all the proof you have is just that he created an account 5 days ago, it shouldn't even be in this section for lack of proof, honestly it looks like people who didn't win anything are irritated with the stake, I saw someone's post complaining about same thing
I dunno you are forgetting about this piece of hard hitting evidence: Also another user said in that thread "oh yes also most of eddies promo codes are always abc123...."
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Yes this user is indeed real, the implication that we would create a fake account to try and cheat users out of 100k of the millions in crypto given away to players this month without evidence is ridiculous. This user has been doing some massive wagering the past week and won fairly.
You guys are not even buying tickets to this raffle this is an incentive for players on top of all the regular bonuses, this reaction is disappointing.
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Hello. I open this topic because on their forum they just closed it and that was it.  I have been long player on stake, and when they introduced VIP program I was excited because wagering and playing there had its benefits, like reloads or coupons and things like that. One thing I loved the most is there was a note under reload "as platinum 3 player you will always be entitled to reload" And that is one of things what made me keep on wagering and wagering.. I've spent alot of money on wagering (I don't say that I'm overall negative because I'm not, I'm in profit ) But I feel like my rights were taken away from me . I've tried to talk to them about it but they just said no, site policy changed etc. Etc. So I went to talk to some friends I have on stake, and asked them did they lose reload and what is their wagering looking like, my conclusion was that some of them have even smaller wager then I do, over this year and still they have their reloads and all rights that VIP rank gives. So I'm quite sad about double standards and fake advertising on this site.. it used to be NR.1 site and now it treats players like shit just because they can. If you're not actively playing on the website I don't understand why you would be granted the same level of VIP benefits forever. Otherwise people can just buy everyone's accounts and claim unlimited rewards forever. Bonuses are not entitlements to players and are incentives for active users. It's obviously unfortunate that we can't just give non-depositing players the same amount of money forever as when they used to deposit but I don't see how this is a scam. Most casinos are not even offering any rewards let alone at the level stake provides. |
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With that said, I could start setting reloads again in the future based on your gameplay increasing - $50k wager in a month - You can check this progress by requesting your statistics under your profile.
Also when I was receiving those amounts in reloads there were only around 750-1000 people online as seen from the chat statistics.
While when I checked yesterday there were 6111 users active on the site.
If they really working in this way then lots of user will loss their reload feature. Because wagering $50k on each month isn't possible always. Maybe they could make a requirement of deposits. Stake has gained lots of user with their legitimate, wide variety of games and specially for the bonus system. If they are unable to handle this much traffic on their site then there is a high chance of losing some old loyal users. The number of online user goes above 10k-12k during bonus time. I haven't faced this situation yet. But we may face it too in the near future, who knows! In the VIP club page Stake team said that, “With availability suited to your timezone, your VIP host will beat any benefits other sites are offering.” But in reality, other casinos are offering similar type of bonus now. And Stake will fall behind by changing their bonus system! We're working on scaling our VIP host support. In an ideal world every player would get a VIP host regardless of how much they were wagering. It takes time to train someone up to a point where they can manage high value players effectively. Reality is we've 10x'd our player count the past year while being unable to scale staff headcount to deal with that but we are slowly catching up. There's no excuse for disappointing our players especially Platinum VIP's, we'll keep working hard and try and improve. |
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Ok, anyone who wagered on Sherrif, and not only did that as a single bet but also did that as a combined bet, with brugge as well!! Is a freaking genius. That guy has managed to do something I wouldn't have the courage to do by betting on Brugge, and to add Sherrif beating Real Madrid on that? That is just unfair, that is just unbelievable, it is seriously something I would have not guessed at all given the chance. It is certainly one of the best bets I have seen, this slip is by far the riskiest parlay I have ever seen in my life in a short span of games. Forget about the Liverpool and PSG games (and PSG wasn't even seen as favorites neither), and even that last two with 6.80 and 27.00 was good enough to be a wild crazy bet, dude has some huge cojones to make a bet like that. He definitely deserved this win and that much amount in return. Pretty nuts indeed, coupled by the fact that this player has placed very few bets and did not cash this one out early. Was not the type of situation where someone was placing 100s of tough multis and one of them hits. https://stake.com/sports/home/outrights?iid=sport%3A16129812&modal=bet |
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Logs are indicating that you are using a popular VPN, which is causing wrong cashout value and before successful cashout, the page must be refreshed/updated to show the right value at the moment. This is a common problem for VPN users regarding cashout since their page is updating slowly due to a lot of players "from the same IP" getting rate limited. This was explained to you by support, I recommend not using a VPN in the future if you want more reliability around cashing out. I think what Darko is saying is that it wasn't a glitch. The 10 rejected bets were rejected because the price was wrong, then it updated and was accepted.
