they track data so that can manipulate the bets. why was api closed so that on real time you cannot export bets. see my explanation on hmac functions. how results are calculated on biased functions.
As intriguing this theory is, I have to ask you again, perhaps explain them in a way that non-techie guys could also understand while you're at it, how, in your theory, do they utilize motion sensor to cheat their members? It's obviously not plausible to do this. Because every stake original is provably fair the location of each mine for example is pre-determined. |
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The fact there is no screenshots in the medium topic
Only quotes of what supposed to be Email exchange.
And the Donate to me link at the end of the topic
Makes this accusation Odd.
Also i see issue with stake but moat if them sportbook
Or third party providers nerd to investigate
Its the first scam accusation that will have something to di with an Original game of Stake.
ODD
Have come back from months of inactivity just to say that this is total BS. Looks like a scheme to scam donations on his weird page he made. Just to clarify -We never held this user's money -It’s all fabricated, fake emails etc |
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We’re in the gambling business, but we’d never gamble with our user’s funds.
Deposit, play and withdraw instantly. That’s what we stand for.
The events that have taken place the past week in the crypto space should serve as yet another reminder to take control of your crypto.
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If you have been recently active you may have been confused about an official looking stake email in your inbox regarding VIP rewards.
The email was sent by a rogue individual who managed to get access to Stake's Sendgrid account. We are continuing to investigate with Sendgrid how 2FA was bypassed and access was obtained but we will share what we know in the meanwhile.
- There's a chance that a group of Stake users who were recently active may have their Email address available to this individual. Please note that there is no other associated information linked to these Email addresses. It would be simply a raw Email, unlinked to even a username or any form of identity. As a result we deem this to be a minimal risk threat.
- No user funds, passwords, KYC, or Stake accounts were effected. The phishing website was taken down within minutes and as a result no damage was incurred We are very lucky we have quick notifications around this & a great relationship with hosting companies.
We will have further information available soon. As always if you require specific help please contact your VIP host or our live support.
In the meanwhile we ask that you always make sure you are logging in on "stake.com" and set 2FA.
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I can double check if you send me your username.
I fail to see how you are accusing us of scamming for honoring what we believe is your self exclusion period. The team is trying to look out for your safety.
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Welcome to yet another seeding event. This time for our social US based version of Stake. Once again props to Rhavar for the method. Few hundred thousand blocks have passed since we last posted one of these  To prove our fairness we have generated a chain of 10,000,000 SHA256 hashes where each hash is the hash of the hexadecimal representation of the previous hash. The last hash in the chain is: Slide: 767ef376909b0319928ff50aede3565545e7698b003378e44d69f7d787a707f4 Crash: b285201a65c7c0c9e9316f91e37b134f3f8629fc0e8d24f0307893b53b286db3 The formula for generating the game result: const gameHash = hashChain.pop()
const hmac = createHmac('sha256', gameHash);
// blockHash is the hash of bitcoin block 584,500
hmac.update(blockHash);
const hex = hmac.digest('hex').substr(0, 8);
const int = parseInt(hex, 16);
// 0.01 will result in 1% house edge with a lowest crashpoint of 1
const crashpoint = Math.max(1, (2 ** 32 / (int + 1)) * (1 - 0.01)) blockHash used is Bitcoin block 747,460 which has not been mined at time of posting. Basically we are using the hash of a future bitcoin block as a client seed so players can be certain that we did not pick one in the house's favor. I'd appreciate it if someone could quote this post so this is all set in stone. |
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I feel that this requirement is justified as people now can’t game Stake, and they’ll have to verify themselves when Drake calls. Furthermore this is also a unique experience for the winners, because not only do they get the money but a call with Drake himself and I’m actually surprised here that he’ll call but then that’s Stake they love surprising their user’s.
I don't really see what is surprising here, you're a fan of this singer Juggy777 ? The stream was literally boring as hell, and I fell asleep during it like many other viewers from what I've heard. So if he doesn't even call the "blessed" winners there is absolutely no point in watching that. It seems the stuff lasted one hour and a half but I really thought it was several hours actually.  A record is on Youtube you can watch it if you don't believe me : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIOmKRRul7E He lost several (obviously fake) millions of USD during the session. $20 millions (lol) according to this article https://www.gamblingnews.com/news/drake-loses-20m-on-roulette-but-still-donates-1m-btc/He ended down $6m or so last stream. Do you consider this to be "obviously fake" just because the amounts are big? Drake deposited his own funds last stream and has been an avid stake player even before our partnership came to be. I'm really excited for the stream tonight 9PM EDT, definitely worth tuning into. Twitch.tv/stakedrake |
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I don't really understand the point of this thread or how this is productive.
