As long as Kane will score at least 1 or 2 goals every game, it's safe for Bayern but I agree to you that clean sheets are rather rare this season for FC Bayern, especially in Champions league. Group stage of Champions League is rather easy but after group stage, Bayern needs to be careful.
Surprisingly, Bayern had a clean sheet in their 0-4 victory against Dortmund.
Looks like Bayern inconsistency is back on the menue...

And with Guirassy being back for Stuttgart, I'm hoping for Stuttgart to remain competitive but that's probably only wishful thinking. 

Yes, very important part. We have to be careful which way we are taking. That's what LoyceV described as well. There are so many disagreements on the forum, so much of it related to DT but in the end we have to ask a question: are we here to post / read content about Bitcoin, about the forum community like the upcoming Bitcointalk Awards or do we want to waste our lifetime with fighting each other?
I'm in favor of option 1. 


And it's a waste of our lifetime. We could do so many positive things instead of fighting each other.
There are so many downsides with fighting while little to nothing to gain.
In Bitcoin speculation terms, we would say "It's not profitable at all", like a shitcoin. 


Well written post, where I can agree 100%. 

As far as I can remember I've not given you a negative trust.
And I'm allowed to add you my distrust list because of our harsh disagreement in P&S board, what changed my ability to trust your judgement. That's not a "punishment", that's simply a sign of disapproval of judgement. I wasn't planning to have you on my distrust list until the end of all days.
Because time is an important factor and possibly, this can be settled over time. But this remains to be seen after what happened the past days.

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These lines I can (mostly  ) agree to. Sometimes discussions can be heated. And to a certain degree this is also part of DT somehow, if not, that wouldn't be DT. 
As you've said there, it's important to remember that these endless escalations are not helpful for anyone.
Despite being extremely disappointed what happened the past days, I believe this is the right call to make.
We can disagree, we can fight but after all we have to remember that we are here on BITCOINtalk.

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I've just started the topic because at the time, when I've created it, this particular message got lost in the drama in your topic very quickly.
But I can lock this topic if you want. 

+1
Topics in Reputation can get quite heated and that's part of the game but as you've said, it's always important to find a peaceful solution, to stop name-calling, to stop pouring oil in the fire.
That's what a good DT member should do and advocate for. After all, this forum is called Bitcointalk, not P&S talk.
Many members have stated the opinion here how important it is to remember that. 
We won't drink a beer together but at least, we can peacefully co-exist in the forum. 

You are the one lying here by cutting out the fact that the talk is about our discussion in P&S, here's the uncensored quote:

The ugly things you accused me back then (and you still do it today), that I would deny dead children in Gaza is simply disgusting and reason alone to distrust you if you think it’s ok to switch my words like that and you even show no guilt at all, when I’m exposing this.
I'm not going to trust people spreading lies about me and other members and in general, a flawed ability to do research like you did on B &S board is a sign for bad judgement. We have the same issue here in Germany, trust me I know how to deal with these propaganda pushers (unless our socienty doesn't fall apart before due to their malicious division and hate campaigns).
The community has tried here to start a level-headed discussion, which is a reasonable approach in my opinion, that's why I've agreed to LoyceV.

But the only thing you are able to is to repeat the same bullshit again and again because you are running out of arguments.
You are obsessed with it and you are simply too radicalized to notice this.
As said before, I’ve got accused 2 years ago in the German section, that I would be anti-Isreal after I've critized the Israeli settlers in the west bank.
Now, I'm getting accused that I would be anti-Palestine for criticizing Hamas.

This is not helpful for anyone.

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It's not possible to have a reasonable discussion with you.
Simple as that.

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The issue was settled after 2 days as I believed it would be best to part ways and of course, I took my conclusions. Getting my words twisted back and fort, getting tons of stupid accusations and name-calling from your radicalized posts, your spot on my distrust list was well deserved and will be well deserved further because I'm not re-evaluating it for the time being due to your actions over the last days.  
I'm done with your nonsense.
But looks like you are still mad.  

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You clearly haven't read my post.  

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A step further, that you will grow a thicker skin and don't call it abuse when you get on my distrust list after your bullshit performance in P&S. At least we know now that you would resort to disgusting lies against me and word twisting any time again. That's not someone I want to remove from my distrust list any time soon.


Then, you should stop to twist my words and stop writing things I've never said.


I can collect all of your childish missteps and present them on a new topic in Reputation, how about that?
Would be very helpful for both of us and more unnecessary drama or are you planning to do this:


I'm not in favor of that, I'm in favor of this:



Again something of the sort "might", "possibly", "I have the feeling" = unproven speculations!
Don't you believe in people to settle things peacefully? Or are you just trying to keep the hate going, while everyone is calling for a peaceful solution?
It's a very important point of DT and part of growing a thicker skin.

