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401  Local / Économie et spéculation / Re: La dette mondiale atteint 184000 milliards de dollars on: April 23, 2019, 08:30:21 AM
Et toi tu es depuis 2013 dans l'univers des crypto Huh C'est limite flippent et ça promet surtout de beaux jours de spéculation...

Mais...

Tu te rends compte que tu balances des trucs sans raisonnement ou preuve et quand des gens qui sont dans le milieu depuis des années te disent que ça marche pas comme ça, tu te braques et tu leur parle avec mépris?

C'est quoi ton intention? Juste troller?

Ce que je dis là
C'est totalement faux, inutile de jouer sur les mots... Si tu veux utiliser la BlockChain de Bitcoin il te faudra une consommation énergétique conséquente pour une question de sécurité.

Ben...
Non...

Enfin évidemment tu te gardes bien de chiffrer le moindre de tes propos. On peut faire dire tout et n'importe quoi à "conséquente" et "sécurité".

Mais non pas besoin d'une consommation énergétique "conséquente" pour avoir une blockchain sécurisée. Au contraire la consommation énergétique liée à la blockchain est conçue pour diminuer avec le temps puisque les halving rendent le minage moins intéressant.

Donc plus le temps passe moins il est rentable de miner à prix constant.
Est vrai, et le raisonnement est simple, qu'est-ce que tu n'as pas compris?
402  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Capitalism vs. Socialism - Make your argument here. on: April 23, 2019, 08:26:26 AM
What is government composed of Captain Postmodern?

200 individuals max.

Socialism = give power to ALL individuals. Not just 200 selected gods.
403  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Notre Dame destroyed by fire on: April 23, 2019, 08:10:54 AM

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No one said the loss of Notre Dame would be ok.  Its a cultural loss.  The connection is that it shows where your values and perspective are.  As a country, you are responsible for damage to so many people's Notre Dame's and hardly bat an eye.
Because they aren't ours... You do understand that what is not yours is less important to you that what is yours no? If you want an example, you'll be pretty sad if terrorists killed your wife/husband even though as a country you have killed millions of loved ones accross the world.

You have to realize that the millions of people dying around the world are all fathers sons mothers, daughters and wives.  
And? How does this change anything? Again, humans bread like bacteria, human life is probably the cheapest ressource we have. Human life is worth nothing.
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Just to be clear, France is full of sensible people.  So is the west.  A lot of times it goes unnoticed as a silent majority in a society drowned out by peer pressure and reactionary social media posts.  Deep down, i don't believe most westerners are so archaic in their morality.  
Of course they are!!! People buy blood diamons, cheap electronics shit that are made by children, clothing made in horrible conditions... They do that everyday! They don't care! People ARE horrible why are you trying to give them excuses!!!
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Yellow vests have called for a day of violence in response to this magical production of money nobody had when it came to meeting basic needs of the country.  

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"You're there, looking at all these millions accumulating, after spending five months in the streets fighting social and fiscal injustice. It's breaking my heart," Ingrid Levavasseur, a founding leader of the movement, told the Associated Press ahead of another round of planned protests across France this weekend.

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"What happened at Notre-Dame is obviously a deplorable tragedy. But nobody died," Levavasseur said. "I've heard someone speaking of national mourning. Are they out of their minds?"
On Macron
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"It took him less than 24 hours to speak about the fire, while he made us wait for three weeks before addressing our issues," she said.

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"The Yellow Vests will show their anger against the billion found in four days for stones, and nothing for the needy," wrote Pierre Derrien on the Facebook page of a Yellow Vests group based in the southern city of Montpellier.

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"If they can give dozens of millions to rebuild Notre-Dame, they should stop telling us there is no money to respond to the social emergency," said CGT trade union leader Philippe Martinez.

