Thanks for all the warm words! What you said, and reaction of people in the Chat almost made me change my mind :-)
But seriously, I am not saying "never", so maybe YD will have it's comeback. I just don't know yet.
THANK YOU! It's really hard to express how much I will miss YD, and how much I am happy for these 4 years - it was really fun. But as I hinted in the explanation, the real-world value of coins are kind of killing the fun. Not to mention the crazy transaction fees that kill the fun completely for smaller players.
No worries, I cannot stand doing just nothing, so I'll probably come back with something new. Maybe a distributed, consensus-based, verifiable game?
Thanks again, I'll stick around!
Cheers,
Ethan
Sad to see one of the last few dice sites go :\ You guys had an awesome run, looking forward to seeing your next big project |
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You did not self-exclude from the website. You turned down the self-exclusion program and asked support to basically have the casino inaccessible to you which is not apart of self exclusion. Then you went directly to your VIP manager to have that flag removed in the future. Stake has never had any formal protocol around this block casino flag that was asked for by a few sports players. Our self exclusion policy can be found here. https://stake.com/policies/self-exclusion We do not differentiate sports betting & casino betting as different forms of gambling. If you have a problem then both should be avoided. Also I've identified that you had been using multiple accounts on casino the entire time even recently so I do not see how even if we had done this readily if it would have been preventative enough. What is clear to me is that the entire self-exclusion process should be a self-service system and involve a ban of the entire platform. |
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Stakes position is that they “used poor judgement and should have served me better” but there will be no compensation.
I expect that from a shady casino like cloudbet not stake.
I’m still hopeful someone at stake will look at the entire picture of what happened and reconsider.
It seems contradictory to say they made poor judgement but are keeping all the proceeds from that poor judgement
This is definitely not a good look for Stake but I do think the complaint being laid out here is quite biased as well. This user first off lost the vast majority of those funds sportsbetting which they did not request a block from and almost all if not all the funds were earned from the stake affiliate program They were on a number of occasions encouraged to stop betting and stick to referring players to the casino but did not agree with doing a self exclusion. I find this claim a bit questionable given both the amounts claimed and because they were messaging me anonymously trying to build up this argument while continuing to bet under the impression that they would get reimbursed. If you were to make an unbiased claim you would have suggested that it would be the amount of money that you lost on the casino after this restriction was removed. It is very convenient but unfair argument to look at crypto prices being what they are and demanding all your historical losses back over the past year or two. Last year this player specifically asked to have just the casino blocked, instead of your account fully restricted/banned. (full self exclusion). This was just a simple flag added to your account to block access to the casino. Then they went to their VIP manager directly who you had a unique relationship with as a major affiliate and asked him to remove the flag. Since this is not a self exclusion and has no surrounding protocol, he reluctantly obliged under pressure. There was no ill intent here, even in your conversations you sent me you are repeatedly encouraged to stop spending all your affiliate earnings on Stake. Clearly some poor protocol and judgement on our side. With our self-exclusion system any player who goes through the correct process will never have their account unrestricted. As I stated in my previous messages to you, I recommended you cease gambling entirely when you told me you had issues with the casino only but were still sports betting, self exclusion really only works if a player is ceasing all gambling. This whole 'block casino only' thing was really just a incentive provided to the player when they asked. This however did not fall under the umbrella of the self-exclusion program which is perhaps an oversight. Please see https://stake.com/policies/self-exclusion it was poor judgement on our side that we did not sooner ban your account when you were displaying issues with gambling, at many points you were encouraged to control your betting, it is obviously a challenging situation for both sides because you did not want to stop and would not have reacted well to having your account banned at that point. There has already been an internal convo regarding all of this and we will make improvements to our protocol and we sincerely apologize for not serving you better. The decision to make is whether or not to weave blocking one part of the website into self-exclusion protocols or whether to just encourage full self exclusion only. #1 The amount listed is the amount I have lost on the casino side since the first permanent exclusion. It does not factor in sportsbook losses during this period. So, that's not biased at all. Please run your numbers and verify. I welcome it. My claim is for casino losses only. #2 Where my funds came from is completely irrelevant to the issue at hand. It's as if you are saying my earned affiliate money is somehow exempt from rules and shouldn't be treated as seriously as cash from another job? I am under no obligation to deposit my affiliate cash and play, nor was it the only source of deposited funds. #3 You said it was removed "under pressure" that is blatantly false. With your permission I will post the private telegram message showing my request to the owner as proof. #4 Thank you for mentioning I was repeatedly advised to stop gambling. I am