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Wow, thanks for confirming that you are just trying to silence me with the big hammer instead of any other civil solution.  

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But be careful that it's not coming back to you because your posts are increasingly looking very desperate that you won't reach your "goal" to leave any damage against me and this might not be a very good look for you especially due to the fact, that your arguments are very weak.
Should everyone create a thread about the same issue, when someone has some beef on the forum, Reputation would be a clown show.

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I will continue to disprove your reaction in our P&S discussion.
You think that my reaction is not appropriate and a "punishment" for you.  
I don't have any reason to remove you from my distrust list but I will have to accept, that you don't agree to that.
You can continue to be mad at me (if you like so) but you'll have to accept that any unproven accusation does not help.

We won't come together here but we can try.
The community would like that we can try.
So we can try to agree to disagree. Enough wasted internet space...

I'm two years younger than you.

Let DT and admins (seriously, how delusional are you?) decide that and no, I didn't "punish" anyone but if you would like to twist it like that, mikeywith is trying to "punish" me because I dared to exclude him from my trust list because I disapprove that I got bombarded with lies and misleading accusations when we had our disagreement.

However, I believe with trolls like you, a debate is like playing chess with a pidgeon. No matter how many valid arguments we will bring up, the pidgeon will jump on the chess board and ruin everything...

I thought after some reasonable community thoughts, we would be able to get a meaningful discussion and solution but well...  

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I wouldn't care less. Feel free to do it if you feel better after it.

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The details are not irrelevant at all as your post here is a great example what lead to your exclusion of my trust list.
It's not possible to have a resonable debate with you because you are completely radicalized on this issue. After 3 weeks, you are still having a serious issue against me, while I thought the issue was settled and we would move on.
Your post here once again is a great example how you are name-calling me, how you are trying to twist my words, how your emotions took over any reasonable thought and most importantly, how you keep lying about things I've never said.
Yes, I distrust such a behaviour.
Yes, you don't need to agree.
Yes, you will end up on my distrust list for that. You can complain all day long about me but luckily, everyone can see now that you are the issue after many people here were up for a reasonable debate but you came up with lies and unproven accusations again.

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I'm only seeing one child here, where any reasonable debate is impossible because your entire statements are driven by emotion to bring up hate and misleading accusations against me.

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After reading your hateful comment against me, while we were already a step further with examplens and LoyceV, there's no doubt that you are the one, who's acting emotional and without any possibility to reason with. Sometimes it's very helpful to read your comments again and think twice if it's not better to add a bit less hate and accusations.  


Once again, these lies coming from you are disgusting but that's something I already know from you and that's why you are on my distrust list.
Your accusation is just untrue, I've never done this, I've even said that:


Still, I'm getting misleading accusations left and right from mikeywith.

2 years ago, in our German section, some people accused me that I would be anti-Isreal after I've critized the isreaeli settlers in the west bank.
Now, I'm getting accused that I would be anti-Palestine for criticizing Hamas. With blunt lies, of course.

Should I invite these people here that both of you will have a clash, while we are watching with popcorn?  

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If any, Royse777 is right. The situation there is completely messed up and as most people, I would be happy if Palestinians and Israelis would peacefully co-exist.

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The whole accusations of this topic are a nothingburger. If any, the topic shows very well how impossible it is to reason with mikeywith after the issue was almost settled.
But hey, now we know why I've put mikeywith on my distrust list and everyone can understand my move.  

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Fair point, I've changed that as I believe a reasonable debate is possible with you. Sometimes, it's better to move on and sort it out peacefully.  

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Thanks for your feedback LoyceV, as well.

I can agree here and that would probably the worst outcome, helping no one.

Your negative tags are all within the limits of negative trust due to your abuse in the forum and you can be happy that you are not banned due to your massive trolling. But even plagiarizers don't get banned these days so, thats no benchmark at all.

You are well aware about your abuse, still you are trolling everyone who dares to point this out. Are you surprised why no one trusts your flawed judgement here? Is everyone wrong on DT but our troll digaran is always misunderstood?
And guess what? I can put you on ignore as well and don't give out ans Merit for your troll posts and thats also completely fine (or are you saying otherwise?  )
And still, you are calling me and others on the Forum "Nazi" for no reason.

You would be surprised that I've come over digaran's troll posts quite often and some of them also contained "political b.s.", in addition to the things we know so far. Most of his feedbacks are from 2023 and that's no surprise because digaran keeps engaging in excessive trolling, derailing topics etc..
I could have done that way sooner and should have done this way sooner.
I try to avoid trolls as often as possible but like we know from digaran he's quite obsessed with his excessive trolling.

