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421  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: Earn Bitcon Cash (BCH) by completing small tasks on our crowdsourcing plattform on: May 28, 2024, 07:50:42 AM
Why would you pay in it, instead of bitcoin?
Have you tried paying a small amount in Bitcoin lately? BCH fees are 1000 times lower, so it can be used to pay a few cents. I don't like it, but it works. I prefer Monero though: fees are still 100 times lower than Bitcoin, but at least you're not supporting a total shitcoin.
422  Economy / Reputation / Re: 🍕 Bitcoin Pizza Day on Bitcointalk on: May 28, 2024, 07:47:09 AM
I'm lucky to finish this pizza before June 1st so that I can participate in the Pizza contest this year. The toughest challenge was not in making the pizza, but in making a fairly small Bitcoin mold (Cutting a thin used aluminum baking tray and shaping it to resemble the Bitcoin symbol, then attaching the 2 parts using a glue gun).
Did you know you can just order a "Bitcoin cookie cutter" online?
423  Economy / Services / Re: [FREE TRIAL] LoyceV's convenient (paid) service for signature campaign managers on: May 28, 2024, 07:14:52 AM
Bump
424  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: (Ordinals) BRC-20 needs to be removed on: May 27, 2024, 11:01:30 AM
today's fee (about $1 based on https://mempool.space/) isn't that expensive if you don't make micro-transaction.
But it's too high to go mainstream. I think we, as a family, make up to 200 financial transactions per month. If we'd have to pay $1 for each of those, that would take a significant chunk out of our monthly budget. Obviously this won't be fixed by removing Ordinals (and others), but this is how I compare costs when thinking about a scaling solution.
425  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How can a newbie be whitelisted on: May 27, 2024, 10:08:42 AM
You can also visit LoyceV thread for remove this proxyban-
This is literally explained in the message shown to proxybanned users. People who don't read, don't deserve to be whitelisted.
426  Other / Meta / Re: How would the forum feel/react if Casinos were banned like Mixers? on: May 27, 2024, 08:48:38 AM
I don't think he's in this for the money primarily.
Confirmed:
I don't care about making money from the forum personally.
427  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Silent payments on: May 27, 2024, 08:12:44 AM
If the receiver consolidates all his donations (as an example of a good use case for silent payment), then the overall privacy gains are reverted, because all the senders can now see all the donations of other people.
That's like a "pay2spy" solution for chain analysis companies. They'll have to donate before they can link transactions.

Your Bitcoin wallet -although digital- works exactly like your physical wallet not like your bank account.
Kinda Tongue One large difference is that in Bitcoin, you can choose your own denomination. I've seen altcoins (BlackBytes) that have fixed denominations (like banknotes). In Bitcoin, unlike banknotes, your change is always one input.
428  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: I REGAINED access to Bitcoins in my made-up brainwallet! on: May 26, 2024, 08:16:35 PM
Out of curiosity: the subtraction of 1 from the intermediate 6P private key (I assume after conversion from WIF to hex format, otherwise the WIF's checksum would break) is an intentional obfuscation step?
I'm not subtracting "-1", I'm adding it (see this example) as a nonce. I could use "-2" to get the next address. In a way, they're like hardened private keys: if one leaks, it's not possible to find the next one.

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Simple brainwallets (by human standards) are in many cases fundamentally flawed which has been proven. You simply can't use anything that's online available as source for a simple brainwallet (simple in terms of taking only the SHA-256 of the source phrase as private key).
Have a look at WarpWallet.
429  Other / Archival / Re: [LOAN REQUEST] GIVE $50 LTC GET $50 BTC on: May 26, 2024, 07:55:56 PM
you are more than welcome to leave a negative trust rating if you decide to do a deal with me. I take my BTT account very seriously.
Lol. What I told you 5 days ago applies again:
I don't think you understand what this is about.
430  Economy / Reputation / Re: 🍕 Bitcoin Pizza Day on Bitcointalk on: May 26, 2024, 03:00:05 PM
First:
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This means I stand a chance Cheesy It almost feels like cheating, she's about a million times better at this than I am.