It's fine that you don't like our websites, but you have no proof of any wrongdoing and have been posting this about every gambling site here for the past 6-7 years.
Welcome back to bitcointalk!
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When you sign up for Stake you agree to a series of terms and conditions, these conditions are broad but are put in place to prevent abuse. Every betting account is given their own limits, when your limits were reduced you started making additional accounts and providing false documents not belonging to you in an attempt to defraud us. You even went on Stake chat and made offers to buy accounts that had limits over $10k on specific sports. None of this was recreational action, you amassed at minimum 15 accounts and used these to profit significantly off your "value bets" which you also offered to sell to other chatters. Primarily having access to a faster feed on the french open and cashing out at points of value right before an odd swing was a great strategy for you . When placing that same bet across 15 account you were able to make these "value bets" very profitable as it was a positive expected value initiative for you, you even offered to sell these bets given how confident you were in them. We have a right to refuse action from players like you which we did, you were able to get your money out on your initial accounts. Then you continued to buy and make accounts and we continued to limit but you kept buying or farming more accounts. On just Palamar (OP's account) you earned profit of $53k using "value bets".  Stake chat Logs from Palamar translated from Russian 3:32 PM 5/22/2022 ru Ecть y кoгo aкки гдe пpиeм нa тeнниc 10к$? Translation: Does anyone have an account where the admission to tennis is $ 10k?
1:04 AM 5/22/2022 ru oт 10к$ Translation: from 10k$ 1:02 AM 5/22/2022 ru Ктo кpyпнo cтaвит ecть? Translation: Who bets big? 12:59 AM 5/22/2022 sports_en WHo need valuebets&
Stake takes advantage from being a crypto offshore casino, and not being as famous as largest sportsbooks but if it makes bad things with their customers I don't think australian authorities will appreciate that, neither american, canadian and english ones since it is doing business with sport organizations and personalities from those countries for advertising.
Yup, they are accountable to no one. This is why people prefer Vegas and regulated books. But not all countries got a Vegas or a legal book, so they are forced to bet on offshore books. Then this happens and you can do NOTHING (even if your account was verified by the book itself before you started betting lol, funny and scary at the same time) This user actually reported this matter to our regulators who will review the case, given the mountain of evidence against them I have no doubt we will win. Obviously edgycorner being in touch with this group there is absolutely no doubt in my mind that they are offering you some money to be their puppet here. I was alleged of the same thing by Twitchyseal on this thread, I have already disclosed all of my communication with OP(here and outside). Until now there was no strong evidence from your side. As I have already mentioned on the other thread. "I will renounce my support the moment you provide any evidence." https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5401642.msg60310671#msg60310671They are yet to be proven a "scammer". All I see is a profitable punter suspended by a book.
But once Stunna proves that they were indeed abusing the book with "evidence", I will renounce all of my support. This will be my last task on this forum. I can see that you have provided proof, so I will rescind it. My job is done here. Fair enough, no hard feelings. I should have made a better and more professional explanation initially. Sharing evidence is often tricky in situations like this because this individual will continue to find ways to get around our systems the more info they have. I like to think that we have built up a strong reputation over the last 10 years here, being the longest running and largest operators in crypto gambling but that does not allow us to say "just trust us" |
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When you sign up for Stake you agree to a series of terms and conditions, these conditions are broad but are put in place to prevent abuse. Every betting account is given their own limits, when your limits were reduced you started making additional accounts and providing false documents not belonging to you in an attempt to defraud us. You even went on Stake chat and made offers to buy accounts that had limits over $10k on specific sports. None of this was recreational action, you amassed at minimum 15 accounts and used these to profit significantly off your "value bets" which you also offered to sell to other chatters. Primarily having access to a faster feed on the french open and cashing out at points of value right before an odd swing was a great strategy for you . When placing that same bet across 15+ accounts you were able to make these "value bets" very profitable as it was a positive expected value initiative for you, you even offered to sell these bets given how confident you were in them. We have a right to refuse action from players like you which we did, you were able to get your money out on your initial accounts. Then you continued to buy and make accounts and we continued to limit but you kept buying or farming more accounts. On just Palamar (OP's account) you earned profit of $53k using "value bets". If we did not take such strong action you would be continuing to buy accounts with high limits to try and keep betting against us. Stake chat Logs from Palamar translated from Russian 3:32 PM 5/22/2022 ru Ecть y кoгo aкки гдe пpиeм нa тeнниc 10к$? Translation: Does anyone have an account where the admission to tennis is $ 10k?
