your team, i was one of the initial investors and followed the evolution of the coin from the start, all bugs, botched releases, bad QA control, everything. And never complained once, never.
And after all that, you have the nerve to call crap to others work ? Really guys ? i sold all my coins today because you really have shown that you are just a group of childish amateurs. Also your 'team' of developers consists on just one person, you can see exactly the same style in all code. With such investment you asked from people you just have one person that does most (all ? ) coding .
You delete posts that offends your work but you are happy to call crap to other software, that i am sure you even don't understand it how hypocrite is that ?
To investors : i really hope coin succeed and you win some money, i am out of here
When I read you called that wallet crap, I cringed also. Be professional, please. There are multiple android crypto currency wallets available for open source usage and for code purchase on multiple different marketplaces. I would like to know why you are assuming the code I am speaking about is your code? I did not link to any specific code so please let me know how you are inferring that the code which I'm referring to is yours? In either case you're right using the term "crap "– was unprofessional what I should've said was we have hired a professional android developer they reviewed one of the most popular android wallets for crypto currency's and determined that it was not worth investing more time into that CodeBase. Given the scope of syscoin, it's features, and the services we want to deliver in the wallet it would be more prudent to start again from scratch. |
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Hi dev, "Guys i have launched a new merged mining pool for ultc, peseta,syscoin,lottoshares http://8pool.dtdns.net:3000I add new coin if you want I am here. Instructions for mining are in web site pool" This is great! and thx for the PM as well. We will get you added to the website and OP ASAP. |
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Moolah provided us with access to their dev's in case of need or major fail. We did not need it so far neither did the major fail occur. To be clear we used one of their devs to help provide diagnostic information during the launch related to the launch issues that will now live in infamy. Their dev also helped us setup a proper DNS node for SYS which has and continues to work very well. Aside from those two points all other development on all Syscoin github initiatives (there are many if you have't noticed) have been done entirely by the Syscoin team including remedying all the launch issues expediently. Per the Moolah statement linked to above- if one of us [devs] gets really sick or has a family emergency or something of that nature during a critical period for Syscoin or if Syscoin broke entirely and we did nothing about it or couldn't fix it- we have access to their developers for backup coverage during such situations. Neither of these situations have yet occurred.
Syscoin itself is an entirely independent open-source initiative/team. We are always looking for talented coders- especially C++ and Javascript/HTML/CSS experts with an interest in crypto. If this is you or someone you know, shoot me an email dan@syscoin.org. We are fun bunch but serious about making big moves in the crypto space in a professional manner. Our team is also one of the few coin-teams with the funding and vision to make that happen! |
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Development UpdateI hate to post this with so much positive sentiment going on but hopefully people see this as a commitment to quality - that's the truth of the matter. We're still working with with the final 0.1.5 release candidate. We are not satisfied with the level of testing that has been performed against the current candidate codebase and are going to continue to test into this weekend (10/12) to verify things before we release anything to the public. Please do realize we really have been very busy trying to get this resolved properly ASAP. Thanks everyone for your patience- we learned our lessons at launch and aren't releasing anything that's not 100%. Blog has been updated accordingly and we have posted the news on our social channels.
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I just hope this was enough to get him kicked off the entire forum and not just this thread, although I will be VERY grateful to see him gone from here. This type of disgust and disrespect will follow him to whatever threads he decides to troll! What a wonderful world we live in:-)
Let there be peace and maturity in the SysCoin community!
The mods must do due diligence before banning a user so we had to go through the motions (aka: asking politely to leave the thread) before the mods can take action even given the overwhelming amount of profanity and garbage @manbot1 has posted here and in other threads. I'm happy to announce that mod @theymos has now banned him for 7days. Hopefully this will give him time to chill out and he can rejoin us without the immaturity and profanity. If he returns with the same attitude we will ask @theymos for a much longer ban. We do apologize for those who had to deal with the garbage while we sorted this out with forum moderators. And a big THANK YOU!!! To @theymos for bringing peace to the Syscoin thread On another note we're still working hard on:- 0.1.5 RC3 [top priority] - Syscoin Blockmarket! - iOS wallet - Android wallet We are not using the crap Android wallet that every other coin clones because- 1) it is not very good from a code-perspective and we prefer clean, maintainable code and 2) we plan to enable all syscoin services on mobile (ios/android)- offers, certs, aliases, data and the other services we have on the roadmap (assets, escrow, multisig encryption and more). To facilitate this we need code that we can build on, scale, and maintain- for this reason nearly all of our "apps" are written from scratch including the mobile wallets. We will have some very cool stuff rolling out this month! |
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Please everyone click the little "report to moderator" link and demand this clown be removed from this thread!
