This chart assume that ethereum is traded at $1900, but after pos, everybody will move to more secure pow blockchains and ethereum can fall as low as $19
and Vitalik Buterin will be plugged into Bezos's butt(AWS) for validation lol Anyways, GPU mining for profit will be dead for at least a year after the merge. We might shift from direct profit as an incentive to a speculative incentive. GPU owners will gamble on a coin that has the potential to moon. It will be like pre-2017 bitcoin bull run all over again when miners were never in profit, and would hodl instead. Like this farm from 2015 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8kua5B5K3IAll core dev call has just wrapped up. Devs have decided to delay the difficulty bomb. Initial block delay adjustment is as published in the proposed EIP-5133 ( https://github.com/ethereum/EIPs/blob/master/EIPS/eip-5133.md) but the delay value may be adjusted. Fork to implement the delay is planned to go in effect around Jun 29. Also, second testnet for merge will be Sepolia, beacon chain for Sepolia will launch around Jun 20 with merge TTD to follow around 2 weeks after. Thanks for the update. Odds are pretty much the same since I last checked them. Still a good chance of happening during September. If ETH crashes below 1000, we will get to test philipma's theory. |
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Fair enough, no hard feelings. I should have made a better and more professional explanation initially.
For a moment I was convinced that Stake has become the new 1xbet. Apparently not. Still not happy with how Stake advertises itself on Twitch. It's not my business or my job, but I hope you will stop doing it. An adolescent with a gambling problem is a destroyed life. This is probably my last message here, hoping it will bring some positive change. Pax et Bonum  |
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When you sign up for Stake you agree to a series of terms and conditions, these conditions are broad but are put in place to prevent abuse. Every betting account is given their own limits, when your limits were reduced you started making additional accounts and providing false documents not belonging to you in an attempt to defraud us. You even went on Stake chat and made offers to buy accounts that had limits over $10k on specific sports. None of this was recreational action, you amassed at minimum 15 accounts and used these to profit significantly off your "value bets" which you also offered to sell to other chatters. Primarily having access to a faster feed on the french open and cashing out at points of value right before an odd swing was a great strategy for you . When placing that same bet across 15 account you were able to make these "value bets" very profitable as it was a positive expected value initiative for you, you even offered to sell these bets given how confident you were in them. We have a right to refuse action from players like you which we did, you were able to get your money out on your initial accounts. Then you continued to buy and make accounts and we continued to limit but you kept buying or farming more accounts. On just Palamar (OP's account) you earned profit of $53k using "value bets".  Stake chat Logs from Palamar translated from Russian 3:32 PM 5/22/2022 ru Ecть y кoгo aкки гдe пpиeм нa тeнниc 10к$? Translation: Does anyone have an account where the admission to tennis is $ 10k?
1:04 AM 5/22/2022 ru oт 10к$ Translation: from 10k$ 1:02 AM 5/22/2022 ru Ктo кpyпнo cтaвит ecть? Translation: Who bets big? 12:59 AM 5/22/2022 sports_en WHo need valuebets&
Stake takes advantage from being a crypto offshore casino, and not being as famous as largest sportsbooks but if it makes bad things with their customers I don't think australian authorities will appreciate that, neither american, canadian and english ones since it is doing business with sport organizations and personalities from those countries for advertising.
Yup, they are accountable to no one. This is why people prefer Vegas and regulated books. But not all countries got a Vegas or a legal book, so they are forced to bet on offshore books. Then this happens and you can do NOTHING (even if your account was verified by the book itself before you started betting lol, funny and scary at the same time) This user actually reported this matter to our regulators who will review the case, given the mountain of evidence against them I have no doubt we will win. Obviously edgycorner being in touch with this group there is absolutely no doubt in my mind that they are offering you some money to be their puppet here. I was alleged of the same thing by Twitchyseal on this thread, I have already disclosed all of my communication with OP(here and outside). Until now there was no strong evidence from your side. As I have already mentioned on the other thread. "I will renounce my support the moment you provide any evidence." https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5401642.msg60310671#msg60310671They are yet to be proven a "scammer". All I see is a profitable punter suspended by a book.
But once Stunna proves that they were indeed abusing the book with "evidence", I will renounce all of my support. This will be my last task on this forum. I can see that you have provided proof, so I will rescind it. My job is done here. |
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Stake takes advantage from being a crypto offshore casino, and not being as famous as largest sportsbooks but if it makes bad things with their customers I don't think australian authorities will appreciate that, neither american, canadian and english ones since it is doing business with sport organizations and personalities from those countries for advertising.