In the end, youre claiming at the exact moment the cashout was accepted, Karatzev was 1.75 and Swiatek was 1.3. Darko says Karatzev was 3.5 and Swiatek 2.1
If Darkos numbers are accurate, then your 2700 payout wasn't a glitch, it was just an offer with almost 40% vig (cashouts are almost always horrible 40% is believable from what I've seen offered).
If your numbers are right you should be able to line up the time the cashout happened with the current state of each match in real time. Both Karatzev and Swiatek went from favorites to underdogs at some point, and it happened before Sinner started to melt down, but after your bet was cashed out.
Also, don't blame your vip host or argue with them about this. It's not their fault, there's nothing they can do, and it's just dumb to be anything but nice to them.
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 Real happy with this result! What a way to kick off the season I have to say this Watford that we watched looks so much different than the Watford we last saw in premier league. I am sure they are going to stay this season, we can't possibly know the future so they may not have a great season, it was just one game. However it is obvious that it is a different team, we could at least say that, it is definitely a different team and that is why I honestly believe that they could end up at mid table easily this season if they play this way for every games in the future. Stake did a real good job by getting them, sportsbet.io faced the worst parts of them, but now they are gone and the good parts are taken over by stake, it is really a smart move and I believe that it is one that both stake and Watford could benefit together, Watford financially and stake in recognition as well which is the whole reason for marketing anyway. from my way of seeing Watford FC is not strong, they lost against crystal palace in friendly game, then they drew against stevenage in friendly game too, but they beat aston villa by 3 - 2, we could say they are strong and can stay in the premier league this time? i don't think i'm convinced they can get above the last 4 places in the premier league unless of course watford can win the next 5 games or at least he can win 3 games and draw 2 games to convince me they can stay in the 4 last places in the premier league. however the fact that they are back at the premier leegue brings a lot of exposure to Stake.com I was concerned during the pre-season but friendlies usually don't tell the whole picture. Watford looked so dominant in the Aston Villa game, with 7 shots on target versus Villa's 2. There is no doubt that they are the underdogs of the league but so far so good. |
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No more answer Stunna?
This bet was voided and the odds displayed were incorrect enough (~3.2 v 2.3) that a ton of players hopped on it and put the max possible bet in on not just our website but others using the same odds. Our odds supplier voided this as quickly as they could and I am not surprised at all that they did void it. Our odds supplier reserves the right to void bets, to make the claim that we did this over some marginal difference is incorrect. I also do not believe you would have put the max bet in on both our website and sportsbetio and potentially others unless you detected this yourself. I don't always agree with voidings but in this situation I do, and with the information you shared I do not feel comfortable reverting the void especially given your account history. If this bet went on to lose we would not be not having this conversation. This decision is final |
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Real happy with this result! What a way to kick off the season |
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Wow! Now it gets even more rediculous!!! You're saying my bets were placed in the 8th inning?? Your system must be really messed up........what is your time stamp for when the top 9th inning started then? And time stamp for when the bottom 9th inning started? And the 2 most important questions which you still did not answer: what is the time stamp of the void? That is very basic info that should be available to customers.
And what should the correct odds have been on offer for my 2 bets? To know that odds were wrong, you have to know what the correct odds should have been....so that is the least I deserve to know.