Now:
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431  Other / Meta / Re: Artificial Intelligence on the Forum on: May 26, 2024, 02:59:17 PM
using AI isn't the same as plagiarism and as far as I can tell still falls into a grey zone--at least for now.
I'd argue chatbot verbal diarrhea is plagiarism by definition. I've already seen claims against those companies for using data as input without permission (which is a copyright issue). They reproduce bits and pieces of other data without sharing the original source (which is a plagiarism issue).

I don't call it "AI", because I don't see how this is "intelligence". It reminds me of fuzzy logic a bit. If it would be intelligence, those companies wouldn't need a human CEO Wink
432  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: (Ordinals) BRC-20 needs to be removed on: May 26, 2024, 02:28:16 PM
when was the last time you used BTC and paid something with it?
Last week. Your point being?
433  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: [May 2024] Fees are low, use this opportunity to Consolidate your small inputs on: May 26, 2024, 01:24:30 PM
You're saying there may not be enough demand to fill 10 MB blocks. I'm saying the lack of demand may be because it's currently impractical to use. As they say: "fix the money, fix the world"!
Let's look at the closest evidence we have to verify this claim: altcoins.

- Bitcoin Cash is the Bitcoin fork I'd use if I was forbidden from using Bitcoin. Total transactions in the last 24 hours: 14,546. Block size limit: 32 MB, block interval: 10 minutes.
- Total Litecoin transactions in the last 24 hours: 181,694. Block size limit: 1 MB, every 2.5 minutes. (in 10 minutes: 4 MB)
- Total Dogecoin transactions in the last 24 hours: 62,270. Block size limit: 1 MB, once a minute. (in 10 minutes: 10 MB)

Total Bitcoin transactions in the last 24 hours: 862,464. If high on-chain capacity is what the world wants, then we should expect them to have migrated, and do more on-chain transactions there. It's clearly not the case, though.
I see what you did there. Although I expect the total number of Bitcoin transactions excluding the ones spamming data to be less than the total Litecoin transactions. But more importantly: I don't want to have to move to altcoins, and I'm guessing I'm not the only one. I do have some small amounts for small transactions, but I'd prefer to use Bitcoin for that.

In the past year, how many payments have you made that are worth $50 in fees? I can't think of anything.
I didn't. I am as guilty as the most. The closest I can get is a consolidation I've waited for patiently for a couple of months and I've still ended up paying about 15$ in fees.
I didn't only mean Bitcoin transactions, I meant all financial transactions you make. I can pay by bank, without extra charge. I can pay by Paypal, they charge the receiving party several percent. I can pay by cash, no extra charge. Consolidating Bitcoins doesn't really count: that's the only thing where you have no alternative. For anything else, I have options.

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Look at El Salvador, they are happily using Bitcoin, not really caring it's in most cases actually in others' custody.
And I would not be surprised other kinds of Bitcoin IOUs will catch on.
That's why I don't mind using custodial LN.

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*sigh* we may be the lucky ones who got to own actual Bitcoins (or satoshis) like the ones owning gold coins 100 years ago.
Just like we may be the last generation who gets to hold actual paper money and metal coins. Chances are that's gone in a few decades.
434  Other / Meta / Re: Is this forum getting worse and worse? on: May 26, 2024, 01:06:22 PM
Do you think that creating a friendly "mobile" version of this forum or at least something interesting (e.g. a chat box, or any kind of improvement, etc.) would at least attract more users and entice the old members to stay relevant?
I never liked "mobile" versions. This is a forum, most people on mobile write terrible short post (see what I did there?). You need a decent keyboard to save a lot of time posting. So I expect less quality posts if this forum becomes more mobile friendly.
A chatbox would be the opposite of a forum: chats usually aren't archived.
435  Economy / Reputation / Re: 🍕 Bitcoin Pizza Day on Bitcointalk on: May 26, 2024, 12:55:39 PM
Only one pizza per user
May I suggest an exception for pizzas that clearly belong together?
436  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: I REGAINED access to Bitcoins in my made-up brainwallet! on: May 25, 2024, 04:30:43 PM
BIP38 with segwit addresses would be non-standard, because it only mentions encoding the address into compressed or uncompressed base58.
I could create a Segwit address from the resulting private key.