Unfortunately, the corporate media will not report any of this sentiment, nor will they report the police use of teargas and beating of protesters.  The images are a threat to capitalism.  

https://www.france24.com/en/20190420-france-yellow-vests-protests-violence-notre-dame-fire-anger-riot-billion-restoration
Solidarity with people not buildings.
And so? It doesn't change anything.
Notre-Dame is a tragedy. Stop trying to say it isn't. The fact that our society is even a bigger tragedy doesn't change that.
404  Other / Politics & Society / Re: REEEEE: PussyGate, a Collection of Trump Investigations on: April 23, 2019, 08:05:55 AM
This demonstrates clearly Flying Hellfish either judges people or judges them based on his opinions of their opinions, but most certainly does not judge people based on the merit of their words.

No, this demonstrates that FH doesn't like you and Spendulus. It can be because of your opinion. But it can be because you're both stupid assholes who love to say shit without proving anything, and once you've soaked the room with your own shit you like to yell "PROVE YOUR POINT" while dancing in your own shit xD
405  Local / Économie et spéculation / Re: Comment se préparer à la liquidation? on: April 23, 2019, 08:03:15 AM
dsl du HS mais je ne peux pas m'en empêcher
Je te propose un RIC pour savoir si tu a la droit de frauder, qu’en penses tu ?

Je comprend mieux ton projet de société que tu as essayé de vendre sur un autre topic : partage sauf pour toi Grin
HS débile effectivement. Mais symptomatique.
Tu vis dans une société A tu t'adaptes aux codes de la société A. Même si tu souhaiterais vivre dans une société B.
Il y a cette espèce de prérequis vertueux complètement débile qui dit que pour proposer une société B il faut vivre selon ces préceptes. Même quand on est dans une société A.

Mais selon ta remarque débile, Rocou devrait abattre à vue les contrôleurs fiscaux et Oscar devrait tirer sur les policiers. Ils ne le font pas non pas parce qu'ils n'ont pas de "vraies convictions" mais parce qu'ils vivent dans une société différente de leurs convictions.

Maintenant si on pouvait éviter les HS... A la limite ouvrez un autre topic où reprenez moi sur le topic en question. Là c'est vraiment idiot.
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Hors HS, j'y connais rien mais tu px déclarer et faire de la défiscalisation/optimisation
Rester dans la légalité permet de rester serrein et pas stresser jusqu'a la fin de ta vie...ou être obligé de quitter le pays Roll Eyes
Ce que tu ne comprends pas c'est que "la légalité" permet une fraude de dizaines de millards d'euros par an. Défiscaliser ce n'est pas forcément illégal.
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si tu as des amis ou de la famille parlent leurs de tes options...c'est facile a dire mais je préfére payer 35% d'impots sur 1 million (et toucher 600 700 K euros) et pouvoir en profiter sans me cacher
Sauf que de ce que je sais ça sera plus 60/65%
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De toute facon avec le KYC généralisé tu te feras rattraper un jour ou l'autre (regarde les panama papers)
Mais le but c'est justement de demander une stratégie de sortie légale.

Encore une fois, le CAC40 paie 4% d'impôts, tu crois que c'est fait illégalement? Non bien sûr. C'est parfaitement légal. C'est justement pour faire ça légalement que je demande. Si c'est pour échanger contre du cash et tout planquer en flippant toute ma vie de me faire rattraper... Intérêt 0.
406  Local / Économie et spéculation / Re: [BTC] Le bitcoin devrait remonter.... ou peut être redescendre on: April 23, 2019, 07:53:35 AM
Si je résume ton message en gros c'est : Pourquoi tu veux essayer de faire 1 000€ de bénéfice alors que tu peux en faire 500€ sûr et certain ?

Bah je crois que la réponse est dans la question... C'est pareil pour toi enfaîte, pourquoi tu vises les 1M$ de bénéfice, alors que si tu arrives à 500K$ c'est déjà pas mal finalement ?

Non. Mon message c'est "pourquoi attendre un scénario idéal où tu fais 130% de benef au lieu de prendre le scénario quasi certain où tu fais 100% de benef".

C'est idiot il me semble.

Et toi mOgliE, tu nous dis ce que tu comptes faire de tes BTC ?

Ben c'est facile. J'accumule tant qu'on est en dessous des 8k. De toute façon ça ne va faire que monter jusqu'au halving alors...

