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441  Other / Meta / Re: Merit and Discoverability on: January 26, 2018, 08:15:49 PM
This is really a nice suggestion but there is a downside to this. After sorting through posts merit wise, new comments will get ignored. Those posts with merits will get more visibility and may be more merits.

This is legitimate, except it wouldn't be the default view. The default view will still be whatever we have right now. So when you land on a thread, you'll see all the new posts on the last page, etc. However, if you'd like, then you can only show the Merited posts.

New comments shouldn't get ignored, since only a selected few will even bother to show all the Merited posts only. Besides, you cannot have a discussion based only on the Merited posts, so you need to see the default all posts anyway to extend the thread.

The Merited view will have a select function, e.g. if you're new to a thread and want to quickly get a 'gist' of what's going on.

Indeed! It's impossible to have a proper discussion or to learn much more than what OP says there. I've posted 2 suggestions there but it seems to be in the oblivion now (one of those does have merits).

Indeed, that was my experience in that thread too. Made a few suggestions, one or two got Merited, but got drowned out in the new flurry. One of the reasons I decided to start a new thread.
442  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin makes it to Davos, government talking heads are pooping their pants[...] on: January 26, 2018, 07:17:09 PM

Well, it is quite a superficial article, just mentions three quotes and makes some quite obvious remarks. Reality is a bit more complex.

Stop reading 'summaries' and go directly to the source. Here's the hour long video on crypto assets at Davos 2018: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MZv9fLLfa4
443  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM (XEM) Official Thread - 100% New Code - Easy To Use APIs on: January 26, 2018, 07:11:24 PM


Automated tagging doesn't work. All the attacker needs to do is send some NEM to all the richlist addresses. Please be careful trying to implement something like this. There is a reason cryptos need fungibility.

The NEM/Coincheck teams need to try and get in touch with the hacker and see if they can negotiate something. The attacker will find it hard to sell out with the exchanges closing/blocking transfers.
444  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM (XEM) Official Thread - 100% New Code - Easy To Use APIs on: January 26, 2018, 06:59:30 PM
700k coins will do that to you. I really believe/believed in this one and all this is rather depressing. I’m of the belief that reputation/marketing are of huge importance and this just doesn’t help.

Pah. It's a rite of passage.

And note that Lon Wong's statements took the time to emphasize the on chain security features that Coincheck pointedly failed to use.

Question is whether those features would deter any hack.

Also I didn’t realize a fork was happening for catapult...speaking of which is catapult ever happening?

Thanks

Of course those features would have reduced the probability of a hack. There is nothing called perfect security. However, what Coincheck was using was quite bad indeed.

Two of the very basic security practices that every single exchange should use for every single crypto that they handle are -
  • Multi-sig wallets: If one key is compromised, the attacker cannot steal all the funds
  • Cold Storage: Majority of the funds need to be stored on a device that has never been connected to the internet

Then, the exchange needs to create processes around these basic security requirements. For example, how many key holders exist in the multi-sig wallet? Where do they store their keys? How do they communicate if they believe they are compromised, and what steps do every one else take if this happens? Where are the cold storage keys located? Who authorizes transfer of funds from cold storage to hot wallet? How often can this happen?
You get the point.

If you're running an exchange without Multi-sig and Cold Storage, then you're at fault.

This hack isn't a problem with NEM. It is a problem with the exchange practices. The NEM foundation has offered to help, but there is only so much they can do in this situation.

One would think this exchange has been around long enough to have learned from other exchange hacks to know how important these security steps are..

The more reason to use some of the exchanges that are actively communicating how much effort they put into security.

I am shocked they've been operating since 2012 apparently. That's 5+ years of bad security. Unbelievable.

I am afraid all the newbies would think somehow this means 'NEM got hacked'. Seriously, people need to do some homework here.
445  Other / Meta / Re: Merit and Discoverability on: January 26, 2018, 06:53:35 PM
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446  Other / Meta / Merit and Discoverability on: January 26, 2018, 06:50:18 PM
Introduction

The new Merit system was introduced in the forums to try and improve the quality of discussion. Users need both Activity and Merit to reach the next levels on the forum. Merit is earned based on quality of posts, while Activity is earned based on quantity of posts.

Discoverability

The Merit system can function as a really good discoverability mechanism if done right. This is a data point for the forum. Forum posts, unlike say Reddit posts, don't have an upvote/downvote feature. However, now they do have the +Merit feature. This means each post has a 'score' associated with it, which can simply be the sum total of all the Merit received by a post.