Yup, they are accountable to no one. This is why people prefer Vegas and regulated books. But not all countries got a Vegas or a legal book, so they are forced to bet on offshore books. Then this happens and you can do NOTHING (even if your account was verified by the book itself before you started betting lol, funny and scary at the same time) |
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Let this be known that OP's account was level 2 verified. Stake already had OP's identification. So they were given the green signal to go ahead and place their bets(but weren't told that they wouldn't be allowed to win  and will be suspended if they make a profit and try to withdraw it). If you're right, the case is serious because it would become an undeniable scam from the casino. OP mentioned this fact in their post. I don't know why other members fail to see the seriousness of this accusation. |
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Moreover I don't understand why you are saying in your feed back the accusations are fake while it's not denied that the funds deposited by the plaintiff have been illegally seized by the casino. On a brand new forum account, OP claimed funds were frozen for having multiple accounts and winnings were mainly from slots. Stake is a casino, Sportsbetting or slots. It doesn't matter how a punter makes his money in a casino, as long as it's made through legit bets. It would be harder for OP to prove the legitimacy of their winnings if it was slots, but with sports-betting there are bet slips(which can be accessed publicly on stake) + OP has provided all the betslips as evidence long before stunna made their first reply(check imgur link). Making it very hard to deny the legitimacy of their winnings. You're responding to allegations that haven't been made. After being limited, OP used multiple accounts to get around the limit. That's the allegation. Stake said "we don't want your action over $X" and OP pretended to be multiple different people and then wagered more than the limit. This individual placing bets obtained their profit from betting on sports not casino on 15+ accounts. They made these accounts to circumvent limits and restrictions put on previous accounts and have used their entire extended family's ID along with other potentially bought or borrowed ID's in an attempt to get around these limits. We have a number of methods that gave us very high confidence to link these accounts far beyond the ID's used. I don't want to share all details of the investigation as they will try to find ways to circumvent in the future. They have made a substantial profit all in all because of their use of a bulk of accounts.
The same question arises again, If it is indeed true, then why did it only become a problem when they were winning. A player is free to break rules, as long as they are losing? But once someone starts to win, the winning customer will be put under a microscope to find any faults and will be held liable for them without providing any verifiable evidence to back their claims(Since Stunna has already said they won't give any evidence about how connections b/w these accounts were made)? There would have been no problem from Stake's side if OP lost all of their deposit(100k), why would it be? In a way, OP was playing a losing game. It's a violation of trust and a predatory practice. Let this be known that OP's account was level 2 verified. Stake already had OP's identification. So they were given the green signal to go ahead and place their bets(but weren't told that they wouldn't be allowed to win and will be suspended if they make a profit and try to withdraw it).I am also curious about why their previous accounts(if any), were limited or banned. Did they break a rule? They played a fair game and won the money through legit bets. They are ready to verify their identity. I even asked for a video verification for my own purpose(to make sure I wasn't supporting an impostor). For obvious reasons I won't share the video here, it should be OP's choice.(Edit: I can see that they have already posted a video here) https://streamable.com/9wmyr4If Stake can prove that OP was involved in something illicit (with evidence) then Stake should at least return their full deposit back.
If they can't provide evidence or prove anything, then OP deserves all of their balance(deposit+profit)Edit: They deserve all of their funds. Else Stake will be violating their own T&C And since their gaming license is more or less irrelevant Source:https://www.gamblingsites.org/laws/curacao/ I would consider them a rogue casino, if they fail to do so. Since they will be held accountable to nobody and are free to exploit their customers when the opportunity presents. In this case, it is a Ukrainian woman.
All transactions shall be checked in order to prevent money laundering. If a player becomes aware of any suspicious activity relating to any of the Games of the Website, s/he must report this to Stake immediately. Stake may suspend, block or close a Stake Account and withhold funds if requested to do so in accordance with the Prevention of Money Laundering Act or on any other legal basis requested by any state authority."
Which government agency has requested a seizure of my funds? Am I breaking money laundering laws? obviously not..
Then on what legal grounds are you holding them? You can kick me out, but you can't withhold funds.