Your bets were placed in the 8th inning, it is not just our system that suggests this. That Bet365 screenshot I posted came after you had placed your bet and even on there it is indicating 8th inning. You have the timestamps for your bets as well and can verify this information. The correct odds should have been slightly better than the Bet365 odds posted above. Obviously we do not know what the exact odds would have been because our odds provider gave us the incorrect odds. I will check and find out at what point this bet was voided, but as you have already established given your voids on other websites, this was not something that Stake has done it was a recall across all the websites. The implication that the bet was somehow voided because yours went on to win or because of how the match went is simply not true. You can only know odds were incorrect if you compare them to the odds which would have been correct......so they do know what the correct odds must have been.....I'll gladly hear those odds. If it's really true that my bets were placed in the bottom of the 8th inning then I apparently don't remember it exactly....I was 99% sure it was in the bottom of the 9th. But this makes the void even more crazy because that would mean your odds provider, even though you said they immediatley realized they were offering wrong odds, waited out the bottom of the 8th, top of the 9th, bottom of the 9th and a couple minutes into the top of the 10th before they voided.....because I saw with my own eyes that the void appeared (a sudden credit of funds to my Stake account) about 1 minute after the 2 runs were scored to make the score 4-2. If this is the case then your thought that it was a quick void is certainly not true and then there must have been at least 30 mins in between my bet placement and the void time even. That is why I would like to hear the void time stamp please. Voids do not happen instantly, the process can take time as they have to filter out the correct bets to void and then send out communications to all the bookmakers. We received communications of the bet being voided at 5:53 UTC. |
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Wow! Now it gets even more rediculous!!! You're saying my bets were placed in the 8th inning?? Your system must be really messed up........what is your time stamp for when the top 9th inning started then? And time stamp for when the bottom 9th inning started? And the 2 most important questions which you still did not answer: what is the time stamp of the void? That is very basic info that should be available to customers.
And what should the correct odds have been on offer for my 2 bets? To know that odds were wrong, you have to know what the correct odds should have been....so that is the least I deserve to know.
Your bets were placed in the 8th inning, it is not just our system that suggests this. That Bet365 screenshot I posted came after you had placed your bet and even on there it is indicating 8th inning. You have the timestamps for your bets as well and can verify this information. The correct odds should have been slightly better than the Bet365 odds posted above. Obviously we do not know what the exact odds would have been because our odds provider gave us the incorrect odds. I will check and find out at what point this bet was voided, but as you have already established given your voids on other websites, this was not something that Stake has done it was a recall across all the websites. The implication that the bet was somehow voided because yours went on to win or because of how the match went is simply not true. |
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Hi Jason,
We have the odds of when this void occurred. Our odds provider had completely priced this wrong compared to elsewhere it wasn't in line with the market as you have said. And you picked up this bet on both Stake and sportsbetio and maybe other places using the same odds provider. With all due respect during this short window why are you hammering this same bet down on multiple different sportsbooks with the same odds provider. If Steve knew that I would be surprised if he still refunded.
I find it hard to believe that you thought these odds were indeed correct. Given what you have shared you confirmed that it was not us and our odds provider that voided this bet across many different websites. In some rare cases we can choose to refund these for recreational players but in this example I don't feel confident to override this voided bet for you.
For those not aware on rare occasion odds providers massively screw up a market and these bets tend to get piled on by people who have bots scraping all the odds, that is why in this type of circumstance the providers will void these bets. This bet was voided regardless of whether it went on to win or lose.