glad to see you recognize my problem was known, even before the permanent casino exclusion requests #5 It is curious that my issues and requests were not taken seriously until this week when I finally raised a dispute #6 You stated I did not want to stop. Thats an odd thing to say to someone who multiple times requested a permanent casino ban. As mentioned above, it was finally taken serious this week after I raised a complaint and my account has been fully locked. Since then, I havent wagered a dime at stake or anywhere else. #7 You seem to imply Staked asked me if I wanted a full self exclusion. That did happen one time, this week, after i raised my complaint. NEVER happened prior to that. When I approached Stake this week about my concerns, I did not make a specific demand, I laid out the situation of events, told them of the struggle ive been going through. I did not have specific expectations. I was immediately dismissed, basically told to get lost. You raise some fair points, the crux of all of this is that we need to make improvements to our exclusion system and make it simple and straightforward. The only aspect of this I did not appreciate is the way you handled the actual complaint process where you apparently deleted your record of telegram messages and then sent me anonymous messages trying to pre-meditate this claim. Otherwise it would have been handled more amicably from my side. I will personally see that changes are made and update you on my progress. In other words, sorry we made mistakes and used poor judgement, but we will be keeping all proceeds from these mistakes I'm unable to even be more thorough in my correspondence and even make a fair argument because you have screenshotted what you wanted and then deleted all other logs. |
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Stakes position is that they “used poor judgement and should have served me better” but there will be no compensation.
I expect that from a shady casino like cloudbet not stake.
I’m still hopeful someone at stake will look at the entire picture of what happened and reconsider.
It seems contradictory to say they made poor judgement but are keeping all the proceeds from that poor judgement
This is definitely not a good look for Stake but I do think the complaint being laid out here is quite biased as well. This user first off lost the vast majority of those funds sportsbetting which they did not request a block from and almost all if not all the funds were earned from the stake affiliate program They were on a number of occasions encouraged to stop betting and stick to referring players to the casino but did not agree with doing a self exclusion. I find this claim a bit questionable given both the amounts claimed and because they were messaging me anonymously trying to build up this argument while continuing to bet under the impression that they would get reimbursed. If you were to make an unbiased claim you would have suggested that it would be the amount of money that you lost on the casino after this restriction was removed. It is very convenient but unfair argument to look at crypto prices being what they are and demanding all your historical losses back over the past year or two. Last year this player specifically asked to have just the casino blocked, instead of your account fully restricted/banned. (full self exclusion). This was just a simple flag added to your account to block access to the casino. Then they went to their VIP manager directly who you had a unique relationship with as a major affiliate and asked him to remove the flag. Since this is not a self exclusion and has no surrounding protocol, he reluctantly obliged under pressure. There was no ill intent here, even in your conversations you sent me you are repeatedly encouraged to stop spending all your affiliate earnings on Stake. Clearly some poor protocol and judgement on our side. With our self-exclusion system any player who goes through the correct process will never have their account unrestricted. As I stated in my previous messages to you, I recommended you cease gambling entirely when you told me you had issues with the casino only but were still sports betting, self exclusion really only works if a player is ceasing all gambling. This whole 'block casino only' thing was really just a incentive provided to the player when they asked. This however did not fall under the umbrella of the self-exclusion program which is perhaps an oversight. Please see https://stake.com/policies/self-exclusion it was poor judgement on our side that we did not sooner ban your account when you were displaying issues with gambling, at many points you were encouraged to control your betting, it is obviously a challenging situation for both sides because you did not want to stop and would not have reacted well to having your account banned at that point. There has already been an internal convo regarding all of this and we will make improvements to our protocol and we sincerely apologize for not serving you better. The decision to make is whether or not to weave blocking one part of the website into self-exclusion protocols or whether to just encourage full self exclusion only. #1 The amount listed is the amount I have lost on the casino side since the first permanent exclusion. It does not factor in sportsbook losses during this period. So, that's not biased at all. Please run your numbers and verify. I welcome it. My claim is for casino losses only. #2 Where my funds came from is completely irrelevant to the issue at hand. It's as if you are saying my earned affiliate money is somehow exempt from rules and shouldn't be treated as seriously as cash from another job? I am under no obligation to deposit my affiliate cash and play, nor was it the only source of deposited funds. #3 You said it was removed "under pressure" that is blatantly false. With your permission I will post the private telegram message showing my request to the owner as proof. #4 Thank you for mentioning I was repeatedly advised to stop gambling. I am glad to see you recognize my problem was known, even before the permanent casino