That's true and as for every case I'll also review what I can do to avoid more of such drama. I've not been the one starting this clown show in Reputation but obviously my trust list and my removed feedback really bothered mikeywith to an extent that he needed to start such a topic and that's why I've suggested he should have a thicker skin. My trust list is not his business as long as I don't include scammers, give out unjustified negative or positive Trust or something else. Only thing he wants to do here is to intimidate me, how I have to use my feedbacks or trust list because he fehlt offended that I removed him from my trust list and my positive rating after our disagreement in P&S.
I thought this topic was settled already and we would move on, yet he started this topic out of nowhere. Of course I'll point out misleading accusations then.

And yes, sometimes it's best just to agree to disagree (and stopping to interfere in my Trust list) but for the current case it remains to be seen if mikeywith is willing to do the same and agree to disagree. Repeated name calling and insults of all sort should be settled after some time. That's part of having a thicker skin.

It's not allowed to use existing links in our trust feedbacks anymore? Who are you to decide that?
And once again, you are spreading unproven accusations because I'm well aware of the wrongdoings of digaran.
As I've said I gave him a pass way earlier because trolls are a waste of time.

But with your accusation, that I wouldn't have read about the issue, you are once again engaging in pure speculations.
Not the first time, where you've run out of arguments and instead of proof, you are trying to push your weak and unproven accusations like "might", "could" or "probably".
What a weak Clown Show from you but I didn't expect anything else from you. Truly disappointing that you need to resort to such shady practice of defamation to score points here.
Just disgusting.

Luckily, I'm neither a racist nor a nazi. And I believe the same applies to Don Pedro Dinero, who was accused to be a "Nazi" as well in your excessive trolling rant.
Do you have some more aggressive name calling nonsense? Maybe Ratimov can learn something from you. 

According to your logic, you are "punishing" me with a smear topic now because you are offended about my trust list and my removed positive feedback on your account. Still you are accusing me of being "Power hungry", while I couldn't care less who's distrusting me or how many positive feedbacks I have.
Nice clown show, isn't it? Have you been that vocal when there was real abuse ongoing, like from Ratimov?

After I've thought this could be settled in a civil way with you and I even wanted to reconsider my trust list exclusion at some point, I don't see any possibility right now why I should change my viewpoint after your topic littered with unproven accusations.

Where is any proof that I've included scammers on my trust list?
Stop acting like a child, where your only argument is "could", "would" or "might be".
That's shady as shit and shows that YOU are not fit for DT and have a horrible judgement.
Your posts are just empty speculations without proof.

So, I don't trust any weasels and at this point you deserve a fixed spot on my distrust list.

Since you keep your smear topic going against me, I'm well allowed to point out your misleading topic, where you are trying to "punish" me (that's how you call this) for simply distrusting your judgement due to our disagreement in P&S board. I've so many idiots in my DT list and there have been very little complaints about it, that I've excluded them from my trust list. 
Seems to be that you are afraid about my topic otherwise there wouldn't be any need for you to ask me such strange questions, where even you know the answer. Bring up accusations against me = expect that I'll address them. What else...


I didn't make any mistake, mikeywith. I can customize my trust list inclusions and exclusions as I like, for certain reasons like attitude, sort of arguments etc. for pushing fraudulent shitcoins, opposing my educational topics, doing bad translations, opposing privacy, shilling CSW, plagiarism and also their attitude in political discussions and that's none of your business.

If I include any proven abusers in my trust list, present the proof here but you can't because your accusations against me are empty.

Now, you are trying like a weasel to discredit me with your topic but no surprise, nobody cares.
I don't need anything from you anymore.
We will go different ways and that's completely fine for me.
Deal with it and grow a thicker skin.

Many thanks for your positive feedback. I appreciate it very much, especially because I didn't expect it.  

Because he doesn't have any arguments left. Like Ratimov did against GazetaBitcoin, there's just name calling left. And "Nazi" is one of the most common insults. On the forum, 99% of the cases where someone is called "Nazi", the accused person doesn't share Nazi ideology.
So, instead of presenting some arguments, it's a Nazi.
Just few days ago, stompix made a very good comparison:

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It's even more impressive how he messed it up. Even the most level headed and calm DT1 members took action. That's really unprecedeted and probably Ratimov still thinks he's right.  