The reason why I bet this same bet in 2 different bookmakers (Stake and Sportsbet) was because my limits on Stake did not allow me more than the 45mbtc I could stake. And my usual stake is around 80mbtc on most bets. This was also the case with my earlier bets in Stake. "completely priced this wrong" and "massively screw up the market"  Do you realize it was a tied score with the pre-match favourite Dodgers playing at home to the Angels, and they still had the bottom of the 9th inning as a free shot to win the game. Any score in the bottom of the 9th and the bet is immediately a loser. That is massive risk for a bet on the Angels.....odds around 3,00 are completely normal there. Did you watch the screenshots I posted here above of the exact same game one day later? Where you had completely comparable odds of around 3,30 for the Angels with an also tied score late in the game? And at some point even 5,10 odds when the score was still tied and no men were on base.....did you void bets on that too? But what I am most curious about.....what should the correct odds have been for my 2 bets then? When I bet it at 2,95 what were the intended odds of the provider? And when I bet the 3,20 odds what were the intended odds? You cannot just say odds were wrong without mentioning what the odds should have been then......so please tell And you're saying the bet was void no matter the outcome.....welll what a coincidence then that it took your provider 20 minutes since bet placement......and very conveniently just 1 minute after the Angels scored 2 runs it was voided.....do you really think that is a coincidence? If the odds were so clearly wrong, it should have been void within 3 minutes.......it should not be rocket science to void a bet so it should never have to take 20 minutes. Btw, the odds on the Angels after the 9th inning was completed were 2.30. And this was outside the timeframe which your CS gave me for the alleged "wrong odds". So that means at that point the 2.30 odds were correct and your odds provider will also confirm this. This is after having survived the bottom of the 9th......so at the time of my bets the odds for sure should have been clearly higher than 2.30.......at the very very least 2,80. So if the odds were any wrong which I still don't believe, then it was only a few percent off.......then you can void hundreds of bets each week.....and also peculiar is that the markets never got suspended....odds just kept moving like normal in small increments.....the system seemed to work just fine....no technical errors it seemed.....so how can there still be wrong odds offered then? A live bet void should be an absolutely LAST resort for a completely mispriced bet....for example offering inversed odds or setting the comma wrong or so.....then I would understand....the way it happened now was just filthy behaviour of your odds provider. I think you should ask your odds provider what the correct odds should have been.....and pay me out at those odds. I will accept that as a solution no matter which odds they will mention. If not then I will keep fighting for justice and file complaints at several places. This just went too far to just swallow it. My account at Stake is in minus btw....I have lost way more than I won. This won bet would have made me reach around break even, so it's even more painful. To reference a different game in terms of what the odds should have been does not make sense. I can show you the odds on the same game from other sportsbooks at the time you put your bet down:  That is on Bet365, to claim it is a few percent off is not true or fair. This was clearly an error and not a marginal voiding, we were aware of the issue when you placed your bet and then our odds provider voided it quickly. Hahaha if you're gonna post screenshots of other bookmakers, then do it correctly. You posted odds of the bottom of the 8th inning and with a man on base and 2 outs......my bets were in the bottom of the 9th and no men on base and no outs. So completely wrong info from your side here. Timestamp of the screenshot is 5:20:39 UTC, your second bet was placed at 5:20:05 UTC. This screenshot of Bet365 was taken after your bet was placed, I've cropped out your bet from that screenshot because there is some sensitive info. So to give you some closure we loaded up your two bets to verify when they were placed. You can confirm the times from your Betslip as well. That was the 8th inning bottom.  I've been in this community for over 8 years I'm not going to sit here and argue to try and deny you a few hundred bucks unless I was positive that you were not owed them. And regardless of all of these facts i have presented, those bets were voided by our odds provider as in regardless of whether it won or lost it would have still been voided. Steve was nice enough to act in good faith but every once in a while I like to do my homework  |
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Hi Jason,
We have the odds of when this void occurred. Our odds provider had completely priced this wrong compared to elsewhere it wasn't in line with the market as you have said. And you picked up this bet on both Stake and sportsbetio and maybe other places using the same odds provider. With all due respect during this short window why are you hammering this same bet down on multiple different sportsbooks with the same odds provider. If Steve knew that I would be surprised if he still refunded.
I find it hard to believe that you thought these odds were indeed correct. Given what you have shared you confirmed that it was not us and our odds provider that voided this bet across many different websites. In some rare cases we can choose to refund these for recreational players but in this example I don't feel confident to override this voided bet for you.
For those not aware on rare occasion odds providers massively screw up a market and these bets tend to get piled on by people who have bots scraping all the odds, that is why in this type of circumstance the providers will void these bets. This bet was voided regardless of whether it went on to win or lose.
