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Stake v2 is out! Click the blue beta banner at the top when you're on stake.com
Right now it's an optional beta. There is a lot of refinement being done at this stage, I will be posting a full changelog once we are out of beta!
Please let me know if you have any feedback
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I know this accusation has been made a few times and has been repelled as many times because the site owner has cleverly build him self a positive reputation on Bitcoin Talk.
However after playing on Primedice for a substantial while now I do accuse Primedice of cheating.
I do believe the cheating occurs on selected players and not generally on all players to make it look less obvious.
The owner, calling him self "advisor" goes "under cover" as "Partyboy04" and not with his actual account "EDWARD" on Primedice and spies on players tactics only to use that information against them in the Primedice dice engine which goes essentially against "provably fair" and can be seen as active cheating in game.
Usually the dice engine is then behaving apparently "as usual" for a while until the player makes a bet higher than X amount.
From that point on it is impossible for the player being cheated on to win any bet and even if it goes against all odds to still loose a bet.
This is even more interesting that this happens when the "advisor" was logged in as "Partyboy04" on Primedice.
Cheated me out of coins several times now within the last couple of years by, I suspect, very likely monitoring my game and manipulating the dice results directly live in game from a back-end login.
Also I do not believe that the provably fair test on dicesites is neutral since I have seen deviations with results using the calculation script on my Xampp local host.
At this point its open to speculation whether the dicesites server my exchange database information with casino servers or not.
I have a whole collection of screenshots to show for this by now as I started keeping track of occurrences, also in some cases by the means of recording sessions with OBS.
Unfortunately I do not have an upload or attach image option for this post to present some examples otherwise I would.
I am aware that my accusations will be put down as false and no such thing is happening however I would not have any reason to claim being cheated on on Primedice if it wouldn't have happened more than just once.
This accusation is laughable, provide evidence or keep it to yourself. We just cashed out a player 500BTC in one transaction last night, who has won over 600 coins this week. Primedice has lost money the past 3 months, this post is insulting to our integrity. I cannot even follow your argument, you claim we are a player named partyboy04 who controls your results? You take it a step further by claiming that dicesites.com has a fake verifier on it? You understand that you can manually verify the bet yourself without using a third party tool or PD. I sincerely apologize to anyone who wasted their time reading this. I'm also sorry that you lost money playing OP and had a negative experience but you can access your bet archive and verify yourself that all the bets you placed were indeed provably fair. |
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Stake v2 launches today! Within the next few hours we'll release it as an optional beta.
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We're launching an overhaul of stake next week, will include two new games. We've been gathering lots of user feedback and are confident this will be a big step forward. It looks and feels a lot better and has some interesting new features that have been demanded for so long.
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I've sent Stunna a PM, asking to check this thread. I forwarded this to Steve and the rest of the Stake team. Obviously there are some valid points highlighted here, there is no doubt that this is creating a huge amount of spam. Hopefully they can make some changes that the community finds agreeable. |
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In this discussion lets not forget the difference between a faucet website and gambling faucet, faucet websites purpose is to give people money and meanwhile make money from advertisement, that way they are making 3 satoshi for each 1 satoshi they give you, if you click on news even better. Gambling faucets are different and the purpose is to give you a taste of the game.
However, one thing I noticed on both stake and the partner primedice is that their promotions are usually different from each other, like faucet numbers are different, rewards are different basically they have like totally different marketing from each other.
I understand they are definitely two different websites but I was thinking since they owned by same people the marketing would be same as well but they are definitely not. It is a good thing, stake is literally making a name for itself and getting bigger without getting help from using the name primedice, they could have just said "we are the casino version of primedice so we are good" and get customers but they made stake.com huge all in itself.