"buy the dip" avec les btc c'est débile. Le prix peut prendre 25% en 2 heures, qui peut dire où est le dip?
407  Other / Politics & Society / Re: REEEEE: PussyGate, a Collection of Trump Investigations on: April 19, 2019, 04:01:31 PM

Just saying that when the "objectionable post" is vanished, that conversation cannot occur. You don't have the opportunity to explain to everyone how stupid he is/

True but as that someone doesn't know how to read his own language it might be even better Smiley

Except it would be less funny of course.
408  Local / Économie et spéculation / Re: [BTC] Le bitcoin devrait remonter.... ou peut être redescendre on: April 19, 2019, 03:59:55 PM
Tu vas pas faire ça en margin je suppose, donc tu vas faire combien +50% peut être +80% avec un bon coup de bol...
Pour combien de mois en tout? Sans compter que même malgré des conditions que tu juges optimum le risque existe toujours, de par l'incertitude même de la volatilité de ce marché

Non je vise carrément plus que 80%, avec le bullrun de 2017 (et sa médiatisation), plus la conjoncture économique actuel et le Halving qui approche, il me semble que tout est réuni pour faire rêver les gens au sujet des crypto et les ruiner lors d'un prochain bullrun (malheureusement).

Ok.

Ca n'a aucun sens pour moi. (je précise pour moi, j'ai pas dit "c'est débile" pas la peine de se sentir attaqué Smiley )

On est à 5200$. Tu dis attendre un pullback à 4200$ puis espérer faire plus de 80% avec le bullrun suivant.

Bon. Alors ça veut dire que tu espères que le prix atteignent en gros 10 000$ sinon tu ne feras pas "carrément plus que 80%".

deux solutions:
-Tu entres maintenant à 5200$ et tu es sûr de faire +100% dans ton scénario peu importe l'entrée
-Tu attends un hypothètique double pullback à 4200$ pour du coup faire +130% à peu près

C'est vraiment intéressant de complexifier ton entrée dans le marché à ce point et de prendre un tel risque (parce que ça peut aussi ne jamais faire ce pullback, il n'y a rien de logique dans un pullback à ce stade hein, ça serait juste une variation aléatoire du marché c'est tout) pour 30% de plus?

Aucun sens pour moi.
Soit tu crois que le BTC en a encore pour 3 ans de stagnation et je comprends que tu n'entres pas maintenant. Soit tu crois au bullrun pré-halving et faut rentrer dès que possible pas faire des hypothètiques scénarios parfaits qui n'arriverons jamais.
409  Local / Économie et spéculation / Re: La dette mondiale atteint 184000 milliards de dollars on: April 19, 2019, 02:10:56 PM
C'est totalement faux, inutile de jouer sur les mots... Si tu veux utiliser la BlockChain de Bitcoin il te faudra une consommation énergétique conséquente pour une question de sécurité.

Ben...
Non...

Enfin évidemment tu te gardes bien de chiffrer le moindre de tes propos. On peut faire dire tout et n'importe quoi à "conséquente" et "sécurité".

Mais non pas besoin d'une consommation énergétique "conséquente" pour avoir une blockchain sécurisée. Au contraire la consommation énergétique liée à la blockchain est conçue pour diminuer avec le temps puisque les halving rendent le minage moins intéressant.

Donc plus le temps passe moins il est rentable de miner à prix constant.
410  Other / Politics & Society / Re: REEEEE: PussyGate, a Collection of Trump Investigations on: April 19, 2019, 12:15:28 PM
The only people who are unwilling to have an open debate are those selling lies.

Nope.

There are also the people tired of your double standards, your stupidity and your bad faith Smiley

No one forces you to interact with me fat man. You seek it out, you challenge me in a debate, you fail miserably, then you cry that I am being stupid and have double standards, and repeat. If you don't like criticism don't post to a public forum designed to host open discussion.

That's exactly what FH is doing and what you're crying about beautiful and muscular thin man ^^

He's posting in a self mod thread so he can get rid of you.



