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401  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune on: July 14, 2018, 09:25:50 PM
I'm thinking its definitely not him.
Looking at his older posts, Satoshi was never that wordy, unless he was trying to technically explain something. He didn't have a penchant for drama, and obviously wanted to maintain his anonymity. He also doesn't need any money, or to say anything, because his work speaks for itself.
Indeed. I always found Satoshi to be very direct and to the point, almost with an air of arrogance in this regard sometimes we might assume?
For example, I've heard people say that Satoshi's quote; "If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry." - 2010-07-29 - sounds like CWS i.e. @ProfFaustus on twitter. However, the ego presented by this fellow is enough to put me off considering even using BCH let alone anyone new to Bitcoin, in my honest and humble opinion.
If CWS was a protagonist behind bitcoin (with Dave Kleiman / others) then I think we can assume for certain that Kleiman or someone else did most of the communicating here on bitcointalk? If Kleiman knew he was potentially unwell and/or dying, then we might certainly understand his perspective in regards to making such a comment, if he did.
CWS, according to his twitter feed is working on more papers ... to be published ...
Who is Satoshi Nakamoto ? Suspects, frauds and conspiracies on bitcointalk
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4359615.0
The paradox of Bitcoin Cash
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4663094.0
...
Anyhow, I think us humans are very well conditioned to make connections and to see patterns where there are probably none, hopefully.  Smiley

Sometimes my posts simply try to highlight the ridiculous nature of these occurrences.


see pattern, see connections

Who would Roger Ver want to run his bitcointalk thread for bitcoin cash
Who would roger help in the MTGox Hack
Who would roger help in the big block debate
Who would roger help at Cryptsy, Lucky7coin
Who did Roger know at butterfly Labs Asic miners
Who did Roger know in the Silk Road operations under FBI investiagtion,
Why is Roger at the center of it all
Why does Roger's friend Gavin Andresseenn give him Bcash code

Gotta hide the real blockchain hey Roger


Yeah it hurts, where are our COINS!


been hunting this for 5 years and Roger is gonna help find them

My Story of Being Tortured in Prison

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJ07sM5w_Dk


Gotta new one for

My Story of Being Tortured by the Blockchain

All the evidence is right there
402  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: July 14, 2018, 09:19:58 PM
bch is better than btc and truely the only right chain
Jr member with 52 activity gets his first merit point for saying bch is better than btc.....shocking
lol, pump me up to senior member please, bch is wayyyy better than bitcoin, they might co-exist together as each is a unique identity, one is more like peer to peer, the other is like store of value

Who would Roger Ver want to run his bitcointalk thread for bitcoin cash
Who would roger help in the MTGox Hack
Who would roger help in the big block debate
Who would roger help at Cryptsy, Lucky7coin
Who did Roger know at butterfly Labs Asic miners
Who did Roger know in the Silk Road operations under FBI investiagtion,
Why is Roger at the center of it all

Gotta hide the real blockchain hey Roger
Bitcoin thanks

All this aside, let’s put some reality into this debate.
I live in Venezuela where central banks have essentially failed. Despite this failure, merchants still have yet to adopt Bitcoin as payment due to fees, some use Bitcoin Cash and this is growing. But for the most part I have to use BTC regardless because localbitcoins is BTC.
If you follow @Dolartoday on twitter you’ll see 1 USD was trading at ~100,000 Bolivars in January to ~3,500,000 Bolivars today. For this reason I have to sell BTC at least 3 days a week. Those fees actually add up to more than my partners medical doctor salary per month.
When I see such irrelevant Roger Ver accusations and much worse idiots like Tone ‘No-brain’ Vays and Jimmy ‘always-wrong’ Song in their stupid cowboy hats trying to hide the fact the fact that they are balding out of Core BTC stress saying things like: ‘bcash is irrelevant,’ and ‘Roger Ver Scam’ LOL Faketoshi and centralization, BitPico H4x0r, only store of value!
You look like fucking idiots denying real world solutions subject to a global population. Look at our population growth and tell me the blocksize increase doesn’t correlate such rapidity. Putforth a half decent argument for once over there on the Core side with more than just baseless accusations and Roger Ver conspiracies.

What has my points got to do with you using Bcash, go ahead not stopping Bcash at all, Bcash away, Just sayin Bcash is not Bitcoin and a reminder leave the Blockchain alone.