Exactly that, each participant here on the forum is eligible to distrust anyone for their judgement they don't like. We can agree or disagree to anything, DT will change based on the viewpoints of each community member. Of course DT will also have a look at possible abuses but there has to be valid proof not just speculation. There have been controversies all day. Sometimes justified, sometimes not justified.

What I don't like are smear campaigns where mostly speculations or personal feelings are the whole issue.
That's helping no one but as usual DT will also sort out these issues. If someone doesn't like my DT or forum activity or the DT activity or forum activity of mikeywith, distrusting is an easy thing to to and that's how DT reaches consensus.
If someone doesn't like the DT system don't participate but I think everyone should participate in DT to make it more decentralized.

Of course we will have forum trolls as well, who will pour oil in the fire but DT will survive ans sort this out, too.  

I've hoped that I didn't need to post this topic but due to the fact that mikeywith keeps his accusations and dort campaign against me going, I’ve decided to post this topic finally.

I know, this shouldn't be controversial at all but after mikeywith brought up a strange accusation against me, I believe it's helpful to clarify a few things.
I’m not someone who likes to create unnecessary drama, so I’m having a very simple approach but more about that later.

The accusation of mikeywith against me boils down to a recent disagreement between us, where mikeywith pushed islamist propaganda but got very angry when this was called out by me.
After a very heated interaction, I thought we would agree to disagree and avoid each other to prevent both of us wasting time for this. I’ve put mikeywith on my distrust list due to this incident until further evaluation. Of course, mikeywith continued to spread his bullshit propaganda but I’ve ignored that because that’s his issue and I’m not the one to seek drama.

Then, few weeks later, mikeywith starts slapping in my face with his shit-stirring topic „Is 1miau fit for DT?“, where he accuses me of being „incompetent for DT“, while mikeywith seems to be the one who’s not getting over my distrust list entry due to that incident we had back then.

It’s new to me that we have to explain our distrust list entries. There are tons of beef on the forum and everyone is well advised to grow a thicker skin if someone doesn’t like certain trust exclusions. Imagine the drama we would have here if everyone reacted like mikeywith did.

I’m deeply disappointed by mikeywith with his poor attempt now to damage my reputation due to our disagreement. The recent accusation of mikeywith against me is just another approval that I did the right choice by adding him on my distrust list, which I can recommend in general. Creating drama dirt campaign with misleading accusations is what I would expect from our anti DT forum trolls.


This can also be a helpful advice: when it comes to DT, who's including / excluding you on their trust list, growing a thicker skin can be helpful instead of shady attempts to damage one’s reputation. After all, misleading accusations will come back to the ones spreading them.  

Interesting that mr hypocrisy Ben Codie is also joining the discussion to give his biased feedback after his appearance in "Advertised services and participants in a paid sig campaign"

You might have noticed that your recent case about your Signature campaign hypocrisy doesnt has anything to do with DT? I'm not surprised at all because it just shows that the things I've pointed out in that topic are pretty valid about your campaign hypocrisy.

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Once again, a bunch of threats from you against me, as you would decide the entire DT decision... Luckily, you are not the one to decide what happens in DT as it's a decentralized System and your idiotic attempt will backfire.
Thanks for showing your true face to everyone.

Here you go, lets expose your malicious dirt campaign: mikeywith needs to grow a thicker skin when it comes to DT issues. Maybe the known trolls will comment there to side with you again...

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No one is "punished", you just can’t face criticism and to cover this up, you claim to get "punished" or "oppressed".
Propaganda pushers always need to rely on the "victim card", that they are "oppressed", "intimidated" or "punished" because that’s all they can do due to a lack of their arguments, due to the fact how ridiculous and obvious their propaganda lies are, so of course, they will play the "victim card".
Here on the forum and also in real life, this same tactic is applied in Germany by our 3rd Reich legitimizing asshats. They are always playing the victim card. That's all they can do.

Just read how often you are using the accusation, that these propaganda pushers would be "oppressed", "intimidated" or "punished". They are not "oppressed", "intimidated" or "punished". They simply can’t face any criticism or pushback for their actions. They just want to offload their propaganda in the forum without any criticism or accountability for their actions. Of course, it’s allowed (and even recommended) to oppose such a behavior.
So: no one is "punished", people claiming this just can’t face criticism!

The big issue you fail to understand here is that your action has no Merit at all.
All you show is how butthurt you are and you are playing the victim card, how unfair "mean DT" would treat you.
You are at -6 Trust for a reason and no one likes your malicious behaviour.
But you gave the perfect explanation for "trolling" and "derailing the discussion" by stirring shit against certain members who are against your bullshit here. It's very sad that marlboroza is not around anymore. But we have some other members to keep trolls like you in check.
So, keep digging your troll hole.