But you are only capable of having this conversation/argument/rant because you (and Flying Hellfish) are responding to other posts in the OPEN FORUM THREAD. The thread in which posts vanish is dead.

The joke is on you.

Yeah because this conversation is sooooooooo interesting that it would be a shame to censor that xD

Anyone not reading our endless ping-pong chat with TECSHARE is clearly missing out something important.  Grin

I'm answering TECSHARE. It's not something I deem worthy of being read by anyone more than him.
411  Other / Politics & Society / Re: REEEEE: PussyGate, a Collection of Trump Investigations on: April 19, 2019, 11:58:58 AM
The only people who are unwilling to have an open debate are those selling lies.

Nope.

There are also the people tired of your double standards, your stupidity and your bad faith Smiley

No one forces you to interact with me fat man. You seek it out, you challenge me in a debate, you fail miserably, then you cry that I am being stupid and have double standards, and repeat. If you don't like criticism don't post to a public forum designed to host open discussion.

That's exactly what FH is doing and what you're crying about beautiful and muscular thin man ^^

He's posting in a self mod thread so he can get rid of you.

412  Local / Économie et spéculation / Re: [BTC] Le bitcoin devrait remonter.... ou peut être redescendre on: April 19, 2019, 11:56:36 AM
En tout cas si vraiment nous assistons à un changement de tendance bravo à ceux qui ont réussi à accumuler sur les 3/4K, perso' je ne l'ai vraiment pas vu venir Angry

Personne ne l'a "vu venir"
On savait juste que ça arriverait un jour. A priori avant le halving. Point.

C'est pour ça qu'on dit rien d'autre que d'affligeantes banalités et généralisation, c'est parce que c'est tout ce qu'il y a a observer.

Et d'ailleurs ça peut tout à fait redescendre jusqu'à 2k$. On s'en fout. L'important c'est las tendance globale.
413  Other / Politics & Society / Re: REEEEE: PussyGate, a Collection of Trump Investigations on: April 19, 2019, 08:23:46 AM
The only people who are unwilling to have an open debate are those selling lies.

Nope.

There are also the people tired of your double standards, your stupidity and your bad faith Smiley
414  Other / Politics & Society / Are Christians attacked in France? on: April 19, 2019, 08:22:19 AM
There is a number spreading that my dear friend TECSHARE gave out:
875 Churches Vandalized In France Triggers Notre Dame CONSPIRACIES

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35_UTCxKt2c

IT'S TIME FOR THEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE FACTS CHEEEEEEEEEECK!!!

So real number is a bit less but stil impressive: around 700 churches were vandalized. 875 is an exageration of the newspaper Le Figaro (Right and Christian newspaper) including acts that happened INSIDE churches but didn't aim the building (stealing something from a believer inside a church for example).

Still, 700 is a big number and 875 isn't an incredible exageration.

BUT

Let's put that in perspective.

There are 42 258 churches and Christian buildings in France. 700 vandalism means 1.65% of them have been attacked. Which is already a bit less impressive.

Only 16 mosques vandalized in 2018, far less right? Well as there are only 2368 Islamist buildings it's still 0.67% of them attacked.

For the jews we get only 500 synagogues and most (if not all) of them are protected by soldiers because... Well I can't say what I think here because that would be a crime and France isn't really a free country... But still, wtf? Why should French soldiers protect religious buildings??


So? Well it seems Christians are indeed aimed at more than other religious groups. Important things to take into account though:

-Christian buildings are a historical symbol and are often aimed at by what we could call "laicist warriors" who want to harden separation of church and state. It's not just hate crimes, it's also because they're symbolic of an institutional force.

-Christian religion isn't 100% separated from government in France despite what is said. Some parts of France don't have an official separation of church and state and the state actually pays for the church (Alsace and Moselle, complicated history with the Germans you know). And French president is still "premier et unique chanoine honoraire de l'archibasilique de Saint-Jean-du-Latran, proto-chanoine de l'ancienne cathédrale d'Embrun, proto-chanoine de Notre-Dame de Cléry, chanoine honoraire de la cathédrale Saint-Jean-Baptiste de Saint-Jean-de-Maurienne, premier chanoine honoraire héréditaire de l'église de Saint-Hilaire de Poitiers, premier chanoine honoraire héréditaire de l'église de Saint-Martin de Tours, premier chanoine honoraire héréditaire de la cathédrale Saint-Maurice d'Angers, premier chanoine honoraire héréditaire de la cathédrale Saint-Étienne de Châlons et premier chanoine honoraire héréditaire de la cathédrale Saint-Julien du Mans". Those are honor title but still, can't say it's very laïc...