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I don't think anyone actually uses BIP38 anymore outside the collectibles community.
I think you're wrong, but can't prove it Wink

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There are better ways to encrypt large amounts of private keys especially the ones that are derived from HD keys.
Do tell: how? What standard encryption is heavy enough to keep $1000 secure for 2 years with password zLwMiR, even after giving hints? I'd like to use something better, but I haven't seen anything that follows a standard.
For the record: this exercise wasn't only about encryption, it was about remembering everything from scratch.

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PS: Your algorithm for deriving a brainwallet is quite hard to remember Tongue
That's why I wrote it down Wink
437  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: [May 2024] Fees are low, use this opportunity to Consolidate your small inputs on: May 25, 2024, 04:13:38 PM
You are only partly right imho. Yes, Bitcoin has to grow. But increasing block space doesn't solve this properly, only move the problem for a bit later.
Since 2023, the problem moved the other way: there's much less blockspace being used for normal transactions.

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On the other hand, innovation tends to come when there's a need for it. And we do need innovation, for a proper scalability solution.
If it would be easy, we'd have it by now.

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we start getting used to use on-chain transactions only when it's meaningful (hence worth paying even 50$+ for it). For the rest, for small amounts like for example the signature campaigns or paying for VPN, sorry, but LN, no matter how imperfect it is, is the solution we should really consider.
Who's going to open a LN channel if it costs $50? And another $50 or more to close the channel? If something goes wrong (which has happened to me opening a channel), you're down $100 without any results.
In the past year, how many payments have you made that are worth $50 in fees? I can't think of anything.

If blocks are ten times larger (and still full), just 1 sat/vbyte is enough to double that.
That's a bold hypothesis. We're 15 years after the creation of Bitcoin, and how many users actually do "legitimate" transactions? Like, transactions where they don't just store trash using tapscript. 'Cause I remember before Ordinals, I was paying 1 sat/vb and had it confirmed within the next few minutes.
I remember the end of 2017: blocks were full, and fees were crazy. Even back then, I felt like Bitcoin can't grow if it's too expensive to use. I'd like to make much more transactions than I do now, but the price is too high. Who's going to accept Bitcoin as a payment if it costs too much to transfer it again? I just paid my VPN, which I could have done with Bitcoin, but I used Monero.
You're saying there may not be enough demand to fill 10 MB blocks. I'm saying the lack of demand may be because it's currently impractical to use. As they say: "fix the money, fix the world"!

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And as I already said, I'm not arguing that a subtle block size increase will destroy the fee market competition completely. It's just not going to resolve the scalability issue.
Agreed. It's not a permanent fix. But it may give Bitcoin some space to grow until there's a better solution.

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My concerns are more about what will happen in 20, 50, or 100 years from now.
How do you see Bitcoin in 20 years, if the majority of users can only "own" Bitcoin on a CEX or ETF?

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This may sound a bit anti-Bitcoin, but after four years of exploring Bitcoin, I've come to an important conclusion: Bitcoin is not meant for buying coffee or conducting other low-value transactions, at least not on-chain. It represents the best monetary standard we can have, and using it for such purposes undervalues its true potential.
My worry goes deeper: can it be a monetary standard if it can't be used by normal people?

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If you want a peer-to-peer cash system with low on-chain fees, excellent privacy, and a similar level of decentralization, then Monero is the ideal choice. It functions exactly as desired. Its dynamic block size is superior to any fixed size if your sole goal is to maximize the number of on-chain transactions.
I synced Monero's full blockchain a while back, and it's much more demanding on the system than Bitcoin's IBD, even though Monero is much smaller. If Monero would have more transactions than Bitcoin, I expect it to become impossible for home users to run their own node. I like Monero, but I don't think it can scale to many more transactions.