This can really help surface good content. This is because the default content today is sorted chronologically. Some of the older posts that may have been really good are lost. There are great threads with 100+ or even 1000+ pages of content. If you're new, it is very hard to wade through all of them. Merit is a great way for you to find good content.

Say there is a price discussion thread. It has tens of thousands of pages. However, a few of the posts with some evergreen content, for example a valuation model or mental models to think through what gives Bitcoin value, are valuable to the community, and likely Merited if they deserve it. New forum members can see these posts more easily.

Suggested Implementation

I would suggest the following -
  • For every thread, have a button that says 'Show only Merited Posts', which would only show the posts that have received Merit

From a discoverability standpoint, I see this working as something similar to Reddit Gold. Sometimes, there are hidden gems that get downvoted due to groupthink (think about Greg Maxwell posting on r/btc, for instance). Someone gives a Gold to a really good post and it stands out. But more importantly, I can see all the gilded posts of a subreddit.

We can implement a similar type of discoverability on the forum. For example, in the entire thread discussing Merit right now, it's 50+ pages. It's hard to go through the whole thing. I'd like to see the Merited posts, because it is a filtering mechanism. This should help the forum moderators filter through suggestions as well.

Benefits
  • Discoverability
  • Easy to Catch Merit Abusers - if everyone can see bad posts getting a 50 Merit, you know something may be off (selling Merit, multiple accounts, etc.)
447  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM (XEM) Official Thread - 100% New Code - Easy To Use APIs on: January 26, 2018, 06:36:56 PM
700k coins will do that to you. I really believe/believed in this one and all this is rather depressing. I’m of the belief that reputation/marketing are of huge importance and this just doesn’t help.

Pah. It's a rite of passage.

And note that Lon Wong's statements took the time to emphasize the on chain security features that Coincheck pointedly failed to use.

Question is whether those features would deter any hack.

Also I didn’t realize a fork was happening for catapult...speaking of which is catapult ever happening?

Thanks

Of course those features would have reduced the probability of a hack. There is nothing called perfect security. However, what Coincheck was using was quite bad indeed.

Two of the very basic security practices that every single exchange should use for every single crypto that they handle are -
  • Multi-sig wallets: If one key is compromised, the attacker cannot steal all the funds
  • Cold Storage: Majority of the funds need to be stored on a device that has never been connected to the internet

Then, the exchange needs to create processes around these basic security requirements. For example, how many key holders exist in the multi-sig wallet? Where do they store their keys? How do they communicate if they believe they are compromised, and what steps do every one else take if this happens? Where are the cold storage keys located? Who authorizes transfer of funds from cold storage to hot wallet? How often can this happen?
You get the point.

If you're running an exchange without Multi-sig and Cold Storage, then you're at fault.

This hack isn't a problem with NEM. It is a problem with the exchange practices. The NEM foundation has offered to help, but there is only so much they can do in this situation.
448  Other / Meta / Re: Merit & new rank requirements on: January 26, 2018, 06:23:40 PM
If you send 10 merits, they are taken from your account?
For example, Full Member has 100 merit, after giving 10, he will have only 90? So to be Sr. Member he need to receive 150+10?

Merit is what you Earn, sMerit is what you give.

If you have 100 Merit, and 10 sMerit, you can give 10 Merit to others. Your 100 Merit is untouched.

Each time you receive 1 Merit from someone else, you also get credited 0.5 sMerit. This sMerit you can send to someone else.
449  Other / Meta / Re: Merit & new rank requirements on: January 26, 2018, 05:42:00 AM
I have 10 merits and I thought I could give out five. Yesterday I gave out one and today was going to give out one more but when I tried it said "You do not have enough sendable merit".  So I'm really confused about how much I'm allowed to send. Could I have sent five yesterday instead of one? I thought we could send half the total merits we held.

At any rate I think the merit system is AWESOME and should bring higher quality post to the forums. Genius idea!  Smiley



You send sMerits, not Merits. When you receive 1 Merit, you also get 0.5 sMerits. You would have some number of sMerits to start off, and you may have exhausted your supply.
450  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 26, 2018, 03:35:29 AM
wow

we are clearing TXs down to 10 satoshi/byte if I am reading the chart right
Yes, it's been going on for a while now. So if you still have Bitcoins in non-SegWit addresses, or want to consolidate some of your UTXOs into the same address (so your privacy isn't affected), now would be a good time!
451  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What is the relationship between bitcoin and blockchain? on: January 26, 2018, 03:31:40 AM
With respect to the blockchain, almost all of the technology is available before bitcoin, but no one thinks it works until bitcoin, so bitcoin is the first successful application of blockchain technology. To the extent that bitcoin is the first blockchain there's nothing wrong with it. If you want to understand the blockchain technology, Bitcoin is indeed a thing that can't go around.