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Moreover I don't understand why you are saying in your feed back the accusations are fake while it's not denied that the funds deposited by the plaintiff have been illegally seized by the casino. On a brand new forum account, OP claimed funds were frozen for having multiple accounts and winnings were mainly from slots. Stake is a casino, Sportsbetting or slots. It doesn't matter how a punter makes his money in a casino, as long as it's made through legit bets. It would be harder for OP to prove the legitimacy of their winnings if it was slots, but with sports-betting there are bet slips(which can be accessed publicly on stake) + OP has provided all the betslips as evidence long before stunna made their first reply(check imgur link). Making it very hard to deny the legitimacy of their winnings. I made a bot to go through OP's bets, These are the stats since Stunna won't provide them Total wagered through sports: 147.29365611999987 ETH Total winnings through sports betting : 24 ETH ~ 47,000 USD 50% of the amount was wagered in slots and they lost most of their profits in slots ig Here's the log of my bot: https://pastebin.com/YChd51TKit's a simple code of 11 lines, lmk if you want the code too. Also, as a regular on Stake for years, that talks to many other regulars on Stake, I know for a fact that Stake very rarely freezes funds, and when they do it's not for having multiple accounts. If they started doing that, I would hear about it, and we'd have multiple accusations from credible members in no time.
That's the whole issue. This is what I don't understand. Stunna has failed to provide any other reason. and yet you go on to defend them for some reason (and even call OP and me a scammer, albeit any rational mind won't agree with you) Only Stunna can resolve this if they are able to provide a valid reason for the suspension and still holding 40,000 USD Your "feedback" on my profile applies to you more than me Be wary. He is adamantly and irrationally defending someone. I don't know what his motives are, but his arguments are definitely not in good faith.
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TwitchySeal removed negative trust from your account, which was the main purpose of opening this topic. as you can see, the forum members got active and helped to correct the mistake. as this topic is no longer needed, you can lock it, and keep the discussion of the case between Stake and PalamarNadia in the thread that already exists for it. it is pointless to have the same discussion in several places. Locked. |
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Np!
I am not going to be here long enough to follow up with my installment plant.
Can you receive the rest of the payment in Ripples, or any other alt with low withdrawal fees on binance? I am ready to pay extra if it will be a problem for you. Please reply with your ripple address and tag, ty
I am ready to receive payment on any reputed alt currency which you feel free. I have no problem as I will convert that an which will deduct only a small amount of fee. Network: Ripple; Wallet: rEb8TK3gBgk5auZkwc6sHnwrGVJH8DuaLh Momo: 354143327 If you need any other network then let me know, thank you. 194 XRP sent from my side. It's showing as an internal transfer. https://imgur.com/a/N7nFxSBThanks again Shashan. This loan really helped me that day You are a good man |
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Plus reference link does not lead to proof of "your mistake", but to the comment of someone completely different (forum moderator from Stake casino).
Stunna explains Stake's position in this dispute and it seems to be a rational and plausible explanation. He says multiaccounting is allowed except when abused in sports betting to bypass limits that are there for a reason. Both PalamarNadia and edgycorner continue to argue in bad faith ("Doesn't a player have the right to bet on sports on a gambling site?" or "many users on Stake do hold multiple accounts", et cetera). So the trust rating is factual, the reference is good, but I think it should be neutral since it is essentially about an "opinion". If a sportsbook starts banning people for betting on "sports", it does raise a few questions. Stunna's explanation still doesn't answer "how those bets aren't legit" and "how can a player profit from multiaccounting on sportsbetting". Again, this should be left to be discussed on the thread itself. I am bringing this here, to elucidate that my stance is anything but irrarional. It arises from my immense distrust on casinos, which is only fair. To each his own. OP is actively helping a scammer (attempt to) scam in a thread that's clearly a fake scam accusation. Before Stunna posted, I gave him the benefit of doubt, assuming he was just misguided. But afterwards, rather than changing course he doubled down.
I see these fake scam accusations in the gambling community as a serious problem. Too often players take advantage of this forum to extort casinos by rounding up a mob. This makes it easier for scam casinos to scam, and harder for players who were actually scammed find justice.
I've changed it to neutral because I don't see OP as "in on it", as well as some of the points made above/not wanting to create drama. I hope this doesn't cause OP to change his mind about leaving.
They are yet to be proven a "scammer". All I see is a profitable punter suspended by a book. But once Stunna proves that they were indeed abusing the book with "evidence", I will renounce all of my support. This will be my last task on this forum. My decision to leave this forum is a healthy one.I should be thanking you(but I won't lol). My purpose lies elsewhere. |
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the fact that someone has made a lot of money does not oblige him to waste it. he can spend it however he wants, this is not your or our problem. I'm not sure why you're emphasizing that here. they certainly wouldn't have that much money if they allowed everyone to break the rules and pay out all the dubious winnings. I would love some of your opinion on how Stake heavily advertises itself on Twitch via paid streams as well.
what really hurt you here? Red feedback from TwitchySeal or not paid $40k to PalamarNadia?