.."Put forth a half decent argument for once over there on the Bcash side with more than just baseless accusations and Roger Ver conspiracies."...

I agree

Have you got anything?

Did you read past my argument on fees being higher then a doctors salary in Venezuela?
I see you managed to say ‘Bcash’ 5 times in 2 sentences. Further proving my point  Roll Eyes

Yes and what point.  



this point might affect your transactions, I hope not, this guy Roger has been screwing with peoples investments for a long time



Nick Szabo once said that "Bitcoin Cash is centralized sockpupptery". Bitpico is now proving it true.

https://twitter.com/bitPico/status/1017514874291843072

Quote
We now understand the centralized nature of #bcash $bch. It is just a UAHF (user activated hard fork) Sybil setup to force the hands of all nodes and miners in the ecosystem. Without this setup @JihanWu & @rogerkver are powerless to control their network. #bitcoin #nodes #matter

Quote
Forcing the decentralized portion of the network to upgrade to a hard fork codebase via a centralized Sybil attack is nonsensical? You do realize a #bcash $bch hard fork is scheduled and they are using these nodes to force the hands of the entire network. #blockchain #ignorance

Roger Ver is always convincing everyone in the community about the "non-mining nodes do not matter" narrative for good reason. Always be cynical if you see someone else saying it in the forum.

Some newbies might not know who is Nick Szabo. Read this, https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/genesis-files-bit-gold-szabo-was-inches-away-inventing-bitcoin/


Remember i am not her to prove anything, just provide you with information that is already known.

Bcash Highly centralized at Alibaba

https://www.ccn.com/bitcoin-cash-network-highly-centralized-49-of-all-nodes-run-on-alibabas-facilities-bitpico/

“The [Bitcoin Cash] attack has been started; it will continue to run as we work to amplify it over the coming months. We expect to have 5000 Bcash attack nodes in roughly 6 weeks and then we will multi-fork the chain. @rogerkver will now cry,” Bitpico tweeted at the time.

Bitpico members are, however, not alone in accusing the Bitcoin Cash network of lacking decentralization. Last year in December Bitcoin developer Nick Szabo made similar accusations. Earlier in the year, a project manager at the Identity Division of Microsoft alluded to Bitcoin Cash by criticizing blocksize increases as being anti-decentralization. At the time Bitcoin Cash was planning to increase its blocksize fourfold from 8MB to 32MB and this was eventually realized in May.



Yeah Its Time Roger

403  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: July 14, 2018, 12:13:20 PM
bch is better than btc and truely the only right chain
Jr member with 52 activity gets his first merit point for saying bch is better than btc.....shocking
lol, pump me up to senior member please, bch is wayyyy better than bitcoin, they might co-exist together as each is a unique identity, one is more like peer to peer, the other is like store of value

Who would Roger Ver want to run his bitcointalk thread for bitcoin cash
Who would roger help in the MTGox Hack
Who would roger help in the big block debate
Who would roger help at Cryptsy, Lucky7coin
Who did Roger know at butterfly Labs Asic miners
Who did Roger know in the Silk Road operations under FBI investiagtion,
Why is Roger at the center of it all

Gotta hide the real blockchain hey Roger
Bitcoin thanks

All this aside, let’s put some reality into this debate.
I live in Venezuela where central banks have essentially failed. Despite this failure, merchants still have yet to adopt Bitcoin as payment due to fees, some use Bitcoin Cash and this is growing. But for the most part I have to use BTC regardless because localbitcoins is BTC.
If you follow @Dolartoday on twitter you’ll see 1 USD was trading at ~100,000 Bolivars in January to ~3,500,000 Bolivars today. For this reason I have to sell BTC at least 3 days a week. Those fees actually add up to more than my partners medical doctor salary per month.
When I see such irrelevant Roger Ver accusations and much worse idiots like Tone ‘No-brain’ Vays and Jimmy ‘always-wrong’ Song in their stupid cowboy hats trying to hide the fact the fact that they are balding out of Core BTC stress saying things like: ‘bcash is irrelevant,’ and ‘Roger Ver Scam’ LOL Faketoshi and centralization, BitPico H4x0r, only store of value!
You look like fucking idiots denying real world solutions subject to a global population. Look at our population growth and tell me the blocksize increase doesn’t correlate such rapidity. Putforth a half decent argument for once over there on the Core side with more than just baseless accusations and Roger Ver conspiracies.