The usual trope about "blockchain technology" generally gets it in reverse. The idea of "blockchain technology" was used by the media and some startups that wanted to 'sanitize' Bitcoin from its association with drugs/dark markets. Therefore, the usual phrasing became "We don't like Bitcoin, but blockchain technology behind Bitcoin is really innovative". It's funny, but I heard the exact same sentiment on the crypto asset panel in Davos earlier today too, so this line of thinking is still with us, unfortunately.

What Bitcoin solved is the Byzantine General's Problem (Wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantine_fault_tolerance), which, in a nutshell, is a way for untrusting parties to come to a consensus on a shared piece of information. Bitcoin uses the solution to create a global and distributed ledger. This ledger 's state is agreed upon by all participants.

It is remarkable if you think about it - you may be in China, Japan, Russia, Australia, Sweden, Luxembourg, Brazil, etc. and all the people agree to the current state of the ledger. These parties have never even met each other. They may be honest or dishonest. They may be humans or machines. But they all agree to the state of Bitcoin's current ledger. That's a powerful idea.

The blockchain is just a data structure with some desirable properties, that Bitcoin employs. This is definitely clever, but by no means "the innovation behind Bitcoin". It might as well be a block-tree or something else. The data structure is cool but not the core fundamental feature of Bitcoin. Yes, Bitcoin was the first system that made use of the blockchain, but there were similar ideas (hashed linked-list type structures) that pre-date Bitcoin. Don't let "blockchain technology" fool you into not really appreciating what Bitcoin is and what problems it solved.
452  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Why are transactions much faster now? on: January 26, 2018, 03:08:56 AM
Lucky for you guys because I didn't experience this yesterday when I sent some of bitcoin into my other wallet to cash them out but until now the transaction has not yet been confirmed, but I set at a low priority with a low transaction fee amount it sucks maybe because of the wallet I have used.
What's the transaction ID? What wallet did you use to send the transaction? If you post these details, perhaps the community can help.
453  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: public companies adding blockchain to their names on: January 26, 2018, 01:59:03 AM
"SEC warns against public companies adding blockchain to their name". If companies add blockchain to their names, will it actually influence the development of their business?
Very similar to the situation during the tech bubble in '99-'00 when companies would add a dot com to their name and their stock would double. It goes without saying this isn't healthy for the market and the regulators would definitely keep an eye out on such activity. Adding blockchain to their names is a joke - they don't actually do anything different.
454  Other / Meta / Re: Merit & new rank requirements on: January 26, 2018, 01:56:12 AM
Request:

I'd like to see a link to download raw data regarding the latest merit activity.
Basically this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;stats=recent but as txt, json, csv or similar format including name/id of sender, name/id of receiver and post ID.

When the DT was provided as text some interesting processing was possible.
With merit raw data we could easily write scripts to find suspicious activity, to show it graphically, advanced stats, among other things.

I second this request. It would be good for the moderators to try and visualize on a graph the accounts that are abusing the system or worse, trying to sell their Merit scores. It would be good for researchers to see the trends and propose improvements as well. I would be very interested in this data set personally, and provide my findings to the community as well.
455  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM (XEM) Official Thread - 100% New Code - Easy To Use APIs on: January 26, 2018, 01:17:44 AM
If you think this is the case, you have no understanding of how Wall Street sell side research works. Any guess how they make money? Who is paying them for the research? What's the firm's history in ratings (hint: very ugly)?

These ratings have absolutely nothing to do with either technology or as investment potential. They have everything to do with the firm's, and their clients' current crypto holdings.

The fact is that people do pay for their research so even though you and I don't care, others do in fact value their ratings. This is meaningful as it gives credence to crypto assets for that audience regardless of what we think.


This is again not true. The "people" you're talking about aren't investors. No one with money who knows what they are doing ever pay any attention to these ratings. The worst thing you can do is to make your investment decisions based on these types of sell-side research. That's called dumb money on the street.
456  Other / Meta / Re: Merit & new rank requirements on: January 26, 2018, 12:46:46 AM
I would be in favour of a system in which some merit is generated to give for all users. That is, a newby may get 1 merit every month to give away, a junior 2 merit, etc...