There is a more problematic math at work here, every time Bitcoin grows the amount guarded grows, with Bitcoin at 1 million there is 19 trillion in wealth there
The only "worry" is for the amount being transfered. That's the part that can be replaced in a 51% attack. There's no moment all 19 trillion is at risk at the same time.
438  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: I REGAINED access to Bitcoins in my made-up brainwallet! on: May 25, 2024, 03:05:18 PM
I don't get this part:

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1. Passphrase > brainwallet > uncompressed privkey
This is a better description:
Code:
1. Passphrase for brainwallet + passphrase2 for BIP38 (on air-gapped bitaddress.org) > compressed key (starting with 6P)
2. Take this 6P encrypted key, add -1 at the end, and use this as passphrase to create a brainwallet. Fund the compressed addy

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If you didn't initially know the address then when you use the private key to generate its base58 address, you could've checked it for a balance on a block explorer, without the other steps.
I didn't know the address nor privkey. Now I know both again.



As an example (I did this online because it's only for testing):
  • Go to bitaddress.org
  • Click Wallet Details
  • In privkey field, enter "longpassphrasetoremember"
  • Tick "BIP38 Encrypt"
  • Enter "extrapassphrase" and click Encrypt BIP38
  • Click OK to use it as brainwallet
  • The resulting encrypted privkey is 6PRKrgToVFyMzHL3qYa9Pq7e1ZugAiaYGYUxK2ccVaUoSeK9PYnqFti5Br
  • Now create a new brainwallet out of "6PRKrgToVFyMzHL3qYa9Pq7e1ZugAiaYGYUxK2ccVaUoSeK9PYnqFti5Br-1", and use compressed addy 14ut6qNTdRaexXRtMjYQc7bkStr2FLNfhk 1BsQ1rYAi2nNpnqpCLyQS4fkV4dEf3jegB to store funds (don't use this one, obviously)
  • Before funding anything, see if you can reproduce your address from scratch
This is what I did. By now, a Segwit version would be better.
439  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: I REGAINED access to Bitcoins in my made-up brainwallet! on: May 25, 2024, 01:45:44 PM
Guess what: I figured it out! It turns out my mind had added a character to my passphrase, that shouldn't be there. Without it, I can recover the address.
To me, this proves (and/or confirms) 2 things:
1. My "it's all in my head" storage system works.
2. My "it's all in my head" storage system is far too risky.

The funny part is: I took notes of the method I used, because I wasn't sure I'd remember all the details (even though, as a relative Bitcoin Newbie back then, I didn't realize the first 2 steps could have been done in one step). What surprised me, is that I doubted the method I wrote down, and not the passphrase I memorized:
I do remember the passphrases used. I won't say I'm 100% certain, so let's say I'm 99% certain those are correct. That makes it likely there's something in my method that I can't reproduce.
It was the other way around. It's funny how my mind tricks me into trusting .... my mind Grin

Lessons learned
Don't do brainwallets Tongue Even though I'll keep this one for now, it's still not recommended. And if you do insist (which you should only do if you know for sure it's difficult enough to withstand brute-force attacks): keep a backup. Or just don't do it. But if you do, and if you can't restore it in the future: please open a topic about it Tongue

which address I put in my email then, in 2015, when I received my 10k sats?
That's not much to go on. It gives 71,371 possible transactions.
440  Other / Meta / Re: Wouldn't it be nice for edited posts to reflect on wherever it was quoted? on: May 25, 2024, 09:18:39 AM
I'm going to ignore all reasons why this is bad, and only focus on a technical reason:
I quoted
You wrote this!

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I quoted
And you wrote this!

Now edit one of the "I quoted" texts and tell me which one of mine should be updated. It's impossible to know.
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