The reason why I bet this same bet in 2 different bookmakers (Stake and Sportsbet) was because my limits on Stake did not allow me more than the 45mbtc I could stake. And my usual stake is around 80mbtc on most bets. This was also the case with my earlier bets in Stake. "completely priced this wrong" and "massively screw up the market" Do you realize it was a tied score with the pre-match favourite Dodgers playing at home to the Angels, and they still had the bottom of the 9th inning as a free shot to win the game. Any score in the bottom of the 9th and the bet is immediately a loser. That is massive risk for a bet on the Angels.....odds around 3,00 are completely normal there. Did you watch the screenshots I posted here above of the exact same game one day later? Where you had completely comparable odds of around 3,30 for the Angels with an also tied score late in the game? And at some point even 5,10 odds when the score was still tied and no men were on base.....did you void bets on that too? But what I am most curious about.....what should the correct odds have been for my 2 bets then? When I bet it at 2,95 what were the intended odds of the provider? And when I bet the 3,20 odds what were the intended odds? You cannot just say odds were wrong without mentioning what the odds should have been then......so please tell And you're saying the bet was void no matter the outcome.....welll what a coincidence then that it took your provider 20 minutes since bet placement......and very conveniently just 1 minute after the Angels scored 2 runs it was voided.....do you really think that is a coincidence? If the odds were so clearly wrong, it should have been void within 3 minutes.......it should not be rocket science to void a bet so it should never have to take 20 minutes. Btw, the odds on the Angels after the 9th inning was completed were 2.30. And this was outside the timeframe which your CS gave me for the alleged "wrong odds". So that means at that point the 2.30 odds were correct and your odds provider will also confirm this. This is after having survived the bottom of the 9th......so at the time of my bets the odds for sure should have been clearly higher than 2.30.......at the very very least 2,80. So if the odds were any wrong which I still don't believe, then it was only a few percent off.......then you can void hundreds of bets each week.....and also peculiar is that the markets never got suspended....odds just kept moving like normal in small increments.....the system seemed to work just fine....no technical errors it seemed.....so how can there still be wrong odds offered then? A live bet void should be an absolutely LAST resort for a completely mispriced bet....for example offering inversed odds or setting the comma wrong or so.....then I would understand....the way it happened now was just filthy behaviour of your odds provider. I think you should ask your odds provider what the correct odds should have been.....and pay me out at those odds. I will accept that as a solution no matter which odds they will mention. If not then I will keep fighting for justice and file complaints at several places. This just went too far to just swallow it. My account at Stake is in minus btw....I have lost way more than I won. This won bet would have made me reach around break even, so it's even more painful. To reference a different game in terms of what the odds should have been does not make sense. I can show you the odds on the same game from other sportsbooks at the time you put your bet down: That is on Bet365, to claim it is a few percent off is not true or fair. This was clearly an error and not a marginal voiding, we were aware of the issue when you placed your bet and then our odds provider voided it quickly. |
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Hi Jason,
We have the odds of when this void occurred. Our odds provider had completely priced this wrong compared to elsewhere it wasn't in line with the market as you have said. And you picked up this bet on both Stake and sportsbetio and maybe other places using the same odds provider. With all due respect during this short window why are you hammering this same bet down on multiple different sportsbooks with the same odds provider. If Steve knew that I would be surprised if he still refunded.
I find it hard to believe that you thought these odds were indeed correct. Given what you have shared you confirmed that it was not us and our odds provider that voided this bet across many different websites. In some rare cases we can choose to refund these for recreational players but in this example I don't feel confident to override this voided bet for you.
For those not aware on rare occasion odds providers massively screw up a market and these bets tend to get piled on by people who have bots scraping all the odds, that is why in this type of circumstance the providers will void these bets. This bet was voided regardless of whether it went on to win or lose.
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Thanks, we've been in crypto gambling over 8 years now and it has been a thrilling ride to watch this brand start from zero and grow into a global name.
Congratulations, why is it "Stake turning 4" though when you've been here to 8 years already, it's indeed a thrilling ride and I feel like with your current business model and the prosperity that you're enjoying right now, we might see your company get much bigger. Again, a big congratulations to you and the team behind Stake. We started working on primedice in late 2012 before we had stake |
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Congratulations on your 4 years of consistent and excellent service in the forum, cheers to more years in the online and crypto space. This is probably your biggest highlight of the year followed by Adesanya joining you in promoting the site on the octagon for millions of viewers to see.