What has my points got to do with you using Bcash, go ahead not stopping Bcash at all, Bcash away, Just sayin Bcash is not Bitcoin and a reminder leave the Blockchain alone.

.."Put forth a half decent argument for once over there on the Bcash side with more than just baseless accusations and Roger Ver conspiracies."...

I agree

Have you got anything?

Did you read past my argument on fees being higher then a doctors salary in Venezuela?
I see you managed to say ‘Bcash’ 5 times in 2 sentences. Further proving my point  Roll Eyes

Yes and what point. 



this point might affect your transactions, I hope not, this guy Roger has been screwing with peoples investments for a long time



Nick Szabo once said that "Bitcoin Cash is centralized sockpupptery". Bitpico is now proving it true.

https://twitter.com/bitPico/status/1017514874291843072

Quote
We now understand the centralized nature of #bcash $bch. It is just a UAHF (user activated hard fork) Sybil setup to force the hands of all nodes and miners in the ecosystem. Without this setup @JihanWu & @rogerkver are powerless to control their network. #bitcoin #nodes #matter

Quote
Forcing the decentralized portion of the network to upgrade to a hard fork codebase via a centralized Sybil attack is nonsensical? You do realize a #bcash $bch hard fork is scheduled and they are using these nodes to force the hands of the entire network. #blockchain #ignorance

Roger Ver is always convincing everyone in the community about the "non-mining nodes do not matter" narrative for good reason. Always be cynical if you see someone else saying it in the forum.

Some newbies might not know who is Nick Szabo. Read this, https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/genesis-files-bit-gold-szabo-was-inches-away-inventing-bitcoin/
404  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 14, 2018, 06:18:18 AM
I used the right word. I've looked this up before. Only a few months ago because I just to make sure I was doing it right. Then refers to time, than refers to consequence.
If it doesn't look like bitcoin is rallying, than zoom in and out until it does.
I went to the store, then I went home.
Are you willing to bet your dick on that?
Well no... maybe I misunderstood what I purposely went out of my way to make sure I learned...
Here's an easy way to remember the usage of than and then :
 I would rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy but if I had to have a frontal lobotomy, I would rather have a bottle in front of me then the frontal lobotomy.
 edit: that was lame... I'm going to bed Wink
don't matter much where I'm at ..in Minnesota...everyone just uses then Smiley (just the way it is midwest accent and all) ...just saying
er just to be clear ...they SPEAK then for everything as well...so the written word just follows what ..Minnesotan's say...anyway...
brad

Interesting

baets tklaing abuot btiicon


405  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Supreme Court pick Brett Kavanaugh on: July 14, 2018, 05:54:20 AM


Seems like a great pick to get the ball rolling.

A lot of problems with Supreme Court judges over the last 4 years
406  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune on: July 14, 2018, 05:05:01 AM
Re: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4575874.msg41411073#msg41411073

Verifying my (old) zero balance wallet address for blockchain research etc., ...
Note that signing a verifiable message from an early block or the genesis block is exactly what the real Satoshi should be able to do. I, for example could sign a verifiable message from any block from my old wallet.dat - main thread here:
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4630066.0

Verifying my (old) zero balance wallet address for forum account recovery etc.,

1JXFXUBGs2ZtEDAQMdZ3tkCKo38nT2XSEp

Code:
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
I am not Satoshi Nakamoto. Are you?
42/ is the answer.
Be seeing you at The Restaurant at the End of the Universe?
0.00000000 - BitcoinFX - bitcointalk.org - July 9th, 2018
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1JXFXUBGs2ZtEDAQMdZ3tkCKo38nT2XSEp
HMoTNpmqieWmcIvF/aMTCZlLqAuYnrWuQJk45S0pXK4pFOAB/j2WBTkA5KEGSpJQTclPL3ehaTSdPpV9Ivq+lC0=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

https://brainwalletx.github.io/#verify?vrAddr=1JXFXUBGs2ZtEDAQMdZ3tkCKo38nT2XSEp&vrMsg=I%20am%20not%20Satoshi%20Nakamoto.%20Are%20you%3F%0A42%2F%20is%20the%20answer.%0ABe%20seeing%20you%20at%20The%20Restaurant%20at%20the%20End%20of%20the%20Universe%3F%0A0.00000000%20-%20BitcoinFX%20-%20bitcointalk.org%20-%20July%209th%2C%202018&vrSig=HMoTNpmqieWmcIvF%2FaMTCZlLqAuYnrWuQJk45S0pXK4pFOAB%2Fj2WBTkA5KEGSpJQTclPL3ehaTSdPpV9Ivq%2BlC0%3D


