@everyone I'm getting bombarded with translation requests today, really doesn't look legitimate and therefore I've locked all of my topics for now to ensure all translations are good quality. I'll set up a topic like discussed above in Meta or in Reputation, where everyone can give his 2 cents about a translation and only in case several DT members from each local board in question will approve it, I'll give out a reward and add these approved translations to my list. Low quality will be rejected. Massive and / or repeated abuse due to low quality translations might lead to a trust entry. I'll link my topic here, when I'm ready but could take a while, probably early next week.  You should make a thread. I will make one, I've already stated it here: I'll link my topic here, when I'm ready but could take a while, probably early next week. Having a bit patience won't hurt! Where not only your post everyone who have the posts which deserves translations and much have information which help others can be applied for translation.
Or make a code where a member can apply with a post link (not only your posts) and with his/her rank and the language in which he/she will translate.
I'm not intending to have all of my topics translated. Everyone should read them and if they deem, it's a nice article for a translation, they can request it in each topic. I might add further rules, if there's abuse happening or might reject translations of course, after local board members confirm here that it's a low-quality translation. We need high-quality translations, so by providing low-quality translations, no one is doing anyone a favor. Because like in fillippone's topic, applicants for translations should know some basics like avoiding pyramid quotes, reading the topic before applying and then, they would have seen that the topic was already translated etc. One more thing I will recommend only accept Full Member or above ranks this will also reduce the fraudulent activities and rush of applications.
For now, we will just check each translation if it's a fraudulent one and if so, it'll get rejected and possibly a DT tag as well. Easy job to get rid of abusers.
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I'm getting bombarded with translation requests today, really doesn't look legitimate and therefore I've locked all of my topics for now to ensure all translations are good quality.
I tend to believe it is only an inexperienced user, rather than a deliberate attack but of course this particular user made every possible effort trying to be annoying. Most likely yes, most translations are legitimate ones and I believe a good translation also deserves a reward, so we are going to check each translation in detail, at least for new translators. We might skip to check proven translators or only check translations on a case to case basis and local board members can also report fraudulent translations in that topic. Doing so will probably reduce fraudulent translations by 95%, which should be fine already. You could request checks for your translation in my new topic as well.
Same here. I answered one of those requests here , but I didn’t come to the same drastic conclusion. I tend to believe it is only an inexperienced user, rather than a deliberate attack but of course this particular user made every possible effort trying to be annoying. These users trying to abuse it. Since you guys do not understand their native language, they are using this as a chance to trick you guys and lure some merits. The topics should not be translated just for merits but the translator should understand what they are writing and the importance of the topic. Good to see you guys understand that something is not right. So far, at least for my recent translations, there wasn't any abuse happening as I've checked them by local board members via request. And all of the recent translations haven't received any reward or in case it needs an improvement, the translators are willing to improve their translations. Outright fraudulent translations would have been spotted + rejected. How it will be if you guys set a rule like invites only? All of you guys know some members who have translated your topics and you can invite them to translate if you create new content. I have seen this invite only system in a signature campaign.  I believe the problem are rewards here. Fraudulent translations won't get any reward but instead offering the risk to catch a (negative) tag. And the translation would be up for translation again. That should be incentive enough to prevent abuse. I would like to give everyone an opportunity to do a translation and simply checking each translation by local board members seems to be the easiest way to confirm it. |
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Now have posted so I apologize if you will say I will delete the posts but I think these shouldn't be deleted.
No need to delete your translations, we'll review them and if it's a legitimate translation, you'll get a reward and I'll add your translations to my OP. But for any possible next translation, no matter if one of my topics or from someone else, you know it's important to request an official permission first for your translation in each original topic. |
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In case you're wondering why there isn't a Las Vegas GP Challenge, we're still waiting for the odds provider to release odds  Verstappen currently 1.29 on the inaugural Las Vegas track. From our last rounds, it seems like odds are only coming up the week when the race is happening. Las Vegas Grand Prix is still almost 2 weeks to go, so odds will come up next Monday, most likely.
Las Vegas will be an interesting race so far and while it's only 2 races to go, where Max is having his title already, at least Perez will be forced to push in case he wants to have a decent shot for a seat next year. It's know that RedBull will replace him, should Perez continue to struggle. I can imagine, he'll do very well here. It's a street race, where Perez has done well, overally and his career is at stake, so he needs to show a good race. Probably, Leclerc might be forced to take an engine penalty, if his engine is really damaged from Brazil's race, where he had a DNF on his formation lap. But no confirmation yet. |
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If you still would like to give it a try, I can reserve a translation for your local board. Smiley
Reserve it for me, I will give it a trial, but do me a favour if their is anything I need in the process l will let you know for more guide. You can also do it together with Hatchy, if you want. Maybe there are multiple ideas, how to improve posting quality for your local board or you can simply co-sponsor it, like GazetaBitcoin did for my German topic. Or Hatch could do a proofreading as well. In case of any question, feel free to ask here. |
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I'm not from Nigeria but of course, my answer is: HODL  I might also link a famous topic here, translated by Chilwell: Trade vs. HODL - avoid trapsIt's a great explanation, why trading is so dangerous and we are well advised to stick to HODL.