exclusion requests #5 It is curious that my issues and requests were not taken seriously until this week when I finally raised a dispute #6 You stated I did not want to stop. Thats an odd thing to say to someone who multiple times requested a permanent casino ban. As mentioned above, it was finally taken serious this week after I raised a complaint and my account has been fully locked. Since then, I havent wagered a dime at stake or anywhere else. #7 You seem to imply Staked asked me if I wanted a full self exclusion. That did happen one time, this week, after i raised my complaint. NEVER happened prior to that. When I approached Stake this week about my concerns, I did not make a specific demand, I laid out the situation of events, told them of the struggle ive been going through. I did not have specific expectations. I was immediately dismissed, basically told to get lost. You raise some fair points, the crux of all of this is that we need to make improvements to our exclusion system and make it simple and straightforward. The only aspect of this I did not appreciate is the way you handled the actual complaint process where you apparently deleted your record of telegram messages and then sent me anonymous messages trying to pre-meditate this claim. Otherwise it would have been handled more amicably from my side. I will personally see that changes are made and update you on my progress. |
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Stakes position is that they “used poor judgement and should have served me better” but there will be no compensation.
I expect that from a shady casino like cloudbet not stake.
I’m still hopeful someone at stake will look at the entire picture of what happened and reconsider.
It seems contradictory to say they made poor judgement but are keeping all the proceeds from that poor judgement
This is definitely not a good look for Stake but I do think the complaint being laid out here is quite biased as well. This user first off lost the vast majority of those funds sportsbetting which they did not request a block from and almost all if not all the funds were earned from the stake affiliate program They were on a number of occasions encouraged to stop betting and stick to referring players to the casino but did not agree with doing a self exclusion. I find this claim a bit questionable given both the amounts claimed and because they were messaging me anonymously trying to build up this argument while continuing to bet under the impression that they would get reimbursed. If you were to make an unbiased claim you would have suggested that it would be the amount of money that you lost on the casino after this restriction was removed. It is very convenient but unfair argument to look at crypto prices being what they are and demanding all your historical losses back over the past year or two. Last year this player specifically asked to have just the casino blocked, instead of your account fully restricted/banned. (full self exclusion). This was just a simple flag added to your account to block access to the casino. Then they went to their VIP manager directly who you had a unique relationship with as a major affiliate and asked him to remove the flag. Since this is not a self exclusion and has no surrounding protocol, he reluctantly obliged under pressure. There was no ill intent here, even in your conversations you sent me you are repeatedly encouraged to stop spending all your affiliate earnings on Stake. Clearly some poor protocol and judgement on our side. With our self-exclusion system any player who goes through the correct process will never have their account unrestricted. As I stated in my previous messages to you, I recommended you cease gambling entirely when you told me you had issues with the casino only but were still sports betting, self exclusion really only works if a player is ceasing all gambling. This whole 'block casino only' thing was really just a incentive provided to the player when they asked. This however did not fall under the umbrella of the self-exclusion program which is perhaps an oversight. Please see https://stake.com/policies/self-exclusion it was poor judgement on our side that we did not sooner ban your account when you were displaying issues with gambling, at many points you were encouraged to control your betting, it is obviously a challenging situation for both sides because you did not want to stop and would not have reacted well to having your account banned at that point. There has already been an internal convo regarding all of this and we will make improvements to our protocol and we sincerely apologize for not serving you better. The decision to make is whether or not to weave blocking one part of the website into self-exclusion protocols or whether to just encourage full self exclusion only. |
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Stream is available worldwide except for Canada! I'm betting all my doge on tom brady  14+ Promo has been hit!!!! Early payout for those who bet on Tampa, which is good because we all know not to count out mahomes. |
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 Happy to announce that Stake will have livestreaming for the big game Monday!! The official non-delay stream, a rare privilege that few betting sites globally will offer. To back that up we've also got two amazing promotions. We brought back the 14+ promo from last year that was so popular. And added a double win promo. Double Winnings
Earn Double Winnings on your selections if the quarterback from your selection reaches 325+ passing yards! If you have bet on Tampa Bay, you will of course be cheering on Tom Brady for 325+ passing yards. Kansas City punters, you'll be watching Patrick Mahomes. 14+ Pay Out
If your selection leads by 14+ points at any point, you will be paid out as a winner, even if your selection loses! more details: https://promotions.stake.com/tampa-kansas-promo/ |
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'Your withdrawal will have 0.00030000 subtracted from your remaining balance to cover the fee required to process the transaction."