Leaving Junior Members without signature has been a bad idea, I am sure many of them were in the middle of a signature campaign and now they will loose all their effort. Even a "grace period" of 1 month on this regard would have been a life saver for many.

I think the idea is that the ability to give merit is a privilege, not a right. You earn the ability to give Merit based on the Merit that you've earned from your efforts in helping the community.
457  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: What are the fees on the Lightning network? on: January 26, 2018, 12:27:57 AM

There are no banks (yet).  There may never be banks.

Regardless the process works the same, so lets substitute Charlie in for the user that you keep calling "Bank".  It will make it clearer. Sicne you insist on using $ amounts instead of BTC amounts, we'll also assume that the exchange rate between $ and BTC doesn't change at all during that time.

Bob opens a channel (Lets call it channel B-C) with Charlie.
Bob funds the channel with $100 worth of bitcoins, and Charlie funds the channel with $100 worth of bitcoins.

Alice opens a channel with Charlie (Lets call it channel A-C) with Charlie.
Alice funds the channel with $200 worth of bitcoins, and Charlie funds the channel with $0 worth of bitcoins.

Alice establishes a route through Charlie to Bob and sends $100 worth of bitcoins

After that:
The A-C channel state has $100 worth of bitcoins that Charlie can send through the channel to Alice and $0 worth of bitcoins that Alice can send to Charlie.
The B-C channel state has $200 worth of bitcoins that Bob can send through the channel to Charlie and $0 worth of bitcoins that Charlie can send to Bob.


Great explanation btw, but the math seems off. In your example, won't the A-C channel have $100 worth of Bitcoins that Alice can still send to Charlie, since Alice started with $200 worth of Bitcoins?
458  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bancor | Protocol for Smart-tokens, solving the liquidity problem on: January 26, 2018, 12:14:40 AM
2,500 BNT reward for anyone who can transfer HACKME tokens to their own wallet in the Bancor demo environment!

Bancor is giving away 2,500 BNT to anyone who manages to transfer HACKME tokens to their own wallet in the Bancor demo environment! Are you up for the challenge? Start hacking! - https://app.demo.bancor.network/discover?utm_source=social&utm_medium=hackme
Bancor doesn't have a good reputation of treating security researchers with respect. For example, before the ICO, they diluted their bug bounties just before the promised date, so they could pay out less.
459  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM (XEM) Official Thread - 100% New Code - Easy To Use APIs on: January 26, 2018, 12:10:27 AM

B Grade - ETH and EOS.
B- Grade - ADA, NEO and Steem.
C+ Grade - ARK, BTC, BTS, GBYTE, DASH, DCR, IOC, LTC and NEM.
I would presume that on their next rating schedule some of the C+ could potentially get a B-


C Grade - AEON, ASCH , BLK, BLOCK, BURST, BCN, XCP, DOGE, ETC, KMD, LSK, MNR, NAV, NBL, NXS, NXT, PPC, PIVX, QTUM, XRB and XRP.
C- Grade - BCH, CLOAK, DGB, XDN, ETN, FTC, NMC, RDD, SKY, UBQ, VIA, XWC and ZEN.
D+ Grade - AUR, BTG, EMC2, GAME, NLG, MEC, ETP and PURA.
D Grade - EXP, GUP, NVC, POT, QUARK, RISE and SALUS.

These ratings are meaningless, they are coming from dinosaurs who wish we could go back to the roaring 1950s  Cheesy Roll Eyes

They are not meaningless at all. By giving these ratings, they are making crypto assets more legit and mainstream. These ratings are not based on the merits of the technology but their potentials as investments and they NEVER give out A's. A rating of C is not bad like in school grades and actually indicates to hold that investment.

If you think this is the case, you have no understanding of how Wall Street sell side research works. Any guess how they make money? Who is paying them for the research? What's the firm's history in ratings (hint: very ugly)?

These ratings have absolutely nothing to do with either technology or as investment potential. They have everything to do with the firm's, and their clients' current crypto holdings.
460  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Digital Assets Management Platform on: January 26, 2018, 12:08:09 AM

Great news, more exchanges is always a good thing.

How about Binance next? Is it possible to start some kind of form of community votes? Surely Iconomi as a well developed project deserves to be on a bigger exchange?

Mate, Iconomi is already traded on Binance. It trades the ICN/BTC pair. Here's the direct link: https://www.binance.com/trade.html?symbol=ICN_BTC
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