 Photo collect Google- You've got a wrong version of that picture because in reality, trading is decreasing our amount of money.  Trading might be 50 / 50 chance because short-term, price can go up or it can go down (nobody can predict it), but due to trading fees, from every trade a small amount is deducted. So overally, we will lose, in addition to the risk. Of course, sometimes we will make a profit but some times we will also make a loss: statistically, our profit is 50 / 50 and trading fees are causing a loss on top, making it overally a loss.  While in HODL, we are investing long-term, where we are taking advantage from Bitcoin's fundamentals, like scarcity (21M coins) and Bitcoin serving as a store of value. It's explained in detail here: Trade vs. HODL - avoid traps |
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And you should request a translation and wait for an official permission to translate it before finally translating it. The community will check your translation later, see my announcement: I didn't see this post. Well, I have translated you two topics and already posted. And I think I have helped my community members. Because I just used simple language. It's common sense to request a translation first and wait for approval to avoid any confusions. Imagine, everyone starts translating the same topic at once, same language. Someone finishes his translation first and for all the other people translating meanwhile your language, it's a wasted time because all of their translations are useless now because it's already translated. And they can't know who's translating already because no request was submitted. By requesting + reserving a translation, we will avoid such mistakes. At least, now you know.
Now I have posted so you may verify and can approve.
I am sure it will be verified by my community members. But if they will not verify so you can ignore. Because I didn't know about your recent post which you have mentioned.
Bitcointalk's community members will need to approve it because I'm not a native speaker of your language. We have many complaints already about fraudulent translations and we will check every translation in detail for it's legitimacy. |
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So, if you could do that, it would be very nice. If you don't have time, I can do it somewhen later. When I saw the pictures were outdated, I started downloading them and gathering all of them, and I was about to write it. Now I see you are already aware and you wanted to fix it. Since I already downloaded and uploaded them to talkimg, I am posting them here so you can fix the OP in a few minutes. +1 Your effort is very much appreciated, dear Learn Bitcoin. These Imgur problems have really caused big damage to the forum. I've added all these pictures accordingly to my OP and luckily, it's a readable topic again. |
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I have translated your topic in my local language and posted in my local board thread. You can check it here. You should update translation part of your post.
And you should request a translation and wait for an official permission to translate it before finally translating it. The community will check your translation later, see my announcement: @everyone I'm getting bombarded with translation requests today, really doesn't look legitimate and therefore I've locked all of my topics for now to ensure all translations are good quality. I'll set up a topic like discussed above in Meta or in Reputation, where everyone can give his 2 cents about a translation and only in case several DT members from each local board in question will approve it, I'll give out a reward and add these approved translations to my list. Low quality will be rejected. Massive and / or repeated abuse due to low quality translations might lead to a trust entry. I'll link my topic here, when I'm ready but could take a while, probably early next week.
In addition, I've updated my code in the OP as what's been still there until now was still for the old version. It's updated now. Can you pinpoint the changes, please? Thus I make sure I also add them to the Romanian translation. I've just changed the code part: | Name (link) | Bech32 / Bech32m (P2TR) supported? | SegWit (P2SH) identifiable?** | Usefulness (subjective rating)  *** | Works without JS? | Rated by | | ________________________ | ________________________________ | _________________________ | _________________________________ | ____________________ | ________________ | | xxx | Yes / No (xx/2022) / Yes / No (xx/2022) | Yes (09/2019) | x / 10 Points | Yes/No | Your name |
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If it's not very beneficially for our Bitcointalk community in general, we are better to keep it off of our list? [...] But of course, if someone wants to list it and provides a good argument, we can consider to list it. I highly doubt that anyone would suggest to list a website which promotes doxxing Oo Sure? Probably, we have some rats in the forum. |
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With your permission I will like to translate this topic to my local board naija "pidgin language". Thank you.