I would say that negative feedback does not end life, and only if you are behind this Nadia profile, then I understand why you are so unhappy about these $40k.
This is what twitchyseals alleged, and I proved them wrong. Please don't be presumptuous. If I had anywhere near 40k, I wouldn't be asking for a loan on this forum to pay my bills and feed the cats  And about leaving the forum, I had my run here. I don't want to waste my youth fighting with people on the internet. Why saying goodbye to bitcointalk forum when you did nothing that deserves getting negative feedback? I am calling all other DT members to review this case, but Twitchyseal should not be giving red trust like candies, and he should at least change this feedback to neutral. I appreciate all the good work and contribution in past, but this is just overzealous in my opinion. Thank you. I have always thought of bitcointalk's DT system as the three estate hierarchy followed in Europe before the french revolution. I don't think we(the third estate) have any say about the position of users above us (or even our own position) but we can always try like the peasants' revolt of 1381 lol(it will be futile but we will get to take a shit on the queen's bed) |
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Sounds to me like the typical drama of the Reputation section, where someone ends up red tagged not so much because of the trade risk, but as a result of a heated discussion that gets personal.
At least I will leave this forum with dignity and not as a shill for a predatory casino that pushes gambling to kids, destroying countless lives just to fulfill their materialistic needs(like buying a $40m Mansion). Goodbye btctalk (will still continue to help Nadia tho, won't abandon them due to some shill) |
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The value of bitcoin has fallen a lot ever since shasan fulfilled my loan request. I have decided to stick with fiat value, instead of bitcoin value at that time. I don't want sashan to suffer the loss of a bear market for being a good guy and helping me out. As proposed via PM, I will be repaying the loan in three installments of $40 each. I have made the first payment of $40 https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/fd2ad24735c33d5e7332cf1a4d49379d241ef463c1246116bf036ab5f618bf92Two more to go Thanks again for helping me out during a desperate time! I have received the partial repayment which we have discussed via private chat. Thanks for the prompt contact and make the initial installment. Hope you would be able to repay the rest asap. Thanks for considering fiat too though it wasn't required and price up and down doesn't heart me as I am giving the loan which I want to hold for a long time. Np! I am not going to be here long enough to follow up with my installment plant. Can you receive the rest of the payment in Ripples, or any other alt with low withdrawal fees on binance? I am ready to pay extra if it will be a problem for you. Please reply with your ripple address and tag, ty |
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Congrats fillip, your mother will be proud of you ( i guess)  Surprised that my Pizza could get even 4 votes lol Thanks to everyone who voted for my newagehip pizza |
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Hello everyone, A user left negative feedback on my profile, which reads as follow: [Be wary. He is adamantly and irrationally defending someone that is using the forum to manipulate a casino with fake scam accusations. I don't know what his motives are, but his arguments are definitely not in good faith. What stands out are the words "adamantly" and "irrationally". This is very ironic, given how Twitchyseal's own arguments have been out of context and proven wrong by me again & again. It all started when a newbie "PalamarNadia" started a scam accusation against Stake for holding their 40,000 USD, suspending their account, and how they are unable to withdraw any even though the account is in "withdrawable" mode. They were suspended for breaking a T&C and were accused of having multiple accounts. I found this to be very absurd since any customer can be accused of the same breach, and many users on Stake do hold multiple accounts. It only became a problem for Stake because they were in profit and not losing their money? There are many unanswered questions, which are best left to be discussed on that thread itself https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5400984.0 Then twitchyseal decided to participate in the conversation and instead of adding anything of value to the discussion, were just repeating whatever was already discussed https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5400984.msg60285215#msg60285215 (Even went on to make a comment on a video that they didn't watch or couldn't comprehend ) I requested them to read the post and the thread before making any further replies. But instead, they decided to ridicule and judge OP for being a "newbie", forgetting how every user is just a human and their status on a forum doesn't devoid them of justice or answers. Even went on to muddy up my character by alleging "Were you offered any sort of compensation for successfully helping OP get paid? " https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5400984.msg60290032#msg60290032It did upset me greatly, I recorded all of my conversation that I had outside of this forum and provided it in a Video & picture format. Not sure if Twitchseal can do the same Up to this point, twitchyseal failed to add anything of value to the discussion, but continued to pass on judgment in their kangaroo court. So I decided to include them in my ignore list. Now today, they left negative feedback on my profile Not sure if this is personal vengeance or a means to censor any criticism against Stake? I will leave it up to the members of this forum to decide |
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I was thinking of applying Sorry for the post, I will delete it once 24 hours have passed |
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In this case, the most important question is whether the game is still provably fair? If it is, the casino wouldn't be able to rig the game since they can't predict the result of the next bet, even if they know your next roll.