Yeah, I'm glad you noticed that. The team has worked hard to keep the experiences and communities separate instead of just cannibalizing the PD audience. Our goal is really just providing two unique experiences and with upcoming updates we hope to make that even more clear. |
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Lol, this would have been sent instantly in a normal situation. You hit a cap for maximum # of withdrawals in one day and we manually pushed it as soon as it was brought to our attention. I just don't know how you could jump to this conclusion so quickly after making so many succesfull withdrawals over a period of years!  The least you can do is edit your title and lock this thread. |
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While this was almost immediately at capacity, if you leave your information Steve will consider the best people to add on in the future.
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Satoshidice was simply a website where you'd send bitcoins to a list of addresses and wait 10 minutes for your result like a lottery. Primedice was the first big website to do dicing as you see today. The 0-100 simple dice and the easy to use interface has been copied from primedice 1/2 and improved upon (just-dice with roll hi, roll lo). Even satoshidice later launched a dice game similar to PD. There is no way you can argue that satoshidice created "dicing", they were the first major bitcoin gambling site but they were a blockchain based game, very different from the off-chain casino games which are popular today. Other than provably fair which I don't think SD created, you'd be hard pressed to find a single feature any "dicing" website has lifted from satoshidice. Meanwhile there are 100s of dice websites across different currencies, video games etc which are heavily based on Primedice. We don't claim to be the creators of bitcoin gambling but we would consider ourselves a creator of "dicing" and we're the longest successfully running bitcoin gambling website that I know of. |
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A few players have profited roughly 5000 ETH between them on Primedice this week. One of which turning 20 ETH into roughly 3500, pretty crazy stuff! We were hesitant to add altcoins for years but it is cool to see some altcoin highroller activity even if it means the house losing  . |
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Update: Our front-end provider was social engineered. An administrator that works for this major company granted a random person's account access, something we did not even think was a possibility (google, facebook amongst others use our provider to some extent).
This individual delivered a rogue front-end of the website last night for a brief period of time. Luckily our team was instantly made aware of this and after just a few minutes we were able to take it down and secure the account, withdrawals were immediately set to manual.
If you were on at a specific time you might have seen a page asked you to deposit money to an address to get 3x their deposit of any amount and also included a very poorly made login modal. Most users saw past this login modal as a fraud but a few did login, we were able to restrict withdrawals before damage could be done and have reached out to those effected users with instructions to secure their account. We have access to all the code from that rogue deployment. 0.02BTC was sent to the address, it is unknown at this time whether or not this was just the offender's funds. We reviewed this code and it was not anything sophisticated, we will post it later.
We're investigating further and will give you all the details soon. We are using a more reliable company for FE deployment going forward. I must stress that our database/back-end were not effected and that funds are secure. We are fully operational, however some withdrawals will be manually processed while we complete our investigation over the course of the day. We feel extremely lucky that we have teams in multiple timezones and could react to this instantly before harm was done. Thank you for your understanding, and please accept my apologies if you had to wait hours to receive your withdrawal.
EDIT: All systems are go, withdrawals are auto
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I will make new post here when everything is checked and safe .
If you logged into phishing login page and have pending withdrawals on your account please message our support team and we will work on checking and clearing or refunding those withdrawals ASAP.
Thank you for understanding and your patience.