Hello Sorry, I've missed your post yesterday... Of course, you can try to bring our topic to your local board but as already explained by GazetaBitcoin, it's not a normal translation. You need to customize it for your local board: - Evaluate if the points mentioned in other local board translations also apply for your local board or if there might be changes needed (you can use Google translate to get a meaning of our Romanian or German local board version) - Bring up unique points for your local board, where you believe, an improvement needs to be made. - Link other topics in your translation, where advice to improve posting quality is given. - ... Here are also some more advices: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5409763.msg62762338#msg62762338https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5409763.msg62762854#msg62762854https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5409763.msg62721105#msg62721105https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5409763.msg62717804#msg62717804If you still would like to give it a try, I can reserve a translation for your local board.
I would like to reserve my local language and post a translation in my local board #Proof of JOIN Language:pidgin Bitcointalk Account: HatchyIf Chilwell doesn't want to do it, I can come back to you. But for now, like GazetaBitcoin pointed out already, Chilwell is first in line.
and I wonder how he intends on finishing all these translations by himself. There isn't supposed to be any competition when it comes to translation.
We will find a solution and check if it's a quality translation, of course. In addition, there are hundreds of interesting topics here on Bitcointalk, where you could provide a translation to bring helpful content to your local board.
@1miau: I'd suggest to update the application code sequence, thus it will be even more clear for applicants that this translation is not a regular one. At th moment, the application looks like this: Perhaps we could add something like this: I would like to reserve my local language and post a translation in my [name local board here].
I noticed the following issues inside this local board, which can be improved by translating this topic: issue 1, issue 2, issue 3 etc.
I have the following resources which I'll include in the translation and which address the problems from my local board: resource 1, resource 2, resource 3 etc.
(N.b. -- last sentence can look also like this: I did not find any existent topics which address the issues from my local board, but I will write a topic addressing these problems -- in this case the new topic should be ready before the translation is done.)
#Proof of JOIN
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Bitcointalk Account: What do you think? It's a great idea. I've added some more lines, see OP. |
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If there's abuse ongoing and you have proof, feel free to open a topic in Meta / Reputation about it and present your proof. I'll review your reports and if other members from your local board agree to your report, I might issue a translation ban for certain members or even leave a trust feedback.
I did gave him a warning, though. And the next day, he deleted his translation. May I ask who did this? You can also send me a PM, if you don't want to reply here.
If there's abuse ongoing and you have proof, feel free to open a topic in Meta / Reputation about it and present your proof. I'll review your reports and if other members from your local board agree to your report, I might issue a translation ban for certain members or even leave a trust feedback. This is the only problem. we do not have proof to connect the alt account but it's obvious who owns which account. Yes, it's difficult to prove. But we can watch these account and when they try to enroll in a campaign, we can try to connect their wallets due to Blockchain analysis and give out appropriate trust, if there's abuse ongoing like joining the same campaign with multiple accounts. 
@everyone I'm getting bombarded with translation requests today, really doesn't look legitimate and therefore I've locked all of my topics for now to ensure all translations are good quality. I'll set up a topic like discussed above in Meta or in Reputation, where everyone can give his 2 cents about a translation and only in case several DT members from each local board in question will approve it, I'll give out a reward and add these approved translations to my list. Low quality will be rejected. Massive and / or repeated abuse due to low quality translations might lead to a trust entry. I'll link my topic here, when I'm ready but could take a while, probably early next week. |
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Hello, @1Miau this topic is educative that everybody will love to be aware of, I’m seeking for your permission to translate it to local board Nigeria (pidgin)
This topic is not helpful to get translated for your fellow local board members because it's a Meta-related suggestion to improve forum functions (this suggestion won't get implemented anyway, as we know by now due to literally nothig happening even for the new forum layout, where millions of USD were spent on...). In addition, this topic is more than 5 YEARS old... Or how should this topic be helpful for your local board? Have you actually read it?  There are hundreds (probably thousands) of more helpful topics to get translated, like this one: [TIPS] to avoid pyramid quotes (for Newbies)In the linked topic, at least you could learn, why it's important to avoid pyramid quotes. |
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Hello, @1miau I will like you to permit me to translate this topic to my local board Nigeria (pidgin) This topic is not helpful to get translated for your fellow local board members because it's a Meta-related suggestion to improve forum functions. In addition, this topic is more than 5 YEARS old... Or how should this topic be helpful for your local board? Have you actually read it? There are hundreds (probably thousands) of more helpful topics to get translated, like this one: [TIPS] to avoid pyramid quotes (for Newbies) |
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Hey Good job, I've added your translation to my list now: |
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a. Newcastle
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For the pictures l will try and get the pictures, let me handle it I will take it as a challenge for myself to research on it. I am ready to learn so let me fix the pictures. I want to know if I can be able to do it myself.