OP was using autobet feature with a fixed pattern in a game of mine. The boxes are already selected when you use the auto-bet on mine. So yes, Stake can predict the roll and thus the result(whether they will lose or win) in such cases. Thanks for helping me figure this out. Here is the full json log of that day: https://easyupload.io/qeadykAlso i can confirm i was indeed playing on mobile. For me the fact they don't put a flag in the logs weather a bet is auto or manual is a signal for leaving a door for rigging things. Also for me 200$ is tottaly in the budget to lose so its not about the cash here, and about who we can trust. I plotted a graph of your last session. Time difference is in ms  Notice the spike in time when the roll was going to be a winner, and the bet should have increased. |
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What I still fail to understand is, how can someone make any kind of profit by creating multiple accounts?
Were they farming referral bonus? But given how there's almost a 10%~15% house edge on sports betting, it's impossible to farm a referral bonus. Maths won't add up.
Different players have different limits on how much they can wager. If they think you've found an edge somewhere, they lower your limits for those types of matches. If they think you're a whale, you get higher limits. One way to get around the lower limits is just make a bunch of new accounts. if you get caught you can always try to gain sympathy by posting on bitcointalk to try and extort Stake while pretending to be a girl from a country that just got invaded by Russia. Getting your money is called extortion? Can you somehow prove that I am "pretending to be a girl from Ukraine" or should we believe your authoritative words? I can't open my stats because my account is in "Withdrawal Mode". Can you ask your steak girlfriends to open it once you need it? Please don't pick fights with him. He's trying his best to deviate this thread from the topic. Ignore this user. Imagine supporting stakeEdit: Stake is more or less unregulated with their Curacao license. The greatest disadvantage of a license from Curacao is that it doesn’t have much meaning. Just about anyone serious about starting a gambling site can afford the fees and make it through the initial investigation. As long as you have the cash and a fair casino, you’re pretty much in.
Players are well aware that the licensing standards in places like Curacao don’t mean much compared to licenses from other, more discerning jurisdictions. Casinos licensed by Curacao have suddenly gone rogue, stolen money, and disappeared. Curacao doesn’t intervene in disputes between players and operators. From the player’s point of view, a license from Curacao is meaningless.
Of course, there are plenty of safe and respectable gambling sites licensed in Curacao. It’s a safe, legal place to establish an online casino. However, casinos located in Curacao must build their own reputations the old-fashioned way. A license from Curacao isn’t the quick ticket to trust.
If you do run into any trouble with their licensing or have any specific questions that aren’t answered here you can contact them any time. They make it pretty easy to get in touch with them through phone or email. Also for more information on what they are all about you can visit their website as well. All of their information is below: Source: https://www.gamblingsites.org/laws/curacao/ |
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It is because pos = piece of shit and death for eth.
ETH was always shit. Remember when they literally deleted coins from the chain? lol Fck Vitalik Buterin. That guy even considers child abuse less harmful than adults hooked on drugs(imagine even comparing them). I can post that tweet here, if someone's interested. So if they delay and eth crashes to 800 they push it forward to save eth ------ and eth dies in 1 or 2 years. their defense is at least we tried to save it.
If they move in august with prices in the 1500-2500 range and eth craters - they crushed eth and have no defense.
While I do agree with your opinion about ETH & VB, I find it hard to bargain with this one. VB's focus has definitely shifted from the economic aspect of ETH to expanding on ETH's turning-completeness. Now whether or not the rest of ETH devs follows the same philosophy and how much influence VB has on their position are two unknown entities. ETH will crash if any client encounters a bug after the merge. That crash will be brutal and definitely the end of ETH. I hope this is the case,everyone want to continue mining,and what would be the best case scenario is that they say in September we go PoS,only smart people will build cheap rigs like a near 400 Mhsh rig with just 2000-2200 EUR and then they say we will delay it for another 6 months,or for another year.For now the price of video cards are dropping like crazy so for the bold people who think like me it is a golden opportunity to get cheap video cards and continue mining.Hope they keep delaying it for at least summer 2023.
Summer 2023 is very optimistic bro This isn't a good time to buy cards for sure. Be it for mining or gaming. We are soon getting 4000 series launch |
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