-Christian attacks are stable through the years. There isn't an "increase in Christian hate", number of anti Christian acts are more or less the same.

-There is a historical hate of the church in France and... Believe me it's not going to disappear.


That's all. From a personnal point of view, I don't see the point of churches vandalism but I also don't like that government is flirting with the church so much and that most churches are a state burden...


Sources (sorry for the French but those are French government numbers):
https://www.interieur.gouv.fr/Actualites/Communiques/Lutte-contre-la-haine-la-discrimination-le-racisme-et-l-antisemitisme
http://patrimoine.blog.pelerin.info/2016/09/13/conference-eveques-de-france-etat-des-lieux-eglises/
https://www.islamophobie.net/tag/vandalisme/
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_de_mosqu%C3%A9es_de_France
415  Other / Politics & Society / Re: REEEEE: PussyGate, a Collection of Trump Investigations on: April 18, 2019, 12:34:09 PM
So, posts are being vanished again. Well, that should be expected. The tool of censorship is a primary tool of the totalitarian Leftists.

A prized tool, indeed, often the only tool.

Can't be that you love ad hominem out of topic no? Must be the huge left censorship. Of course.

Did you ever noticed that everyone gets censored (I got a fair amount of censored posts myself) but only the righty crying bitches are there "meeeeeeh I'm being censooooooooooooooored"?
416  Local / Économie et spéculation / Re: La dette mondiale atteint 184000 milliards de dollars on: April 18, 2019, 09:35:15 AM
Je suis all in depuis 2015 et plus qu all in depuis 2019  Wink

Déjà si t'as tenu depuis 2015 c'est que tu n'es a priori pas COMPLETEMENT all in. Smiley

Et ensuite si tu es all in sur le BTC, quel que soit le résultat, c'est que tu es con Smiley
Après j'espère pour toi qu'être con te rendra riche, mais ça ne change rien à ta connerie!

(ou très pauvre et du coup tu n'as pas vraiment le choix, c'est un investissement ou rien, pas possible de diversifier)

417  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 5-year-old boy thrown from Mall of America balcony by Sub-Human Somali Beast... on: April 18, 2019, 07:24:24 AM
Source needed. Willing to bet the now defamed SPLC is involved. That or ADL. Both horse shit sources.

Ah. The good old "your sources are horse shit".

You're aware it's not how it works?

You're supposed to prove those sources aren't acceptable by analysing their methodology. Not just saying "no it's no good i don't like that" ^^
418  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Up Like Trump on: April 18, 2019, 07:20:15 AM

Conservatives of all stripes overwhelmed the Twitter responses to Cher’s original tweet, but liberals peeked in here and there to criticize the singer for everything from her own net worth to her supposed lack of understanding on the issue.

The Left is destroying their moderate base, even destroying people who hates Trump like Cher... Not a smart move (for them).



Hmm... Seems logical to me calling her an hypocrite and a coward.
Wasn't she calling for welcoming immegration something like 2 years ago? Claiming we should all "open our arms" and shit like this?

Changing her word like this just when she's asked to participate via her city is proof she's a stupid lying cunt. Seems logical to call her this.

But some do realize the error of their ways.

If that was the case she would talk about the problematic consequences of immigration and explain how controlled immigration is a problem and why what she thought was right, she considers to be wrong now.

Simply going from "yes" to "no" is being a hypocrite and a NIMBY bitch. Which deserves no respect from either party.
419  Local / Économie et spéculation / Re: La dette mondiale atteint 184000 milliards de dollars on: April 18, 2019, 07:18:10 AM
Au moins je n'aurai pas sur la conscience des personnes ruinées et anéanties, car ils ont all in sur Bitcoin à cause de propos illusoire à son sujet que certaines personnes relaient.