A lot here I am missing and struggling to piece together

Theory of Everything
Satoshi Nakamoto
KLM
The Plan - Q
Bitcoin 2
Segregated Witness
Roger F#$kin Ver
Gavin F$%Kin Andreessseeen
Liberty Reserve
Julian Assange
IXCoin I0Coin
Current geopolitical movements and arrests
BitDNS
Zero (Still working on this keeps coming up)
Secret Projects

etc etc etc

Time, I will be able to piece it together, hopefully before the storm (if it comes)
407  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 14, 2018, 03:10:58 AM
Here's a short-list of posters that frighten me:

PoolMiner
HairyMaclairy
LastOfTheV8's
Bob
Nanobtc
MajorMax
Anon136
Theymos is (still) sort of iffy


Updated. This list is subject to change without notice.

What's so frightening about them may I ask?


Nothing

Just be wary of members who know hardly anything about why the bitcoin blockchain is essential in the currency war against the centrally controlled banks


Right. Us experts know that the Bitcoin blockchain is essential because it's the only way to buy most of the crank on alphabay.

Whats an alphabay, I know central banks, blockchain, currencies

Is it a criminal thing something central banks would use to do bad things, get their coke, make hits etc
408  Other / Serious discussion / Re: Was bitcoin created by the NSA? your thoughts on: July 14, 2018, 03:03:54 AM

Very interesting all your theories

4) Decentralized - How to make it centralized *Theory* (Would need a lot of Investment Huh what would it look like - polished. )

Looks like Bitcoin was a NSA code leaked by a Libertarian scared of Central Bank Control *Theory*



They are interesting and lead to things I am not privy to


Bitcoin's first main competitor was Etheruem (big money, very polished, and a lot of solutions but centralized)

NSA or Intelligence agencies were researching peer to peer currency

Currency and other assets are always centralized and monoplized for individual greed

Hence why would bitcoin be a viable solution



409  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 14, 2018, 01:04:00 AM
Here's a short-list of posters that frighten me:

PoolMiner
HairyMaclairy
LastOfTheV8's
Bob
Nanobtc
MajorMax
Anon136
Theymos is (still) sort of iffy


Updated. This list is subject to change without notice.

What's so frightening about them may I ask?


Nothing

Just be wary of members who know hardly anything about why the bitcoin blockchain is essential in the currency war against the centrally controlled banks




410  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: July 13, 2018, 01:16:05 PM
bch is better than btc and truely the only right chain
Jr member with 52 activity gets his first merit point for saying bch is better than btc.....shocking
lol, pump me up to senior member please, bch is wayyyy better than bitcoin, they might co-exist together as each is a unique identity, one is more like peer to peer, the other is like store of value

Who would Roger Ver want to run his bitcointalk thread for bitcoin cash
Who would roger help in the MTGox Hack
Who would roger help in the big block debate
Who would roger help at Cryptsy, Lucky7coin
Who did Roger know at butterfly Labs Asic miners
Who did Roger know in the Silk Road operations under FBI investiagtion,
Why is Roger at the center of it all

Gotta hide the real blockchain hey Roger
Bitcoin thanks

All this aside, let’s put some reality into this debate.
I live in Venezuela where central banks have essentially failed. Despite this failure, merchants still have yet to adopt Bitcoin as payment due to fees, some use Bitcoin Cash and this is growing. But for the most part I have to use BTC regardless because localbitcoins is BTC.
If you follow @Dolartoday on twitter you’ll see 1 USD was trading at ~100,000 Bolivars in January to ~3,500,000 Bolivars today. For this reason I have to sell BTC at least 3 days a week. Those fees actually add up to more than my partners medical doctor salary per month.
When I see such irrelevant Roger Ver accusations and much worse idiots like Tone ‘No-brain’ Vays and Jimmy ‘always-wrong’ Song in their stupid cowboy hats trying to hide the fact the fact that they are balding out of Core BTC stress saying things like: ‘bcash is irrelevant,’ and ‘Roger Ver Scam’ LOL Faketoshi and centralization, BitPico H4x0r, only store of value!
You look like fucking idiots denying real world solutions subject to a global population. Look at our population growth and tell me the blocksize increase doesn’t correlate such rapidity. Putforth a half decent argument for once over there on the Core side with more than just baseless accusations and Roger Ver conspiracies.