1:04 AM 5/22/2022 ru oт 10к$ Translation: from 10k$ 1:02 AM 5/22/2022 ru Ктo кpyпнo cтaвит ecть? Translation: Who bets big? 12:59 AM 5/22/2022 sports_en WHo need valuebets&
Stake takes advantage from being a crypto offshore casino, and not being as famous as largest sportsbooks but if it makes bad things with their customers I don't think australian authorities will appreciate that, neither american, canadian and english ones since it is doing business with sport organizations and personalities from those countries for advertising.
Yup, they are accountable to no one. This is why people prefer Vegas and regulated books. But not all countries got a Vegas or a legal book, so they are forced to bet on offshore books. Then this happens and you can do NOTHING (even if your account was verified by the book itself before you started betting lol, funny and scary at the same time) This user actually reported this matter to our regulators who will review the case, given the mountain of evidence against them I have no doubt we will win. Obviously edgycorner being in touch with this group there is absolutely no doubt in my mind that they are offering you some money to be their puppet here. |
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We are not aware of any bug like this regarding autobet, if you can reproduce the issue I would be happy to refund you and send you a reward for your efforts.
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Once a month something like this is posted by a brand new account acting innocent and putting on a show to try and get some money. Not sure why they choose to waste everyone's time with some bs story about how they were innocently placing some bets and were randomly restricted. It never works, any integrity team investigation is done completely independently to what is posted here. Stake has millions of users and for someone to be suspended from the website in a situation like OP is describing is not arbitrary. We don't suspended users for just having multi-accounts we suspend them for using multiple accounts for the sake of abuse. This individual placing bets obtained their profit from betting on sports not casino on 15+ accounts. They made these accounts to circumvent limits and restrictions put on previous accounts and have used their entire extended family's ID along with other potentially bought or borrowed ID's in an attempt to get around these limits. We have a number of methods that gave us very high confidence to link these accounts far beyond the ID's used. I don't want to share all details of the investigation as they will try to find ways to circumvent in the future. They have made a substantial profit all in all because of their use of a bulk of accounts. Maybe because I feel sympathy for OP since she's a woman from Ukraine who can't speak English to be able to present their case?
 Better explanation of our actions can be viewed here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5400984.msg60314378#msg60314378 |
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Oh yes! Oh yes! I am so happy.  Been waiting for this for so long and now I could put all my bets in one game. This will stay, right? I hope it will. Damn, just when the NBA was about to end but if this will stay I will gladly use it even in different sports games. I just want to thank you Stake.com for this, I have waited so long but it's worth it. Super glad before I go to sleep and will surely have sweet dreams. Yes!! I'm super excited about this as well, it's here to stay and we'll be adding a ton more markets too |
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Anyone having any login issues on Stake this morning? I haven't been able to login in spite of multiple attempts. The issue I'm having seems to be in relation to the email confirmation to log in. After solving the captcha it takes me back to the login screen with my username and password, but no popup for the email code or email being sent. This results in the only option being to click on the login button again, which brings you back to solving the captcha, which then leads you back to the login screen. Is anyone else seeing an issue with the email code entrance popup not loading or no emails being sent? Wondering if it may be a browser issue, as that tends to be the problem when TOR has been recently updated.
Likely related to your browser, I don't believe anything has changed that would effect this. https://www.reddit.com/r/TOR/comments/ppidth/why_captchas_never_works_on_tor_using_tor_browser/ |
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This is very helpful! I just thought I'd add that all most of these providers offer two different levels of RTP which the casino operator can select from. There's lots of casinos that pick the lower RTP option to increase their margin.
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I have no idea what this is regarding and there is no username or evidence posted here... I hate to immediately jump to a conclusion but this sounds incredibly unlikely and fake.
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Finally got paid back via coupon. https://imgur.com/NvFz4doI am pretty sure this wouldn't have been possible without Stunna's involvement. Thanks Stunna! Sorry about the miscommunication on our part, some real unprecedented situations recently in sports Glad we were able to get it all sorted |
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