Quiconque all in sur BTC est un débile qui ne mérite pas plus de compassion que l'autre débile qui all in son salaire au casino. Et encore, le débile du casino il peut avoir des excuses quand on connaît le caractère addictif du jeu et les pratiques de certains casinos.

PERSONNE ne dit qu'il faut all in sur BTC.

TOUT LE MONDE appuie son caractère risqué et volatile.

De toute façon il suffit de regarder n'importe quel graphe pour se rendre compte que all in sur un truc qui peut prendre ou perdre 40% de sa valeur en 24h c'est juste débile.
420  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Notre Dame destroyed by fire on: April 18, 2019, 07:14:10 AM
The building was not lost, it was damaged.  It is only temporarily lost and was always going to be repaired.  It sucks but worse things happen everyday.
parts are gone forever though. Some artworks will never be done again.
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I'm criticizing the lack of perspective and your exaggeration "loss of nd" is more evidence of that lack of perspective. I'm criticizing the worshipping of material by Christians.  I understand that the loss of a symbol is considered a national tragedy and that is my point.  Valuing a material symbol over the lives of hundreds of people is a disgusting choice and not a choice that even has to be made.  You could value both but choose to value the building over the people and that is where I lay criticism.  
Building is often more important than human life. It seems you don't understand that human life isn't precious at all. It's very cheap. Humans reproduce pretty fast and 99% of them are patheticly identical. There is nothing precious in human life.

Sometimes though, humans manage to do extraordinary things, and those things they build are precious. I would be more sad of the loss of Notre Dame or Versailles or the Schönbrunn castle than of the death of 2 millions people. Because 2 millions human life isn't worth much. 131 millions human are born every year, how can one life be precious? Humans are one of the most disposable resource we have, if not THE most disposable ressource.
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No one said the loss of Notre Dame would be ok.  Its a cultural loss.  The connection is that it shows where your values and perspective are.  As a country, you are responsible for damage to so many people's Notre Dame's and hardly bat an eye.
Because they aren't ours... You do understand that what is not yours is less important to you that what is yours no? If you want an example, you'll be pretty sad if terrorists killed your wife/husband even though as a country you have killed millions of loved ones accross the world.
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You are crying about a cracked phone in a metaphorical room with people who have lost loved ones, and everything dear to them.  Thats where its tone-deaf.  So many people have nothing and people who took everything are devastated about damage to one building.
No, I'm crying about a cracked phone in a metaphorical room with ONLY people with badass phones, who are wealthy as fuck and lack nothing. The ones poor, dying and having lost everything are in the streets, not with us.
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I'm complaining because things like "UN issues appeal for 4.4 billion in emergency funds to deal with famine" happen and are hardly a story but when the wealthiest institution in the history of the world has one building catch fire, support and donations pour in from around the world.  This event is proof that society can pool their global attention onto an issue and collect resources to solve it within hours.  We could do both without communism.
No we couldn't. Our whole system is based on the explotation of others. For 600 millions of people having our occidental lifestyle, we need nearly 7 billions people working more or less for us. We're blue blood in their castle while peasants die of famine in the near village. We can't just "share" and "pool our ressources". That would be the end of our society as it BASED on human explotation and violence.
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Imagine a world where life on Earth is valued as a symbol for life on Earth.
https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/notre-dame-case-misplaced-empathy-190416175229594.html
Your article is dumb as hell.
Everyone is pooling on this not because it is an autority symbol, but because it's easy and non controversial. Everyone can say "oh we're so sorry, we're here to help" knowing that in worse case scenario they'll have to send 5 millions for this which is nothing. While if anyone would say that for Africa famines for example, it would be completely hypocritical as we NEED those famines. They're what allow us to control this continent and its ressources.

We will NEVER help Africa simply because the suffering of Africa is OUR happiness.

Is it too hard to understand?
No need for this virtue signaling. Your part of a horrible, inhumane system dear.
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