What has my points got to do with you using Bcash, go ahead not stopping Bcash at all, Bcash away, Just sayin Bcash is not Bitcoin and a reminder leave the Blockchain alone.

.."Put forth a half decent argument for once over there on the Bcash side with more than just baseless accusations and Roger Ver conspiracies."...

I agree

Have you got anything?
411  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: July 13, 2018, 10:50:48 AM
bch is better than btc and truely the only right chain
Jr member with 52 activity gets his first merit point for saying bch is better than btc.....shocking
lol, pump me up to senior member please, bch is wayyyy better than bitcoin, they might co-exist together as each is a unique identity, one is more like peer to peer, the other is like store of value
Who would Roger Ver want to run his bitcointalk thread for bitcoin cash
Who would roger help in the MTGox Hack
Who would roger help in the big block debate
Who would roger help at Cryptsy, Lucky7coin
Who did Roger know at butterfly Labs Asic miners
Who did Roger know in the Silk Road operations under FBI investiagtion,
Why is Roger at the center of it all

Gotta hide the real blockchain hey Roger

Bitcoin thanks

Satoshi's Bitcoin was never about single people - and single people cannot achieve really much.
It was always about the quickest and best supply of global cash in form of a real scarce digital money and best possible security to use it:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3378014.msg42014849#msg42014849
Name calling irrelevant

It was always about Trust, the debate is irrelevant



412  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 13, 2018, 07:54:19 AM

Wow that was a lot  Grin Grin Grin


@billyjoeallen
..sh*t IMHO is going to hit the fan..

I loved Bitcoin, but it's MySpace. I'm looking for the FaceBook of crypto. Bitcoin was pioneering, but a pioneer is a guy lying face down in a pool of his own blood with arrows in his back.  it's something to learn from.  

Am I missing some other relevant metric?

How do they determine value





There we go the short version

1) Yes shit always hits the fan with bitcoin
2) bitcoin blockchain cannot be duplicate holds evidence
3) Metric is Buy the Dip!
4) Value is what you are willing to pay

413  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin vs Bitcoin Cash on: July 13, 2018, 07:28:29 AM
The most important difference between Bitcoin cash and Bitcoin is that Bitcoin cash handles more transactions per second than Bitcoin, but its computing power is concentrated on the bit continent, and as the volume of transactions increases, Bitcoin Cash will continue to expand the block size in the future, but the bitcoin block size is 1M

Who would Roger Ver want to run his bitcointalk thread for bitcoin cash
Who would roger help in the MTGox Hack
Who would roger help in the big block debate
Who would roger help at Cryptsy, Lucky7coin
Who did Roger know at butterfly Labs Asic miners
Who did Roger know in the Silk Road operations under FBI investiagtion,
Why is Roger at the center of it all


Gotta hide the real blockchain hey Roger

Bitcoin thanks

414  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: July 13, 2018, 07:19:09 AM
bch is better than btc and truely the only right chain

Jr member with 52 activity gets his first merit point for saying bch is better than btc.....shocking

lol, pump me up to senior member please, bch is wayyyy better than bitcoin, they might co-exist together as each is a unique identity, one is more like peer to peer, the other is like store of value


Who would Roger Ver want to run his bitcointalk thread for bitcoin cash
Who would roger help in the MTGox Hack
Who would roger help in the big block debate
Who would roger help at Cryptsy, Lucky7coin
Who did Roger know at butterfly Labs Asic miners
Who did Roger know in the Silk Road operations under FBI investiagtion,
Why is Roger at the center of it all


Gotta hide the real blockchain hey Roger

Bitcoin thanks
415  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 13, 2018, 01:28:29 AM