Thats 10$ withdrawal fee, are you crazy?
At the moment 25sat/b would be way enough. This site really is robbing its players. How often do you want to raise the withdrawal fee?
I had 0.0015 on a wallet I wanted to close, so I deposited it. Because of a relatively high fee I only got 0.00136 cause I wanted the funds fast.
Tried to bet it all on Korean basketball but didnt even let me bet 0.001 (thats below 30$ limit, haha) on moneyline so I bet half on moneyline and half on handicap.
So I won and now have 0.00263 in my account. If you deduct another 0.0003 for the withdrawal my end result is 0.00233 from starting 0.0015 although I won an 1.92 bet. WOW.
Even nitrogen sports charges 0.0001 for a withdrawal (with giving 1 free withdrawal every week) .
People don't stop complaining about withdrawal fee. If you don't agree with the fee, don't deposit your money on here. If you like other site, just playing on there without complaining other site. Each site has their own fee, if you don't like it, just leave it. Fyi there are lot of site which charge even 0.001 - 0.0015 btc for each withdrawal (not only talking about gambling site) You dont get it dont you. They raised the withdrawal fee yet again. So people should check how much the withdrawal fee is raised to today before they deposit? Give me a break. We are always subsidizing part of the fee for users. Our goal is to continue to do so but we cannot subsidize 90% of the fee. https://ycharts.com/indicators/bitcoin_average_transaction_fee#:~:text=Basic%20Info&text=Bitcoin%20Average%20Transaction%20Fee%20is,K%25%20from%20one%20year%20ago. For the past 2 months the fee was ~$2 we charged users while we were often paying $10+ out of pocket. Between BTC and ETH we would have spent hundreds of thousands this month alone in fee subsidies for users which gets unsustainable when users are using stake as a wallet to avoid paying normal fees. We will keep our fee under the current transaction fee so users will still benefit. As the network normalizes and fees come back down our fee passed to users will be reduced further. We are working on making it so users can set a custom fee |
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We are hoping to do some bitcoin giveaways with Adesanya and will definitely utilize this opportunity to spread bitcoin promotion & love to his fanbase. We really think Adesanya has the ability to be a Triple champ 3 belt holder and are making a bet on him. For those not overly familiar this video is one of my favorites: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0efQioVlZECould you reveal the secret and say where this giveaway will be held ? On Bitcointalk or on stake.com forum? Maybe on a stake.com page or even on Adesanya social media accounts? Btw, is Israel interested in cryptocurrency or he accepted a title of ambassador because he is only interested in money? He's more tech forward than your average UFC fighter, really a nerdy guy to be honest which is totally awesome. Actually the first Bitcoin UFC deal, paid for with BTC |
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Prime Dice's Jackpot, in case you weren't aware, gives you the chance to win a large amount by rolling 77.77 twice consecutively. I was wondering whether this could turn out to be statistically profitable in the long run? I found some really nice research, which will explain the whole process of working it out and the setting to use, if you're interested: https://bitroll.com/crypto-dice-guide/your-chance-of-winning-the-primedice-jackpot/Basically, it looks as though the jackpot as to hit a pretty high amount before you can be guaranteed profit. Have any of you guys ever managed to win the jackpot? The jackpot was this cool little feature when it came out but I can't help but think that we could have done a better job. The odds of winning it are really quite low and then you have to have bet a certain amount to activate the highest level of the reward. This is definitely something we would like to change/rework this year. For such a tremendously large jackpot there really isn't much buzz or interest in it anymore because it has dragged on for so many years without a major winner. |
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Congratulations for Stake.com announces their Global branded ambassador, Israel Adesanya. It could attract a UFC fan to see their idols become a partner with Stake, which can be a promotion to Stake.com. It can help promote crypto in the UFC fan, as there will be a banner that will show the Stake name or BTC logo in some place of the tournaments.