Update: Our front-end provider was social engineered. An administrator that works for this major company granted a random person's account access, something we did not even think was a possibility (google, facebook amongst others use our provider to some extent). This individual delivered a rogue front-end of the website last night for a brief period of time. Luckily our team was instantly made aware of this and after just a few minutes we were able to take it down and secure the account, withdrawals were immediately set to manual. If you were on at a specific time you might have seen a page asked you to deposit money to an address to get 3x their deposit of any amount and also included a very poorly made login modal. Most users saw past this login modal as a fraud but a few did login, we were able to restrict withdrawals before damage could be done and have reached out to those effected users with instructions to secure their frozen accounts. We have access to all the code from that rogue deployment. 0.02BTC was sent to the address, it is unknown at this time whether or not this was just the offender's own funds. We reviewed this code and it was not anything sophisticated, we will post it later. We're investigating further and will give you all the details soon. We are using a more reliable company for FE deployment going forward. I must stress that our database/back-end were not effected and that funds are secure. We are fully operational, however some withdrawals will be manually processed over the next 8 hrs or so. We feel extremely lucky that we have teams in multiple timezones and could react to this instantly before harm was done. Thank you for your understanding, and please accept my apologies if you had to wait hours to receive your withdrawal. Edit: ALL SYSTEMS ARE GO, Withdrawals auto. |
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Little over 8 days left and the holiday tournament prize pool is already at a whopping 15+ BTCTop 20 take home bitcoin rewards, some of the prizes are actually positive expected value right now!  Hope you're all enjoying some good food with friends & family. Merry Christmas all  |
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You should fire whoever you paid to write this, this is like asking a high school student to write an essay about a book they didn't read and made even worse by filling it with unrelated promotional material in each paragraph. Blockchain’s infrastructure is itself inherently tamper proof. The distributed ledger makes it an impossible task to manipulate anything in the system. So your winnings and rewards are easily and automatically calculated via smart contracts. FortuneJack will also have a number of cool leaderboards where bonus rewards are given out. With special promotions we’ll incentivize new ways of playing.
What does the second part of this half to do with the first part. Basically this is telling me "The blockchain is really cool and can't be manipulated, Fortunejack has giveaways and promotions." I could understand if you were like "Fortunejack is using the blockchain to do special promotions" 1/10It's laughable that people on signature campaigns that reward posts in the gambling section reply so generically to stuff like this. Full text: Gambling with Crypto is More Fun
The symbiosis between crypto and gambling can only get stronger--we live now in a world of mass adoption of blockchain. As the likes of J.P Morgan get into the space of zero-fee stock trading apps to compete with the likes of Robinhood, the Microsoft-backed Bakkt project will take digital assets and cryptocurrency holdings to the next level.
In 2018, it’s very clear gaming and gambling have very bright futures indeed. Blockchain technology is gradually creeping into every industry and, in the coming years, its presence will be felt like never before. However many analysts believe it could make its big breakthroughs in particular in the realm of gaming, in-game assets, and gambling. It’s only human nature that we spend time where there is an aspect of entertainment and rewards.
Blockchain is Ideal for Online Casinos
The use case for Blockchain is especially attractive for Casinos. It’s simple. Blockchain can provide customer experiences that are private, cheap, legal and accessible while enabling the likes of Bitcoin and Ethereum to have even more applications.
Blockchain can also provide more trust in Casinos and transparency for customers. A Casino that integrates crypto might is also seen as more progressive and adaptive to new technology, than one that does not. Blockchain can give consumers more insight into how a Casino operates and make it impossible for “the house always wins” to be true by any form of manipulation or setup. So blockchain integration in a Casino removes some of the pain points for consumers to fully enjoy activities at Casinos. Online Casinos that are blockchain based will have an advantage over those that are not.
FortuneJack is Rising to the Occasion
In our endeavor to provide you with educational material here at FortuneJack, we are launching FortuneJack Reads which will be a collection of articles published on our blog concerning recent big topics in the crypto world. Improved trust and reduced fraud means blockchain-based Casinos are more trustworthy.
While Bitcoin was not the first cryptocurrency in history, it was the first one to provide a decentralized structure. At FortuneJack we currently accept 8 kinds of cryptocurrencies:
Bitcoin
Litecoin
Dodgecoin
Ethereum
ZCash
Dash
BitcoinCash
Monero
Winning Bitcoin might turn out to be even more fulfilling than winning a fiat currency. This is also because the price of cryptocurrencies, after its latest drop in 2018, is likely to go up in the future. Blockchain is making it easier for consumers as they seek new, convenient and fun opportunities to play.
Blockchain is Disrupting How We Play
Blockchain’s infrastructure is itself inherently tamper proof. The distributed ledger makes it an impossible task to manipulate anything in the system. So your winnings and rewards are easily and automatically calculated via smart contracts. FortuneJack will also have a number of cool leaderboards where bonus rewards are given out. With special promotions we’ll incentivize new ways of playing.