Thanks, we've been in crypto gambling over 8 years now and it has been a thrilling ride to watch this brand start from zero and grow into a global name. Forever grateful to this community for giving us our start, where would we be without bitcointalk I wonder. |
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@Stunna welcome to the premier league and I hope that Watford justifies your sponsorship, though I haven’t really followed them but I wish it works for them and you in the league. Also about launching in UK are the new rules being applied to you as I had read gambling sites would face fresh scrutiny. Thanks, we are quite excited. Indeed, that operation will be separate to stake.com and done differently to comply with the local regulations. |
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About which promotion are you talking about precisely? You could get the NBA finals double winnings promotion if you had bet on the Bucks. You would just need 6+ assists from Giannis Antetokounmpo to get it. And this is exactly what Antetokounmpo did : 6 assists https://promotions.stake.com/nba-finals-2021/If you are talking about the risk-free bet from Eddie it wasn't a bet on the winner market but on the HT/FT market and you needed to have at least one lottery ticket to be eligible for the offer. I was talking about the risk-free bet and Eddie's pick (Suns HT/FT) which ended in a loss lost but its a good thing there's guaranteed returns for everyone who lost so far they've a lottery ticket or wagered at least $1k in the last week. Talking about the NBA finals double winnings, I'm aware of the promo. As a matter of fact, I was one of the winners of double winnings in game 3 of the finals which marked Bucks first win in the series. Loving the promos at stake so far. Hopefully they can keep it up. For NBA, I like the 14+ points lead and double winnings promo. Rocks big time. 14+ while not super economical has been super popular and we definitely want to keep it going. Crazy that last game it was triggered within the first quarter! Glad you're enjoying these promos, we'll keep them coming! |
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Bitcointalk is an awesome forum in terms of users being able to get their story heard and get public opinions and a response from brands here. Over the years we've had to deal with a number of unsavory individuals that make newbie accounts to get their stories out and take advantage of the trust of the community. Normally we do not like to give these guys the credit of a response but given the attention this thread has generated we feel like we must. Alzheimersline was frozen because this user is heavily linked to the theft of large amounts of money from slots abuse. rn7TFkRz9PZ2Cn9xwHh71TzkKPUrBhBdyc:0 is the ripple address that Alzheimersline consistently withdrew large amounts of ripple to. This is the same address that a number of accounts responsible for abusing Playson games for $100k+ were utilizing as well. We were able to link these accounts by other means as well but do not want to disclose everything here right now as to not make it easier for him to abuse in the future.  These are some of the accounts linked to the $100k+ Playson games exploit confirmed by their company: Playson: I finally got an update regarding the situation around the abuse, our technical team managed to reproduce the case and approved that the player using the specifics of the BJ protocol did the malicious exploitation of it. Such an malicious and unexpected activity beyond the standard operation of the client-server protocol provided him with a probability to get higher chance to win.
By for now we are working on the solution to fix the vulnerability asap.
These accounts were once again then linked to further theft on GameArt by the account dchil0007 GameArt: yes, the winning is not legit because the player accessed the game in the way to manipulate the RGS and the winning. Please note that we added a an extra security label to prevent it. I will send you the report but the winning has to be voided and as we spoke not paid to the player. To take this even further, we asked AlzheimersLine to have a video call with us and surprisingly he agreed. On this video call, the person talking to us did not know what bitcointalk was, and supplied a bunch of inaccurate information. It was very obvious that this person was not AlzheimersLine but someone offered a cut by the abuser to try and pass our compliance and gain our confidence. The individual posting here is not the same person. Really not an unusual situation for us, abusers in the past have always used bitcointalk and accomplices to try and deceive. We've been doing crypto gambling for over 8 years, and I like to think that we have learned a few things since hufflepuff. In this case, this user and their accounts were frozen due to their sloppiness on multiple fronts which linked them to major thefts from Stake and these same exploits were used to exploit other websites in this community. |
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