It will be better if Adesanya can learn bitcoin, so when his fan asks about bitcoin, he can answer with the right. That will make his fan curious and will search for more details about bitcoin.
Well maybe they can not tie it in with this partnership who knows. It might cost some major money to have the logo as the EPL has the very same logo on both the Soutons and Watfrd. And those are big name teams spending big time money. So who really knows how much stake has put aside for such trademark acquisitions. Will let the Stunna or MICRO respond to such inquires. We are hoping to do some bitcoin giveaways with Adesanya and will definitely utilize this opportunity to spread bitcoin promotion & love to his fanbase. We really think Adesanya has the ability to be a Triple champ 3 belt holder and are making a bet on him. For those not overly familiar this video is one of my favorites: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0efQioVlZE |
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4 @ 15mBTC
Correction, please make that: 4 @ 10mBTC |
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What a freaking win! So far this is the largest win that I've seen from a casino. He just won more than a million and a half dollars. Risky but had been paid off, congrats for such multiplier while having big bet amount, congrats for the win Bitcoinerz!
~snip~ This bitcoinerz had a different icon than a diamond for their vip level so I guess this is what everybody was saying earlier how they created a brand new vip rank for this player.
They were also saying the owner was going to mad when he gets up in the morning from sleeping the night where he is.
Recently he got another huge win. At current bitcion rate it's more than 5 million dollars! He have wagered more than 10k btc in daily race today. Still 3 hours left for this race and Bitcoinerz continuously making big bets. Maybe he will reach the newest VIP rank soon. I have no words left to say anything about this huge win. It's just amazing   That bet size is insane. Playing with almost $100k on 50x. I don't know for how much bets he had balance but gladly for him he got it after 18 rolls.  Crazy one indeed, probably one of the biggest wins in crypto gambling history if we take fiat price into account. Pulled 5 blue gems for a $5M+ win |
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The frozen withdrawal is related to multi-accounting. Unfortunately the email you sent was marked as spam and they found it yesterday in spam folder. I've been informed that support has been in touch with you. Can you please confirm this |
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Please PM me your username and I will look into what is causing this delay.
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I wouldn't be surprised that in the near future Primedice will be closed or will be merged on Stake site, just my two cents. Why would they even shut Primedice down? There is no point to do that. There is a dice game on Stake as well. Some people like Stake while some prefer to keep playing on Primedice, its just a small matter of preferences. Primedice has been operating from 2013 and everyone knows primedice, it will be there and it will always generate decent amount of traffic. Even if you google best bitcoin dice site right now, Primedice will always pop out as the top list. The name itself is already an exclusive brand in gambling scene Primedice is still super active in its own right. We had a PD player win a mind blowing amount the past week. |
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I think it would be nice if a player had a chance to win a maximum of one prize.
Although seemingly, this may seem like a good thing, but many have gotten over 50 tickets, they played more and took more risks in the wagering contest. It is normal for them to get some extra prizes. congrats @GDLE, If I were a lambo winner, I would drop a $10,000 giveaway..  He did actually rain even more than that  He used all his rain limits and then tipped me 0.2btc to rain on russian chat  The lambo + $50k giveaway was one for the books, Such an amazing event what a great way to end the year.. but that's not all.. All races are now boosted to $20k, rains are increased, multiple bonus drops a day and a whopping additional $100k+ in crypto prizes for Christmas |
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