Blockchain as a new foundational technology means the Casino industry can be reinvigorated with the crypto movement. As more Millennials and young people embrace crypto, it will just become part of the new norm of how payments and interactions take place online. The gambling industry, like the gaming industry, could be part of the bridge to how a new set of digital assets emerges that makes blockchain become the new normal.
For the gambling enthusiast, the player, the anonymity of the exchange that blockchain affords is unusually appealing. Also the added speed of processing, security of the data and transparency of the system are huge selling points. Blockchain is without a doubt, disrupting gambling. Playing with cryptocurrency is even more enjoyable for many people. Just as ICOs, crypto funds and new altcoins come into being faster and faster; gambling needs to feel more trustworthy again and the mass crypto adoption we are witnessing all over the world, means blockchain is here to stay. |
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I think a lot of people get involved in this sort of business as it's a fairly simple side project that has the potential to make lots of money. This to me just seems like a case of getting in over their head and making claims they didn't expect to have to back up.
I mean realistically there was no money to scam since there were no notable deposits. If you want some advice 'bitcoinfuck' you need to learn how to communicate professionally and transparently and prove to the users of this forum that you are worthy of their trust. Not just say that someone's arguments are wrong because they are poor and jealous. There are some fair points that warrant a more thoughtful reply.
stunna been using your site ever since they came out, nice work, i didn't had a problem with this dude, he said i listen, the first few days was beta, so lot of changes went in as described by users, for all these days he was here and i was trying to do what people are saying. i deleted his post when he left me negative rep without even playing. UPDATE : 18 DEC 2018 All nonsense posts are being deleted, achieve till now : http://archive.fo/nJR0S [ for reference of all talks till now ] even after deleting post, i achieved them, just in case someone wants to have a reference in future, i think i was transparent with communication. i just asked for time. If you want my honest advice, don't keep user funds in an exchange. I feel like this is pretty elementary but the majority of exchanges have been hacked and lost user funds. And provide proof of a 10BTC bankroll and all should be fine. |
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I think a lot of people get involved in this sort of business as it's a fairly simple side project that has the potential to make lots of money. This to me just seems like a case of getting in over their head and making claims they didn't expect to have to back up. I PREFER KEEPING FUNDS IN EXCHANGE TO BE HACK PROOF
OP did well to identify their lies and shortcomings but honestly a website this incompetent would never attract any real business. The owner will probably just change the design and re-launch, but something like this will never succeed especially with the lack of professionalism seen in their posts. regarding my deleted post, i didn't do it mods did it, its stupid for you to judge without playing, and you know lot of members replied on the forum that they got paid, members lot higher rank then yours.
ANYWAYS GUY LIKE YOU WHO COULDN'T AFFORD TO LAUNCH PROJECT DEGRADE OTHERS, JUST TAKE YOUR MEDICINE ON TIME AND EVERYTHING IS ALRIGHT !
I ASKED FOR PROOF OF PAYMENT ? YOU DON'T HAVE HAVE IT
THEN I DON'T HAVE TIME FOR YOUR CHIT CHAT.
I mean realistically there was no money to scam since there were no notable deposits. If you want some advice 'bitcoinfuck' you need to learn how to communicate professionally and transparently and prove to the users of this forum that you are worthy of their trust. Not just say that someone's arguments are wrong because they are poor and jealous. There are some fair points that warrant a more thoughtful reply. |
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Hi, what are some good, trusted casinos with instant BTC deposits? (preferably decentralized)
instant deposits were turned off by many bitcoin casinos Bitsler, Primedice,Stake used to have instant deposits it turned out that the risks of doublespends and different shenenigans by unscrupulous inidividuals are too high and this brief wait for one confirmation (and most of the sites require just one confirmation to credit ) is not worth having to deal with all the troubles caused by potential scammers I ,personally, am fine with waiting a couple of minutes more We still do 0 confirmation deposits on Primedice & stake.com . It just requires a high level of "confidence" that the transaction is not a double-spend, so if you're using a normal wallet and attach a proper fee in most cases it should be instant. |
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