@YourMother great TA



trolls what you gonna do




12 July 2012. The Gentleperson's Guide To Forum Spies

https://cryptome.org/2012/07/gent-forum-spies.htm

25 February 2014. Related: GCHQ Full-Spectrum Cyber Effects:

http://cryptome.org/2014/02/gchq-cyber-effects.pdf

24 February 2014. Related: GCHQ Online Deception:

http://cryptome.org/2014/02/gchq-online-deception.pdf

GCHQ DISRUPTION Operational Playbook:

http://cryptome.org/2014/02/gchq-disruption.pdf

29 January 2014. Related: GCHQ Squeaky Dolphin Psychological Operations:

http://cryptome.org/2014/01/gchq-squeaky-dolphin.pdf (18MB)

4 March 2012. Precursor to this sabotage, OSS Sabotage of Organizations:

http://svn.cacert.org/CAcert/CAcert_Inc/Board/oss/oss_sabotage.html

416  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 12, 2018, 10:13:21 PM

Great opportunity to buy into a wall or

Sell down a lot

Bitstamp wall

https://www.bitstamp.net/market/order_book/
417  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin vs Bitcoin Cash on: July 12, 2018, 01:10:37 PM
I do not really trust Roger Ver that Bitcoin will lose popularity. I'm not in a hurry to transfer my bitcoins into Bitcoin cash. I still hope that Bitcoin can be technologically improved with the help of some additional applications.

https://www.rsk.co/

It's time to run your dApp on RSK!
We always put security first at RSK. Therefore, we are opening our MainNet Network in a staged approach.
Register here to get fuel to run your smart contract solution on RSK Network.


https://lightning.network/
Lightning Network
Scalable, Instant Bitcoin/Blockchain Transactions



As well all the cloned bitcoins and hard forks are applications of bitcoin
418  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 12, 2018, 07:06:30 AM
nasdaq -
The trade war escalated with the Trump administration saying it will add 10% tariffs to another $200 billion of goods from China by August 30.

https://twitter.com/Nasdaq/status/1017073861937057792


http://business.nasdaq.com/marketinsite/2018/MID-July/July-11-2018.html

so there's a hope in bear months?



The Central Banks Agenda To Bring Down The Economy Has Been Exposed - Episode 1613a

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mDV8xDLmTY
419  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 12, 2018, 06:58:31 AM

While I don't trust the government and understand that those in power will always want more power, I have a hard time believing in most grand conspiracies. I kept an open mind about 9/11 being an inside job but never saw any evidence that convinced me. One big one for me was when Sarah Palin's personal e-mail was hacked and released to the world. Reading through them it was exactly like you would expect of a candidate running for office...e-mails to various people asking for support and other every day type of stuff. Sure you could say she had some alternative means of communication for talking to her fellow conspirators...but I just don't see it.

One of the biggest reasons I don't believe the all powerful government conspiracy is because I've worked for the government for the past 20 years and the incompetence within is mind blowing. It is very much built into the system to reward incompetence. To think that anyone involved in the government is an evil mastermind would require that they be a mastermind in the first place...and they just do not exist. And if they do, the motivation is to go into private industry where that is rewarded.

I'm not saying I'm not smart, but I acknowledge that I'm one of the laziest people you'd ever meet (at least after 20 years in government). I likely would not have done very well in the private sector. Or rather, I may have done better starting out in that sector. I realized early on that productivity is definitely not rewarded. Staying under the radar and having the right buzzwords in your resume is all you need. I also claimed to be a Native American (which I am...born and raised).

The very reason Bitcoin was built as a tool against the Central Bank Global Control (Conspiracy theory)

IMF, BIS, US Fed, Reserve Bank AUS, Bank of England - Rothschilds

Some conspiracy theory that still exists today


Why were early adopters of bitcoin so enthralled about being free of central bank control, its all in the discussion on this forum in the early days


anyhow regardless of any conspiracy the corruption prevails

420  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 12, 2018, 05:30:40 AM

Does not matter if its true

they believe it is and seem to be running the narrative

Some of the facts they point to are Arrests, Resignations, Suicides

The patriots talk about the current global war (over 2 years now) and continue the fight



Do not care that it is true, the support by everyone in fighting corruption and criminals is essential anywhere, particularity against those in positions of power who seek to monopolize

Scientists, Doctors (72 arrested so far), Priests, Bankers, Judges, Politicians, Educators, Media etc etc etc




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