We have requested a perma ban from board moderators. Enough is enough. Yep we have requested he be banned- I agree with everyone's statements in regards to his actions they are completely out of line and in terrible taste to put it lightly. Hi. I haven't been able to find this on this or the old threads but what are the plans for publicizing/marketing/networking after dev?
I know it's not ready to fly just yet, but is there BTC set aside for marketing? Are there plans for networking in China and E.U. like Blackcoin is doing?
Are there plans for a massive Twitter/SocMed/Viral campaign?
I'd like to help out.
Thanks!
Also just to add to what SnipSnoop said yes we do have a significant amount of BTC set aside for this type of effort and additional development as well (if BTC would just go up instead of down that'd be fantastic ) As to the specifics I'll let Mike (mwheeleruk) let you know a lil of what is coming but a lot of the efforts are intended to be big splashes as the features are fully "polished" with demos/docs/branding and all- then doing a blackcoin/bithalo/blackblox style push, fueled by that funding Some people (not you!) don't realize that just because we have a fund it doesn't mean we need to go blowing it all right away. We're doing this right and that takes time but pays off 100x. |
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Thanks everyone for the support- we have been working away at this like crazy but we are not satisfied with the level of testing applied to the current solution. While everything in the 0.1.5 RC3 development candidate seems fine we need to test it more before we release it. To be clear the previous issue that caused the postponement with encrypted wallets has been resolved sufficiently, the issue we're addressing now is different. Development UpdateWe'll be delaying the RC3 release for up to 72hrs in order to complete testing on the current candidate code- we do apologize for the delay! I've also gone ahead and updated the post on our blog with this information as well. We expect to release this sooner than 72hrs. |
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Just another update since I know 0.1.5 RC3 is due today, we are still on this last issue. Seems like something we should be able to address and still make RC3 available today.
We are revamping our entire test process since things are scaling on many fronts very rapidly- we will be moving to a test process akin to that of an enterprise software development company. This means integration tests, strict rules about unit tests, automated functional tests, etc. This is not a simple process nor am I aware of many other altcoins that exercise a process like this- if you know of one that we can use as a reference it would be very much appreciated. Short of another "altcoin" which leverages these professional processes we will be mirroring and adapting these processes from our own experience in enterprise software development (tools like Hudson/Jenkins, Maven, Any one of a number of unit testing tools, AFT tools for QT we'll need to research but something like protractor/Jasmine/Selenium for web AFT, etc). We do some unit testing of course at present, but this is a move to an entirely different scale of testing and test automation.
If you are someone who has experience in standing up this type of environment around a crypto-client or QT client, we'd love to chat with you- shoot me a PM or email.
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Don't organize development like that.
You should isolate features for 0.1.5 from the new ones of "labels for all transactions- including certs, offers, and data!", and release a bug free 0.1.5 version to end users.
the new features of "labels for all transactions- including certs, offers, and data!" should be in a separate branch, which can be called 0.1.5a and expected to be released later.
I agree, we had already implemented a labeling pattern in 0.1.5 for aliases though so natural extension to the other transaction was not only low-risk but it was also non-blocking and technically not really a "new feature" just an enhancement. I do agree though in a best-practices perspective new feature development or issue resolution is done in a separate branch, tested, reintegrated and then tested again. Keeping add new features to existing version but letting the users wait too long to get a working version is quite unprofessional.
In this situation the two are unrelated but I understand what you're getting it. We had available development bandwidth, and throwing it at the current issue holding up the release was not efficient as we already have the majority of the team working on that issue. There are other roadmap intersections at play as well but suffice it to say that adding the tx labels to the next release was something we thought people would enjoy and it did not delay the release further. |
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