Wow, that would be nice. It's quite easy but a bit time consuming: - quote my OP to get all Imgur links - enter all Imgur links as URL - Imgur will show you these pictures, you need to save them separately - uploade all the pictures on TalkImg - replace all previous link - done For each picture. So, if you could do that, it would be very nice. If you don't have time, I can do it somewhen later. |
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Coins gehören nicht auf zentralisierte Börsen, die Coins gehören offline aufbewahrt.
Münzen ruhen sich zu Hause aus, gehen aber alternativ auf die CEX, um zu arbeiten. Bei der Arbeit passieren Fehler, das Risiko gehen manche ein mit Blick auf einen guten Geschäftsgang bzw. einem akzeptablen Lohn. Das ist ein interessanter Vergleich, der sogar in der Realität einigermaßen gut passt. Dabei würde ich allerdings noch unterscheiden: - Wie ist die Arbeitssicherheit auf dieser "Arbeitsstelle" für die Münzen? Müssen sie durch fahrlässige Arbeitssicherheit fürchten, dass dort verletz werden oder sogar umkommen? In vielen Ländern ist die Arbeitssicherheit nach wie vor ein großen Problem, um Kosten zu sparen. Das gilt auch für die Kryptobörsen.
- Während selbst auf einer (gefährlichen) Arbeitsstelle immer zählbarer Lohn bei herumkommt, wenn bei manchen auch nur sehr wenig, ist der Gewinn beim Handel auf Kryptobörsen nicht sicher. Selbst Staking basiert darauf, dass die Umlaufmenge immer weiter verwässert wird - der Wert pro Münze sind und die Staker machen nur auf Kosten der Leute Gewinn, die ihre Münzen nicht staken. Wert muss bekanntlich immer irgendwo geschaffen werden.
 Siehe Wikipedia "Arbeitssicherheit". / Arbeiten bei Mt.Gox und FTX, Originalfarben
Aber im Grunde ist der Vergleich schon sinnvoll. |
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Even a month ago, everything was fine. Some users saw that translation can be weaponized to earn merits to rank up easily. That's why they started translating with Google Translator. I assume they thought you wouldn't notice, as you did not have any idea about our language. The fact that they were abusing the system really disturbed some of us. I issued several warnings and reports. Some deleted their AI translation, some didn't.
If there's abuse ongoing and you have proof, feel free to open a topic in Meta / Reputation about it and present your proof. I'll review your reports and if other members from your local board agree to your report, I might issue a translation ban for certain members or even leave a trust feedback. Just like the AOBT thread, you can make another thread dedicated to those who checks the quality of a translation. To verify the authenticity of their translation. For every language, 3–4 reputed users should be sufficient, in case some are busy. You know? Like some sort of a gang. Alright, I'll try to create a topic to weed out bad translations, where everyone can contribute his 2 cents. I've just received a bunch of new requests, so I'll list all of them in my new topic. I would start next week to create that topic and will link it here as well, of course. Everyone would be invited as well to report bad translations from his local board.
I already suspect this and even criticize it on our local board. This guy will reveal their true color one day for sure. We already have some eagle eyes in the forum so what they are doing will be caught eventually one by one. I also saw how these accounts were circulating merit from one account to another. So if somehow one of them got a merit from the global board these people would earn them eight merits by circulating them through all of these eight accounts.
The problem is, that we don't want to ruin others' reputations. If it's a bad translation and several members from your local board agree, that it's a bad translation, the translator is to blame because he didn't provide a quality translation. So, no worry to "ruin" someone's reputation, all they need is to provide a quality translation. I'm sure we'll find a good solution, where abusers are caught and quality translators get rewarded. |
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Nice to see your translation is already done. I've added it in my list now, as you can see: +1 for your effort to translate and publish my topic on your local board. |
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With your permission I will like to translate this topic to my local board naija "pidgin language". Thank you. In general, my guide is a bit outdated because Electrum has introduced new features but my advice is still somehow useful, so a translation of your language would make sense. I've also noted it, so you are first in line but I still need to get new pictures for my OP because Imgur doesn't work any longer. I'll try to update all pictures next weekend and maybe you can post a reminder here for an official request next weekend if possible? But your request is noted for now. |
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With your permission I will like to translate this topic to my local board naija "pidgin language". Thank you.
Of course, it's a bit technical but you can try to translate it to your local board. I've approved your request and it's now officially reserved: | Language | translated by | Title | | ___________________________ | _____________________ | _______________________________________________________________________ | | Nigeria (Naija) | Chilwell (reserved) | reserved |
As always, you can link your translation here, when it's done, but no hurry. |
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